[000:01:04;00] there is a big game on the air, stubborn fighting continues in ukraine, ukrainian missiles and drones are flying, fortunately, almost all of them were shot down, without any serious damage, but there are also alarming signals, in this case not in terms of the results of the ukrainian offensive, but plan. let's listen to what us secretary of state antony blinken just said. in the end, the decision on how to use these weapons, where to use them, is a decision that ukraine itself must make. it is in kyiv that they should to decide how best to defend their country, how best to return the lands of occupied russia, we leave it to their discretion. our position

is to neither encourage nor permit. ukraine, but by and large these decisions should be made by ukraine? by and large , this decision should be made by ukraine. well, one can understand this position. but tell us: dmitry drozdenko, editor -in-chief of the internet magazine arsenal of the fatherland and leading military expert? and if such decisions must be made independently. ukraine and the united states gives ukraine such a right, although rightly so, it is connected with opportunities, and opportunities are related to the fact that weapons come from the united states, that ammunition for these weapons comes from the united states, american patronage allows ukraine to stay afloat, it is not logical or

what if such a right is accepted. kiev has an independent decision, then moscow should at least have the right to make its own sovereign decisions on how to respond to this, and this answer is completely optional, must be symmetrical and concern only ukraine, and may affect its patrons, i am going too far, no, you are not going far, but first of all, if you allow, dear presenters, briefly about the situation on the front line, the battles and especially in the southern direction, but the situation has become viscous, that is, despite the fact that the enemy throws - huge by current standards - forces and means to try to overcome our line of defense, nothing works out for him, in the end we come to the conclusion that the situation will freeze in the near future, the west will not get that the result he was counting on, in connection with this the general tactics will change, we understand this from statements and not

only in general by blinkin. it will develop into a different version of the war, as i already suggested in this studio, it will be a war of air and long arm, this is precisely the hint that can be seen in his statement, the fact is that these are long-range missiles that have already been delivered to ukraine, stormshadow and scalp egapted onto the su-24, this missile is quite dangerous, we already know that they are against us. this the damage is also quite complicated, the number of these missiles is growing, the missiles supplied are precisely those, because britain, if i’m not mistaken, has an arsenal of about 1000 missiles, france , in my opinion, 700, and accordingly the missiles that will still be supplied, i’m sure of this are german , also about 700-600, yes, in general, these are similar missiles and the legs grow from the same manufacturer, concert nabda,

but the thing is that the su-24 carrier is adapted for them, but to adapt the entire aircraft, i with a 90% probability, as i say, very difficult, therefore, the launch system is most likely adapted, the data in the head is entered most likely not in automatic mode, on the ground, this data is entered by specialists from nato countries, that is, accordingly, it will be the french, the british and the germans, that is, wait, then you say that when the secretary of state says that this is a sovereign decision of ukraine, he is disingenuous, of course, he is absolutely disingenuous, like many other politicians, because these specialists are present on the front line, they are the ones who not only convey the integrity and intelligence data, but are involved in the management of this complex equipment , they would also have the right to refuse to do this, but here they entrust to ukraine the most central decision on why to strike in russia, but they

are leading the words in order to absolve themselves of responsibility , that it is not they who are delivering these strikes, that’s the point, that is, it ’s a fake, in general it’s all a fake, in fact, yes, it’s a fake from the beginning, and ukraine cannot... control these weapons purely technologically. if ukraine had typhoon and tornado planes, they would fly on them, then yes, then you can imagine that they trained a ukrainian pilot who can do this. but in this situation, this is technologically impossible. that is, it is very difficult to convert, especially outdated equipment, to modern types of weapons, especially since they are incompatible, everything is incompatible there, from excuse me, the on-board network, powering its parameters, to many, many other things, so you can use it as a launch platform, as a full-fledged weapon complex, and an aircraft with weapons is a weapon complex, in this situation i think it’s practically impossible, especially in just a matter of how long the adaptation took place, two months. i don’t believe, of course, in the strength of, let’s say, the western military-industrial complex to such an extent, so

