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[000:00:00;00] this will not necessarily lead to a global nuclear war, it seems to me that this is a very fundamental misconception , an extremely fundamental misconception, thank you, at the program we repeatedly talked about the possibility of using nuclear weapons, and at one time there were some disputes between the general and me about this, i was less sure about the tactical application. will definitely lead to a total nuclear war, but when we talked about this, it was a period of unpleasant events near kharkov, when there was less confidence that conventional russian non-nuclear forces will be able to cope with the situation, now in such conversations from the russian country, even such disputes from the russian side, i do not see
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not only... the need, i do not see signs that such disputes are taking place, such conversations have begun, western country, frankly speaking, there is no real threat that russia will launch an all-out offensive against the west, it seems, although the russian armed forces are very successfully coping with their tasks, so far these tasks are basically different... i haven’t heard from anyone , from competent western military observers that they believe that russia is preparing a serious, massive attack on the west, on nato. so the question arises, why such conversations, why now? of course, i can’t be sure, but i have
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an assumption that if it fails, it will be ukrainian. and if attempts to undermine internal stability in russia fail, nato has a choice, the choice to try to negotiate, find some formula acceptable to both sides, or say that no, we will stand our ground, and if the ukrainian offensive does not it turns out, let's explore all the others. this option, of course, exists, it is not excluded, but i think that this is madness , i absolutely do, and you think that in the west they are not capable of madness, you know, i still have there, well, not everyone is idiots, well not everyone is reckless, so to speak, who are ready, so to speak, to lay down millions of lives, including
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probably their own, in order, so to speak, to defeat russia? no, i, because i repeat once again, no limited ones, all this will end, everything is universal, nightmares. general, thank you, dmitry , the last word, i agree with you, you started this program by talking about the fact that the west is really considering the possibility of first deploying advisers, yes, that is, the vietnamization of the ukrainian conflict, we start by placing a large number of advisers inside ukraine , then more. then also as a result of the actual failure of the ukrainian offensive as a result of the understanding that it is impossible to defeat russia on the battlefield as it is now, so the scenario is being considered escalation as one of them, this does not mean that it is the most likely , but it is one of them, and if this is an escalation scenario, then we must prepare for escalation, including a war between russia and nato, here’s a tip about this, i completely agree, i i agree with the general
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that not everyone in the west is crazy. i agree that especially if you are talking about the military command, their thinking is very close to yours, the dangers of nuclear war, but we talked about the political chaos in the united states, and with that in mind, my point is, hope for the best, don't panic, don't exaggerate, but understand that you need to be prepared for the most unusual options. this is precisely why you need to be prepared so that these options do not ultimately take place. it was
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a great game, we'll see you on the air tomorrow. horror, darkness, mole panicked screams, these are not staged shots, the bullets tracing are real, they killed precisely at the moment when these events were filmed, this is what the beginning of the new most terrible war in russia, civil, could look like, when their own people kill their own fathers, children. october 3, 1993. who then provoked the murderous fire here? at the television center. and why did they stage a bloody massacre in the capital of russia, which almost turned into
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a nationwide fire? what happened to the instigators, were they punished? these questions will be answered in our film by the participants in the october events themselves. tracer bullets rush through the air like crazed bees and sting, sting everyone, and there is no escape from this evil swarm, people hide wherever they can, behind the wheels of trucks, behind concrete flower beds, behind the bodies of the dead. it was immediately obvious that many of them were dead, killed, many were wounded, crawling, running away, there, they were limping, they were basically wiping themselves with blood, in general, in short, it was an absolutely terrible picture. someone huddled to the ground, clasping his head in his hands; those who try to escape receive machine-gun fire in their backs, groans,
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requests for help, including in foreign languages. mortally wounded correspondent of the moscow bureau of the german television company ard-1, rory peck. and ivan skopan, cameraman of the french television company tf1, now you are seeing the last footage that he shot before vastanka’s death. ivan was wounded eight times and died 5 october in paris. the red lights on the camera operators' cameras were perfect targets. doctors who tried to help the wounded were also killed. next to me was a young guy in a white coat, an orderly. he stood up to help and was immediately shot, he fell next to me, dead. there are hundreds of people rushing about in the square, both militants and ordinary onlookers, ordinary people, and many corpses. what led to
