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the funds there in our... helped, it was, but as for what to sing, how to sing, how to record, we were always on our own, well, that is, such sverdlovsk self-sufficiency was in every group, that is, no one ever i used no services of producers, everyone was purposefully focused on their own work, and you remember the first visit to moscow, performance in the program, look, this is the first ray of fame, which, i remember, that at first... we also had some kind of festival in 1988 we already started going there later we went, moreover, the kingdom of heaven andrei razbash is famous, he shot our debut video , iva kalman, and we actually filmed part of it in the circus, and part of it was filmed at his house directly on the treadmill, there were very good times, thank him very much for some leader

contribution, ours, and the gaze program naturally did not ignore us, marina lozovaya was such a music editor, thank you very much , she noticed us, she traveled around the country, filmed rock festivals, then all this ended up in the gaze program and, of course, we we owe a lot to this program and specifically to marina lazova for the fact that in 1988/89 we found ourselves in the circle of legendary musicians, again it’s worth worrying about the fact that now there is no such thing, thanks to the same marketing, they used to tell people: listen to this, listen to this, and now people tell us what they want to listen to, and we are forced to give it to them, because there were three stations, and now there are 73, the same with channels, so narrow segmentation was inevitable, segmentation this is our separateness of all existing ones, but this can be said about cultural processes, about the media, about us in general, about society, right?

this gathering of us all into something, some kind of memory of the fact that we are part of one organism, there on a national level, on a cultural level, on a social level, this is extremely... not important now, that is, this gathering, it is inevitable , we simply won’t survive without it, including new music itself. listen, do you have a formula for the perfect hit that will be accepted by all the people, well, just like most of agatha christie’s songs, what it consists of, i was lucky, very lucky, i found and worked with people who were at least interested in each other, this is what it is, this conglomerate. creative personalities, which gives an absolutely outlet, you see, people who are unpleasant to each other cannot do something masterpiece, this is impossible, rock roll is first communication, then music, why, because it is connected with the textual content, if a person understands that you have something in your soul, then that’s it, that’s it, if in

in jazz, music really comes first, and then communication, that is, this is the entrance ticket , as you know how to speak on an instrument, then the moral situation is exactly the opposite, plus some conceptual ones, of course, this is poetic, so i think that the best formula is a hit - this is a group of people who want to do something together that we recently came up with the same rock-roll brotherhood, it’s more about the blues, probably this rehearsal, isn’t there such a group where there are just damn good musicians, they played great, they recorded cool, they played a concert and dispersed quickly, but there was simply no soul, that’s the point, there should be exactly this human chemistry here. chemistry, so that people want to do something together, vadim and i recently discussed that at one time, when we were recording, we were already involved in this process and we, even despite some flaws, we were already proud of the fact that we create something, that’s the only way, that’s the only way to develop into very bright works, which

really, what is a landmark work, is a bright event that is recorded in history, so i believe that it was precisely by arriving at such a formula for an absolute hit, as it seems to me. through precisely this way, plus, of course, we need to add to what we all say, russian rock, whether it exists, whether it exists or not, but i believe that it exists indisputably and is distinguished by its peculiarity in that it has that same mysterious russian thing called soul, if let’s say american british rock can be aesthetic and simply played, that’s not enough for us here, we need some more content, that’s what something like this content, do you understand it? it multiplies in the members of the group, it goes there, it goes there, then everyone begins to add this content to something personal, this is how our russian rock hits are born, so for us this is the state of the group, the state of camaraderie, the state of this brotherhood , it is extremely important, but

doesn’t this, let’s say, kitchen singing interfere with the professionalism of the group’s sounds, when, well, no, these are parallel things, after all, yes, well , in sverdlovsk we are lucky to have in our groups there were amateur authors etc. amateur authors, we had more or less all this well, we had entire communities of professional music school graduates, then they worked in restaurants, many of them, performed in some professional groups, they participated in the life of a rock club, they helped amateur musicians to perform, and this gave this interpenetration, some kind of interesting creative idea and its high-quality expression in musical terms. cool, if possible, we are a little bit of a coupe, cars time, go back to the 2000s on a certain day, there on the best day of your life in 2000, i would have gone to the premiere