the problem is that the west gives ukraine, roughly speaking, the right to send , now the question is whether it will give the opportunity to hit what they want, here... the question is already coming more from a political point of view, not a military one, because now we see how the escalation of this conflict is unwinding in a spiral, and every time this the spiral rises to the top, because well, the principle in general what does containment of escalatory actions consist of, that is, you must have the situation of containment itself , that is, roughly speaking, a statement that we will restrain you, a means of deterrence, a situation of weapons, and most importantly, the will to use it, that is, the will in order to take into account the costs as a result of these retaliatory actions, this is the most important thing, and if point three is not followed, then a gray zone arises in which it is not clear how

the enemy will respond, whether he is accumulating these small steps, or he's just the opposite retreats, and this gray zone, on the one hand it is frightening, on the other hand it gives the enemy the opportunity to move forward along this ladder from... if you yourself allow the enemy to do this, right? of course, further, what kind of option could this deterrence itself be? it really can be symmetrical and asymmetrical, that is, in different areas, from economic to political, to military in principle, to critical, critical - these are the ones that are always spinning, this is the use of nuclear weapons and the fact that the west is us all the time encourages the use of tactical weapons, but, by the way, it is absolutely unprofitable and stupid for us, because these weapons are not adapted for these purposes, then what is the point of using them, using them in ukraine, for us there is no threat of nuclear weapons to distant countries, say

so, this is a more interesting option , the threat, again, it can be completely different, for this it is not even necessary to conduct tests, shoot somewhere, there are certain and documented, that is, contractual situations and there are test situations, let's call so, that is, conducting tests in such a way that global legislation is not violated, at the same time, these countries felt threatened, because if you dig so deep, launches in, say, north korea, they do not violate the law, kimchi operates within the framework of the law, and no one in principle, nothing can be done to him for this, dmitry, i am not a supporter of the use of any nuclear weapons. at this stage and do not see the need for this, on the other hand, when i hear that tactical nuclear weapons do not have a rational mission, i am with it it’s hard to agree, let me

ask a specific question, if russia decided, i emphasize, i would not recommend such a solution yet, but if the situation required it, if russia wanted to find something. which would be effective not only and not so much even against the ukrainian army, but to force europe to leave the game, or at least to show significantly greater flexibility. tell me, tactical nuclear weapons are not ideally designed to organize tens of millions of refugees from ukraine who would flood europe. well, tens of millions of refugees, ukrainians are already flooding europe, but i ’m just talking a little about tactical nuclear weapons, they are intended precisely as their name implies, for use in the tactical theater of military operations, not in strategy. and the eternal dream

of the americans, this is embedded in many of their studies in publications, in simulations, this is a conflict on the territory of the european continent, a phase, the unfolding phase of using and exchanging blows with the united states, is considered as secondary and not necessarily, all the time, because if you think about their logic, the question arises, did you use nuclear weapons in the european theater of operations, yes, the weapons are ours, but the plane that carried them, for example. what is dutch, why attack america, what does america have to do with it, it’s not us, everything is correct, you know, the logic is interesting, the logic is interesting, my logic, you know, this is what it is in this case, that there is no need to use nuclear weapons, to do everything rational it's possible that it won't come to this, but my logic is different the point is that they need to convince washington and european capitals that the path is uncontrollable and unrequited... that this

is also a very dangerous road, so i think about what they would have to keep in mind, what russia could do if they it was brought to this point, and it seems to me that russia’s use of tactical nuclear weapons would be significantly more destructive for russia’s opponents than for russia itself, where am i wrong? well, first of all, nuclear weapons are that demon, uh, which if released, then this country will suffer more, the one that they are releasing, of course, this is a purely psychological phenomenon, if we allow us to use tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine, we will not achieve any special military goals, because they are weak for this, but we will lose very seriously in the international arena, really very seriously, because you see, the very power of nuclear weapons, but this is again my point of view, in its explosion power, in the fear that it creates,

what is happening now is that the west has lost fear, this fear must be returned, but return fear can be done using different methods khrushchov, he returned fear without striking, that is, you can blow it up on a new land, or you can place missiles on a cube, think that you and i are talking about the same thing, only slightly different, i would like to avoid anyone. russia's way is to convince washington, london and brussels that they really have something to fear, and i have no doubt that russia has such capabilities, i also have no doubt that if russia followed this path, you are absolutely right, it would have to it

