[000:00:00;00] it’s not difficult to impose yourself on people, you have to impose yourself, get acquainted, you don’t need to impose yourself, your task is to learn how to get to know people, you don’t need to analyze it in any way, you just need to do it, just promise me that you will do it, you don’t know how you will do it, you don’t know at what point, with whom, just say, i’ll do it, i don’t know, mash, well, if you can’t do it, how will you get married, it’s important to start getting out of this box, it’s important to learn to walk. you see, it’s like you haven’t learned this, you need small steps, so i strongly recommend that you do this, i think to get acquainted, if you visit some places, go somewhere, have some hobbies, if there are any, then there will be men there and maybe someone will like me, i think so, you don’t get acquainted for dates, get acquainted just for communication, even just a three-minute conversation

, and through communication, because naturally, first you need to get to know each other, and then there will be communication, you now, when this broadcast goes out, hundreds of thousands of men will see you, i’m sure that at least one of them will like you, maybe some of them will even start looking for you, now maria has another fear, why might that same prince, so in order to prepare for this meeting, mash, start getting acquainted with people in everyday life, that is, if you meet a familiar person like this the feeling that i’m getting to know him only because of his appearance, but i don’t know him anymore, that is, if i’m somewhere in some company of people you don’t recognize, i communicate, i know the person a little, and the person knows me a little, then it’s as if we’re getting to know each other not by appearance, but by communication, super mash, but now we need to to get acquainted because of appearance, with these three people you will meet today, we hope that you will get to know them, it is not necessary to go on a date with all of them , just talk about what to do, just get to know each other, of course, just talk, you

will be going now, taxi, meet the driver, just what is your name? my name is masha, you don’t even have to say anything more, you really need to get a very simple thing, you need to get biological feedback, like actions, which will little by little shape your social intelligence, then emotional intelligence will be formed, yes, you are 30 years late, but you need to start doing it now, since you are here, okay, well, in general i am a sociable person. just with those you know, yes, i noticed, i noticed how you communicated when you were being made up, they were dancing inside, apparently, outside, unfortunately, it looks like a wax figure, that’s what’s the matter , believe me, our conversation today will only be useful to you if you do, and i think that for many people who are watching you now, it it will be useful even if they heard the conversation with you, so i am very grateful to you that you came and really spoke,

because this... this is a very big step for you, it’s like going into outer space. we thank you, we hope that you will still choose the bright side, both yours and your mother’s. this was the triggers with you podcast, its hosts were tatyana krasnovskaya and sergey nasebyan. and maria was our guest, and we fought around masha’s conviction that her mother would not survive any changes in her life. all issues you can find the triggers podcast on the website

of the first channel 1tv.ru. out of boredom i resurrected, resurrected, splashed in the zerbian, oh, splashed , and next to me was the priest in the lamp, and next to the priest in the lamp, next to the priest in the lamp, saved me from my sins, don’t betray, didn’t betray, don’t kill, didn’t kill, don’t if you wish, i’ll give you my last shirt, don’t steal it, but here i gave it. here i gave, here i gave, here i gave, in kind of a blunder, i’m more in the camps, in the camps, i live

like a monk, like a monk, without sin i’m like mary, without sin, i’m like mary, without sin , i am like maria, don’t betray father’s pants for nothing, don’t betray, don’t kill, killed, don’t be sorry, i’ll give you my last shirt, don’t steal, but here i gave, here i gave, here i gave, here i gave, in kind a mantoux , and before we had stagnation, there was stagnation, and i was small, single, single, there are many 10 commandments , there are many 10 commandments, there are many 10 commandments, but i’m not a father... a saint, don’t betray, didn’t betray, don’t kill, i didn’t kill, don’t be sorry, i’ll give you my last shirt, don’t steal it, i gave it here, i gave it here, i gave it here, i gave it here,

in kind i can. i, oh yes i, oh yes you, keep the nine commandments without lies , without lying, and the tenth, and the tenth is not a whim, and the tenth is not a whim, the tenth, do not kill, but my profession, do not betray, do not betray, do not kill, i didn’t kill, don’t regret it, i’ll give you the last ore, and here i gave, here i gave, here i gave, here i