of the film brother-2, because at the premiere i just enjoyed so many pauses filled with bursts of laughter in the audience for each phrase, i... well, i don’t remember, to be honest, yes, it was in the russia concert hall, the premiere of the film brother-2, after each phrase, and then, well, if it’s not a phrase, it’s basically gold , yes, the hall simply exploded, and balabanov was so good at arranging these pauses, he gives a place to this during the film, yes, that is, in the example, it was just a huge class, and then there was a concert, but whether it was later, there is already a series of concerts going on, and dedicated to the film brod2, which is now. naturally, it is relevant for other reasons, because many thoughts, ideas expressed in it are now, well, extremely relevant against the backdrop of what is happening in our home in the world, yeah, well, for you here is the main idea from this film, well, i believe that

the hero created by balabanov and bodrov, lyrical of this film, that is, danila bogrov, this is such an archetype of our national hero, something in between ilya and that is, on the one hand, he is absolutely, well, unsophisticated, yes, he is truthful, he has the specifics of rights, wrongs, which means he has gigantic strength, that is, he does not waste his time on trifles, on the one hand, on the other hand, he is ready to just bite into it, if there is injustice, he has gigantic spiritual strength and strength that he can use, so the truth is yes , well, there is strength in truth, russian at war they don’t abandon their own, and a whole scattering of them is still there, this is really the russian soul, that’s because balabanov, few people know, alexey was a participant in the fighting in afghanistan, so it’s all believable and... even the farce that arises, but a little

in the style, he, he is still around a believable hero, this is precisely the fantasy of these films, i believe that , of course, danila bogrov is the quintessence of the work of alexei balabanov, serodrov realized this image, and i can tell you, i travel a lot - starting from the fourteenth year there to donbass and saw militias there, saw those there who. came as volunteers from russia, i saw the look of danil bogrov in the eyes of each of them, that is, this is just such an idol and a sign of today’s time, the most important thing is that there is morality there, and you talked with seryozha bodrov, like seryozha badrov we are a whole film we did, i say, about a month and a half on the line film, of course, and lyosha balabanov supervised this project, and bodrov and i often met with balabanov there on vasily island in the apartment, balabanov, that means he

he taught how to make a movie, how it was in the sverdovsk ruklub, what the atmosphere was like, in general , he uttered almost the same words that we have said many times here today, it was a very good, good time, and of course, the charm of sergei’s smog, being a superstar how we walked the streets with him, easily, very simply, with normalcy in the world, he was, so to speak, sociable in the world, he kept his distance, i spied a lot of things from him... for the future in the sense of he with what dignity, openness communicates with fans with restraint, yeah, and as an actor he has very modest facial expressions, but at the same time he exudes a very warm charm, yes, i was also lucky enough to communicate with him and somehow very quickly, not even me with him, but he got along with me, it’s just that the distance immediately collapsed, and he’s just like, what do you think, this is normal, i’m like that, they ask me, i’m really interested in my opinion, cool, how did you select songs for your sisters, and for the sisters seryozha selected the songs, and yes, yes, he is the director, this

this is always the prerogative of the director, yes, he sees, then he can say, here some kind of theme is needed, i say, let's take the theme, for example, from the song there, little red riding hood, for example, yes from the album, gleb also took part active in condemning creative moments, so yes, the work was so good, but we must give credit to balabanov and bodrov, on the one hand, they have a clear idea of ​​the role of music, how it should be... yes, but they give a certain creative freedom too, i know you have certain ones that are so interesting, non-standard literary preferences, what is the author's favorite book? you know, i didn’t have that friendship with fiction, like my brother, for example, well, naturally, i went through the whole school curriculum, but somehow very unexpected things stuck in my head, for example, i was sick of bianca, but suddenly it hit me in ustovsky’s way, it would seem about the same thing, yes, about nature , but in general i was a fan of science fiction and my favorite author stanislav lem