's a lot to pay for this. great price so i consider it undesirable, but it is important that another country understands that driving russia into a corner is allowing, allegedly, as you say, allowing kiev to use more and more destructive weapons against russia, that this cannot be a one-goal game, and for them it can be very dangerous. well, let's talk about another region, where the immediate danger seems to have passed, but the situation remains very serious, and i, of course, say, senator dzhabarov, first deputy, chairman of the international affairs committee of the federation council, i, of course, say in the caucasus, the conflict between armenia and azerbaijan, today we have already reached the point where let’s listen to what prime minister pashinyan said, if i know that all challenges will be overcome by my resignation, i will do so. in a second because i don't cling to a chair like you, is this

an encouraging statement or a ploy? i don’t think that a current politician in the modern world, a head of state, in fact, since the current prime minister in armenia is the head of state, that this can really happen, i love history, i just i know two cases from memory when a person voluntarily resigned, i believe that his step will save the country, well, first of all, this is the abdication of nicholas ii, although i believe that it was a mistake that our monarch made then, the second case is the president of kyrgyzstan , who volunteered, i once talked to him, he said: “i didn’t want bloodshed in the country, so i decided to resign, so i think that most likely no one will resign anywhere, this is such a calculated game on, well,

maybe even scare your population, that the country will be left without a leader, a national one, i think the situation there is so difficult now, it is unpredictable, it is unknown what the future will be called according to what scenario, i allow myself to return after all, i really liked the first question you asked, so however, i agree with your and dmitry’s arguments regarding tactical nuclear weapons, but it is also not profitable for us to use them, because to use them in ukraine, i believe that these are our lands, sooner or later, why should we litter the land where we then we’ll come and basically restore it novorossia, greater russia, great russia, that’s what concerns: blinkin’s statement, you know, i have this question, if only sergei viktorovich lavrov so simply stated, in some conversation, at some summit, forum, that we are now discussing, let's say, the issue of stands, relatively speaking, north korean soromats, and how they should use these soromats,

let them decide for themselves, i think the panic that would have started there now in the united states, it was simply impossible to describe, so so i think that sometimes you still need make such statements, such a plan, so that our opponents in the west understand that we also know how to joke, there is truth in every joke, you are absolutely right from my point of view, and it seems to me that there are no fundamental disagreements between me and dmitry, we both agree that the use of tactical weapons is not only undesirable, but extremely undesirable. but it seems to me that we both also understand when dmitry spoke about the need to return fear, i use a somewhat more cautious expression, it is necessary that on the other the parties were afraid, and when we talk about tactical nuclear weapons, we are only talking about

a situation where russia would be forced to use them, and hopefully this would give healthy elements. restraint of another country, an element that from my point of view is still missing, here is blinken, he says, in a different way, alexander dugin, philosopher, political scientist, and great expert on geopolitical, so let's see how blinken defines the two tasks of american strategy in this confrontation over ukraine. from day one president biden was guided by two guiding stars, one was to make sure that we were doing everything possible to support ukraine and involve other countries in this, and the other was to avoid a direct clash with russia, since such a conflict could potentially lead to something that no one doesn't want to and that could have a negative impact on the security of americans, so following these guiding stars is, in my opinion