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the october tragedy. the reforms announced by russia's first popularly elected president, boris yeltsin, are not bringing quick results. their only mistake is very the hard part is that they didn’t share with the people every week what we were doing, who was stopping us, everything had to be explained to grandma mota on tv, but they didn’t have time for this, yeltsin couldn’t explain it clearly. in the capital and large industrial centers, the position of the president remains strong, but in the regions discontent is growing, where they are ruled mainly by representatives of the old soviet nomenklatura, their majority in the supreme council. the oppositionists sabotage all of yeltsin’s key decisions and introduce convenient ones into the constitution corrections for yourself. in 1993, deputies introduced 400 amendments to the constitution and the country simply found itself without a basic law. of course, this is not
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a conflict between yeltsin and khazbulatov, this is a conflict between actually two socio-political systems, so as not to deal with ideology, they can be called democratic and reactionary. yours is dangerous today. doubly dangerous without power. a legal and actual dual power is emerging in the country. russia is driven into a political impasse and there is no way out of it. the first attempt to cut the proud vuzel is made by boris yeltsin. on september 21, he unexpectedly appears on tv screens. in accordance with the presidential decree, the legislative and control functions of the congress of people's deputies and the supreme council of the russian federation are being interrupted today. on this day, yeltsin took an unprecedented step, signing decree 1400, which effectively
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dissolved the congress of people's deputies and the supreme council, and called elections to the new russian parliament, the state duma. yelchino, of course, exists, this is still peter ii wrote the regulations. and the sovereign is not obliged to report to anyone and is not responsible for his actions at all, but he and the sovereign, something close happened here too, the supreme council is going into confrontation, yeltsin violated the constitution. and must be deposed. at an emergency meeting , deputies appoint vice president alexander rutskov as acting president of russia. the rebels view the white house as the center of the new presidential power in the country. here they set up military headquarters and decide to take up arms. power is taken away right at move with the help of some signed paper of a presidential decree. we must fight this. that's why we fought. the state that was.
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in response to khazbulatov’s demarche, boris elson orders to surround the white house, where deputies and armed supporters are holed up, surround it with barbed wire, cut off communications, electricity and sewerage. they left, democrats, left the congress, disrupted the quorum. then they declared us enemies of the people. you have no idea who was sitting there, not in the conference room, in the basements. everything was ready to go armed. i'm freaking out, terrible blood would flow, however, the belodomovsk residents of sedel did not feel cut off from the world, through an extensive network of underground sewer collectors they were supplied not only with information, we are located in the very center of moscow, behind us is kudrinskaya square, we will tell you a little secret, literally two to 3 meters from us, valentin , there is this hatch, which was actually the entrance to the white house , we entered and exited this hatch in order to
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transmit information to the white house, weapons, no, this is excluded, it turned out to be possible, and weapons and ammunition were carried into the white house , and how long it took to move from here to the office, say, or russian, half an hour, half an hour, but there was only a dangerous section, there was a police cordon, in the summer there was still hope to transfer the conflict to a peaceful channel, to accept... the zero option, that is, to carry out simultaneous re-elections of the president and parliament. and before this, the kremlin constantly offered peaceful ways out of the crisis, but the supreme council rejected everything. khazbullatov didn’t need the zero option either. in the new parliament he would not have received the position of chairman. yeltsin himself hesitated for a long time, even for the sake of peace, he did not want to accept the zero option. however, literally on the eve of the bloody october events, he agreed. for re-election of the president of the entire deputy
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corps. here in the st. danilov monastery, patriarch alexy ii. gathered the conflicting parties. and they had to settle the matter peacefully. but then a real detective story happened. fillatov then brought a written consent signed by yeltsin to go to simultaneous early elections. and one of khazbulatov’s deputies simply put this letter from yeltsin in his pocket. did they show this letter is unknown to khazbolatov, but the deputies never learned anything about the president’s consent , it’s clear why, i can’t conduct any official negotiations, well, with whom can i negotiate, yeltsin delayed until the last minute, moreover, he turned off the electricity and sewerage there, get out of there , pensioners, don’t be afraid, we will give you a big pension, we’ll get each of you a job, just don’t do this, in moscow , thousands of
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people gathered at a rally of one or the other branch of government, and there was a smell of armed rebellion in the air. on sunday, october 3, in the afternoon day, a crowd of thousands of supporters of the supreme council went to break the cordon. that's when the first shots rang out. following this, rutskov’s call was heard from the balcony of the white house. young people, combat-ready men, here on the left side, line up to form detachments. and today it is necessary to storm the city hall, the remains of the armed defenders of the white house under the command of two generals, rutskov and makashov, rushed to storm the building. myria was taken almost without a fight. the police guards did not offer any resistance; they were quickly disarmed and made a laughing stock to the jubilant supporters of the supreme council. we took this damned moria, never on our land.