, well, lately i’ve been a lot i read philosophical literature, a lot of literature on spiritual development, so i continue to love physics, i continue to love quantum physics, all sorts of theories, well, perilman - yes, i had this infusion book at school, this is the person i was at 5 years old i just took the book out of... the closet and didn’t let it out of my hands until i learned to read before school, also because i was wildly interested, his fantastic entertaining physics, he was a great educator, yes, yes, well now there are also a lot of interesting things, which connect quantum theory and that is, macrocosm and microcosm, this is all very interesting, it generally seems to me that , civilizationally and in all aspects of the humanities, science, civilization, we are approaching such a leading edge, yes, when everything is already becoming smaller on the one hand more, at the same time, we have already climbed into the human genome, we have already climbed into the microworld, that is, it is quite possible that humanity is approaching the brink of knowledge, so to speak, well,

all the subtleties from which god created it, but this whole universe, here of course there is a huge danger, because, well, man is an ambitious creature and often falls into such pride, and such great pride that i will now surpass the creator god, whether you believe in him or not, someone created all this, you know, understanding, like the gods, this is catching up, well, i don’t think that this is life , i’m just promoting this topic, you still need to give, it already thinks, it doesn’t think, it selects options, and this is ours emotionally. response, when we look at the results of what it picks up, how we revive it within ourselves, no, it’s still not a living being, there is no need to deceive ourselves, that is, we are really approaching this threshold, and we will either once again destroy ourselves as humanity, i am absolutely convinced that this has already happened on this planet, or we will still jump into

some new quality of this same cosmic humanity, which will already go to the stars, because you can’t go to the stars from expansion, it seems to me that in order to survive and move on, people must transform their understanding, so coexistence with each other. listen, and you say that now you are reading in spiritual literature, some kind of retreats, maybe some kind of spiritual trips, of course, i - in a lot of ways, in fact, now many people are interested in, and then meditation, yoga, they go on retreats, visit goobali and all sorts of other exotic places, it’s debatable, so i came to nabal, looked there, there are whole big , fashionable vegan restaurants in which very beautiful people sit, with very beautiful tattoos of all kinds, in mermaids, outer space, crosses there, something else, but then, when i was there longer, i found out that this one cheated this one, this one, that is, what i’m leading to is that the knowledge of

the system itself is a device, and how else does not guarantee, there must be morality within all this, yeah. because knowledge of the instrument, how the world works, yes, how the soul works, how you can control, as it were, some processes of your life, is one thing, but morality is another, therefore, why i consider orthodoxy very important for myself, because in orthodoxy is this one ethics and morality, no matter how we treat it, for some it doesn’t sound too conservative, and it looks , and indeed, no matter how you look at the church, it looks, well, let’s say, for a modern enlightened person there, this may look too archaic, and i suggest that people who , well, have some moral questions for themselves, treat this as an institution of morality, first of all, how i came to understand that there is a higher power, in general, what is the meaning? yup, i got it again

for scientific literature, i just read theory to them, i read string theory, at some point i had an understanding that everything is not just living, but that everything is the result of a creative plan, there is all life in it, there is life in everything life, it’s just a person’s feeling, you know, makes us think that everything that doesn’t have a brain like the one in our head, it’s all inanimate, mineral, life has completely different forms, and a person must understand this in order to move on, all the commandments fit into one phrase, don’t do to others the way you don’t want them to do to you , all these scammers... everyone too, everything is all under this, they will do everything just love, love is not something abstract, that’s what they all say there the world there is about love, there love is what you should feel for the world, yes thank you, albert, what kind of view do you have on me, in fact, i will say that i look at the world from the point of view of creativity, i think , what any

