[000:00:00;00] who believe that the most important thing is to ensure the normal operation of the system, to prevent the closure of the government, not to resolve the situation when military assistance in ukraine is completely interrupted, without somehow understanding where this is all going, how long it will last, and more radical members of the republican faction, this very house of representatives. the democrats did not support him, the republicans in the house had a very slight advantage, eight republican parliamentarians, they gave him a ride, now it’s just happening there complete confusion, and they will have to choose a new speaker, who it will be , how long it will take, no one knows what you think, senator, about this situation, dmitry, you are right, this is

an unprecedented case. history of the american congress, when they removed the speaker of the house of representatives, well, the americans thought, not the americans, but the republicans, they thought that he had lied, colluded with the democrats in order not to stop the work of the government and continue to support ukraine, i think that it's not for him forgiven because the republicans’ cherished dream, and this is normal, is to achieve such bad conditions. for the work of the biden administration, elections are approaching, in almost a year there will be new elections for congress and the president, and i think that they just wanted to get a situation where the country would be practically paralyzed, but many things would simply stop being funded, especially since it was hanging ukraine, and of course, we could not forgive this, i think, with such a decision, he put an end to his

political career, i am sure that in 2 it won’t be assembled for years... congress and its future, it seems to me, in terms of parliament, well , as a parliamentarian, nothing, but i think that in general this is one of those, one of those situations that amazes us more and more often, well, in our memory, the american congress could unite in time if the necessary decisions needed to be made, but here there is such discord, in fact , they shifted it to a thin one, but nevertheless it happened and the most correct thing you said is now there time... speaker and it is unclear who will apply for the new speaker of the chamber representative, and when these elections are held, bidding will now begin there, who is for whom and how, so i think that a big problem has been created, dmitry, from your point of view, a military expert, this situation matters, and i will ask you more specific

question: when you are dealing with an enemy, on the one hand you don’t... want him to be - like napoleon, too smart, too talented, but too confident in himself, but on the other hand, you probably don’t want to deal with the enemy, when it is generally unclear whether their head is working or not finally, as a military expert, are you concerned about the political turmoil in washington? well, in general, i’m worried about people who think - overly emotional, people in... high positions, on whose decisions many things depend, their emotional behavior, lack of prudence, imprudence, because in my opinion, the army, politics, etc. in principle, both financial and industrial business is a business that requires a sober, cold mind, naturally, such a mess

that is happening to them, i’m in some kind of i'm worried about this, on the one hand, on the other hand, it won't have any special impact, the only positive thing, as i understand it, is that ukraine's aid has been detached from the main budget and now we'll just have to cut through this money every time, this aid is not part of the permanent revenues, as part of the implementation of individual legislative acts, in principle, this is the only plus that we can see in this situation, the second plus, well, that it will really slow down for some time, the financial assistance of the united states, it is significant, i don’t if i’m not mistaken, during the... conflicts, they, in my opinion, have already allocated almost 350 billion, this is the total allocation, of which 100-odd billion in financial assistance alone was allocated by the united states, that is, this is a large sufficient figure, that is, this the main donor of this war, in the second, if i’m not mistaken, in my opinion germany is in the third, we have the british, so this won’t change much, but on the other hand, this confusion still to some extent imposes problems for

that theory the containment i was talking about, because americans think linearly, that is, as i said at the beginning , action, a tool and the determination to use this... tool, and then the next question comes: ah, if you don’t use this tool immediately against some kind of threat or, accordingly in the near future, the threat itself loses its meaning. these are not my words, these are the words of a three-star american general. accordingly, this suggests that they think linearly. and in the case when such movements occur in their legislative branch, they inevitably are reflected in the military, in public administration, and accordingly, it is difficult to understand who to talk to, who to address this threat to, that is, that you are going beyond a certain degree, in your, your escalation, to whom to address the threat, that russia can respond, who it is

