[000:00:00;00] he believes that he is a great sinner, that he commits crimes, that he is a lost man, this is very cool, by the way, and also, yes, he also believes that he cannot be a leader and cannot adequately come up with something, then there were moments where the book says that tom sawyer would see me now, and it seems to me that i ’m worse than tom sawyer and so on, that’s where it was in the episode, and there was another moment where that’s exactly where - so they free jim, and he said, he came up with... some kind of plan, he said that well, i’ll come up with some kind of plan now, mr. sawer will definitely come up with something better, he outlines it and he gets approval from tom sawer, and there was even a line that he’s sitting there like, oh, i didn’t expect this, it’s very funny that when tom sawer starts helping him in the case jim's release, huck stops respecting him, he says, i used to respect tom sawyer, i thought he was such a decent person, educated from a good family, and he helps me steal a negro, i

stopped respecting him. and i remembered this parallel with jack london in the novel martin eiden, the hero is ironing, he rents a room somewhere, he is perceived as, well , relatively speaking, a person of a higher class, uh, the owner of this apartment, and at some point he begins to iron, helps her to iron, she understands that he is very good at this knows how to do it, and he worked in the laundry, and when she saw this, she stopped respecting him, that is , i thought you were a gentleman, but it turns out you are one of ours. yes, and actually, this is a very funny one, that is, a person stops respecting another person, realizing that they are on equal positions, this is very funny, yes, that is, i i thought that you were socially superior, so to speak, but it turns out, brother, people change when they see who a person is, in fact, this doesn’t seem entirely correct to me, that is, they don’t look at his inner world, not at his soul , but simply on his position, on his actions, on status, yes on status, but mark

twain, it seems to me. he is a socialist and this is especially felt when two swindlers appear in huckel-berifin, who pretend to be the king and the duke, they simply fall on the neck of these jim and huck, who are traveling on a raft, starting from them drink blood, that is, they begin to throw hysterics that i am the duke, i need to serve food, and huck and jim reason like this, so that he calms down, it’s not difficult for us, please, we will serve him during meals, call him yours majesty and so on, but at some point... of course, he immediately understands that they are scammers, but at some point jim also realizes this, he says, listen, but they are neither a king nor a duke, they are similar scammers, even though 3 days of sharp eyes noticed something, but jim is a man, like a relative, but it turns out that he is a rapist, and somehow he doesn’t particularly delve into what kind of social and hierarchy people have there, and he believes at first that this is the king and the duke, but then he

shares his suspicions with ggek, and he answers : believe me, the real king and duke, they are no different from the real one, they brought themselves out in the same way , what else is wonderful about this book is that - through each page jim literally gradually turns from a thing into a person, perception, again, gekko and so on, that is, this is precisely the message of the book, i think, because well for america at that time, it was a monstrous shock that a black man , that you suddenly... the book shows how a person , who was previously read as a thing, reasons, thinks, shows some completely human things, emotions, and so on, well, when tom was wounded in the leg, g could have run away, but he stayed so that the boy could be saved , this book was so essentially a slap in the face to american society that now this book is probably banned in america now, i don’t even know, because no , not prohibited, but there

they rewrote all sorts of n-words into more politically correct ones, so that i wonder what kind of african-american they are, or something like that? i don’t know, i have a hard time imagining how jim could be called an african-american, but by the way, this is very typical of this modern leftist agenda, the struggle with form, the struggle, firstly, rewriting, yes, absolutely superfluous, absolutely unnecessary, but secondly, the fight with the appearance of a fight with form, not content, we will fight with the n-word, and the fact that it is. the book is an absolute manifesto against racism, we let's close our eyes, like, well, yes, and say that the book is wrong, that's it, yes, yes, yes, like, guys, you wanted to fight racism, in the end you cross out words from books, these are slightly different levels, yes , in fact, it’s a completely anti-russian manifesto, i want to say that i found some interesting details in the life of slaves, uh, for example, i realized that dreadlocks - it turns out, well, there

’s one black man there who sees spirits no... dreadlocks are protection from witches, now i know that. by the way, there is something in chinese mythology it’s similar, only they don’t use hair ; they insert strings, but they simply weave a huge, roughly speaking, rope out of many, many ropes, and it also protects against spirits. both books, tom soyer and hekel berifin, they are full of these superstitious signs, you can’t touch the skin of a rattlesnake, you have to spit over your shoulder, it ’s very funny, and it enriches, i would say, that is, the culture of another. follow this light, i probably won’t touch the skin of a rattlesnake, where you find it, let’s start with we’ll find this, okay, sasha, maybe you want to add something, uh, you said that mark twain, and this is a typical american

writer, one of the pillars of american literature, and how does american literature generally differ from russian literature, i have my own opinion , but i wanted to listen to yours, american literature in general, in my opinion... it ’s more travel literature, yes, road movies are like that all the time, it’s marquen and the same jack london and ambrose bierce, the greatest of whom i consider him one of the greats. american literature is, as a rule, for the most part a journey through the dark side of oneself, this is constantly visible in hemmingway, in the great, in my opinion, lovecraft, this is also there, because lovecraft, i believe, is simply the quintessential american literature, let it’s already quite tabloid, yes, quite magazine , but i believe that lovecraft simply took everything from american literature from this path through the dark sides of himself, huckelfin,

