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[000:00:00;00] perhaps there were all the evenings near moscow and so on and so forth, and so we went abroad on tour from america abroad to israel, and also to different countries, but at the same time i also want to say that all the artists who actually returned later again to our stage and lyuba uspenskaya and stokare probably knew everything very well and you helped a lot of people in the development of their creativity, i recorded albums, i produced, here, too , this is a group... there was the arbat restaurant in los angeles, famous people here are also international americans, that's it, this one the girl still sings in the tom jones ensemble, next to her, in the middle , is zlatka pjakovic, the most famous yugoslav singer, in my opinion, has now passed away, and this is alexey zubov, an amazing musician, yes, he played in my orchestra, i invited him, i considered it a blessing, he was the greatest
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musician, an amazing intellectual. man, an incredible saxophonist, in general, the band was very strong, very strong, tell me, the return, the return to russia, to moscow, was in the early nineties, because the songs had already arrived, the ussr back, even then at the end in the eighties, they began to invite me, tapes came here, and they persuaded me, i was somehow very wary about going back to the soviet union, because leaving was not so easy. but they talked me into it, they talked me into it, in the nineties i went to several concerts, it turned out that 75 concerts happened, spontaneously, over three summer months in all the sports palaces, i think already at that moment you understood what volume is, what our viewer is here, we speak russian, i
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want to live here, i want to live here, here, i i wanted, i told myself, i felt, you know, i, i needed here, i wanted here, because i saw that they know me, they remember these songs, they do all this, you know, the podcast is on the air again melodies of my life, my name is valery syutkin, my guest is mikhail shofutinsky, and with great pleasure i want to state the fact that there is one absolutely, mysterious... popular, well, it is popular for its merits, but its popularity is mysterious because 10 years have passed since the song entered your repertoire, maybe a little less, her, i'm talking about the song on september 3. igor nikolaev, the author of poems, my friend, always said that there was no , of course, this is a date that was taken out of thin air, because the phrase sounds good, september 3, the fifth will be clumsier, the second,
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the third, excellent. and the melody was written by igor cool, the song ends up in the album, in principle, there is a good, warm relationship with it, but some time passes, through the mysterious mystical efforts of people with whom you are not familiar and have never asked them for anything, they begin to make a kind of cult out of this song, someone with such a sense of humor, brilliant, someone matte, in different ways, but the fact remains a fact, the entire internet is in... hero, i want to congratulate you, mish, the most important thing all normal people understand that hypertrophied interest in this or that song makes it popular, but if the song is unworthy, it no longer lives, it is a year and a half or two years old, and the work is 30 years old, it came out in 93, i got it in my nineties third, in ninety-four it was released in the album in
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the song of the year, now 2 nine we are the day before next year - it will be an anniversary year on september 30th, 30 years of which i have already been singing from concerts for 20 years and they tell me i’m not tired and you can imagine it’s phenomenal, you and i know when you have to sing the same songs at concerts, you start even at this is the time to think about something else , yes, i never get tired of it, the song is one of those that i simply love, because i love it, well, what can i say, we are fabulously lucky today. we were pleased with stories about his bright bright mish, there is evidence of life, i congratulate you, thank you, my dear, and i want to tell the tv viewers, if there is such a second, and i am very glad that valera syutkin is on the program today, because he is a wonderful person, a magnificent musician, an artist of the highest class, whom i love, respect, today is just my day of happiness, thank you, thank you, i wanted
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to say at the end, it’s a pity that i didn’t come here, why is the podcast melodies of my life, listen to the song on september 3: and let this ma’am, as he says , modern youth, let this work makes us happy for many, many more years, all the best, see you again.
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everything is wrong, everything is wrong, you are my friend, i am your enemy, how can it be, everything is with you, with you, with you. it was april in love, we swore , but alas, a yellow leaf flew along the boulevards of moscow, september 3, the day of farewell, the day when bonfires burn, like bonfires burn. and the promises on the day when i’m all alone, i
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’ll turn over the calendar, again the third of september, i’ll look at your photo, again the third of september, but why, but why should we leave everything. we had to, because we had everything seriously, on the second of september, but why, but why, we still had to part, because everything was serious with us, on the 2nd of september.