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there will be no more mayors, no perovs, no serovs, one of these centers of events was smolensk square, here in moscow, valentin novikov took part in all these events directly, and he led one of the columns of kostankin’s trucks. valentin, how did everything turn out then, where did the trucks come from? on the third, when the columns were moving from the october square, a square of trucks was already lined up here. the ministry of internal affairs has built heavy urals, it turned out that the attackers began to smash these cars, which means smashing, well, they began to beat with crowbars, they began to beat the soldier. i began to stop people with the national monarchist flag, and with this one, and began to say that these cars are state property, they belong to the supreme council, the militants seized four trucks on smolensk square, one of the cars was driven by a soldier
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of the internal troops of derzhinsky’s division named mikhail. novikov actually saved him from the angry crowd that was gathering tear apart a fighter. it so happened that in all this commotion, of course, i didn’t see how in one of my trucks there was a box with that strange pomegranate, which later appeared under the walls of ostankino, well, did you feel it or was there no such idea at all then that things are heading towards civil war, on the third day events went too quickly, when we directly came into contact with the ministry of internal affairs, there was no time to think, reflect, everything went smoothly. makashov's detachment consisted mainly of retired officers security forces, almost all of them, went through hot spots and had combat experience. well, i
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jumped into one of the trucks, probably the last one leaving, and there were about 10-12 people there, probably a couple in love gnawing. and the guys began to find out who was from where, it turned out that everyone was coming, not a single muscovite, then they began to ask who had what kind of weapon, well , only one selected police machine gun was found, with makashov there was a group from the north and his personal security, this is about 20- 2 machine guns, the opposition, now armed, urgently needs to get an all-russian the podium where you are taking the remains to collect, it was possible from somewhere to proclaim the overthrow of yeltsin and call for the seizure of power locally. only television could provide such a platform. why did they go there? makashov apparently believed that his authority, as an army general who had passed through the hot spot there, would be enough for him to enter the building and say, surrender, everyone
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will surrender. general makashov's column headed to ostankino along the garden ring and mira avenue. the second column kicked in behind her. her route ran through maryi grove having learned about this, the leadership of the ministry of internal affairs sends reinforcements to the television and radio complex of the special detachment of internal troops vite. the fighters travel to ostankino in parallel with the makashovites. a couple of times the columns come close, but do not make contact. strangely, the armed rebels drove through in gargle trucks and no one stopped them. the security forces have no coordination. the traffic cops gave it to the column. green street, and moreover, i really liked that at the intersection on korolev street, the traffic cop stopped the oncoming flood and with his baton gave the direction where the column should move attackers. at 16:50, when the columns arrived at the television center,
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a large rally was already underway at the seventeenth entrance. my colleagues and i were in astankino, you went there kostankina with armed people, that is, in fact you went to kill. people who work in ostankinoye and those who protect them, in fact, no, we didn’t go to kill, we went as a tactical move, that we needed to get vastankin’s broadcast, yes, i understood that, i didn’t have enough imagination, to understand, that blood will really be shed, that there will be some explosions, i think that today we need to take the kremlin, ostankina has been taken. at the time when khazbullatov was deceiving the deputies and announced the seizure of the television center, the chairman of the ostankino television and radio company bragin was cutting off government phones, everyone answered the same thing, slava, hold on, we will not abandon you, help is already coming to you. viktor stepanovich in