gave, in kind of a blunder, hello, this is a podcast 20 years later, and its hosts are konstantin mikhailov and alexander anatolyevich . this year we are celebrating our anniversary. a wonderful songwriter, mikhail isaevich tanich. century. huge the number of hits is written: from a black cat around the corner to a white swan on the pond. we will talk about the black and white stripes in the life of mikhail tanich with people who knew him well, who were friends with him. we have him as a guest. favorite brainchild, group "lesopoval", ilya efimov - vocals, alexander sokolov, vocals, maxim porshin, vocals, veniamin smirnov, choreographer, konstantin radionov, musical director,

keyboards, vocals, hello guys, hello, i understand that you didn’t all personally know mikhail isaevich, but we have a person who was friends with him, personally , knew him... and knows a bunch of stories about mikhail tanivich, this is veniamin, quite right, with his listeners, mikhail isaevich spoke on behalf of different characters, for example, a volunteer rescuer with komarov’s hit performed by igor sklyar, or a young lady disappointed in love with the song “knots ”, this is of course alena apina, and i’ll tell the whole world a secret that i was most impressed by the fact that mikhail esaich could talk completely calmly. with any age, at any audience, even with schoolchildren, suddenly, in some nineties, when he was almost 70 years old, he suddenly switched gears, and he organized the lesaval group, which

was later his favorite brainchild, and of course, this one i’ll buy you a house a hit, it was in demand everywhere, in all restaurants, it... is still sung, of course, it’s a great song, this song was dedicated to the muse, lida nikolaevna kozlova, that’s all the best, all the best songs were dedicated, naturally, to the second half, wonderful, every word of benjamin we we are recording it because this is an eyewitness, thank you for the details, we are waiting for them, this is so , this is a line in the history of russian music, pop music, chansons, whatever you want, you can... call it, although it seems to me, the russian worldview, world carrier, yes, you describe your style yourself, these are soulful songs, soulful songs, but it seems to me that lisapoval has already developed a style, and somehow ilya and i, remember

, discussed that even before such meters of chanson, there was a logging site, which people immediately associate with precisely with the logger, such as it is, i would like to add that somehow on one of the... programs our style was described as yard romance. we have a recording of the first concert, when mikhail isaevich introduced lesa poval’s group. yes. this year i wrote a cycle of songs that was unexpected for me, a cycle of songs called songs of a former child , that is, the hero of these songs is a thief, in this case a pickpocket, an unexpected, of course, hero for songs, but the more unexpected, i think, the better , what kind of songs are these in character? this satirical songs, social songs, but in general, since the hero is a former thief, these are... songs of repentance, he sings in one

song, i swung a bow and a shovel and built this chaos with you, but i’m not guilty before you, for i already served everything i took , mikhail isaevich, 6 years, served time for nothing, unfairly, he was imprisoned under the fifty- eighth article, a political article, it was a denunciation, a denunciation. we were talking, and then someone told us, then by the way, what did he say ? well, he spoke positively about the equipment, since he reached berlin germany, he seemed to mention there, there was even such a company, it is still known to her, that their radios are also better there, then decades later... he met this

man who denounced him, so he asked him , almost on his knees, asked for forgiveness, but mikhail saevich did not forgive, he never forgave betrayal, betrayal, deception, he was a very principled person in this, principled, but his character, do you think, mikhail isavich was very worried before he came out and introduced its brainchild, after all. despite life experience, he was nervous because we were not allowed on stage or on radio or television, and then mikhail isaevich, i even remember these shots, when he was given the air and he said: so, please, dear producers, directors, move a little apart and give us a niche, the group will perform under the name

