[000:00:00;00] history of cities, culture, architecture, this is a mandatory point of the program, this is mandatory , this is observation, this is understanding, yes, that there is something else, a very good term, tell me, svetlana, do you have such advice, that’s what we said , our life hacks, you tell people, write it all down, you recommend writing it all down so that you can read it sometimes, it’s mandatory, because we come back, what is it, a person has a neural connection, what is it, experiences, experience, yes, on which i rely on, and i periodically look, but how should i do it, and how i need to think, yes, but the most important thing that i recommend to everyone is to pause between feelings and actions, think, check

this box, right? so do i want to do it or do i not want to do it? can write down his emotion, this will be the very necessary pause and at the same time realize it, as you said, write it down , you know how to come, write it down, yes, you can do that, but at the moment when some situations occur , yes, for example, someone told you, without thinking you went into effect, flew out of yourself, and then you start doing some actions, and when you stop, what to say, who are rich people, these are truly rich people, these are happy people, this is the state inside each person, the state of how you feel, if i think, i drive, who offended me, who upset me, yes, i am all in these thoughts, in fears, i serve these fears and thoughts, all my energy goes there, point, realize the emotion, stop and not take action,

we put it first. yes, yes, 100%, realize what is happening to me now, what i want is to stop, that’s it slowing down allows you to feel, feelings arise in the body, yes, it’s sucking in the pit of the stomach, for example, yes, this is a feeling , this is a state in the body, a sensation, and a feeling of what kind of hunger, and a need to eat, so slowing down is a stop, yes a stop within yourself, so that ... this feeling, how do i feel now, and how do i feel next to this person , and i feel comfortable with him, or i step on my throat, or i give myself, everything, and when i give myself, i start to swallow it all , swallow, swallow, and the glass overflows, everything pours out into effect, great, then let's sum it up briefly, that is, the most important advice is not to act in a state of effect, that is

, try to analyze all your... emotions, sort them into shelves, determine where they come from, and most importantly, what they can lead to, yes , but through understanding the other, why this happened, because everything happens in interaction, this is point number zero, then the steps of transition from poverty to wealth, the first step is an information drink, observation, that is, we observe, are saturated with information, examples, each from we try them on ourselves, the second step, after the zero and the first - we don’t see any obstacles. we perceive every obstacle as a point of growth and continue to move forward and never give up; point number three , we record all our successes, do not allow ourselves to belittle them and do not allow others to belittle them. naturally, rely on your opinion, knowledge, vision of yourself, and not settle for less. and the last key point, yes, to cultivate a specialist in yourself, the task is to be the best in your field. and then you

will be in demand even then. you will have money. on this wonderful note, i propose to end our program, because the topic is truly immense, like psychology, like the human brain. thank you very much, svetlana, for opening up to us today and giving us the first three steps , both zero and some final point, how to come to wealth, how to go from that state, well, poverty and lack of contentment, in which you are now to the path to success and prosperity. thank you very much. thank you for inviting me. creative industry podcast in roman studio karmanov, mediaman, general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives and elena kiper, producer, legendary

songwriter, our guest today is the very interesting dmitry bigbaev, a former singer, theater director, and also an official. i’m not afraid of this word, a new arena, well, this is very very important , the artlatform project, and so on, and anita tsoi , the famous singer, warm, today sunny-warm, sunny-warm, and also the head of the faculty of creative industries, artist of russia , head of the donskoy department state technical university, head of department. the head of the department is still on the way to the faculty, but our viewers have already learned a lot just from the performance, but in fact, why are we here in this composition, why, because both anita and dmitry, they are directly related

to the wonderful genre of the musical, let's first, probably, about the necklace of russia, yes, a few words, then oh, well, there’s a lot, there ’s a solo 0.01, then black... january, i’d also like to talk about that somehow, too, here first about this grandiose action, well, in principle, it’s no secret that for many years our organization has been holding large festivals, but last year, thanks to the support of the presidential fund and social initiatives, we were able to hold our ninth awards ceremony for the festival at the festival names russia. the winners were 328 people, and we thought it would be good to once again unite them all together in one beautiful, interesting, creative story, in order to

please the audience, of course, with their wonderful creative achievements, we held a beautiful musical, it’s called the russian jewelry, where 328 of our winners each played. its role, this is a wonderful, wonderful musical about our vast, stunning homeland, about the multinational culture of our homeland, and moreover, the whole thing starts in an ordinary city, in a large city, where so many people with different nationalities live, so the whole festival is ethnographic , a beautiful canvas with music, dances, rituals, where almost each of our regions was able to imagine... themselves in all their beauty, that is, this is a great idea and we decided to continue it next year, although we already have a lot of musicals, since in general it all started in the city of rostov-on, and my music school has been working there for many years,

