[000:00:00;00] yes, we don’t quite have a project, as i understand it - anyway, this robot will do what we came up with here, here, well, sitting here in a cozy chair, in a cozy chair, and based on our conclusions, which we made here, and not on place. let me remind you that schrödinger’s cat is with you on the podcast, and i am its host, grigory tarasevich, together with my co-host cat bare, well, we have a wonderful guest , hero of russia, cosmonaut sergei kuch sverchkov. how do you see yourself in the future? here you will continue to perform feats and have adventures. i believe that adventures, they exist in the lives of each of us to one degree or another. the most important thing is to approach them responsibly. that is, cosmonauts, scientists who go on expeditions, polar explorers are not the people who can be called adventurers. we always think through all the steps, we try

to think through them. there is a degree of uncertainty, there is always a plan b, and if plan b does not work, there must be a plan c, well, at least a plan on how to get back home, all people who can be called travelers and adventure lovers have this. any adventure is the search for meteorites is excitement, you will find it, you won’t find it, you will be lucky with the weather, you will be unlucky with the weather, but even if you are not lucky, we are still ready for plan b. or maybe an adventure without -35, cosmic... cold, meteorites, a man sits in a chair and thinks, his thought can become an adventure, i think, yes, if you do analytical work you come across an idea, what if, that is ask a question for which there is no obvious answer and which suggests several possible solutions hypothetical, that is, a puzzle, a puzzle is a mental adventure, it's

excitement, uh-huh, uh-huh. scientists are often adventurous people who come across some solution through hard work in mental work and try to test these solutions, right hypothesis, wrong hypothesis, this is also an adventure, because when you test something, you may come across something... something unpredictable, but in general all these adventures, they are needed more by someone, the hero himself, who swims, flies and so on, i think, i think this is mutual. mutually, why because there are people who love adventure, and there are people who don’t really like adventure, but they need to get some data, these people are gathering, some astronauts or workers of polar stations, antarctic, they say, we are ready to go for 39 lands, they are told, you shouldn’t just go, you should also bring benefit, but in fact

they all want it, and the cosmonauts, the explorers, themselves want to bring benefit, so it’s a symbiosis, man, again, going back to the beginning, man who doesn't like adventure, he will never go there, of course everyone loves to read about adventures, even those who are afraid to go somewhere, why, because he himself seems to turn into a hero, and why are so few people who read zhelvern and other adventure authors, so few end up in a squad of astronauts or... what stops people? fear, lack of money? it could be fear , trite, it could be self-doubt, well, maybe a person definitely won’t succeed and won’t even try, by the way, this is the secret of the failure of so many. it could be and the health of those who try, they cannot for some formal reasons, education, health, a person wants to try, but he does not have the necessary qualities in order to formally go into space or to an

antarctic station. there could probably be everyday reasons, but financial reasons in general are possible on adventures, well, let alone getting rich, at least supporting a family? i know that i am absolutely sure, based on my communication with polar explorers and cosmonauts, that the people who go on these expeditions in space, to the antarctic, these are people who definitely don’t go there for money , well, they can’t support their family, the goal is cosmonauts , yes, members of the antarctic expedition, i think so too, yes, that’s... but the risks that, uh, are in these expeditions, they, of course, probably do not cover the finances with which they are provided, well, you had a delicious flight , you went to antarctica, where next, after all, what are your immediate plans while preparing for the next flight into space, that’s all -yet, space flight is a definite

responsibility and it cannot be said that you can thoughtlessly rush into some... expeditions , because this is a risky thing, the most important priority is still preparation for a flight into space, and then, well, once again you fly to the iss, in the distant future , i don’t know, you’re going to fly or to the moon, god forbid, and what else, what kind of dreams do you have, if you really let go of dreams, like uh, we love, and it’s actually very right to dream, otherwise of course, this depths, and the depth of the oceans, because they have been little explored, is also underground space, these are the poles, it is quite possible that there are some places that are less, much less extreme, but much more interesting, for example, i participated in one expedition in the eastern sayan mountains several years ago, and it was an expedition to find new