creativity unites is spiritual salvation for people and unites them as creatively and creative people, absolutely everything, that is, our world is, in principle, one big, in fact, the creation of everything, everyone, strictly speaking, came into this world to do something, to unite with someone, something... then leave behind me, so my attitude towards all this is this, that is, i am a person who relies on fate in everything, i am still grateful to fate that i know vadim, i have a clear conviction that after 30 years i go with him, it’s simple, it’s not without reason that i don’t play the drums now, i play the bass on the guitar, because vadim has known me for almost 40 years, and knows all my passions and love for the guitar and bass guitar and for all my creative musical emotions, my vibrations, it turns out that he’s a multi-instrumentalist, and that’s why

apart from him, no one would have given me this opportunity, i would also like to add, it’s wonderful, you know, that we have the term creativity, that’s the word creativity in general lately... to some extent usurped by the creative class, that is, creativity - this is a must sing draw, dance, well, that is, something like that, although in fact, if we talk about creativity, if we remember the metaphor that god created man in his own image, creativity is absolutely in every person, and what we do is one of the forms of creativity is art, yeah, maybe it’s an engineering solution, an advanced one, and not creativity then. just to light up a person, see some goal, want it, motivate yourself, take steps and produce something, yes, this is creativity, it is in every person ongoing, as a matter of fact. or this is a society uniting radio engineers, musicians, any people who are associated with some kind of creation , this is creativity, they create something, thereby they create

the world, they create something that common humanity uses, well, i think , that the logical conclusion would be a song, this is something new , the age of aquarius, yes, maybe a few words about this song before we hear it, history, well, erovodolia is a very well-known term, erovodolia is known from the point there is a correspondence, because few people think about it, but our solar system also fluctuates along the equator of the galaxy, that is, the solar system rises in one plane every 25-26 years, then falls into another, well, from the point of view of astronomy, astrologers add all sorts of ancient vedic teachings to this, that every position of the solar system has become the planet earth. under the equatorial plane of the galaxy or above it speaks of different energies, this is where different yugas arise from the point of view of hindu philosophy, in

in which humanity, and the conditions in which it lives, becomes either softer or harsher , it’s as if aquarius symbolizes the exit into a new phase of existence, the solar planet remains alive with us, and there is a version that humanity will begin to awaken precisely from this ... gravity, that it will become more compassionate to each other, more understanding, more humane, yes, it will understand itself more as a human family, in fact, of course, i really want to believe in this, but this is such a long plan, we don’t know whether this is true or not, but i would really like this to happen and the song , that’s why it’s called the age of aquarius, you guys are great, vadim samoilov, albert potapin, agatha christie group, in the podcast 20 years later, listen song era vodali. let

’s move on and let everyone go, we’ll measure the pluses with the minuses, and with a smile we’ll remember how empty we were forever. but no regrets have been burned, let’s move up the dates of birthdays, a new world will already be born, and the old one will be completed, a new world will already be born, a maple body will be born. vavala the soul, taking the first step, peace on earth until

death, from christmas, rise, or stay until the end, everyone will choose... himself, as soon as i count the time. stayed or go to the end, everyone will get out

as soon as i read get it. hello, friends, this is the podcast life of the wonderful with you, me, its host, writer alexey varlamov, my guest is vladimir romanovich ligoida, whom i’m even afraid to introduce, he has so many positions and responsibilities, and the magazine... sheet, professor mgemo , editor-in-chief of foma magazine, chairman of the department for interaction between church and society, head of the press service