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his usual, such an epic role, glory , turn off, forgive me, a sinner, the channel - break the equipment there so that these, as they say, do not capture ostankino, i tell him i answer, viktor stepanovich, i mean, i won’t do the obol that you order me, before the vitya detachment arrived in ostankino , 84 soldiers of the sofrinsky brigade were already here, without weapons, but in bulletproof vests, the deputy chief of the police guard of the television center, evgeniy popovichev, was surprised why they were actually sent here, that’s all. they were unarmed, that is, they simply lay under the cars throughout the battle, and at night it was also decided that there would be no casualties, they were sent to the television center and, as they say, let god go. makashov climbed onto the porch... of the entrance, his met evgeniy popovich. the general was outraged that the deputy chief of police security
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at the television center came out to him with a machine gun. we security guards immediately suggested, he said: “and he says that he’s standing here, let’s kill him right here.” that i remember well that i was learning so little by little and especially when i tell you that they are going to kill you, i was then, although i thought that i was very old, i was already 37 years old then, but i still wanted to live . the ardor of the guards was cooled by makashov himself. the general said that yeltsin had been overthrown. and now we need to take power on the ground, you were the last one left, we had already gone to the cradle, that is, well, unfortunately, we did not have any communication at that time, that is, we could not connect with anyone by telephone, since the headquarters of the khvd at that time, the city hall was already defeated and, of course, it was very difficult to navigate this situation. makashov made a demand to bring braginaa and the film crew to him within 15 minutes, right from the seventeenth entrance, to give him the opportunity to go live. bragin did not go to the general. during during these negotiations , the sound of an armored personnel carrier was heard from the side of the concert studio.
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the special forces detachment vitsya, led by its commander sergei losyuk, arrived to help the police. seryoga, remember, this fence was built, though it was built up, in my opinion, it was a little lower. just as we were visiting a tree, this fence was broken. yeah, well, then we went out and sat behind the column. yes, they dismounted and took over. a group of about 15-20 people broke into the ships and ran along the corridor. the policemen were frightened there by the roar of broken glass and destroyed window frames. who but he burst into them, the militants burst in. and it was unclear to me who these policemen were? on whom and
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in the main building, you can’t go out , here in large studios they are recording programs with spectators, television concerts, performances, at some point the crowd was turned around for some reason they took her to that building; among the people there were 15-20 organized makoshovites, onlookers, sympathizers, and most of all journalists. channel one news was broadcast live. from this building, it was here that the notorious ether button was located. makashov ordered his armed supporters to block the main entrance to vsk-3. between the two buildings of the television center, right under academician korolev street, there is this underground passage. it is along it that the commander of the detachment, vityazey lysyuk, secretly runs and leads his
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fighters to the ask-3 building. there they should have been meet the squad. at the same time, vites blocks the passage so that no one from the television center employees can pass through it. meanwhile, makashov picks up a megaphone and demands to be allowed into the building. if his ultimatum is not fulfilled after 3 minutes, the general threatens to launch an assault. a group of rebels stops trolleybuses and disembarks passengers. the already impressive crowd at the television center is increased by the crowd. consciously. forms a human shield from unarmed ordinary people, they are preparing for the assault. in the doorway a man appears with a grenade loaded with a tandem cumulative grenade. he has yet to play a special role in the impending drama. a police officer from the city of st. petersburg, short, wearing a kazka, his last name, as far as i remember, is mortality.