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cranes, white wedge, your daughter and my son, everyone wants warmth and affection, affection, we are in love, like a game, in the cold wind, we played with you, but i came with myself, september, the day of farewell, the day when they burn , love bonfires, like bonfires burn, promises, the day when i’m all alone, i ’ll turn over the calendar. again on september 3rd, in the photo i’ll look at yours, again on september 3rd, but why, but why, we still have to part
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i had to, because everything was serious with us, on the second of september, but why should we leave everything? we had to, because everything was serious with us, the second of september,
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i’ll turn the calendar over again, the third of september in the photo, i’ll look at yours again on the 3rd of september, but why, but why should we leave everything. we had to, because everything was serious with us, on the second of september, but why? we still had to break up, because everything was serious with us,
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on september 2. hello, this podcast is a must- read, i’m aglaina batnikova, director, writer, today we’ll talk with vadim leventhal, writer, literary critic, about truma on the hood and tiffany's breakfast. hello. vadim. let's first tell you about this novel, for those who haven't read it. we're talking about new york, it's 1943, world war ii. and the bohemian, new york youth, uh, are having a good time. and the aspiring young writer meets his neighbor, a young girl. unspecified occupation, uh, he is not
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fascinated, they develop a tender friendship. eh, let's figure it out, is this a novel about love or friendship? well i would have said before all that this is a novel, after all, is about this main character, that is, holi, yes, holi golightly, the fact is that this seems to me the most important thing in this text, in this book, and confirmation of what truman. sweat managed to create a wildly important female image, it serves the fact that we still remember, know and read this book, well, this image of the main character, it seems to me that it is important, because she seems to be as far as possible from the bourgeois ideal of a woman , yes, what is the ideal woman? the ideal of a woman is a respectable and chaste housewife, the mother of the family, that means she keeps up... she raises the children, she cooks for her husband, i don’t know
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, it’s roast beef, or cabbage soup, while she’s waiting for him to get to work, the wife, yes, yes, that’s the feminine ideal that we bourgeois society presents, as if consciously, yes, at the same time there is a fantasy of its unconscious, psychoanalysts call it phantasm, yes, that is, it is some kind of unconscious fantasy around which it is organized... but phantasm is still something erotic, not not entirely, but insofar as the life of the unconscious is generally in many ways - erotic, the main thing here is that we are not always aware of this fantasy of our unconscious, and it is even more difficult to understand how our inner world, in this case the inner world of this society, is organized around this fantasy about this woman , who is in a relationship with this ideal wife and mother of the family, is in a relationship of opposition, that is, she
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is absolutely opposite, right? let's discuss the film, how is it different from the book? there is no love story between the narrator in the book and the heroine, the relationship between them is friendly, love, friendship, i would say so, friendship, admiration, but there are no, yes, erotic experiences in this sense, in the film they tell us... a story, well, relatively speaking, calls, yes, that's it like i met a prince, well, there is also such a moment that tiffany’s breakfast in the film is some kind of almost product placement, tiffany, they hang out in this store, open some boxes, by the way, i’m not a movie , but i’m sure that this store paid for everything there, i’m also sure that the store paid for everything, but the fact is that in the book itself, in the novel itself, breakfast at tiffany’s exists as not... and an image of paradise for holly, but why does she
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tell fred about this paradise, she calls the hero fred by the name of her beloved brother, that is she says, i will call you fred, it doesn’t matter what your name is, you will be fred , so she conditionally shares with our fred, her intimate experiences, because she gets depressed, she has attacks of melancholy, she calls it wood on the wall , and only later we understand where it comes from, because she had... severe childhood, yes, she generally wandered around texas, ran away from home, so - tiffany for her is a place where she is calm, this... which saves her from depression, she comes there and lets her go, and it seems to me that this is completely different , than we see in the film, where we see just a jewelry store, but it’s not played out in any way, well, it seems to me that the important thing here is that this very store, in principle , it’s not like the image of her paradise, it’s basically
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bourgeois paradise, this is what bourgeois paradise looks like, you come, and there it means, here you are they sell it at a high price, but you have the money. in this paradise, yes, they sell you at a high price, that means all sorts of beautiful things, a dream , yes, they bring you coffee there with you, this, this is a bourgeois paradise, but what’s important here is that when she talks about this, they climb the wall, they the narrator remembers the word anxst, yes, anxst is a word from heideger’s philosophy, actually , well, let’s not confuse the audience here at all, but let’s just say one thing, that in accordance with heideger’s philosophy, this is the... feeling of angst, it -that is what gives birth, generally speaking, consciousness, yes, that is, outside of this, what she calls climbing the wall , there can be no consciousness, and this means that in a bourgeois paradise, where there is no angst, there can be no consciousness, you become, as it were,