lispoval. and that’s roughly how we fought our way through, but at that time there was no concept of chanson as such, he was the head of the family, the creation of the lisaval group. this part of creativity, this romance and this layer, could be associated with mikhail isaich’s worst memories, however, as far as i understand, the creation of lis poval, his favorite brainchild, is still a bright spot in his life. the creation itself in general, existence, is such a kind of outlet, probably, well, this is also, you know, the most loved, the brainchild, they are the most, the most suffered, the most suffered, that is , how much, how much he lived his life, yes, he lost his blood, one might say , in order to then create this group, and it’s also was created, it’s like childbirth, too, everything was not born right away, like he came, the group was born in agony, in agony, yes, in agony , these poems were born, then lydia

nikolaevna generally encouraged mikhail saevich to make this material public , these poems, at first he felt, i suppose, well, this is how i feel, a little ashamed, in general , for this, well, imagine, and from being in prison, you have a lot of poems on this topic, it was a difficult decision, yes, but at the same time, and you are a creative and subtle person, at the same time soul, and you need to make it public, that is, what you were already sitting, as it were, is a big revelation. it’s ashamed, as if a little bit, yes, they don’t let you into some cities there , you have a lot of things closed, you’re already like some kind of decoy, but at the same time you have a lot of spiritual, subtle material that you felt , in general, to step over this and open up, this is a very big, this is a very big step, i and i think, in principle, this is all confirmed by the information that a woman still plays a big role in the life of a man in general, and that’s why lidia nikolaevna as far as i know, well, according to my information, for about 10 years, she just

constantly beat him at one point, beat him so that he would somehow start showing these songs to people, guide him, yes, yes, because i think she was proving him that people need these songs, that is, this, well, friendship too, friendship with the first soloist, we know that mikhailasavich had a very close friendship and cooperation with sergei korzhukov, cooperation, because sergei wrote music, yes, yes, yes . and yes, he sang, and it was the hardest, as i understand it, just the moment when sergei passed away, for mikhail isavich, naturally, hands, but what inspired him to decide to continue the logging project, when seryozha korzhukov passed away , letters began to come from all over the world, do not under any circumstances close this project,

logging, but from those people who sat, began to make half-joking, and maybe even serious threats, if you close the project, then you will have to give up your life, so to speak, but in fact, mikhailich, he could not finish this project, since he had just started talking and broadcasting about this, that's why it was organized so to speak, casting, a lot of guys came, yes they came, chose new soloists, and so the work continued. but we carried the memory of seryozha kazhukov at every concert, to this day too, and we always mention mikhail saenich, and seryozha krozhukov and all the guys who worked and left the group untimely, now i want

to hear your performance it doesn’t sound paradoxical, something that mikhail tanich wrote not for the povala forest, i mean... the legendary song: black cat, of course, there lived, yes, there was a black cat around the corner, and the whole house hated the cat , but the song is not at all about how people didn’t get along with the cat, they say it’s unlucky if a black cat

crosses the road, but for now it’s the other way around, only for a black cat the cat is unlucky, even with his cat a mile away, the cat had to meet, only the song is not at all about how the cat purred with the cat, they say, it will be unlucky if a black cat crosses the road, but for now, on the contrary, only the black cat is unlucky, this cat from ears to tail was blacker than himself... and the blackness, and the song, in in general about how offensive it is to be a black cat, they say it will be unlucky if a black cat

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are walking somewhere in your yard or next to your house, so i every event, what happens in my life, i try to take it calmly, but regarding the burden of popularity with which i came, i would not say that i had such a large burden of popularity, or somehow i, well, you’ve already arrived to a super popular group, i can tell you how it was in general, i have a lot of experience behind me, in general performances and stages, starting there from restaurants, karaoke, ending there with some municipal wonderful life school, and some competitions, well there was such a big television filming, and at first, to be honest, to my own shame, i could say, i ran away from chanson all my life, one might say, because in the restaurant i sang the swan like that, i also sang there 17 times in a row, per evening. that is, you were already ready and in the end