will understand from them thank you, alexander , it seems to me that, on the contrary, this is a wonderful event, i am very happy about it, the more chaos and misunderstandings there will be for our enemies, internal conflicts, internal party squabbles and problems between these two parties, and that’s all on the eve of the government shutdown, so much the better, there’s just nothing here , unlike my colleagues, i wouldn’t place any hope in the rationality of our enemy, in my opinion, they act beyond the limits of any human logic, the values ​​that they defend, they are absolutely insane , this civilization has no rational dimensions, and the greater the degree of collapse, conflict, internal degeneration, internal confrontation of all, against all, republicans, against others republicans, democrats, against those, so much the better for us, after all, this is the real enemy , here everything that i said about how vilely

they are pursuing a policy towards us, we cannot leave without alexander, i’ll tell you only here is one thing, emotionally i largely agree with you, i would still like to hope that we will have at least a rational opponent in washington, even in this there is no certainty now, it was a big game, we'll see you on the air tomorrow. hello everyone, this is a free podcast program, i am maxim toronkov, and for me personally, our most long-awaited guest, the great tatyana anatolyevna tarasova. hello,

tatyana anatolyevna. hello, maxim, thank you very much for such a presentation, i will try. thank you for honoring us with your presence and i will try today, and so will i, tatyana anatolyevna tarasova. this name, which for all, probably, our television viewers, is almost synonymous with figure skating, my name, every time it is pronounced, i think that people who they love sports and ice, they remember my father, the great coach, coaching genius, anatol vladimir. and we are trying so hard, but tatyana anatolyevna, as in some ways, naturally , i am yours, and as in something, in almost everything, i am your student, i can say that for me you are a coaching genius, you are a worthy daughter

my father, an excellent accomplished specialist , the most famous name in figure skating, i tried not to let him down, that’s what ’s happening now, all these considerations of the kamilla valieva case, statements, he said, everything their nerves are already frayed, they are considering something that does not need to be considered, because there is no business there, and the girls only ruin our lives, but the girls are the most important thing, i don’t understand what they want, of course, they want geniuses like her , because she really is a figure genius, she seems to be able to do anything, she was born with it, you can’t teach what she can do, they want it to be born in their countries, and not in our country it was, because if we have it in our country, we will always defeat them, but for now we can’t win, we still can’t let alone not win, we can’t even

open the door there, say hello to everyone , you could say hello to each other, let us have more competitions this year so that we can somehow to go through this difficult year with our eyes closed , and we will not take part, what else will they come up with for us, i don’t know, well, this is already the second season coming, this is the second season, but is there any way out, how to develop in these circumstances? athletes, us coaches, we coaches need to teach, thus develop, we all know what they are doing in the world, what we are doing, we have always been pioneers, in many forms , that’s right, we came up with new elements, we made unique programs, we took music that had never been taken before, so say, they led us, we will do this and come up with more... that an athlete needs to learn

and develop, this is a profession, yes, but now they will not go to international competitions, but there will be time, they will go, but we won’t for 10 years sit down if they don’t come up with something else, well i don’t know what else you can come up with, just cross us out altogether, well, as much as possible, then we’ll play it at our place, but will it be interesting? it has always been interesting for the new generation, but now wasn’t it interesting, the national team was skating now , and there were test skates, isn’t it interesting, but then i couldn’t sleep, and what do you remember most, what didn’t let you sleep? some kind of performances that were , oh what, and it’s still september, and no one was, don’t be shy, call everyone by their proper names, who’s in your favor... i can’t call them by their proper names, do you know

why? because it’s only september, yes, october begins, well, let’s do it differently then, who in september, at this moment was remembered by tatyana anatelevna tarasova, or maybe some kind of figure skating is better than another, we have four of them, while you're thinking, you think there will be some more, synchronized skating is still there, but well, we'll hold off, although we have it, we have it in the country, yes, what else, you want, what's with the names, well i really liked the baykovs and kozlovsky, i from them i didn’t expect such skating, why did they dominate the whole last season, won all the competitions, that’s right, but they were different, they were alive, they liked what they were doing,

they showed... everything that during this time like them, they left the coach, went to another coach, yes, to a whole team of coaches, they wanted to show it, that this is how they became, they did it, this is how they do the elements, this is how they jump, this is this is how they jump, this is how they do support, everything was like this, it was cool, well i think that anyway, without tamara nikolaovna moskvina’s baggage, this is... no, it would be impossible, i say, from tamara in her work, she is number one in the world, we don’t have coaches any other way, well, here they go so risky, very brave, i didn’t approve of it, now i looked and i think, everyone probably needs to do something of their own, somehow so that something forces you