caves of karst cavities, and this is an extraordinary feeling when you discover a new completeness, a new cave, you go there, find traces of the life of some cave animals, and you understand that you are the first person to appear here, who saw with your own eyes, before you no one... knew about this, no one saw this, it’s an amazing feeling, even if it’s a small discovery, well, we ’re unfortunately coming to the end, so i want some i don’t know, life advice for those who are watching us , how to become a participant in an adventure, while bringing benefits, and a huge number of different expeditions that require participants, in fact, i ended up on an antarctic expedition, well, relatively by accident, and i had mountaineering experience, that is, what i had necessary, that is, there is some background needed have some kind of background, yes you need to have some kind of background absolutely , either a scientific background or some kind of tourist background

and a background in extreme activities, because an expedition is always an uncomfortable place, an unsafe place, i walked through mountains, through forests, through deserts , i want, i want to bring something new to the world. you can start with the simplest, just an ordinary participant, and i actually participated as an ordinary participant, despite the fact that i have an astronaut background, but when you go on an expedition, you were in expeditions on uninhabited islands, i was there as an ordinary field worker collecting samples, but this required several skills, this is a mountaineering skill, this is the skill of working with scientific equipment, that is, you need to be able to take aseptically... samples, all these knowledge accumulated in the fact that i was simply offered to go on an expedition, but also, probably, everyone has some kind of background that can be useful on certain expeditions, but still, from the point of view

of the family, well, most people have wife, you have two children, you say, no, i won’t go with you, here’s to sochi, i’ll go to the distant mountains to look for untouched islands, i don’t know what, how to... combine it, well, come to an agreement, if you don’t go, everything will be lost , no, i’m talking about the fact that it’s always, well, not easy, because that’s what a family is, that you have to take care of it and be with it, but nevertheless, people who go on expeditions can live without this activity both the spouse and children cannot, they understand perfectly well that this person cannot sit still, well, like me, at first it was not easy, but then, i just realized that i couldn’t be let go, thank you very much, unfortunately, we have to finish, there was a podcast with you , schrodinger’s cat, and i am its host, the chief editor of the popular science magazine schrodinger’s cat, grigory tarasevich and my co-host, very

smart, calm cat bari, thank you, thank you, sergey, thank you. hello, i’m larisa guzeeva, this is a podcast letter, my guest today is the honored artist, director, artistic director of the practice theater, maria brusnikina. hello maria, i’m so happy that you came, and we also have this theme, andrey vasilievich mikhkov. what year did you enroll and graduate? here i am over the years. bad, but it was a long time ago, the film irony of fate had just come out, he was a super popular person, and some kind of god for us, for everyone, here you enroll in a course, it was a course by oleg nikolaevich efremov, andrei

vasilyevich mikhkov was a teacher and he too i rarely recruited, but he was a teacher, not a leader, no, the next course was where natasha negoda was, he was the leader there, and we entered, he worked, he, pokrovskaya, worked as teachers, recruited the main one. efremov, but we had two groups, we were clearly divided, one group was mikhkovskaya, the other pokrovskaya, i ended up in the group of andrei vasilyevich mikhkov, i was incredibly happy about it, of course, because he is a teacher. from god, i believe that this is one of my main lucks, that i met this man as a teacher, there are just some people who shaped you, of course, andrey vasilyevich, here is one of them, but the truth that when you came to visit him, he insisted that the students they called him andrey naty, well, we were already in our fourth year, we already had such, already quite friendly relations, and yes, of course, he insisted, especially with the guys, with dim brusnik and rom kozyk.