and when we collided with the question, well, okay, training is one thing, but how can kids get some kind of knowledge and skills in practice, and we started writing original musicals for them, and we have a very interesting topic: in musicals, because the mentors are together performing on the same stage with children is one thing study with a mentor, these are all well-deserved teachers, masters of their craft, and stage people who have already proven their dedication to their work and great skills with many years of experience, when they start going out with children, playing on the same stage, something amazing happens , because they worry themselves - like our... kids, well, kids , of course i said that’s cool, because the ages are different, from 3 years to 17 years, these are all the kids who participate in these musicals,

then their road goes to the festival, and they they perform there, they try to get their first experience - such a competitive creative struggle, they show all the best that they have learned, now we have come to the next stage, to a very big one, to the creation of such large musicals as the necklace of russia, well, a grandiose necklace russia, the presidential fund for cultural initiatives helped, it’s true, it helped, yes, the president helped, the president, no, it’s true, we are very grateful, because in reality we used to do everything independently on our own, looked for opportunities and so on, but now, especially in this difficult time, it is so important that there is support nearby, we definitely all come to the same opinion with our parents and teachers that it is better to let our children create, study, develop, move on, rather than wander around the yards and not understand what information do they absorb? it seems to me that this is a new genre, generally speaking, because i think that our viewers, they too, when they hear the word musical, they perceive that it is easy,

something in a good sense, they get confused, basically this is such a social musical here, i now i’ll throw our airy ball to dima, solo 01, black january, which means, well , solo 01 is the ministry of emergency situations, for example, these are musicals about uh guys, which means they are there, street kids, ultimately through certain vicissitudes there , they came to the conclusion that they, too... want to be heroes, save people, and black january is the young guard, this is an absolutely amazing story, this genre, how it develops in our country, or is this an ordinary story, we are just have never been seen in such numbers before; in fact, musical performances are always in our the country had, another question is that this division into musical and operetta, as elena correctly noted, this arose precisely during the soviet period, we always had wonderful musical films, these are funny guys, this is... night, another

the question is that it was on the theater stage that there was a very strict distinction, despite this , amazing works still appeared, in the linkom theater you can still see the play staged by zakharov, juno and avos, music by rybnikov, but what is it not a musical, an amazing work, and it is clear that the genre itself, it has grown so massively in the west due to, well, the outstanding, absolutely outstanding author, andrew lloyd weiber, who simply gave such a scale of musical thought, such a scale of creative presentation, to this genre , which of course, it was difficult to compete with him, of course musicals are very expensive projects, as a rule, but it is clear that they penetrate the mass audience, it is clear to me as a theater person that we are theatergoers, the loop-hook from the step is very important to us to the step, in the musical, in a big musical project, you can seriously declare about big ... important socially significant issues, problems, and

of course, if we talk, for example, about the project solo 01: fiery hearts, this is my work , including as a director and as an author, and of course , our respected colleagues from the ministry of emergency situations in patriotic education, because if we do not convey , as it seems to us, the correct meanings to the children in such a clear, accessible, musical form, song form, of course, they will not know them and... accept, as for black january, so it’s just our memory, well, we had a performance in the moscow concert hall, a total of 7,400 schoolchildren, some of them heard for the first time that there was such an oleg koshevoy, about how the guys from krasnodon accomplished a feat, how they really their personal goals, which now may prevail in the general understanding of young guys there, they put them in the background, because honor, homeland, this is... the feeling that your life is special and a lot depends on you , they

put it in the foreground, and of course, about we talked and talk about these heroes, it sounds in the music, and when at the last show three times the stadium stood up during the action, well, well, well, this is confirmation that after all, this form has an amazing effect, well, in general the musical lives and will live, and not only social, but different about love, thanks to the cultural initiatives fund , which supports all this, and we are happy to try and do it well and with high quality, and so that our audience is happy in any genre that we undertake , here's a handsome guy, and here’s how such a transformation happened, from pert katya, take that here it is in front of us, yes, that is, here it is, of course, in fact, it seems to me that the audience is wondering, what kind of path is this laid to such a thing ? uh, they are involved in my transformation like no one else, you and i met when

i was just a theater actor and you will be surprised, but i have this project, it became my first directorial experience, and this is, well, surprising, but this project and your participation in my destiny, ultimately gave me the opportunity to feel like a director, to work with talented artists, young artists, what kind of artists we have turned out to be, yes, that is, this is a forehead, and the star of mkhat chekhov for a minute. this is the winner of the adult voice dasha antonyuk, it was you who found them, and we worked with them, it’s happiness , they gave such artists, it’s only a musical performance that can do this, when the singers and actors are all together, that’s why what you’re doing musicals with children, this reveals their abilities to the maximum, because in a musical you need to be able to do everything, including dancing, acting and singing, in general, anita, in fact, when we talked to you, not so long ago, i was surprised to discover that in addition to the fact that you are a wonderful singer, whom everyone knows very well, a people’s