, a central aspect of how president biden approaches certain issues. what is your rating? in my opinion, this is enough... a sober description, a very realistic description of the policy that biden adheres to, that is, when it comes to the conflict in ukraine or in ukraine with russia, through the use of proxies, they will do everything possible, supply ukraine with any weapons, give it any military assistance that they can, in order to turn the tide of the situation , with the red line, which i am inclined to believe blinken, that the biden administration is really... seeking to avoid direct confrontation with russia, entering, turning this into a war between russia and nato, so it is, it fits into their model, another thing is that here they seem to have two, as it were, two solutions, but we have none, that they can use all their

power through ukraine in order to attack us , and at the same time we are forced to fight so much with ukraine, that is, not even with the regime , and constantly avoid striking them, which is what you dmitry constantly talk about on the program. another thing, i think that we are really approaching, perhaps, a situation that is getting closer and closer to us, this is when we will have to respond to them with something serious, because he got along too well with blinken with biden, that is , they use everything against us, and we , as it were, are forced to respond to the mediator, who, in principle, is like that, that is, they they settled down well, i can say, but they really did just that way, they organized this conflict this way, they provoked it, they are carrying it on like this, as if with minimal possible losses for themselves, and even if we capture all of ukraine, it’s all the same they won’t say we won, because this is not ours at all, it’s not even a member of nato, not the european union, the only thing that seems to me is that

we are now a little in this reflection of the offensive, we are a little accepting the rules of the enemy’s game, that is, we , and i agree with you that we need to find some way out so as not to continue to simply answer, we are in a reactive position, they are deploying such models, blinken speaks openly about them, and we are only forced to accept this model and keep the front, of course, you have to keep the front, but again to my favorite clause, there is the concept of schwerpuntten, that is, such centers of gravity in military strategy are three centers of gravity, the political leadership of ukraine, and the leadership of the military forces, the armed forces and the main economic hubs, that’s no, no obligations to anyone or to ukrainians, nor before the west. not in front of our people, by not inflicting direct blows on them, causing fundamental and

irreversible irreversible damage to industrial transport and so on, no one is forbidden from all this, no one forbids us, this is the red line, which does not follow from this statement by blinked, from the rest of the course of the conflict, they are attacking the territory of russia with long-range missiles, we have deadlines , so if this is the red line in our minds, that is, this moment, we are still have not reached the rubicon that you are talking about in order to use them, directly for nato, such nuclear weapons, i did not talk about using, okay, well, we’re just approaching this objectively, senator, except that you are a member of the federation council, you are still very honored general of the federal security service, and you know.

from your experience in intelligence and counterintelligence, how important it is for, if you like, any competition with the enemy , by what rules of the game you play, who determines these rules, let’s imagine a hypothetical situation, i’m telling you, let’s play football with you , but there is only one very important thing here. don’t consider us participants in this game, no, we are not, not players, here are the forwards of another country, they are players, midfielders, not players, our goalkeeper, no, he is not a participant in the game, we cannot touch the goal, because we are not participants, we are only a supporting country, we are like

coaches, so let’s play, we will kick at your goal, and you will run around our people, would you agree to such conditions of the game, well, you know, it is generally not customary to talk about the work of special services, i want to talk about something else, about the work of special services, in particular the russian one? can we judge by its results? i, on my look, the results are very good. you know that today a sabotage group was detained in crimea, we even saw this scoundrel who was detained, so to detain a group, to obtain information, this is painstaking, hard work of not a single day. and by the way, i want to say, uh, how many messages there were during this time from the federal security service about the neutralization of ukrainian agents. intelligence services, the whole problem is that once it was a related service to us, the security service

of ukraine, we all came out of the same nest, but for a long time, about 15 years, there was no one left there, as they once graduated from the same educational institutions, who once worked on joint events, the americans have been ruling the roost there for a long time, you know that one of the entire floors, one of the floors of the security service of ukraine were occupied by a representative of the cia, who, by the way, were not even allowed onto this floor by active sbu employees. i think that by what rules to play, our federal security service, others, general, i meant more broadly, not the rules of the game for federal security service, and the rules of the game are for the russian state, but the main task that the security agencies now face, in my opinion, is obtaining. information about all the enemy’s plans , timely identification of those individuals who have taken the criminal path, in order to