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seeing the grenade launcher, the vitese fighters take a defensive position. by 7:00 pm, two buildings of the television center and the ostanti tower are protected by 480 military personnel. they are armed with 320 machine guns, 130 pistols, 12. makashov asked the demonstrators not to break anything or beat anything, saying that the property of the television center was supposed to be a national treasure, just like the bolsheviks in october of the seventeenth, at that moment , a shot was heard from the side of the ask-1 building , makashov’s militant, lieutenant colonel nikolai kristinkin from kiev, was wounded in the leg, later, the investigation did not establish who shot? it seems that until the last minute no one believed that this building would be stormed, but general makashov apparently decided to go to the end, he ordered
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the main entrance-3 to be broken down with a heavy truck, there was a grinding of metal, the sound of broken glass and excited screams, a step towards a bloody denouement was already done. how did it happen, valentin, that your truck became the first attack vehicle that broke through the window of this building, you were sitting in the cabin, no, i was no longer sitting in the cabin, we were nearby, but the soldier was simply given an order, it ’s not me anymore ordered, it was ordered by those close to makashov, because he was already in direct control. after the first truck gets stuck under the concrete canopy of the main entrance, the second one drives into the stained glass windows nearby,
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a strong explosion is heard inside the building, at that moment fatal special forces soldier vite, nikolai sitnik, is wounded. in response, the special forces opened hurricane fire, after the grenade launcher fired and the fitnikov was killed , the command, which means to open fire, was fired with single shots at the armed men, and single shots, as they say, i don’t even smell here, a real light show began at the television center, bullets seemed to be pouring from the sky like iron rain, one of the bullets hit, heel, and i flew out of the shelling zone like a fish, fell with the camera on the asphalt, broke it, so i took another one and started filming, in this time on the first channel of the country... watching a football match volgograd roter sartak moscow. attacking - spartak player violated the rules. suddenly the picture disappears.
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a confused announcer lev viktorov appears on the screen. dear tv viewers, due to the armed siege of the ostankino television company, we are forced to interrupt the broadcast. after the announcer there is a tuning table, but soon. it disappears, in the purity of the first button, a black void. bragin, as he claims, agreed in advance with the minister of communications bolgak and the head of the russian television poptsov, that when the situation becomes critical, they will switch channels, that is, the second will go on the purity of the first. bragin believed that this is exactly the situation that arose after the director of the television news agency boris nepomnyashchy called him. that's it, switch, because the building is on fire, i can already hear that the militants are already inside the building, i immediately called the minister of communications bulgak and said, vladimir, the situation has come to such
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a moment that we need to start implementing this preliminary agreement, good weather, from here from the observation deck of the tv tower, the entire ostankino television and radio complex is very clearly visible, here in ... hardware and studio complex 3, which the rebels stormed, when they realized that they could not take the building, they set fire to its left corner with molotov cocktails , here he is looking at you now, and this is no coincidence, because it was there that the transformer substations were located, the fire started, and the sk-3 instantly lost power; according to one version, the automation turned off the telesignal. it was
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after this that all televisions in the country went dark. air conditioning vents were located next to the burning electrical substation. hot air and smoke were sucked into the building, they said that the automation had triggered, the signal stopped coming from the television center, but everything turned out to be much simpler. bragen gave the command. and here in the central one. hardware, from where the television signal goes to the tower, and then throughout the country, they just pressed the right button, the already tense situation in russia became even more tense, many regions could then receive... only the first channel, hurry up, turn it off there was no need to go on air, but no one reached the central control room, so it was necessary to hold on until the end, apparently panic set in, you can always leave the air quickly, in escalating the situation in alarmism, in fact, then bragin was accused, poptsov joined this chorus, that bragin seemed to be cowardly, faint-hearted, turned off the air, that’s all...
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an information feat that television accomplished for the vgtrk account, and for poptsov personally. i think that in the conditions of the fact that he could not get an answer from anyone, fear of everything else, he behaved with dignity. why did they set it on fire? television center, a national treasure, as makashov said? they refused to give us air, they don’t want to enter into negotiations with us, we won’t get air, what sense can ostankin’s classes have for us, only one, let there be no air for us, but let there be no air for the opposite ones. friends, don’t believe anyone who says: don’t go, don’t gather, stay calm. a black, gaping hole in the air for almost 40 minutes, 40 minutes of blank screen. all this time, the inhabitants of the country remained in the dark. what's happening in moscow? armed coup, is it still alive?