artist, and so on, uh, you’re also a public figure and person , who is engaged in education, not in the sense of teaching singing, but in the sense of actually teaching, everything that is included in this genre in general, creative, in general, this is surprising, but it turns out that with each project you have added responsibility, now - you said 326, 328 - you are now generally speaking, you bear a responsibility, well, a creative one, of course a creative one. mentoring, yes, how to make sure that these 328 names are not lost in the end, that’s what’s next, well, firstly, you need , of course, to constantly come up with new projects, you need to promote them, move them and keep up with the times, for example, we are now talking about mentoring, now this is one of the most important interesting topics, before

we were just involved in mentoring, we came up with such interesting content, yes, when teachers, educators together with children perform on the same stage and share experiences with each other right here. and now, but now we have moved on, we are now working on a very interesting project, an inclusive creative laboratory , in which a group of children with disabilities will be created, there will also be children from our music school and teachers, so everyone will study together in one space everything that is necessary for the stage, speech production, vocals, musical instruments and so on. and in order to get the result and see how we are this experiment will take place, we decided to create a musical on the same stage together with teachers, our children from our music school, this group of children with disabilities, in order to show that for creativity, boundaries have

no limits at all, we decided to stage this musical on thousand-man, to a large beautiful hall, you immediately use large forms, that is, you seem to do it, i myself direct my big shows, i already have such gigantism, it is present in something, but for children it is an incredibly interesting experience, plus, despite on the fact that we are also making this musical, we decided to shoot now, we are just on the threshold of everything that we have to do, we decided to shoot a film in parallel, a film about overcoming, about how these kids come to us and start studying with everyone together, and what their result will be, and how they will... feel in the future , the most interesting thing, in general, is that we have our own music school, and, accordingly, some opportunities for education, training, but we realized that children grow up, so we have them we bring it to a certain point, and then, they say, where should we go next

, and we spent 2 years at a technical university, growing up under the department of media communications, in order to finally separate into our own department this year, many thanks to our to the rector, who... it also seems to me that technicians do not understand exactly how necessary this is, it is necessary, but at the same time , for example, they have it technologies that they teach their students, and this should not bypass us at all, so like all creative industries and all collaborations today, which... a merger takes place within, even the flow of one from the other, yes, it must necessarily pass through new it technologies directly, this is how new authored content is born, very interesting, which will help all our students in the future, plus acquire a profession, learn how to earn money

money, to understand that today in the market they can become players of their own, and manage their own lives, their own destiny, you have touched on such an important topic now, because the creative industry is, as it were, a fantasy, idea, and then, yes, we need people who transform and materialize it, that is, technical personnel, very often creators do not have a connection with these technical personnel who can implement it, and the fact that such faculties and departments grow on the basis of technical, i recently visited the plekhan academy and a faculty of creative industries was also opened there, because there is a creative economy, and at the same time there is transformation. ideas and creativity into business, into results, into results that bring new means, new movements, and considerable funds, yes, and considerable, well, south korea, which anita and i, in general, appreciate for this, some are generally

positive examples, yes, that’s exactly it, we talked with one science fiction writer, he said, that he has one universe, which, by the way, was invented by lukyanenko in his century , in which there is no oil and gas, that’s what people actually have to do, this happened in south korea, and there the creative economy took off, well, that is, people needed something, they realized that in fact they were money in creative people, and there everything that is connected with creativity is encouraged, in principle it gives its results, in fact, i started talking about the fact that i myself am the director of the producers of my shows, these shows, thank god in are the best in the country, we received a lot of awards, for them not from the point of view of exactly what happened on the stage directly, but precisely for new technical achievements on the stage, that is, we are always coming up with some kind of innovation, but they are born, for example, new ideas technical order from fantasy, creative

fantasy, that is, you want, for example, to immerse your viewer in a certain environment, and you begin to create, you come to a person who has the necessary tool, skill, technique and tell him what you want, he can do it on you, he says, yes not yet in the world, why do you need this at all, and then in the process it turns out that we literally just passed a new program, and there we made a new technological discovery that was patented... wonderful, it’s just that no one had thought of doing it before, and we are very happy and glad, because when he starts to come up with an idea, some kind of creative, interesting, then the technical forces are pulled up, but we, relying on their capabilities, begin to come up with much more, this is what i want to teach students, for example, our departments, so that they look at it more broadly, not only as the ability to master their vocals, for example, or acting and their body, yes, in choreographic art, but so that they look at it much more broadly, that they can

become creators of their own content, at no one not similar, and maybe even patent new technologies, and i would continue my world, because ultimately, by creating our own content, fantasy, positive, we thus saturate everything with creativity and immerse a large audience in it, which starts with it to live with us, this is a big role, very... no, let's, no, let's still, i just caught myself thinking, when i watched black january, when i cried there for the fifth time, in general, i i thought, well, this is the strongest, strongest emotion i’m experiencing now, but i i’m here in the hall, in a new arena in this case, and i have such happiness to be there, yes, i see, i came, i look, i experience these emotions, but we actually have a huge country, when will all this reach the viewer . broad, this is what you do, do you see these points yourself or not? the first thing is, of course, you can broadcast any cultural product