then lidya nikolaevna called, lisapoval was there, i think lisapoval was chanson again, then , but when i started learning songs, material, i didn’t even know, when i worked in a restaurant, that the white swan was a logging site, to my shame, i had , white swan de-minor, the backing track is written, here i am and the white swan de-minor, excellent, then, when i started learning songs, each song, as if you approach it, yes, you try... to invest your soul and soul as much as possible, so that it perform well, right? here at tanich's, like this poems and songs, that when you start learning a song, you start singing it, at some point there’s a lump in my throat, and i technically can’t reproduce it further until i rethink my life here, in this place, i rethink, i resemble, i’ll cry, maybe there’s something else, then i can sing this song, you understand, you understand that tanich’s songs are like programs that are very

useful for the human soul, what are your favorite lyrical songs in your repertoire, well, generally different, to be honest, at the same time i really liked the branch of mimosa, there are words there, and for us inveterate and experienced , we felt warm from the fact that there is love in all this world, nothing more, but for me , from time to time it’s different... i really like the song, the prayer, it’s also good , a letter from your mother, you get different songs in turn, you sing on stage, and you understand what the story is, we get completely different images, and the people who come to our concert, they kind of read it, like a performance, it turns out, it’s actually theatrical presentation, and today the lyrics will be performed by you, of course, that’s right, let’s listen to a lyrical song about love, in a podcast 20 years later performed by the group lesa poval

the song is called don’t slam the door. when it turns out that there is no love, and it becomes clear at a glance, leave, we’ll all say goodbye and there’s no

need. notify the world about this, don’t slam the door, don’t change anything, don’t slam the door, don’t explain anything, don’t slam the door, leave , not remembering evil, in the name of the love that was, is it easy for me to tell you, leave, when all life is in losses and losses, and everyone is right and no one is to blame, but our conversations are closed, don’t slam

the door, change nothing, don’t slam faith , don’t explain anything, and slam the door, leave, not remembering evil, in the name of the love that was , don’t slam the door, don’t wash anything, don’t slam the door, don’t explain anything... don’t explain, don’t slam the door, leave without remembering evil, in the name of the love that was, sasha,

mikhail isaevich tanich himself listened to you as a soloist , the story is old. it was exactly in 1995 when the tragedy happened with sergei korzhukov, some time passed and they began to choose a soloist, so i came to moscow completely arrogant and auditioned everywhere i could, so it dawned on me that i was licking the audition, my mother really loved licking, so i he came completely brazenly at the age of 15, thin, white, i had, that is, he was a youngster himself and sang i’ll buy you a house, they told me, well, that’s how it is, i have guys there, what are you going to do there anyway, that’s all , actually, that’s where it all ended, that’s what year we came together in the seventeenth, eighteenth, maxim, how did you end up in the logging camp? an acquaintance called and asked if i would like to audition for lispoval, i don’t know

why this happened, what were you doing at that time? i worked in so and by whom? in the railway service, i worked at night and decided that it was during this period, well, before that i served in a military ensemble, left there, worked in the metro, and decided that during this period i would finally improve my vocals, these classes there i will take a certain course, which i noted for myself, and somewhere in the middle it was all interrupted, an acquaintance called and said no do you want to audition, when i said that i wanted to try, we called veniaminn, he coordinated me, and he explained to me how to record songs, how to perform all this in order to show lida nikolaevna, at that moment, because it seemed to me that i could sing after the military ensemble, that’s all, in the military ensemble i was someone, well, of course, so

i recorded several demo recordings. sent it to vena, he said it won’t work, try it like this, try it like that, but i didn’t at all knew who he was then in the team, they just gave me, they just gave me contacts, they said, here is the man, yes, in the end, through the director, these videos reached lida nikolaevna, and about a week later i was already at my place there home in mordovia, the director called me and said that lid nikholaen wants to audition you, yeah, i sang to her, yeah, she, i remember right now. she shook her head like this, here, she says, no one needs your vocals , you don’t need to sing here, you sang with your voice, you had to with your soul, i had a white voice, and thought that recordings, i sleep so easily now, and at that time my age was 27, probably, or 26, then she said, i have all the soloists, uh-huh, i don’t know, she says,