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yeltsin, where is khazbolato? now, years later , it’s easy to argue what should have been done then , to condemn television executives for unprepared decisions. vyacheslav bragin was appointed switchman. he was removed from the leadership of the television and radio company. what would have happened if armed people had burst into the studio during a live broadcast? the audience would have been even more shocked than from seeing black people. their own tv screens. it is clear that this would lead to large-scale bloody clashes not only in moscow, but throughout russia, which has already looked into the abyss of civil war. after 40 minutes of painful pause, the intro for the program appeared on the frequencies of the first channel. colleagues went live from the backup studio on shabolovka and scared everyone even more. forwards
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using. did the current government have any backup options for going on air, from which they could search in conditions of, for example , some kind of atomic threat or a big war, so to speak, these opportunities also existed, it had to be launched, it took a lot of time, it’s inconspicuous building, one of buildings of the sofrina recreation center near moscow, state tv and radio employees once loved to relax. under this old building we discovered a secret mothballed radio center. to this day, even boarding house staff are prohibited from entering here. look how hermetically sealed the doors are, like a submarine that is supposed to withstand
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an atomic explosion. there is no cheese here, but it is quite comfortable, you can even walk around in a suit, we found our own artesian well and an autonomous diesel unit here, in principle , there is everything to work normally, oh, i wonder if there is light? exactly, there is, it’s amazing, this is a central underground radio control room, the equipment is old, but apparently, it’s possible, if you try to get it on the air right now, we haven’t found a television studio here underground, but from here you can go live on the air both independently and through the vastankin television and radio center, but only
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on the radio, to this, now let's go back to the beginning of vastankin's battle, almost the main question in the story of the storming of the television center, who shot first, what kind of explosion occurred inside building that killed nikolai sitnikov, it was this explosion that became the signal to open fire. because our people will be retreating here, there was a roar from this wall, and the soldier who was standing in this very place literally collapsed. on the floor, the whole point is that i immediately fell on my hands, my pants were wet, and nevertheless i crawled up to him, touched his pulse, he told me... i must say that there was no one else nearby at that time it was, he and i, a quiet, calm boy who always walked so, one might say, unnoticed was, you know, doing what had to be done, that’s all, he himself is from novosibirsk , at that moment he had, well , about 2 weeks left before dember, i don’t remember exactly, well,
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somewhere the opinion of eyewitnesses differs, even among the defenders, it was a shot from a grenade, only the grenade was a training blank, that is, it was all a grenade, but the shot was also a grenade. the grenade was a training one. training grenades are painted black, and combat grenades are painted green. it was specifically a combat shot, cumulative, tandem. interdepartmental commission the prosecutor general's office came to a completely different conclusion. inside, there was no telecentre shot from a grenade with a grenade. it was behind this balustrade that sitnikov occupied a fighting position. this is confirmed by all participants in the battle. if an rpg-7 grenade had hit that wall behind him, it would have completely destroyed it. but here there were only traces of fragments. i saw this myself the next day. it was some kind of
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special device. and if you take into account that the knights arrived, they had just arrived from the northern caucasus, where they generally participated at that time, these troubles were already beginning there. what they might have had in their armored personnel carriers, but this is known only to them, however , a fragment was found in the body of the deceased, which was handed over to the prosecutor's office, we gave the remains of this shot to the prosecutor's office, i also gave the fragment with which sitnikov was killed, he was killed by traces blood, but no conclusion followed, there was some kind of indistinct answer. pentalgin extragel: it contains a special component for better penetration into the source of pain and inflammation. pentalgin extragel against pain and inflammation in muscles and joints. look at this ozonbank. and how many clients do you have here? already more than 25 million. they also give cashback up to 100%
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line they are preparing for battle with an rpg7 grenade, exactly the same one that was allegedly fired at the walls of ostankino. lieutenant in command commander roto, sergei sergeevich nikolaevich, hello, where are we going to shoot? let's shoot at a tank, what can an rpg-7 do? the rp-7 is a very formidable weapon, it can penetrate a meter of concrete wall, one and a half meters of brickwork. in the wall. which killed sitnikov, there was no deep burn or hole from the cumulative grenade, which is very important. the slab that suffered the most was replaced, you see, it’s even a different color, but this marble was not replaced, only the chip was covered up, the cumulative damage is not visible in the video footage jets from a grenade shot. granada, fire on the tank.