, this is also a separate form of art, how to convey to those who are not in the hall all these emotions that are here now, and there may even be a little more color there, because you can show a close-up of the main character with a tear rolling down her cheek, this also has an impact on those who watch, and the second segment, well, probably also important, what anita is talking about is involving people, because you can’t just force people by example grow up, they must be involved in the process, within the process, there they are already learning, developing and so on, something that is not very much now and something that is now a little lacking, it seems to me that it makes sense to pay attention to this, this is proper management , i don’t like the word manager, because a manager is a must, some kind of profit is a must, there is nothing wrong with that, you can and should earn money, but still, management is broader, it is sometimes an absolutely selfless sacrifice of everything that you have you have, and health and strength, time, in general , with the management in the field of culture

, everything is not very correct yet, especially in the regions, if moscow, represented by the government, has accepted responsibility, it generates as much as possible through its various departments, processes , and we see all this, then in the regions, of course, the agenda is different, i really want those amazing specialists who arise thanks to projects like onita’s, so that they come in handy locally and feel there that their potential will be revealed, this is the most important thing , that is, to provide the basis for everything to be realized, by the way, if we are talking about this now, yes, uh, good story, we will now celebrate next year, or rather this year, the tenth anniversary of our festival in russia, and we thought, we usually spend on different cities, usually up to 30 cities in russia, where we go, we look at the teams, we look at the children. and we select the best, and already bring them to the semi-finals and finals, this year we discovered a unique opportunity for ourselves, there are, yes, again

a foreign word, sorry, clusters, they are called, if i remember correctly, russia is my history, they were opened in the twenties cities, our vast, stunning space with magnificent concert venues, with amazing technical equipment, that is, we have now decided our ten years to hold these qualifying rounds there, why? we go out, well, of course, children perform, children fight for the title of first, best, but in parallel with this , they have their own ethnographic tourism, they study, firstly, the region in which they are located, plus, they are exploring new technological possibilities , that is, can you imagine, our kids come, go to... for example, with a video screen space, they put a leg, and from there butterflies fly out, or some flowers, yes, that is it all starts to work completely

differently, they find themselves in some interesting fairy tale, in a certain world. they understand that there is actually a lot of this world, you just need to be able to accurately place the rap points to get there, that is, it seems to me that this is a wonderful plus, it’s also in education, so i don’t like just loud words about patriotism, that is, when they are done everything is exaggerated or they say, there’s a tsoi, let’s write a patriotic song, that doesn’t work for me, for me patriotism is a little different, it’s calmer, it’s more warm, it’s more familiar, when, for example, an older brother, who studies there at our university, takes his little sister , who studies at our music school, by the hand, they go on stage together, they sing together to their parents who are sitting in the hall, and they they root for them, this is the first, the most important thing in the word patriotism, connection above all, love, such genuine, real love for your family, loved ones, for your land, for your home,

for the stage on which you stand, in kindergarten, which school you go to, the school you attend. yes, this is where it all starts, and when our children, we are simply infected with this project, when they will come to these regions and see how wonderful our country really is and there are such wonderful places, not only in the center, in moscow or st. petersburg, i think that they have pride in their country, whether you like it or not , it will appear and grow on its own, because they are really involved in this, they are not in the center, somewhere there, they are on... here for yourself today i opened it, well, for me you, since we never knew each other, somehow we haven’t encountered it, but what you’re saying is such a missionary story in general, what you’re doing, and by the way, i ’m parrying about the novel, that means , about how it’s going to go big,

that is, in fact, if this is made a trend and if trends. a creative economy based on great meanings, this is completely different and it should be exciting, because it’s really exciting, because it can’t help but be exciting, because what you’re doing, dmitry, you just seem like it’s something pro-state , most in fact, you say, patriotism, this is through that very impact content , this is through joining those heroes whom you bring out, involve in these processes, the rest follow them, on the air of the creative industry, a podcast that elena kiper and i will introduce , and roman karmanov, our guests are dmitry bigbaev, lioni tsoi, but you know what the question is, people are watching us now and saying, well, smart, beautiful people, in general, they seem to be talented, they are sitting, in general, about beautiful sublime things and even in general with