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a vegetable, yes, that’s why in the book we are rather happy for her that she ended up in africa, but there, well, who doesn’t want to travel around africa, then there, look, on the other hand, how objectively sad the ending of the film is, when we understand, well, that's it, with this heroine nothing will ever happen again in life won’t happen, so she’s become boring, which means she’ll now be in a big pot of cabbage soup, and so on for the rest of her life, and surrounded by, that means, these jewels and so on and so on, and well, that’s it, tell me more about you and nothing. about the one who travels through africa, we feel that we can write a few more there, yes, yes, yes, i imagine holly, of course, completely differently than, well, of course, yes, hebron is such a sheep , she ’s like she’s in the clouds, it’s just that
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i don’t have this predatory thing, nothing, dangerous, yes, well, yes, bambi the fawn, yes, yes, yes, that’s absolutely right, and her eyes are like that, well... holly, a terrible past, at some point fred notices that he’s watching her on the street some suspicious man, 50 years old, begins to approach him to find out what is going on, and this man tells him that it turns out that holly is his wife, he is a farmer from texas, and she is his wife , whom he married at the age of 13, and her name is lulamey, that she was 13 years old, she was 13 years old. he already had many children of his own, and he says: i’m looking for my mistress, so the heroes find out that it turns out that holly’s name is actually lula mae, so holly quite unexpectedly meets with love this ex-husband, she, that is, we assume that she might even pretend that
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she doesn’t know him, yes, because some simple person, simply dressed there, maybe doesn’t smell very good. smells like manure, and here is holly, who one might say, uh, hangs out in the company of hollywood stars and producers, in the best clothes, very fashionable, famous, so say, it girl, and but suddenly we see, completely unexpectedly, for me , at least, that she throws herself on the neck of this ex-husband, consoles him, spends the night with him, sees him off to the bus, tries to explain to him that she no longer lula mae, but i think it's quite such a - such a touching trait, but i just wanted to go back to audrey haborn, that i can't imagine audrey haborn, a texas farmgirl, there's absolutely no way, but according to this woman on on you can see on the screen that she
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didn’t experience all these horrors, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, i also wanted to mention, there is an interesting twist that holly, after all , in communicating with men, she is az, i consider a virtuoso, and this is manifested, by the way, in particular, in the fact that when she is abandoned , this man whom she chose as her husband, having learned that her reputation was ruined by her arrest and connection with the mafia, he is a diplomat and he urgently leaves without saying goodbye, leaving her some terrible letter, uh, she is in the hospital , because that she had a miscarriage due to nerves, fred comes to her. and brings this letter, she tells him: i need to put on makeup lips, because a girl can’t read such letters without makeup, right? not just her lips, she’s there in general, she puts on makeup for a long time before she reads this letter, well, when she reads this letter, when it’s clear that he
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abandoned her and will never appear again, she writes, god bless you and your child, he writes , actually the father of this child, here she is reading this, and i was completely shocked that she said what a rat, but i loved him, that’s it, there’s no more talk about him, that is, she instantly forgets about it, that is, she’s after gets up, shakes herself off and runs on with a cheerful gait, i wouldn’t be able to forget a man so easily, for example, even if he came close and hurt me, but holly completely shocks me, she’s basically a samurai, so in the feminine sense, well yes, you can live like a wolf with wolves, but how else can you survive in this cynical world, which is structured according to the principle of man, man is a wolf, you die today, and i die tomorrow, because these are the principles of that very capitalism, the torch of which
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throughout the united states has passed the century, right? not will survive there, no, no beautiful soul there, i don’t know, the heroine of some soviet book, yes, it doesn’t come to mind now, some beautiful soul there , an idealist, yes, who is for ideals there, for the public good there, and so on and so on, no, not instantly, they’ll roll it into asphalt, eat it, you can survive. only - with such a moderate amount of cynicism, but she still loves the kitten, and also the kitten, you see, she is trying to pretend that she doesn’t care about this kitten, like, he doesn’t have a name and in general we fate brought me together, i’m not attached to him, and then it turns out that i am, that is, you see, this is such a dichotomy, on the one hand she is cynical and tries to be cynical, on the other hand it doesn’t always work out, but after all, this is her nature it turns out initially it is kind. kind of kind by nature, yes, but she still breaks through, she generally
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doesn’t give the cat a name, you see, and they don’t call the hero by name, that is, she tries not to get attached to people, probably yes, because this is a place of weakness , of course, for her, he’s trying to cover up his vulnerability, but what the the name is holly galatly, you read the novel in the original, but in english, what do you think, well, after all, i read this book in russian. who understands english, this is obvious, explain to me, holi from the word holiday, yes, day off, holiday, yes, yes, let's say that this is the name that she took for herself, this is her pseudonym, which she herself came up with, woman holiday , a woman is a holiday, and lightly, i would say this, if you take a creative approach to translation, it’s something like your own on the board, well, that is, a person with whom it’s easy to communicate, here she is for these her men, she’s like this go lightly, that is, there’s no need to strain, everything is fine