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that's right, but if you stand behind, that is, if a crowd stands in the crowd to fire such a shot, then how many people can get hurt, if the shot occurs in the crowd, then more than one person will burn, how many will stand behind there, everything is probably, it seems to me, they will get shocked, the version that training grenades were fired from rpgsem does not stand up to criticism at all, there is no combat charge inside the training blank, the shooting is carried out... with a 762 caliber bullet, and the hole in the wall does not at all look like field, but rpg7 is not the only grenade that could fire that day, i have in my hands a grenade from an under-barrel grenade, a post-barrel grenade, because it is attached under the barrel of a machine gun, what is the range of this grenade, the firing range is 400 m, shoot from the crowd with this grenade safely. i have in my hands photographs from the scene of the tragedy, sergei
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sergeevich, here are the slabs from which crumbs or fragments flew off, which in turn hit the soldier sitnikov, why did he die? can rp-7 produce such destruction? but this is definitely not an rpg, if if they were shooting with an rpg, if the wall had been opened much stronger and there would have been fragments, everything would have been different. that’s what a grenade fired from a hand-held anti-tank grenade does to a tank, it simply makes a grenade out of it, and what vostankina had was probably a grenade from an under-barrel grenade, which simply made a chip in the plate, the under-barrel grenade gp-25 is a very convenient weapon for attack, and for provocations too. the only thing is that those who attacked
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the building of television centers did not have under-barrel grenades, but the commander of the knights, sergei lysyuk, claims that his the fighters could not even fire an accidental shot from an under-barrel grenade. we had one rpg7 grenade, and there were under-barrel grenades, which were standard, but there was no ammunition. i remained pointing the camera at the entrance. there was an explosion inside, i pressed the button, and i have a photo of fragments flying from inside, but this explosion was insignificant, i think that at the most tense moment one of the young fighters lost his nerve and he pulled the trigger, well, an unaccounted grenade could well have ended up in his pouch, well, in the rebels exactly the same grenade could have been used for... why didn’t they have grenade launchers, who saw this?
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investigators from the prosecutor's office began working on vastankin the next day, when the trail was militant. cooled down veterans of the internal troops are now going to re -examine the broken marble slab in order to set the record straight, but will it answer the question of who shot first? it’s unlikely, no one is interested in being sincere. how would events have developed if the first shot had not been fired at all? now, if they just went and started squeezing us out, not shooting, not shooting, well, maybe they wouldn’t have started shooting, what can you imagine, take it and you can’t imagine what it’s like to take a machine gun and just shoot into the crowd, if they hadn’t shot, they would have crushed us, we didn’t do anything could have done everything, we wouldn’t have used weapons, don’t twitch, i’m the only one for you, there is still talk that peaceful people came to the television center, they had no weapons at all, and so during the assault 18
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special forces soldiers and police officers received various injuries, i will show you... the fire that was carried out according to us, there are traces of bullets, and you see, here, but here everything is completely ruined, so i say, after visiting civilians, such traces would not remain, the militants drive up a watering machine, they hide behind it again and try to break into the building, this is where the ghost armored personnel carrier appears with a red flag, the rebels greet it with enthusiasm, moga has arrived, the armored personnel carrier began to jump over the flowerbeds, although the wounded were lying there nearby, and began to shoot at the burning second floor, then for some reason it turned the tower towards the people and gave the fans a turn in mine side, a guy fell next to me with a wound in the groin, and i decided it was time to leave,
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where did this armored personnel carrier come from, why did he shoot at ours and yours, well, most likely his crew. took in the direction of the defenders of the white house, well, there was no communication then, no coordination either, when the soldiers arrived here in ostankino, they didn’t get their bearings, they immediately started firing at the windows of the television and radio complex, and then they saw the armored personnel carriers of the knights, the corpses of blood. they probably remembered the oath, got scared and fired a line at the crowd. upon learning that the assault the television center failed, a retired aviation general... in a panic began to cry out for help to military pilots: if the pilots can hear me, raise the combat vehicles, more than 300 people were shot. bombers are the sick fantasy of a downed pilot. after an unsuccessful attempt to break into the television center, some of the militants retreated to a nearby film equipment plant, while others