he was still a completely young man, now that i understand, at that time he seemed, oh, generally soft, but in fact, he was even almost 40 -something, yes, that is, asya voznesenskaya, some kind of completely girl, she came to us in her second year, with some kind of unimaginable haircut, as i remember now, she came in like this in some kind of unimaginable skirt, well, just girl, yes, but of course, for us they were teachers, but he, yes, he just consciously wanted that yes, guys, i call it, there was already such contact, some kind of human close, they were friends, but not me, i always, very much him i somehow appreciated it, it’s understandable, it’s clear that all the girls were in love with myagkovo, it’s understandable, despite the fact that i was already married, there i was 18 years old and managed to get married, this is completely different, to a classmate, behind kusnikin, may he rest in heaven, but this is some other kind of love, this is falling in love with a person endless, because there is a sense of humor, well , you know, andrey vasivich

will perfectly share my impressions. yes, the sense of humor is off the charts, wisdom, intelligence, and some kind of amazing amazing person, he was very modest, you know, it’s somehow unnaturally modest for an artist to have such popularity, that’s when i filmed with him, but he’s my mother’s age , and i couldn’t even imagine that an actor of such popularity, such magnitude, tried to be invisible to everyone, so i never saw him i saw that he was there telling jokes or he, yes, well, that’s how they gathered , georgy zheburkov was filming with us, who was always telling jokes, some stories, everyone gathered around him, andrei vasilyevich was always somehow separate, and when his wife arrived, the two of them went somewhere, and it was so organic, it wasn’t so that it didn’t irritate, didn’t raise any questions, well, you just looked, ska yes, you’re right, it’s incredibly not just modest, but very

closed person, absolute introvert, very a strange position in this in this profession, indeed, yes, there are, as a rule, some other people, a different way of existence , no, it is closed indefinitely, but it opened up, probably, with us, with the students, these ours opened up all sorts of night gatherings there, at their home, unlike you students, andrei vasilyevich, sasiy never invited journalists to the house, and that’s why we are lucky. yes, but that was precisely the period when we were students, then, then less often, then it was quite difficult, but later it was quite difficult to ask to visit, they completely closed themselves off, as if they closed the house, but how do you explain this to yourself, why they have such a closed lifestyle, there was some kind of self-sufficiency in them, just the two of them, yes, there was some kind of rejection, perhaps, of what was happening around, yes, that is, andrei vasilyevich always, no, then, when perestroika began, later, age, already when, and after the departure of oleg

nikolaevich efremov, yes, already some kind of life was so closed, but what about they were at home, what kind of life they had, this too, we were here there as students, we ended up in this apartment on kutuzovsky prospekt, also very fashionable, stylish, so i remember that the walls were white, few people did that then, yes, everything is hung with paintings by andrei vasilyovich, he is also an amazing artist, simply amazing, very he’s also strange, despite the fact that here, too, we are talking about this modesty , such closeness... intelligence, intelligence, and the pictures are crazy, simply crazy, his vision of the world is so, so colorful, distorted, somehow peculiar perception, that's all concerns portraits, he has a lot of portraits, there is oleg nikolaevich efremova, and he is also a cartoonist, yes, yes, that’s all, very much like saying, well, not unrealistic art, that’s for sure, everything is covered with his paintings, very stylish, very fashionable house, very comfortable, anastasilenna... there was an amazing hostess and i remember , it’s amazing, she loved it, when we

came, we were received at the highest level, that is, wonderful drinks, wonderful food from the market, and i remember, you remember, some incredible little things, and i i remember how i was assigned, and i’m not very economical, frankly , and i was instructed to chop parsley somewhere, and i mean, unlike you, larisa, i’m not very economical, i chop this parsley, it’s so suitable, he says, why are you doing this, i say, how and why chop the stems, tear off these little things and chop them , i remembered that the stems of parsley need to be removed, although i myself had no idea, that is, she is of the highest class, us always fed, treated all these nights to endless conversations, they were still very educated people. andrei vasilyevich read a lot and some all the time you know a stream of names and you notice, remember what you need to read, what you definitely need to know, what you need to navigate, that is, these were the teachers, well, not only in