to be better than who you were, they have this it turned out that in the neighboring duet form of figure skating, in ice dancing, you can single out someone, it happens here every year more than in the whole world in figure skating, in our dances? in our dances, yes it happens, but we don’t pretend, but a lot happens, it all has nothing to do with victories, with a new style, some kind, with amazing elements, the most complex and interesting, with programs that would stun with their , so far i don’t see this from anyone, and it’s a shame, we’re losing a little bit of dancing, but do you have some kind of recipe, maybe

there’s no way out of this current dance situation? besides work, well, he's a cheater after all, he is a talented person, he knows a lot, he himself is very interesting, but he will find something , how long will he search, i worked for 100 years, i worked for 50 years, well, it’s even inconvenient to say, but zhulin is a young man, also , here in addition to zhulin, there are also coaches, i don’t see anything new from them. i haven’t seen a couple that could fight for first place, but now the situation is such that we could immediately fight for first place. there is no one in the world, that is, you think that there is little dance in the world, yes, a reboot, yes, but they could don’t participate in this, we’ve been rebooting for a year now, let’s go to the boys, to your probably favorite species, yes, your favorite one, because after we’ve worked with

the boys, there’s no one else to work with, we have a new flying stool or the stools have not yet been born, they are trying, boys, they are trying, there are a lot of them, flying, boys, the boys are not bad, single out someone or, no, i won’t single out, there were such demonstration performances that i couldn’t single out anyone for myself, i i liked mark, yes, i liked him too, markrachuk, i think, yes, i think that he is the best, he is the best, and you cannot single out someone because there is not enough original programs, charisma, yes. there are not enough original programs, there are not enough jumps, even with simple approaches, but quadruples, even you go to training with westerners , with americans, yes, for training, and you see in training how they do quadruple, quadruple, quadruple, quadruple, quadruple, quadruple,

it’s a little different for us, we’re now preparing for thursday, now we’ll jump it, we’re all waiting, then we’ll be there now we go in, we’re going in, we run away, no, we didn’t hit, something, something seems wrong to me, but god grant that this all plays out a little in the season, and that there are quadruple jumps, easy, then it turns out 3.5 shares are hard, somehow no one showed such an act. like it was with lyoshka yagudin, i just wanted to ask about it, what was different, yes, different, it was different, because after the axel it was clear that it was necessary to set 6:00, well, some kind of super element- then, and then these quadruples that they jump, already

they’ve been jumping for 20 years, toe-loop, how many years have they been jumping it, and that you can’t still jump, toe-loop, i think your sandpiper started, and even a quadruple toe-loop, right? champion of the ninety-eighth year in nagana, quadruple, clean, superbly done quadruple lift, and then you fell in love with single skating, yes, yes , you fell in love, you fell in love like crazy, i ’ll share my observations with you a little, i’ll ask you to agree with me or disagree, because these are precisely the observations from the men's single skating programs. rentals, it seemed to me that the programs became more like show programs, and not competitive programs, that with some programs it would be difficult to qualify for gold medals at the european and world championships, this is more of a spectacle, and not a clearly planned, weighted program that

can lift you to the top pedestal level, but if in this show program... you do the technical elements perfectly, you will get absolutely amazing programs , there are no programs that would turn you on, that would captivate you, that you would be amazed, or which would make your life more interesting for these 4 and a half minutes, there are no such programs, now our most successful, probably the most successful in recent years, the most popular, for fans is women's single skating, our girls, they have been almost 10 years, almost all tournaments are won, not practically , all tournaments are won, constantly a new bar , constantly higher and higher, the fight of quadruples, the fight of original programs, rotations,