neutralize and prevent possible damage to our state, so briefly? well, we have the right to a lot, i think that we will implement these rights, thank you, what do you think, well, first of all, i want to repeat, alexander anelevich, let’s say, there will be actions, i think that in the winter one of your points will be fulfilled, these are attacks on the critical infrastructure of ukraine, because its energy sector is now in very bad shape. state, in fact they have everything there, although everything works, everything is on a living thread, and uh, i think that our general staff is preparing just such an operation to turn off ukraine, turn it really into a country 404, for the army, the loss of energy is not scary, because well, the army is quite autonomous, but for industry, any including military, this is of course, and industry is a legitimate target, of course, but we are delivering strikes, but we are again

striking at those facilities that our intelligence has revealed are located there... namely military infrastructure, repair enterprises, therefore by the way, all the statements about the fact that we will open a metal plant there in ukraine, bayraktar, well, it seems to me that this is still much more of such an illusion and just a game, but russia will have the right to prevent this, well, russia is already doing this in one way or another to a different degree, just now, taking into account, well, just the weather conditions, now is not the most effective time, because carrying out the same repair work on visual transformers in the winter is dozens of times... rather than carrying out this work is permissible now, so now is simply not the time to destroy these objects, total destruction, although of course they will try to protect them, but the issue of pots of geranium flowering remains, because we see that their quantity is increasing, their quality is increasing, their capabilities are increasing, and this, in general, turned out to be an original weapon

future, as far as the global situation is concerned, russia has the right to many. answers, but here i’ll try to draw an analogy, they play texas poker with us, we play chess with them, and we play chess by moving pawns, in rare cases moving a bishop, sometimes maybe a rook, but we need at least, if we play according to the rules of chess , move the knights, that is, jump over the situation, create those situations in which, they receive non-linear answers, so we said, now as a proposal, not a linear response in the field of nuclear weapons, but not... nothing in the world, we can conduct tests, we conduct tests, launches from submarines to our test sites or somewhere else, in fact, our test site can be any point in neutral international space, even even not far from the united states, absolutely true, there are two very interesting points, these are the island of gaam and the diego garcia base, respectively, two oceans, if guam, say, is ruled by the americans, but this territory

is incorporated, it is not the territory of the united states, two hundred zone. this is generally just neutral waters, if we are talking about diego garcia - this is the territory of the british , which was leased by the united states, that is, just here and there the anglo-saxons, we have sarmatian, as you correctly noted, no, we have never had it in north korea we won’t give it, because no one has such weapons, such weapons, this is the only rocket now that can carry out orbital bombardment, that is, now all rockets fly through the north pole, the narat system is located there, there defense system and the like and anti-missile system, there is nothing from the south, there is simply nothing. we already have sormats, if we conduct tests through the south pole, and officially warn that this is your base, here we are declaring a natam zone , no one flies here, no one swims, there will be tests, ours will come, i don’t know, admiral gorshkov is there nearby, just watch how it flies, say, guys, shoot it down, because a serious pro system is deployed in guam, and this is a key point

in the confrontation with china, do it publicly, in response to the cries that will be heard from the same state department, ours makes a statement that in connection with the actions of the biden administration, the state department, blinkin’s statement, we unfortunately were forced to conduct this kind of tests, but we guys did not violate anything, and nothing we mean bad in addition to good, yes, good thoughts as such, it’s just some kind of warning, a leap from above, which does not violate the laws, but nevertheless the level of escalation immediately increases to several levels, maybe even, but this already worse, ghost... increased combat readiness of our nuclear forces, you remember that our supreme commander-in-chief increased combat readiness before a special operation, the panic was terrible, and this increased level did not mean anything in general, nixon, by the way, did the same thing in seventy-three, when there was a conflict in the middle east, i want it to be clear that why we are discussing, we are not trying to stand at this table to develop recommendations for

the supreme commander-in-chief, which he was. we are trying to show that russia has a spectrum opportunities, and that the high command, from my point of view, is showing reasonable restraint in the use of these opportunities, but this russian, if you like, tendency towards strategic patience, i would not recommend anyone to experience, and i don’t know where the line is beyond which this patience may run out, but again, i would not recommend anyone to conduct experiments in this area, we are leaving for advertising, we will be back