profession, but although in the profession, for me, of course, andrei vasilyevich - that’s how to say, he shaped me, yes, he helped me, because i was very afraid of oleg nikolaevich efremova in general... with him and he, because he was for us some kind of authority, just crazy, with him they could exist normally, here are the guys who were older, there was kozabur again , we had such a team, yes, yes, we were all classmates, friends, oh, there were all girls, we were little after school, and of course we were afraid of him, well we had a student who was not afraid of anything, but she seemed to come later, she was also yours, also ours, yes, but she seemed to come to us later after the academician, and there was incredible fear, with megkov, since i was still in his group, i understood that he treated me very well, i felt it, and of course he he, he was incredible with me, i hated classes there, but i could have done these things , and something i didn’t want, didn’t work out, and i said everything, i won’t, left, he kicked me out of classes, i cried , that means she was kicked out, it was a very funny incident when my

classmate and i finally came up with, well, what is tut, it means you came in, something happened, and you changes, changes, i say: nikolaevka wonderful actress of the theater on malaya brony, now sasha says, let’s do it, here we go with you into the audience, i hit you in the face, you cry, and we leave, here’s the event , and we entered, i kicked her in the face, she’s sobbing, and mikhkov says this, well, now let’s do the opposite, and i’m very good i remembered, that is, he raised us like that, so he helped me a lot, because in my second year he took an acting job with me, it was tsvetaeva’s blizzard and they gave me the role of an old woman, it says tsvitaeva’s old woman is full of life. century, i cried a lot, why they gave me an old woman, i was terribly worried that the girl had all the heroics, and i’m an old woman, so he’s with me in this poems, as tsvetaeva understands, he was very tormented with me, because i understood everything inside, but i couldn’t reach that, that volume, that breadth that he needed, and i

remember how he was already jumping in front of me showed me everything, just with his hands, everything as it should be, at some point, apparently, he told me, well, here’s what else i have to do for you... to play it, and for some reason i felt so ashamed, i took it and i played, i had an a+ in skill, but it was myagkov, he turned some kind of lever in me that i began to open up, to open up or something, so he was very patient, delicate, but i had no head, in general i had zero brains, literally at all , when we were filming with him, and i understood that he was old, well, my mother’s age, and how well, he wasn’t brilliant, he didn’t look after him. of course, everyone always looks at young artists, andrei vasilyevich, no , i wasn’t afraid of him, but i always got ready in front of him, so he somehow made me strict with his presence, so he was strict,

and he could do something this is to hiss, help, in some moments, to suggest, wow, yes, yes, yes, i remember what a good word , strict, he also stricted us, for example, we were not allowed to laugh loudly, because... here you are sitting there, reacting at someone who is playing something, and ha-ha-ha, well, so suddenly , such a hard look, yes, that means you can’t, you can’t express your emotions, there he hated bowing, yes, that is, these people, when the bows are being built, everyone bows for a long time while listening to the music, such a separate piece, he thought that it was just absolutely unintelligent, they came out, they bowed modestly and left, what are you saying, and now they just put on a whole performance with these bows, yes, but all this remains in us, and you are your student there, yes... you always pass on some of these things from them, from him there were two words, but for him it was just the biggest curse word, don’t amikoshonstvo, i still don’t know what it is, and nekabotinstvo, these are two curse words, but what are these, you need to look up the dictionaries, here’s nekabatinstvo and nevekoshonstvo – these are two of them annd vasiliov's curses,

because he had impeccable taste, here existence on the set, and look, he played some kind of losers, as they say today , and then... who do we want to play at the institute ititus, prostitutes, a drunkard, and even homeless people because it’s bright, it’s easy, that’s how he played this same loser in an office romance and in the irony of fate, the alcoholic is not an alcoholic, but a very drunk person, but everything is according to such a top rice and he didn’t go too far anywhere because he didn’t play anywhere, it’s all no more no me truth, yes, well, the organics are amazing, amazing, that’s why it’s also very it's strange that such an intelligent, apparently gentle, modest person, and such a powerful acting nature, yes, characteristic, with such a spirit, yes, yes, you know, i regret something, so