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, i’m one of my own, well, that is, they are predators, yes she is a predator, but they play a completely different game, it turns out, their own game, yes, but again, here in this aquarium she is a piranha, i also wanted to talk about the fact that this novel became a breakthrough for troman hood, yes he is famous and why do you think his early works were not noticed, maybe it’s in the image of this holi, maybe maybe he really met such a girl, she became his muse, it seems to me that some there most likely wasn’t one specific girl, most likely it was a collective image, he just saw a lot of such girls, well because there are too many of them in real life, then they raised their hands and shouted that it’s me, it’s me, it’s me, but they served sued... she gave it to the court, because she really had the last name golightly, we are sure that in appearance she was completely different, the hoods
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didn’t even know her, well, there, well, well, when 20 women come out and say that prototype i, obviously, that the image is collective, by the way , let’s also say that it’s forwarded that some features, generally speaking, of a biography, and of this very heroine, these are features of the biography of truman’s mother, childhood, early marriage, which is probably for a teenage girl, actually traumatic, yes, at the age of 13, and a very early independent life , and a lonely independent life in a big city, in my opinion, also in new york , i don’t remember exactly now, maybe he took his mother’s features precisely in order to elevate this holi to some kind of figurative pedestal, one might say, maybe be, anyway, one way or another, here's the luck of the hood is that
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this collective image hit the mark, yes, that is, it really is a story for the unconscious of this very bourgeois society, that is, if it had not hit the bull’s eye, then well , the book would not have been such a success, yes, but the success of a book is always guaranteed hitting the bull's-eye in some problematic, some kind of wound, where it actually festers, bleeds, that's when a writer or... an artist in the broadest sense sticks his pen and society in there, this is something that cannot be ignored will be remembered for a long time, this is what you think is the problem, that it is precisely this kind of woman who is out of touch and the opposite of the stepford wife, it is she who arouses interest, desire, this is not a problem in that you are consciously
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declaring one thing, unconsciously you have a fantasy. it’s completely different, guys, you have bipolar, well, as they write on your entournets, yes, but you can’t pray to an icon, and like turn away and do some other actions with dirty pictures, yes, that is, this is a contradiction, this this is cynicism, this is duplicity, yes, that is duplicity within this society, it undermines it from within, destroys it, yes, i want this contradiction. take it off, there’s a sense of insincerity in this, okay, vadim, let’s wrap it up, if there’s anything else you want to mention, say something separately, i could maybe say something about cold-blooded murder, why this novel is interesting, and what it is described there, but the book can go on for a very long time about cold-blooded murder, it seems to me that this is the best book on the hood and maybe one of the best american books
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of the 10th century and maybe the best nonfiction ever generally written. yes, let's say this with a metaphor, yes, that's who watched lynch's films, for example, there is blue velvet, yes, there is blue velvet that opens with a frame, the camera flies from above over such an ideal american town, yes, here is one-story america, that means toy houses, it’s such a pastoral, colored cars are driving, it means there are bushes, someone is watering them, it means these bushes are watering , in general everything is just perfect, everything is fine, then the camera goes down, under the carpet, something is noticeable there, there are insects that are so smart, who devour each other, there it’s just that a chill runs down your spine, goosebumps and complete horror, because yes, behind the back of this
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page under the carpet, real nightmares are hidden. that is, he is talking about the hoods about the inside out and about what is swept under the carpet, yes, yes, yes, yes, and this is his tool and his success in this, his success, well, great art, because after all, with such with passion and such talent, few people have succeeded in revealing the ulcers and ulcers of bourgeois society, and easily and aesthetically, right? yes, yes, yes, oh, it’s terribly exciting, because you read just can't put it down. and most importantly, in the end you even sympathize with these killers, of course they are still scum bastards there and so on and so forth, but you just understand how they became such scum bastards, you understand the logic, the pattern, but at that moment real horror seizes you , because in another logic , in other patterns, these same guys could be, i don’t know, polar explorers,
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space explorers, pilots, good-looking, okay, for the conversation, thank you oglaya, this was a must-read podcast, i’m oglaya nabadnikova, director, writer, podcast host, today we discussed tiffany's breakfast, this is the famous novel by truman the hood, with vadim limental. hello, on the air news, in the studio sergei tygushe, at the beginning of the episode, briefly about the main thing. air strikes, russian missile launchers hit several ukrainian armed forces targets, and our drone captured footage of the destruction of targets. the oldest and most numerous

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