of his holiness the patriarch, public. figure, religious leader, vladimir ivanovich, how did you get to this life, that’s what interests me first, i want to say that your responsibilities are no less than your positions, dear alexey nikolaevich, well now i’m asking a question, i represent you, yes, yes , yes, well, somehow, you know, by the way, i was recently thinking in connection with one date in my life that somehow everything turned out perfectly for me naturally, but i still read the teaching in my main incarnation, i really wanted to teach, i started teaching while... i was still a student, well, sometimes such stories happen to us, and in fact i lived at the institute and continue to live there, and then, when the patriarch turned this professional movement of life around so sharply, he gave me such an honor by inviting me to create a department that was new at that time, information, well, with the magazine it also happened somehow very naturally, back in our senior years we came up with the idea

foma and i, at first, with volodya gurbolikov, you know well, at first we were with the editors, then i immediately became the editor-in-chief, so when i work at the journalism department, i always say that it’s difficult for me to talk about some journalistic things, actually, because i immediately became the chief in charge, i had my first position, editor-in-chief right away , so something like this, well, you know, what else is interesting, because , as far as i understand, you were not born in moscow, far from moscow, in the north kazakhstan in kustan and there you studied, then after graduating from school you entered mgemo, the second time around, anyway, i would like to dwell on this: the moment, yes, for me mgemo, it was generally something transcendental, i’m just in mgemo only because of connections, only the children there are from what - families, that’s how the idea came into your head that you why exactly mahemol, mom, mom , mom wanted it, mom wanted it, as they say, i once joked that out of obedience i, i wanted to faculty of philosophy, moscow state university, moscow state university, but first urgu, first to serdlovsk, to yekaterinburg, i even went there when i was

as a schoolboy, i had some conversations, but everyone said that it was impossible, that’s exactly what you just said, what’s there, but the first time it didn’t work out, you say, the first time it didn’t work out, i had a medal , mgemo medalists then had to confirm their medal with two exams, and i wrote an essay for five, which doesn’t happen , so to speak, but i passed english for four, in general, that is, you were stabbed to death in english, well, i wasn’t stabbed, i objectively, of course, didn’t knew, and i had to take it further, then there were five exams, and i ended up scoring 22 points, it was 23, that is, the pass rate turned out to be 23, and you still took the risk of going there again a year later, yes, somehow i already had it, i prepared, prepared, worked in parallel for several months, though in an ambulance help as an orderly, well, in general, i looked at life, so to speak, from different angles, in different optics, so i got in, and i got in, since the medal was still valid, i got two a’s, i got in, yes, but i’m still very interested, because how much i i understand that

it was a terribly interesting time. it was the late eighties, early nineties, it was an extremely interesting time, because i entered as a citizen of the ussr, by the end of the first semester i became a foreigner and in general everything was incomprehensible, although you know, i recently thought about this, when we talked with students, i talked about their time , this is what they are going through now, and i understand that we didn’t feel all this drama that we are talking about now, the collapse of the soviet union, but what did you feel, i’m very interested in this, this feeling, that we live in an era of change, yes, on before our eyes, everything is changing, what will happen next, no one knows, this is parting with the past, these rallies are some kind of august rally of the ninety-first year there or, on the contrary, october of the ninety-third, that’s how you perceived it all then, it will sound strange, i was never interested in politics, having graduated from a political university, defended myself in political science , somehow, well, it was always less interesting to me, and

the august puch... i remember that i had just returned to kostanay, my dad had and still has an apiary , here we go, we are just me i remember a difficult evening, we extracted honey, i’m still hurting and these bees are there, that means they’ve stung you, everything is very painful, and we turn on the radio, and i say to dad, dad, don’t turn it on, i’m already telling you, he says, what are you doing all of a sudden? let’s miss something important, i say, well, what could be important, that’s what’s there now on the eighteenth and august 19th, yes, he turns it on, which means we hear it, he says, you see, son, and you said, that means nothing chui, well, in ninety-three years i was studying as an exchange student in the states, i remember that i was able to do it on a completely legal basis with run away from some lecture, because i approached the professor, in northern california it was at the university, i say, have you heard what is happening in our country, yes, i say, you know, i’ll let you go, please, i have to to see what's going on, he says, yes, yes, of course, go, here we are then here uh. but