fate brought me together with such personalities, and it seemed that this it will always be like this, why was i inattentive, why didn’t i listen, why didn’t i ask questions, why didn’t i try to learn something, spy on something, or learn from some experience, i really regret it so much, really, andrei vasilyovich, well... lydia smirno, it seemed that this would always be endless, then i’ll still have time, but i have one photograph, well, between filming or between takes, i don’t remember, with andrei vasilyevich, hooligan, where we kiss, great, because that didn’t happen, yes, well, according to the plot, i’m nowhere with a pencil i’m close, there’s nothing like that, and here i am with him... she took a cigarette, smoked it, then said, i’ll teach you how to smoke in the gypsy way, this is

when you take a drag and, and i was taught the gypsy way by andryusha podoshyan, also my classmate, by the way , also a student andrey vasilyevich, well, in general, i really regret that i should have you little fools sit there, write everything down, look into all your eyes, but life was kind of young, i wanted to do everything here and there, but then it really seems that you... will have time, now i also really regret that i should have it’s a shame to communicate lately and ask for more, but well, it was difficult , and onovich didn’t even come to my performances, so i called him already, when i became a director, i started staging performances, i said, anovich, well , come and see, no i didn’t come once, at some point i said, why don’t you come, and i’m afraid to be disappointed in you, but he jokes all the time , i’ll come all the time, i won’t like it, i ’ll be disappointed in you, well, what can i say, tell me, why are you masha, if marina? and according to my passport i’m marina, when i entered the studikhat school brusnikin immediately called me masha, everyone started calling me masha, but i

never heard marina, because i was later baptized masha, the only person who called me marina - it was oleg nikolavich efremov, he was so patient to the end, but that’s all they call me masha absolutely and i was baptized masha, i was baptized as an adult, that when the child was born, i was baptized by mary, so i think that i have absolutely two names and now rarely does anyone call me marina, everyone calls me masha. but this happened with the light hand of dmitry brusnikin, you, too, were wonderful couples, everyone always talked about it, very beautiful, very correct, ideal, well, yes, i was very lucky in life, very lucky, and i continue to live all the time as if measuring himself and thinking, this is what dima should say and as if not to let him down, that there was such happiness, dima also then took courses and taught, yes, this is a podcast letter, i remind you, maria brusnikina is my guest, do you think they suffered from the axes that they have no children, or was it

absolutely meaningful, such a choice, i don’t know, you can’t get into it, it’s their personal life, i don’t think it was a meaningful choice, they had nieces, yes they did, with whom they dealt a lot, masha, well, it was great love, just great, i i don’t know of another example like this, but it’s true that asya loved detective stories very much, and when... she already re-read all and suffered from the fact that no, well, there is nothing fresh, there is nothing new , he said, i will write detective stories for you myself, i began to write, they were successful and there was even a film adaptation of one of his, i read it, i bought it, i read it , called and said that oh, how interesting, yes, yes, yes, he wrote for her, for asya , for his beloved, well, he was generally realized, so i think, when we talk about this closeness, he was realized in these paintings , he wrote, yes, he, as it were , well, yes, this is some kind of withdrawal from public life, conscious, of course,

leaving the theater, consciously, well then, of course, he was engaged in anastasia valentievna, who was ill, and what did she do , besides her main profession, i think that she was engaged in andrei vasilyovich, they were engaged in each other, yes, but she was generally very she loved poetry, she read a lot, she always had some kind of plans, when she had a plan to make some kind of program, she also called and read me all the time on the phone, which means poetry, akhmatova on akhmatova just with her and how - she, well, here are the books, the house, look how interesting their fate was in the cinema , theater, she began acting very early, mayor is a whirlwind, and the first role where she was young, beautiful, extraordinary, she is generally a bright, character actress, and she is also the heroine, she is she was a beauty, and she declared herself that way, and andrei vasilyevich did not suffer, he did not have any complexes. yes, that he lives with such a young star, and then everything changed, they began to invite her less often, and