why am i auditioning you, i’m full of people, that you came, yes, well, he says, if you want to sing for me, i’ll work with you, because i see in you something that i can work with, we’ll get it out of you, if you have the desire, i know , who is nikolaevna, naturally. we'll study, she says, if you want, you can come, that's how long this training lasted, the preparation for a year, a year, the guy didn’t know about me at all, no one except venya, and lidia nikolaevna then said that until you are completely ready, not brought to this level, like everyone in the group, i i won’t introduce you to the guys, only when i feel that i can show you around so that no one in the team has any questions. that here something needs to be tightened up, something else, something else, that day has come, that day has come, i come to the rehearsals, there he is, so what,

no, it was a concert, it was a concert in serpukhov, yes, we went in the winter, when there was no road, then i met everyone, the guys, how they perceived the young man then, it was immediately normal, normal, but what, what, because in our collectively. that is, like in any team, especially in a creative one, of course, each team has its own crown, what kind of crown does the lesupoval have, what do you think, the swan, but of course, of course, this is indisputable, i had no

doubt in this answer, well, then white swan on the pond, i will buy you a house by the pond in the moscow region and i will bring you to this own house, that pigeons with you with love, we will plant the lilac under the window, i will have pigeons, with you with love, we will plant the lilac, under the window, and white

a swan on a rod, shaking a fallen star, on that pond where i will take you, but for now there is no yard or garden so that... i could lead you by the hand, we’ll guess with you, i don’t need it myself, our five numbers , out of six, we’ll guess with you, yourself. i don’t need our five

numbers, out of six, and the white swan on the pond, swings a fallen star, on the rod where i will lead you, we have a chance , but the man, the drummer who casts the spell, controls the lot, told me the intention, if he is not a deceiver, the house will fall on the katoriyan, i am told intentionally,

if he the little one to whom we will fall, the house will fall, and the white left on the brood, shakes the fallen star, in the brood where i will lead you, and the first swan on the pond. sinks a fallen star, on the pond where i will lead you, on the pond where i will lead you, we are on the air again, this is a podcast 20 years later, and we are today

we are celebrating the centenary of mikhail tainich, our guest is the group of les povalo. let's ask konstantin, he so solemnly holds a long pause, which only a serious professional, like a music director, can withstand, tell me, absolute obedience in terms of music, because well, these are different instruments, different levels of training for each musician, you are a maestro, it’s easy to lead the guys ? anything can happen, anything can happen, but how it happens is interesting, some songs just need to really be told how yeah, that is, the acting should also be , somehow not sing, yes, but tell, less, less singing, more soul, after the passing of the poet mikhail tanich, are you doing something new? mikhailich created a great legacy and a lot of poems that have not yet been used, and an album is released every year. who writes the music? and the music, in

principle lispovala is such an interesting phenomenon in general, so to speak, the stage, and the russian one, yeah, that the poems are by mikhail tanich, yes, and the music of different composers, each the composer has his own taste, style, well, all our famous composers, there are dobronravov , alexander, igor slutsky, konstantin miin , ilya dukhovny, oscar feltsman, nikita bogoslovsky, such a list, such a list, yes, that’s it. it's like he's all different colors. today we talked about the black and white stripes in the life of the great songwriter, mikhail isaevich tanich, and we talked with the guys who are directly related to him, this is his favorite brainchild, the lisapoval group was on the podcast today 20 years later. and we thank the guys

for what. didn’t come, we remember, with warmth, with kindness, with great gratitude, mikhail isaevich and all his legacy that remained with us, it’s very cool, and now we will listen to the performance of the group les and poval, again a song that is not typical for them, a song from the movie big break, black and white. whoever comes to life, whoever guesses, different happiness befalls us, often simple, it seems absurd, black to white, white to black, often simple.

it doesn’t seem different, black, white, white, black, we choose we are chosen, like this often does not coincide, i follow you, i follow the shadow, i get used to the discrepancy, i follow you as the shadow, i get used to the discrepancy, such a difficult thing, sometimes far-sighted, sometimes short-sighted , often simple, seems absurd, black is white, white is black, often the simple seems absurd, black is white, white is black.