it was completely curious, because i left , it turns out from one side, returned to the other in every sense, and now, how do you perceive all this? now you... a prism in general , here are thoughts about how human, humanity, society, i don’t know, academic circles are able, being in the moment, to assess the situation, or is it still the need for historical distance, there is such an imperative requirement for assessment, well , firstly, because we don’t know the consequences, but when is everything today they say, the historical nature of the events taking place, i understand perfectly well that this is so, but i also perfectly understand that we do not understand, firstly, without knowing the consequences, yes, being in the process, we still cannot appreciate it, and i it seems that this is not true

given and impossible for man, i think a lot, well, i can’t say, i think deeply , but still periodically i ask this question about the importance of historical distance and what else is needed to evaluate events, but it just seems to me that almost no one assumed that the soviet union will collapse when... now people say, yes, we knew everything, we always knew, there were different ones, i understand, there were forecasts, there were some of these, but then in the moment, i heard, recently lectures there by our outstanding historians, who, to be honest, well, no one assumed this, returning to your question, it seems to me that somehow i, like probably many of my classmates, friends, we still partly existed in some kind of, well, i can’t say, such an academic reality, yet some kind, but still, that’s where your treasure is, that’s where your heart is, that’s how i started to be interested in literature there, i continued to be a philosopher in that space, somehow it was more interesting for me there, then we opened a church for ourselves in this time, and i, for example, if i remember what happened on first year, then despite all the drama and scale of the events that we are talking about, i remember much more sharply and clearly, for example

, remember, this is an orthodox shoe store, as it was called, because there was the only store where they sold religious literature, this there was a department on the frunzinskoe metro station in a shoe store there were several tables, and there, in my opinion, from the publishing department... yes, the moscow patriarchate, yes, they sold the first reprint of this letter, i remember this very well, well, from what you say, rather, the youth of such a future academic professor is developing, who really lives in history in philosophy, and it turns out that you are now at the forefront of political life doing something that seems to exclude the possibility of distance, yes, if you are forced to comment on certain events , the relationship between the church and society, you can’t say, let me, a year or so will pass, and i’ll tell you what to think about this or... that, what to do with the trinity icon or some other things, that's how it gets along with you, well, you know, it seems to me that i realized in time, just as i realized at school that i was not a poet, and at some point at the institute i realized that i was not a scientist, well, just because with all my

interest in academic life, there is respect for philosophy there, during my postgraduate years i generally disappeared in the department of philosophy, in what department i studied, then it was called the faculty of international information, yeah. public relations, in graduate school i already visited my favorite teacher pavlovich vyazimsky at the department of world literature and culture, but i defended myself in political sciences, but i realized that after all , i don’t have this dominant academic scientist, i’m not ready to give it all up, i’m still a teacher, that is, a popularizer, i know, when just at school, i remember, we arrived in yekaterinburg , went to the faculty of philosophy and we got to a lecture about engels, and i remember - this is what the teacher said, that marx was really a thinker, and engels , he is such a popularizer, i somehow got this idea in my head and i don’t mean that i compare myself with engels, but i understand that i’m a popularizer, i can find contact with the audience as long as i have

this, i understand that this could go away tomorrow, because as you know very well, every time you enter the audience, it’s like all over again, and you don’t understand whether this lecture will work or not, in fact, i have this spread it turned out, but as for... my current basic obedience, forgive me, i am the word i use it, but in some sense it is so, then i treat it in such a way that i was probably needed, i was given such an honor, they called me, i came, that is, you didn’t ask for it, i didn’t ask for it, i didn’t go , i’m not because this is something like that, well, i just didn’t have such plans, i wasn’t going to change anything, i was the head of the journalism department, we were going to write some kind of textbook, i planned to somehow build this . teaching, academic, this turn is unexpected, but i i understand that for these 15 years i lived there, well, several lives, and no matter what dimension you take, i was on bering island.