andrei vasilyevich set the conditions, yes, that he would act in film. well he's a lot busy, he helped her a lot, that’s for sure, that’s why fate turns out this way, well, we can’t do anything here, no, of course, we can say that it’s fate, but they were together, there was no jealousy for the success of the other, no, i think that there was great love, respect, it was, it was also some kind of service to each other, it seems to me that this is so, i am so envious , how i would like, in such love, in such respect, to live in my life for at least a year, okay, laris, even years, uh-huh, well , everyone has their own destiny, this is now, when students are graduating, finishing fourth course, i just have this favorite formula now, yes, that don’t envy anyone at all , and don’t compare anything, absolutely everyone has their own destiny, here’s your destiny, somewhere else, now these shows in the theater, everything is different for everyone, this is a terrible time,

by the way, there is also a story connected with andrei vasilyevich when he dialed after nasko. now we’ve already finished, nikita vysotsky , the course leader, it was a very bright course, a very bright course, you too, well, yes with us, and well, they just weren’t distributed to anyone, then there, they graduated and they didn’t take anyone to the theater, it’s such a troubled time, but they ended up in this kind of hole, it happens, but for andriy vasilyevich, well, it happens differently, but for andriy vasilyevich this also speaks of her character, it was as if he never came to studiemhad school again, he said that he would no longer... teach, because if he spent so much energy on people and led them somewhere and something well, he promised them anyway, it turns out in the profession and no one needs it, then he would be this business look more, and when tatasha finished this course, it was the first year of perestroika, when everything became possible, when a little faith happened, everything happened, it seems to me, with

the same attitude towards the profession as andrei vasilyovich had. suddenly see this on the screen, yes, then everything began to be filmed from the americans as if through a carbon copy, look, some militant and obscene films appeared, but i couldn’t even, i can’t, i can hardly imagine andrei vasilyevich’s participation in this, i refused , he refused to leave pedagogy, then i brought him, once i managed to bring him to the studio school for one of our courses, just to talk to the students, and he talked like that, i say again, andrey vasilyevich, why go and teach, well this people need, no, this. this is such maximalism, and he also further understood the meaninglessness that the street would re-educate, yes, that it was like dry land, or its own meaninglessness, as if its own meaninglessness, because suddenly no one needed it, in one day, in an instant , this ceased to be necessary and valuable, remember, yes, the films of those years, for some time there was, there was time, yes, it was interesting, but andreich then

stopped acting, and then everything is already a different life. so he began to write, to save himself by this, apparently , but they traveled a lot, so they were actually very connected as a human by penchevsky, also our classmate who went to denmark, they talked a lot, went to see him, traveled around europe with volodya, volodya as - i took care of them for a very long time, but there is an amazing a letter that volodya has, a letter from andriy vasilyovich, and where he writes, and in general about what death is, and volodka somehow read it to us, and after some time, what year is this letter approximately , this is already somewhere, well, maybe two years before he died, but we were just shocked then, or maybe a little earlier, and volodya read it to us much later, when andrei was no longer vasilievich, we were shocked then by how much he thought about this

in advance, how he formulated it in general, that such is human life, and there’s just a level of some kind of, well, enormous intellect and philosophical attitude to life , to the world, alisha karamazov, who has matured, yes, absolutely, by 200 years, yes, i remember that we were all just then shocked by the way he formulates, how he thought, in general , about the meaning of life, that is, he prepared himself for this, you think, yes, well, he, of course, he thought about what life is, he is a believer there was a man, you don’t know, well, i don’t know this, that is, i never noticed it, didn’t i saw, well, well, listen, what's the question? interesting, somehow i don’t think about it, because it seems that yes, this is their closedness , this is their modesty, yes, ah, such selectivity, non-omnivorousness, when there is no passion for money, uh, how interesting, well, never it wasn’t advertised in any way, that’s for sure, yeah, the last time i saw andrei vasilyevich was at dima’s funeral, it was also so amazing, because he came, he