apparently they reason about benefits, but we, in general , look at all this and think, how can we get involved in it in general? yeah, for this holiday and in general, how to get there, how to get there, this is the most important thing, in fact, here we, for example, don’t wait with our team for people to come to us, we go ourselves, that is, we have been imprisoned for several years already began to collect big data on all creative groups, teachers, interesting people and so on, throughout our whole russia, today, i can boast a little, even at the ministry of culture we don’t have the same data as we have, competitions, we make sure to notify everyone, we personally sit down, cool down and go, so wait, you have a database of whom, what kind of people are these, these are all cultural centers, all theaters where our audience is involved , this is childhood, youth, everything, everything, everything on the territory of russia and whoever wants, they

always take part with great pleasure when you dress up this fantastic machine of yours, these are suppliers of talented personnel, because this is the first filter through which we will put on your own places and let’s be honest in order to find a truly talented person, not just a talented person, but a ready-made, efficient person who wants to serve the stage, let’s assume, yes, we have to try, we have to dig through very, very many thousands of people, it’s true, sometimes it happens like that, man crazy... he comes out and we see that we have real talent in front of us, he is not afraid of the stage, he behaves amazingly, he recites amazingly, he sings amazingly at his age, he just holds all the jury members like that, sorry , we are simply delighted, but it turns out, since this is given to him by nature, he doesn’t even want

to push himself even a little bit and learn something more than what he has today. and we also meet with this, and when we talk with the parents, the parents say, yes, we would love to, but he doesn’t want to, this happens, so this is the most painstaking work today, for example, i am grateful to everyone who took part in necklace of russia, because these are very talented, good children, and i think that they can make well, we will find at least one two three who want to really truly move on, but the stage is not an easy job, it is very hard, it is very difficult, it will be wonderful, but we do not forget about those who are nearby, because that there are kids who really really want, but not everyone, to be great artists, well, that’s right , here we are looking at you, i think you shouldn’t have been... if you hadn’t been an artist before this, you probably would have i didn’t find out how to do all this as an insider, now i don’t we need to explain how to properly hang wires behind the stage, i know everything perfectly well, you understand, but we just

came up with a story for these kids, because again , you can come to our departments to learn and work inside our entire big beautiful system, you can you can master management, you can master pr, gr, you can master whatever you want, but you don’t have to work because not everyone is ready to go on stage, not everyone has such a gift, the most important thing is that, generally speaking, there is something that is not in a technical university this one appeared specialty, this means that the guys there will have both hemispheres working, as you know, yes, because one is responsible for creativity, the other for technology, that’s how a harmonious nation arises if both are harmoniously present in general, well, really a very important question about those who, yes, there are geniuses, there are... but in general there are much more of us, those who love to sing, as one of my friends says, you sing well loudly, so those who like to sing loudly, they are actually

located all over the country, i told our rector when he made me an offer, that is, not to get married, to go to his university from our music school, i’m telling you, listen , why do you need us there, you only have technicians there, i don’t know, you are engaged in agriculture, you are involved in some kind of oil industry, that has nothing to do with it, and he says, you know, he must tell you honestly, not all of us have excellent students, we have c and d students, but they all sing and dance well, someone should honor defend the university, as they like solo 01, actually they say this project, listen, that is, they made our song and the musical their unspoken anthem, in fact, well, they are harsh people, you know, here they are, well, in fact, there is such a stable expression song, somewhere around you in your life, but we are with the song, if we wake up and move on in life, everything will really be different, the main thing is that the songs are good

, and here it seems to me that we have a lot of people who sing really very well, but there aren’t very many artists, so try them look, and these are two different talents, to be a wonderful artist and build a career for yourself. because to build a career for yourself, the tesovs, yes, they don’t always have a voice, they don’t always have one, but there is something more that will later make you remember for centuries, this, it seems to me, is the best confirmation that it was not in vain that we worked , this is the participation of our children, in the sense of large participants who gathered them in different cities, to find these children who not only sing well, but who have something more that they cannot tell their inner world to share with it this is it it’s very difficult and it’s really a lot of work and a pleasure. watch your own, when your child appears, whom you grew, grew, grew, here he is in the leading role, already elena kiper is participating in the project , so i am also involved in musicals, but

there is still something to improve this genre, of course, because, well, there is also, well, the need to improve this genre, i have been to other countries several times , watched musicals, the lion king, belliot, which has been developed over decades, when the director stages it completely, well, not like in the theater, yes, not like a theater director staging a play, but when it is synchronized, when it has a rhythmic school, yes, such questions arise here, very often, i don’t want to say anything, because i myself am faced with producing. there is no industry itself, as you correctly noted, it just needs a little more time, and of course, any

industry means money too, that is, any scientific breakthrough, before that there is a huge amount of work and money that this scientific breakthrough provides, i i guess, that now everything is going quite well for us, and as far as talent is concerned, russia. well, being able to invent, invent, create, it is important that the industry is properly organized, so that these talented people here feel that they are needed and have the opportunity to be realized, yes there should be works of art filled with technological discoveries and other things, but at the same time the social mission of art, its we can’t turn it off, we shouldn’t put everything on the realities of commerce, so that it ’s wow for a lot of money, every person should have the right to access the best works of art, the best, regardless of how much he receives, not everyone has the opportunity to buy