everything, don’t you think it’s already very close the ceiling, and what’s next, where already, no, there’s never a ceiling, and what’s surprising, approaching somewhere to the ceiling, why do some have rotation, and others don’t, that no one can rotate, rotate like that, so that i didn’t see this man, we haven’t seen such rotations, we have seen them, but now we don’t see them, we don’t see them, so they rotate, yes they rotate , and here are six revolutions, and there are six revolutions, and after changing legs, six revolutions, wow, can you tell me the top five moments in figure skating in the world from tatyana anatolyevna tarasova, which our young athletes now need to take and review, you know. i already need to delve into my memory, then let me call it differently, maybe some of my impressions, my

short period, and you will either agree with me, or you will smash these rentals to smithereens, so well, number one is right the first place for for me this is the lunar sanata of katya gordeeva and seryozha grinkov, yes. this is the number one rental for me in general, the production and this is the story. i agree with you

schnittke, short program, yagudina. i’m not talking about the gladiatoroni, the human-married mask, i’m just talking about schnittky, the short program. this clown is, in fact, the third place i’ll call philip condela the musketeer.

yes, all the boys were in love with this program, and we all wanted, well, we were all in love, we all wanted to be musketeers, and i’ll probably name more, so that all types, let’s get into it, in dancing, this is usova zhulin, these falling leaves or whatever their program is called, fallen leaves. they, this is absolutely for me, it seems to me that this program is not of that time, they didn’t get there on time, about 5 years ago, this would have been generally relevant , then it seems to me that it was an advance, if not, you can argue with me, no, they skated very well, i don’t know, it was an advance or no, but they, well, some style was not the same as everyone else’s in this program,

so i tell you about styles all the time, there was a style, but the women, well, i don’t even know, i for some time i haven’t watched them at all, well, i ’ll probably say balerro corolina, torvelin. torvil, but i'm not balero, i'm more barnum

like it, well, barnum, balero, everything, everything, everyone will remember this for the rest of their lives, yes , you like it, a minute on your knees, this will last a lifetime, this is also one, yes, also an innovation, about women, again, this is a bolero , for me, well , i just can’t say this, but for some reason it’s like that for me, and for you, what kind of women’s show, then of all times? carmen, yes, no , sasha cohen, she also had great times with you, she had very good performances,

but in general she’s just a final gris, human. the grand prix final, which is what you and i are all about there is a free skate in terms of energy, it’s talent, it’s talent, and why didn’t it work out, plus the program, at the olympics , why, why didn’t sasha become a champion, according to you, i left, this year i left, something broke, i don’t want to say anything good or bad right now, but it’s impossible to say anything at all to sasha, because she did absolutely everything, that’s where i looked, she ran there, well, there’s just so much from the americans, advice, i know english, not so ok, that was a bit much for me, alina,

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making money on alfabank.ru, alfabank. the best mobile bank, ordered a package of kefir, looked around, hop quar... place orders on the scooter, take part in the apartmenttek drawing , and for those who have just joined us, let me remind you that this is a free program podcast with maxim trenkov, and i don’t need to introduce the person who is visiting me today. how important is it to become namely an olympic champion in figure skating, well, that’s still less common than a world champion, right? then the olympic champion, this is a higher rank, then everyone knows the olympic champion, everyone remembers, the world champion is no longer not everyone remembers, this is the maximum that

figure skating should strive for, that’s right, these are, of course, olympic champions, they spoke out a lot about in this regard, i ’m wondering, the coach of multiple olympic champions and olympic medalists, how does he feel about the team tournament, the same olympic champions, because in a personal... tournament they can take fifteenth place, these athletes , they even know themselves that they are not like that, they are olympic champions, they are called olympic champions, well, since they are called, if there is a medal and there is a podium, they have everything honors, i am generally for these competitions, because it seems to me that this is a very interesting competition, just when i was part of the team in sochi, and for me these are completely different competitions, also very significant, interesting, responsible, but for some reason this personal medal, it’s more than everything to me, no, of course, of course, it’s like fun, well, such wonderful fun, when

we all fight together against other teams, it’s great, because it’s still a win as a team, it seems to me that it’s very interesting, well, it seems to me, it’s just another factory scary, somehow we will lose, it’s very important for people... russia won our figure skating ahead of everyone else, it wasn’t tronkov who won, it wasn’t egudin who won, but russia won, russia won, yes, i also think that this is very important, i think it’s just people too they adore, but olympic champions are still personal champions - they are olympic champions, there is nothing higher than this, higher than this there is only... in which sometimes very good athletes are better than olympic champions, but they are the kings of training, the kings