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relations, professor, i want to... ask you a question about your assessment of the current state of russian-chinese relations, obviously, at least it seems obvious to me, that development is going in the right direction, but are there any problems, are there any restrictions, how do you see this situation? you know, it seems to me that relations between china and russia have been developing quite smoothly in recent years. but this happens according to a certain reason for a reason, nothing happens without a reason, the fact is that china and russia, these two countries, our two countries, are natural partners, because on the one hand, russia is one of the largest exporters of oil, gas, and other minerals, and this is exactly what china needs now. because china is the largest

consumer of oil and gas, at the same time, china is one of the largest producers of almost everything, it is a country that is capable of producing almost everything, the industry is built in such a way that china produces everything, consumer goods, light products. many officials and especially experts in washington say that yes, of course, china wants to develop relations with russia, but china will be very

careful in this matter, because china has several. china really needs serious partners in international trade, such as the united states, such as the european union, and china, from this point of view, will not want to rock the boat too much in its relations with the collective the west, and will stop restrictions in this regard on cooperation with moscow. no, you know, i don’t really agree. in fact, many people in the west are mistaken when they say this, because they are used to thinking differently, they are not used to it, they look at everything in such a way that you are either with us or against us,

choose who you are for. but china thinks completely differently, china builds its foreign policy differently, because china considers itself one of the largest countries in the world, so, well, in the end, china almost one and a half billion people, it is one of the most state-populated countries in the world, and of course, in size too, china is not as big as russia, but still... a fairly large large country in terms of territories too, so china believes that he has a special responsibility. china plays a special role in the world, china is responsible not only... only for itself. china must feel responsible, well, as one of the great powers in the world, for others too, so it seems to me that western commentators often they say that yes, china has economic

problems, china cannot afford to sever economic ties with western countries, on the one hand yes, but on the other hand no. this is where some kind of misunderstanding occurs, the fact is that china never says: we want to sever relations with you, or we want to remove existing risks, no, on the contrary, it is the americans who do this, it is the americans and europeans who say such things, today we want to trade with you, tomorrow they impose sanctions, today china is not like that, the chinese economy is already very closely intertwined with the economies of other countries in the world, so the question here is not that someone is breaking ties with someone, that’s where

this big misunderstanding lies, in my opinion, they are very proud of how to ensure their point of view is the unprecedented unity of the collective west. in addition to nato , some new alliances and military alliances are being created, including near china. and there is clearly hope that not only the military-economic strength of the collective west, but also the unity of the collective west, in china they see the new nature of international relations, which china is going to oppose to this assertive unity of the collective

west. china, in my opinion, understands what is really happening now. and china understands perfectly well what is being done against china now, we understand what is happening with the expansion of nato, that now nato is expanding its borders into the pacific ocean, and china is surrounded by military bases, and china could respond linearly, say, we we will also build our own military bases, but no, china doesn’t do that, china is not soviet

alliance, so the competition between china and the united states, in china's view, will occur in such a way that the world will benefit from it, from china's point of view, the goal in competition with the united states is not to achieve world dominance, therefore, if you look at those publications that recently they have been coming out in china, what china is saying about the community of common destiny, and so on, the initiatives of the people's republic of china lately. and i don't know how other countries perceive this, but the message that china is trying to convey is that china is different,

another force, another power, a power of a different kind, we have achieved a lot as a country, we have our own traditions, our own strategy, and in this china is very different, and i really hope that the chinese leadership, and the chinese leadership also hopes, precisely for this is why all these statements are being made, we really hope that sooner or later everyone will understand that we are different, that we are not like that, you just talked about how the west is happy that they managed to maintain unity, to unite everyone against china, so that contain china and so on. you know, i think china is great. understands what is happening today, but china is not afraid of this, china is not afraid of this, because china does not fight with anyone, does not compete with anyone for world domination, because china believes... in multilateralism, multipolarity, we believe in a more democratic and fairer

world of tomorrow. professor, thank you very much, it was very important for us, very interesting, to understand your perspective, good luck to you in sochi. thank you, we hope to see you again in air. thank you, but now we will return again to europe, to the things that are happening around ukraine, i was greatly impressed by the recent statement of the lithuanian foreign minister, gabriel salantsberges, who stated the following: there must be a military mentality, a protective mentality, we we must be prepared for many contingencies that may arise in the current situation, but so far we are far from this. from this mentality it follows that ukraine should be in nato. it is necessary for the transatlantic alliance to expand, under its