a ticket to go see something, here we need a balance and we , it seems to me, are doing everything right, well , what do you think, now is the window of opportunity, after all, an able-bodied person as you say, he can pass if he wants someone to support him all the time, lead him by the hand, pick him up and drag him along, and so, if you motivate him, then really. -that is, that is, they can get to you, they can get to dmitry, they can get to the roma, they can, if they really want to, but there is such social growth, and yes, there is no need to go through this, in fact, it really is just like that, at the click of a button, if a person is fiery, passionate, yes, he wants it, he has it, talent and ability to do this, work hard, he will get here, you just need to look.

this is to look for where to find, we must give opportunities , well, how can i say, everyone here has seen a lot of things and observed different stages of our media market and show business and not always the most worthy rose to the top due to different reasons, but if we now organize the right opportunities for talented people in any, in any incarnation of the creative industries, from artist to designer, inventor, inventor, whatever, then something will change, if we are honest. give people opportunities and faith that in the future they will be realized, everything will be fine for them, then everything will go, but tell me, where is the entrance, where is that door, where to enter, there are social networks, yeah, for example, i always answer in pm and everywhere, that is, please write, i will quickly redirect you to where it is necessary, absolutely so, no questions asked, if you want, come to the university to study, now departments of creative industries are also opening all over the country, that is, the main thing is to choose the university, those teachers with whom you would like to study, and even that direction .

that’s all, that is, in fact, there are ways, you just need to be able to tear the soft spot from the soft spot, golden words, dear friends, well, as a person who is involved in just these projects, i can say that a person is creative if he really wants it, if he indeed, if he wants, he will now easily find himself a project in which he can get involved and take part at the federal level, at the local level. for this there really are all the necessary elevators, the so-called, yes, there is the internet, there are social networks, in order to search, now not only children are watching, yes, well, their parents, grandparents, grandparents - this is a big engine for many, yes, uh, you need it, you just need to want it, a lot of elevators have been created, dear friends, watch the creative industry podcast, learn about

elevators, yes, roman karmanov will tell you about it, we had wonderful guests dmitry bigbaev and anita tsoi today, in general, look for anita separately, you will also find her with dima, and you will understand where that door is, and write, look podcast creative industry, goodbye, hello, dear friends, this is the podcast life of the wonderful, i am with you, alexey varlamov, my guest is the famous tv presenter journalist, fyokla tolstaya, and we will talk about the wonderful scientist, slavist, and academician, nikita ilch tolstoy, and this is thekla’s father, and thekla and i are on i can say that we have known each other for a long time and have been in the opposite situation many times, when thekla asked questions, and i answered, here we are today... and i

’m very interested in what kind of conversation we’ll have, especially since the topic is very expensive, it’s very important to nikita ilyach turns 100 years old this year, so we’ll talk about him as your father, as a wonderful scientist, as a person who once made an amazing impression on me, as on many students of the faculty of philology of moscow state university, because he was completely different, he was unlike anyone else his lectures were amazing, and although i’ll be honest, i wasn’t very interested in slavic philology, for some reason, but he himself, the appearance of this tall, stately man, such a real russian nobleman. the count with a long beard, his speech, his movement, his gestures, it was something completely incredible, what are your memories of your father? i must tell our viewers that my father has been gone for more than a quarter of a century, unfortunately, he was born in 1996, but

we are really celebrating twenty centenary of his birth, i have, of course, very , very warm, homely memories, and when you say that he was not like others, then the child, the daughter does not, does not understand and does not realize, but i i’ve always been a daddy’s girl, and maybe i’ll say something completely different, about philology , we’ll talk about serious things later, it seems to me that what i do, work on television, the fact that i studied at a theater university, then, that i’m somehow emotional, maybe, hopefully, somehow artistically, that’s all from dad, because... dad, despite all his learning, doctor of science, glasses , books, knowledge, beard, yes, he was a very cheerful person and very, just so artistic, he sang some stupid songs all the time