was already feeling bad, it was obvious, well, well, he came, this is the last time we saw each other, yes, well he is, we are very much his they loved him, of course, and in general, well, what a great man, such a beginning in life, yes, with such a teacher. yes, we had so much humor, so many jokes, it’s impossible that these same fools, all these fiklists kozyk brusnikina, these are individual people, we had some kind of rehearsal at the theater in amkhat, well, we were still students , for some reason we rehearsed in amkhat in tver, which is big , this hud, which is now kekhmanovsky named after gorikovo, which had cars there too, and he’s fashionable, andrei vasilevich, he’s on car, he was driving, back then there were only a couple of cars, but here was this lada, his car was parked near the theater. it was winter, and these fools, it means, started talking and rolled his car away, they just rolled it away, just around the corner, and they were so happy, which means they had arranged everything so well that they came out with asya after the rehearsal, so happy, since there was no car,

in general, for some reason everyone thought that he would be very happy to laugh, as if at their jokes, but he had one, he was like that, i remember he got angry, upset, he went down a rut and i was looking for where his car was, which means they turned the corner, it’s standing there, well, idiots, i remember that andrei vasilyevich really, somehow he didn’t understand this humor, and what was his reaction, he swore, swore at them , very, yes, it didn’t work out, didn’t appreciate it, didn’t appreciate it, didn’t appreciate this humor, no , well, there was a lot of funny stuff, of course, the humor in a person is incredible, incredible, you still somehow always appreciate it in people, here if there is humor, excellent, it means that he is a normal person, he has never pretended to be anything, has not tried to please, he always had some kind of readiness, but such composure , you know that he almost died with us during filming, and there was a terrible episode when he was sailing on a boat to a swallow, and he

very close, i just don’t know the name, that’s what it is, a propeller, yes, and it is very close to it, to this propeller on a boat, it was pulled up, and it was sucked in, it was scary, it was scary because... when the glasses and hairpiece floated to the surface, and andrei vasilyevich was not there, an empty boat, that’s all they realized that he died, what andrei vasilyevich went through, it’s generally incomprehensible, but there was no hysteria, nothing, well, thank god that he’s alive, for example, i can hardly imagine another actor in his place who would have been like that reaction, because everyone was scared, what a responsibility , and the directors, cameramen, it’s scary, well, this once again speaks of human dignity, of his kind of internal culture, well

, there’s a lot to learn from him, this is a podcast letter, i remind you, maria brusnikina is my guest, i think all the time, after all, about cruelty of the profession, so andrei vasilyevich and asiy decided. to close themselves off from the world, their right, and these ubiquitous paparazzi , who in recent years have been tracking them somewhere anyway, they were filmed, no longer very healthy, overweight asya and andrei vasilyevich, and how warm it was, so he held her all the time hand, all the time, well, yes, well, here i am, you started this topic with internal culture, there really are few such people, and when you come across them, you then... begin to measure yourself by these people too, yes, because it is clear that we are all incredible people emotional, explosive, temperamental, but artists, yes, and as if at that moment, when suddenly, suddenly something like this happens to you, i very often actually

remember this school of andrei vasilyevich, this restraint, and this is very rare , well, yes, this is an internal culture, it’s like respect, respect for the person, for the people who are nearby, and for yourself, for yourself, like sasha feklistov once told me, and sasha is also a wonderful classmate of ours, he’s somehow for me always. sasha suddenly tells me so calmly, and are you sure that you are always right, and somehow i remembered this for the rest of my life, or what intelligence is, so sasha said, you know, you’re driving a car, let someone else pass, and it’s also so simple, here in andrey vasilyevich - there was respect for others, not for himself, although it is clear that there was probably a sense of his own and his talent, yes, but this is respect for others, he and a serious attitude towards the profession, this is what he put in, of course in us, and you also know, he had some kind of