the nuclear umbrella included countries in the gray zone. article 5 of the nato charter is to protect those countries that have been attacked because of their desire to enter the western community. i didn’t fully understand what he meant, minister, whether he only repeated in a more aggressive form nato’s line on its expansion. and that ukraine should become part of nato, if so, then this is not very new, or did he propose to make ukraine members of nato in an accelerated manner, he is talking about some states that are in the so-called gray zone, which , nevertheless, not being members of nato, should receive nato nuclear guarantees, if this happened, it seems to me that it would be very

, very serious. there is no fundamental difference, but since ukraine is already in a state of war, and other countries , the so-called gray zone, if they take a decisive step in this direction, also turns out to be just a theater of military operations, then in principle, in my opinion, there is no difference between including them directly into nato and proposing some special. no, because in any case this is just a lithuanian saying that he calls for as quickly as possible, this is really not new, to start a nuclear war armageddan between russia and nato countries, he believes that this will be the best solution, or just like many neoconservatives in america, he believes that russia will simply surrender to a nuclear duel in a critical situation, it will not agree to a nuclear duel, that is, here. it seems to me that there are no new proposals at all, because from the point of view

of the status quo, russia will respond to any such the action is not slow, very tough, and if they expect that russia will not respond at all, that is, this is what is going on, we are talking about lef, simply, then in my opinion this is a very dangerous game, i absolutely agree with you, because well, really , if this is poker, then at some point, when all parties have folded, the card may be dealt. nuclear explosion and humanity may disappear or not, i would prefer some other games, we are really talking about a big game, we are talking about chess, checkers, who should i it seems that the west wants to move to budenovtsev, there is such a game, in hospitals they usually played, when they simply hammer checkers with a click, without any rules, now whoever hits the hardest wins, just without rules, no one plays like that, just click, and it seems to me that some in the west, including their allies, such as pro-speakers in lithuania and radicals in ukraine, they just want to play this suicidal game, this is russian

roulette, if you like, that is, no one knows, they will shoot or not, well, let's spin, let's try to bring the revolver to humanity's temple, we'll spin the revolver, they'll shoot, they won't shoot, 50/50, in the same way, it seems to me that in general this is completely irresponsible, but how did they get to the point where they allow our... weakness, that's where their basis is in the military or our failure last year, especially now we have straightened out, or in the political or in our somehow insufficiently articulated forms of our foreign policy, that we threaten, but they are not afraid, we declare, they do not listen, we assert , they don’t believe, here we are, me it seems that the most constructive thing is not to be indignant at these forces in the west, which are simply pushing... us towards this global russian roulette, but to see if we have done everything to convey to the other side our

real fundamental determination, to defend our interests, ours. .. sovereignty, their independence, their existence in the end, by any means, i assure you that if they thought that we are talking about 50x50 or even 30x70, that we would use all our arsenal in a critical situation, then the conversation there was another one, they for some reason we are sure that this poker, this russian roulette will only be in our favor, has a chance to shoot, but no, here , indeed, you very correctly always ask the question on the program: what have we not completed, what have we not expressed, what we didn’t make an argument to start with us, we mean not only and not so much verbal arguments, of course, of course, of course, here we are talking about very many factors, based on the totality of these facts, their intelligence, western intelligence,

their analysts, their experts, they bow, this is the most dangerous thing that can happen, they are simply inclined that we are bluffing, that we have some very weak one... thank you very much, we are going out for advertising, but we will continue this conversation at the same time, we will discuss the strange situation inside the american congress , what this situation can lead to, let’s go to advertising. this kind, cozy, our beloved tatyana anatolyevna, tells the whole truth to the mother, as usual , they want this to be born in their countries, and not in our country it was, ugh, so be it, to each his own, but for now we we can't win we can’t even open the door there, say,

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