, he wrote poems, he made jokes, and he, by the way, acted in films, yes, once, yes, yes, yes, he acted in films several times, once he and my mother were riding on the subway to work, that’s not where i know, from trityakovskoe, to leninsky prospekt, i caught him - just in the subway , the assistant director because of his big beard. oh, please tell me, do you have such a beard, and you don’t want to act in films or something? dad, who means he goes to some meeting of the presidium of the academy of sciences or something like that, he says: well , what do you want, what is the actual proposal? but we are looking for extras for the film - sergei fetovich bondarchuk, boris godunov, well, okay, maybe that means dad is scared too. was delighted, canceled all his academic affairs for several days and stood as an extra in the film boris godunov on the coronation scene, which was filmed in zagorsk at the time in trinity sergeev, although the action essentially takes place, of course, in the assumption cathedral of the moscow

kremlin, so he disappeared there for several days, and when he said that if they called him from work or something like that, he said: you don’t say that i’m filming, you say that i’m very very for it. this was terribly interesting to him and he didn’t tell anyone there on the set either that he was an academician too, no, he didn’t know, the only thing was that dad it was also the end of the eighties, people who they know the church service well and in general there was not much behavior like in church, but my dad was a very church-going person, he served in the church as a child and in general he knew everything brilliantly about the service, so he was also very proud: that he gave a little hint there to the assistants, the second director, that how to behave, how to act, and so on, well, this is true, by the way, we studied, i studied in the soviet years in the early eighties, after all, it’s not that the church was completely

banned , but somehow this is clearly not was welcomed there in the university, in the student environment, he walked when it was the bright week of easter , he congratulated everyone, christ has risen, and he did not flaunt his religiosity, of course, but he never hid it, i must say that, uh, a little of him students somehow connected their lives, some simply became a priest, some, well, artemy vladimirov, i know, yes, some remained in philology or in science, but in a sphere close to the church, like this that i remember very well how my dad and i went to church, he took me, we, i wanted to say, lived, but we also live, continue to live on the ordynka, and this is just such a trans-moscow, such a corner of moscow, where several more remained. moreover, several churches were open, i remember, i went during holy week, to the church of all who sorrow, joy of all who mourn, and he stood there, nikita ilyevich was there, and we went, this was the year eight and four, easter was such his favorite holiday, he always took me, but i

wanted to say something that was still preserved, somehow he, he supported it, such the old moscow tradition is that you go to... the church on easter , for the religious procession itself, for the beginning of the service, then we were there for some time, well, maybe not for long, because i was still a girl, then you you return home and break your fast after fasting, then you go to some other church, then and then you go to visit, one, the other, or guests came to us, and now it’s such a full night, full on the one hand of what - some festive campaigns, and festive ones, also breaking the fast, friends. and so on, etc., but i was very shocked by this story with the cinema, because i was just now preparing there, i read some materials about nikita ilich, a lot of what has been written about cinema is not said anywhere, but since what you inherited, you i also filmed, i started from this, that i

inherited this kind of artistic beginning and craving for it from my dad, and i acted as a child, i was also caught just by my dad’s beard, and i was like that at school some photographer came and said, oh yes girl, come here, and my and i a classmate put us on the stairs, i remember, i’m shaggy, i’ve always walked shaggy ever since, and we ended up on the cover of a magazine, counselor, then a second time... some people from the gorky children’s film studio again, that means go see - come on, girls, here we are, we sent you and me to the file cabinet of this children's room at the gorkova studio and then i starred in several films and dad somehow, well, that is, you starred before dad, i starred before dad, and apparently mine means children's fame didn't give peace, but he also said that we need to act in film, uh, you were filming and i will act in film, and i had an interesting story with this gorkovo studio, also connected with fat people, that

i already had several films under my belt in my life there i know 13-14 years old, at that moment our famous great director gerasimov was filming the film leo tolstoy, this is one of his later films, and he plays tolstoy in it, and his wife tomara makarova plays sofya andreevna, and they called me to audition, so i'm probably already a teenager, yes, i'm about 13, and i they call me for... auditions, i have to play uh , young, that means she’s still a girl, the daughter of lvaniy nikolaevich, the younger alexandra lvovna, fat, i remember that i was already interested in the history of cinema by that time, i understood who gerasimov was, i understood who makarova was, i’m coming at the gorkovy studio, such old high chairs, and i sit down and i see that next to me they are making up makarova, i mean i’m trembling a little, but for some reason they’re tricking me there, i don’t know what they are? the roadies come here or something like that and

the auditions begin; they have photographs and they are all they say they say, my god, how similar, how similar, well, how did you find it like that, they say to the assistants, well, how similar, and my mother and i, i was still with my mother, so it’s like we’re underage, we shrug our shoulders, there, well it seems, yes, well, you kind of understand that there’s one family somehow, of course, alexandra lvovna is fat, she means my great-grandfather’s sister, but still like some kind of tolstoy blood, but they didn’t understand that.. .they call a person from the same family, so, but then events developed funny, that when it turned out that i was fat, everything, that means somehow they became even more interesting, then uh, then it turned out that my uncle , wonderful, then, as i know, maybe this is not true, but that’s what they told me, wonderful ilya vladimirov, read, wait, uncle ilyusha, i wrote a rather devastating review of the script, gerasimova, in general, i didn’t play alexandra lvov, but somehow they didn’t or yes, well, no, maybe i just played poorly at