of training, ugh, so to each his own, what to do for those people who, for example, like sasha cohen, we also have an example, i just don’t want to say, so as not to remind, light some kind of fire, that is, when people are about the same. already stood on the pedestal in in the end, you ended up second, fourth, and so on, what next, where is the second chance , you laid down your life, well, so what, if you have the opportunity, you continue to put it further, and work, lay down your life in order to to win, in order to learn , so that you cannot live without it, in short, you just love what you do, you love it, you adore it. otherwise this is not life and you continue to do this further, but if you, for example, get old or that you are running out and you remain not

first, second, what to do? to look for this gold medal in the students, some in the students, who are already so full that they don’t want to, because by the end of this journey, every athlete understands that the coach’s role is very difficult, at first it’s not very much, everyone understands, but by the end they see, that they understand that it’s hard, and not every already tortured athlete, tortured, athlete, wants to go and make another man, teach and because of this he can’t sleep, because of this he has to give his life, because they just gave their life for themselves, but now we need life

giving yours to another person is impossible, it’s impossible, so it’s very rare that outstanding athletes stay and become coaches. and even less often they achieve any success later. tatyana antonevna, you counted how many olympic medals you have. honestly, it didn’t even occur to me. count, my dad said that for second places they are fired, you know, any medal, well, probably gold in this context, which is the most expensive for you , maybe the hardest, hard work, beloved, unexpected, no, there are no unexpected medals it happens, no, they don’t happen, you have to

work hard for them, you have to work. forgetting about yourself, forgetting about everything, just work, then it will be unexpected, maybe it won’t be, but it’s better that it is, of course, i just have some mixed feelings, for example, even about my work, at the olympics in beijing, i at first i was afraid to even dream that it would work out and we would be in the top three. and then we lost 60 hundredths to the chinese without a referee, that is, we are evgenia tarasov, vladimir morozov , our coaching staff and i am in the lineup and i already it became insulting, that is, at some point i already understood, and if it were our judge, and if it weren’t for these 60 hundredths, and if it weren’t in china, and we were olympic champions, and if it were dkab, that

is, you just have to don’t pay attention and do your job, do your job, always, well, no, this is a process, well, i’m not just talking about athletes, sometimes you have to force yourself, but how can i get through myself , but i would like to sleep, but i 7 in old age you should get up and go to training, invigorated with a smile, and even when you comment brilliantly figure skating, you really empathize with the athlete, this is happiness, you are this happiness, you because for me it’s such stress , well, of course, probably stress, of course, it’s impossible to behave differently, you can’t force yourself to take a breath, stand at attention, and endure, you experience, i must be

free. i have to help them, it seems to me that i am helping, and i am helping , that is, do you believe that the board coach, yes, not just any coach, skates a program with an athlete, i skate it myself, i always skated with my athletes, yes, but do you believe that you you ride with them, i don’t believe that i’m helping them, i don’t believe that i’m helping them, because i myself can’t be, i can’t, yes, i have to be here. the only time i didn’t skate a program with my athletes at the olympic games, a free program, i didn’t skate , i just stood there and admired it, i’ve never, i ’ve never experienced such, such joy that i watched, no, i was very worried, but athletes skating at the olympic games, because anything can happen, yes, but of course, but i missed it a little, looked at it from the athlete’s side, because when i was an athlete, i

... didn’t need a coach at competitions, we never drove up in the camp, we announced us, we stood up, held hands and went, because well , i thought that i have already been told everything, shown everything, and this day, on this day, i just have to go out and show what i was taught, no one will tell me any magic words, except for those moments when maybe you can’t tune in and you you need to talk to someone, something there so that you someone splashed it in the face, like anatolyevna once did, yes, platov’s wife got it, it was a shock for everyone, but he had to splash it just before going out, look, it might not have worked, it might have been the other way around , that is, it’s still a risk, well, a risk, a noble cause, but was there a moment when you were so scared, you were so

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