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followed mokashov to the white house. among them was valentin novikov. his dented truck with the monarchical. they stopped the garden ring with a flag. five to six blows to the head everything with my feet, and then i ended up in the hospital, two machine gunners guarded me, chained me up, like some dangerous criminal, and here, i already realized that this is my war, that’s all, it’s over, in a burning, smoke-filled, in the ask-3 building, which was plunged into darkness, employees of the television center continued to be present, among whom there were many women, typists, sound engineers, the loudspeaker did not work, through which it was possible to tell people what was happening, name the evacuation routes, our then general ran into the control room director ita, borya nepomnyashchiy, stop working , let's get out of here, i'm getting out of here, i have time for material for
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the program, it needs to be finished, i have nothing left, what program is time, we've already been a few... off the air, come on get out of here, in the corridor of the first floor about 40 people, employees of the television center, had accumulated, they decided to get out of the building through the side door, but it was jammed, then everyone ran to the exit to the courtyard, somewhere around here, a voice was heard from here, stop, we’ll shoot , and the clicking of shutters, we stopped, guys, we are our own, our ostankino tv crews, and... well, come on, sveta , come out here quickly, maybe someone left earlier, they were accompanied, evacuated, but we walked on our own, rescuing the drowning people was the work of the drowning people themselves . people rushed to
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the ostankino platform, because all the roads to the television center were blocked, only by train was it possible... to get out of this hell. and so we, all of us who came out of this burning ostanti building, burst into these train cars, to the great surprise of the people, sunday afternoon in the evening from their dachas, who did not understand what was going on in moscow, where it all came from, people were scratched, undressed, that evening our colleague, video engineer sergei krosilnikov, died, when the shooting started, he looked out into the dark corridor from his control room, here near this room, a dye worker, a video engineer at a television center, died, the bullet was a stray one, fired from the street, but it ricocheted, and in order... to shoot from the street to get into krosilnikovo, it was necessary to have a barrel, at least, that means, with two three-point bends. the bullet, as the investigation established, was from
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makarov pistol, which was used by the police. it was impossible to get to krosilnikovo from the street from the pm. this was confirmed by forensic examination. we were not allowed to shoot the weapons of the internal troops, we were not allowed to shoot the weapons of the police. if only suddenly. captured the television center, how did you imagine the further development of events, that you would enter the studio, everyone would serve you and you would broadcast to the whole country, but this would never have happened, i know this, because i knew the mood of all my colleagues inside, but this is a dead end, this is a dead end development events, because we had to continue to stay to defend the supreme council, or on the third evening we had to go home, i think this is a huge tactical one.
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we weren’t going to shoot anyone, we weren’t going to shoot, but all the sidewalks near the television center were covered in blood, 46, 124 wounded, a terrible price, a crazy adventure, with live news after the assault on ostankino we had to leave not from the usual studio, which was taken out of building, but from such an on-air control room. i sat on a chair, approximately the same, which was placed on an improvised podium, so that the assistants could, unnoticed by the on-air camera, get to the tape recorder and insert a cassette, everyone’s adrenaline was pumping over the edge, in general, in a war it’s like in a war. now the omu unit on the inner tail is combing the area in the area of ​​​​the fifth year and the barricade metro station , several groups have been detained, six out of seven people, mostly... these are young people, they are dressed in tracksuits, all of them are immersed in buses are sent in an unknown direction. when everything seemed
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to be fine, the broadcast was turned off again. here, in the central control room , an unknown general appeared and demanded that the signal be turned off to clear the message. i called bragin and said: vyacheslav ivanovich, what’s the matter, did you give the command to turn off the air? well, this is a five-story set of words, as they say. i’m now going to call the kremlin, while he was calling the kremlin, i got a call again, viktor ivanovich, they swept us all out of the control room, just like he was swept out, and so everything was washed out, everything, i see, there is no airtime, however army discipline on television, which developed back in soviet times, played a role, employees were accustomed to following the instructions only of their superiors, no one went home. ragin never got through to anyone in the kremlin, and the general, the general , disappeared just as mysteriously as he had appeared. early in the morning

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