the audition, the same thing happens, well, now it’s still a little let's turn to history, yes, come on, let's figure it out, so nikita ilyich tolstoy, your father, yes, that's what he has something to do with lev nikolaevich, because with fat people it is very difficult to figure out who is who, and lev nikolaevich is the most large father in russian literature, in such great russian literature, to understand who is like fat, so what kind of fat are you? as my second cousin petya tolstoy says, you know leo tolstoy, so to speak, i mean beards, then watch your hands. our line, the fat russians now, comes from there aren’t many fat people in russia at all, it comes from the second son of lev nikolaevich and sofia andreevna, from ilya lvovich tolstoy. yes. ilya lvovich got married before his other children. the first granddaughter of lev nikolaevch was just a daughter, sofia nikolaevna filosofova, and then they had

a daughter, then four sons, and then another girl and a boy, also quite a large family, well, in general, in those days it was not like that a rarity, all four boys, as it happened, ended up in military schools, in cadet corps, as it was called then, my grandfather studied in the naval cadet corps in st. petersburg, and there are wonderful photographs of his cadets: and even even before the revolution, as a young midshipman, he sailed on the aurora, it was a fairly modern ship, where he did his internship , probably with sailors it’s somehow, that is , he sailed, i’m also saying it wrong, he went on the aurora, that’s some kind of his service , first as a student, then he continued the real one, here is another who studied in moscow in the cadet corps, the eldest of these, of these four , took part in the first ... world war, and then, when the civil war begins,

all four brothers find themselves in white army, my grandfather, it turns out that we don’t have... mention of him, but we know that he took part in this siberian ice campaign, there was another ice campaign, that’s when they, when they are 2,000 km, if i don’t i’m mistaken, it was winter, and there is a story that he was taken out to be shot several times, once he escaped execution, as my father told me that when he was captured, they simply put him up against the wall, and then he probably thought that they were the reds , he believes that the reds, why , who? another may now deprive him of it altogether life, then he began, as he should, well, just like before his death, he began to say everything that he thinks about the reds and cover them with a good, good naval obscenity, then, then, these, who somehow began to think, or maybe maybe he is, after all, he is not a communist, in general, by some miracle my grandfather managed to survive, although the migrant newspapers

already wrote that he was shot, then there was news that he died of typhoid. but still, on the last ambulance train , he is taken unconscious to china, and somehow , through the chita, he ends up somewhere there in china in harbin, then in shanghai and then he begins to find out where his family is, and somehow, i still don’t understand how they figured it out, he finds out that his family is in europe in immigration, here we need to pause , i know, i tell it all like a movie. and for me this is really a movie, and to be honest, i want to make a documentary movie, so my three-year-old brother, volodya tolstoy, the grandson of another of the brothers i ’m talking about now, we want to make a movie about the history of our grandfathers and about my father , means, the other three grandchildren of tolstoy, mikhail ilyich, andrei ilvich and vladimir ilyich, turn out to be moving in a southerly direction and, unfortunately,

one brother dies from typhus, and the other brother is already on... the perekop, which, which, that isthmus that connects crimea with the mainland, when the reds advance, he stands up at full height above the trench, and simply from some revolver or something begins to point-blank shoot a chain of reds, which in general was suicide, it turns out to be such madness, yes yes he gets a bullet in the stomach and dies, in my opinion, just almost in the arms of his brother and falls and now , almost 100 years later, historians, maybe not exactly right to the exact place of his storage, but the cemetery where those who died in the twentieth year in that battle were buried , and there is now a cross there, it is written that count andrei lichtalstoy died there during the civil

war, vladimir luc manages to escape, he boards a ship, and through... turkey, through gallipoli, through this gallipoli camp, he ends up in serbia in kingdom of serbs, croats, slovenes in migration and, of course, this is a huge success, because i imagine that they would have stayed in serbia, they would not have stayed in serbia, they would have gone further to the west, but i very much doubt that my father would have done like this, not even that he would have become an academician, he would have simply done as much as he managed to do, if he had ended up in an american ... university or or in a french one, that is , russia gave him fate, but of course, here he is him, his father, that is, that is, my grandfather and his brother, of course, could no longer, maybe it’s hard to judge, i’ve never seen them, they probably couldn’t fully realize themselves, because these 25 years in

exile have been a very hard life and somehow, well, of course, they dreamed of returning, they have returned to them, soon they will yes, someone was fulfilled, that is, the main part of their life had already passed, although they were still very happy in russia, but my father, who came, he was 22, of course, he became successful, and this is a great happiness, this is a great, great luck, thank you very much, dear thekla, for this wonderful conversation, this there was a podcast about the life of the wonderful, and i am with you, alexey varlamov, my guest was thekla, a fat, famous russian... journalist, tv presenter and daughter of nikita ilyecha tolstov, about whom we talked so wonderfully today, thank you,

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