this is also where i started and the conversation, this is a dark, gloomy journey with your guide, who listens to the spirits, from a person who may have died, that is , again, huck huck is dead, i think he is dead , this is the journey of a dead man, by the way, this is exactly about souls, this is a very interesting comparison , unexpected, you won’t believe how much, when i read it, i really, i directly saw the parallels, they’re really very strong, you mean chichikov, who travels through russia and sees different characters, that’s exactly where they talk about how a person travels , and i initially, when i read dead souls, i initially thought that chichikov was a god with youth and even a character , let’s say, in dead souls there is such a character zhaglo, in finano’s gerel there is an episode where they killed the old man of boxing,

unfortunately, here i am now if you can just take a simple sketch of an american town, this box is killed by some confident, simple man with a gun and some girl is running there crying. this confident man with a gun, he reminds me very much of the same thing that was mentioned about jugglery by the way also in hecal fin here is maurice maurice gerald if i remember correctly from the headless horseman that is, this is the strength of spirit that is how he crowded just one man against a huge man says there is no man among you there is no leader among you you are a crowd but you have no the one who makes the decision. i don’t think so, well, it’s very american , i would say, i would say that it’s just a cultural manifesto, such that anyone in american culture can shoot, yes, has the right to shoot anyone who comes to his

territory, this is a very important point, why is huck such a cool guy , really cool, we understand that he is, firstly , a good person, secondly, he knows a lot, he knows how to live, he knows how to set priorities, why he listens to tom sawyer, these are homemade... boys, he’s also an absolute leader, he immediately subjugates everyone to himself, why this happens, it’s very funny, because he’s a geek who told life, who knows all this, that’s how it all works works, how it all happens, still falls for this social trick, for the status of a volume, to the status of a person who, well, he’s kind of taller than me, he’s probably like, yes, well, you need to listen to him, and respect him, respect, by the way, he also reads some books, let him in a completely delusional combination, but he throws around some names, there , king henry, marie antoinita, that is, he somehow imagines the story, after all, he was driven to a couples’ school, by the way, here’s another rather funny parallel, quite interesting, in the first

book tom tells huck some things, what he says, and what is it there, in my opinion a monologue or something else like that, and then they explain to him what these words mean, because huck is not well-read, and he doesn’t even know the alphabet, he doesn’t know how to read anything. but in the second book, on the contrary , jim asks ggek what certain words mean, what certain books mean, the writer did not notice that there is a continuation. that this is rather the evolution of huck, you can see here , because huck received, in the period from the first to the second book, he received an education and it was dawa who drove him to school, yes, yes, and that too it is clear that huck is very capable of learning, and he learns very quickly, so it’s very cool that he went from an uneducated person, on the contrary, he turns into a person who teaches uneducated people, by the way, it’s not even

a fact that he pawned the car into the text, because last year the wonderful poet dmitry vodennikov expressed the idea that it is from the writer’s mistakes that the true magic of the text is sometimes born, so perhaps this case, class, this is a very cool observation, the owners are a genius, i agree, okay, guys, thank you very much for the interesting conversation, this was a must -read podcast, i’m aglaina batnikova, my guest was... the writer and poet alexander pelevin and film actor daniil muravyov, we discussed, very interesting, we talked about tom soire and huckleberry finn, the famous novels of mark twain, was very interesting, thank you, mutually, it was great. this is a podcast of the first persons and me and its host

natalya losyeva, the person who was my guest today became an official or unofficial symbol of the pandemic, well, in any case in case, many journalists decided , his face was on billboards, on the covers of newspapers and magazines, although he is a doctor, anesthetologist-renimatologist, doctor of medical sciences, chief physician of the most famous hospital in the commune, denis protsenko. hello, denis nikolaevich, hello, natalia, well, how was it for you, seeing yourself on billboards was probably unusual, and remains unusual, because somehow medicine, by and large, does not involve these stories, in fact, this a feeling of unfamiliarity, maybe even some discomfort, it persists, how people reacted to you on the street, and now , when, when you became recognizable, well... they reacted accordingly, that it was impossible

to go anywhere because they asked for a selfie, to take photographs, i never refused , but i can’t say that it gave me pleasure, that it gave me pleasure, now from time to time they probably recognize me, fortunately, less often, now they probably still recognize me more, my colleagues, when you now remember the pandemic, that’s what you have, it’s some kind of... then you know such a slight nostalgia for a time in which there was drama and tragedy, at the same time romance or? i haven’t gotten sick yet with a shudder, no, probably, if not with me, if not with us, some kind of movie was noticed like a nightmare, yes, you know, they say that the brain tries to forget all the negative moments, for example, an unconscious comatose state , it’s the brain that blocks and doesn’t want to remember some unpleasant emotions, it’s probably the same with the story with covid, but it was scary, no, it’s probably not a feeling of fear after all, i don’t know, as we will formulate now, and you and i will formulate it precisely, no, it may

be some kind of rather a feeling of confusion, because you , especially in the first wave, do not know, do not understand, protocols are changing, world protocols are changing, such information chaos with tossing from side to side, i’m talking about drug therapy , about approaches to respiratory support , probably, if you ask me what i would like most, i would most like not to be asked a question about covid, here so globally, well, i’ll ask just a little bit, but did you, you know, have such a fear that you wouldn’t save someone important? no, by the way, there was no feeling of fear, probably for one simple reason, i was not alone in this situation, there was a whole team, a commune team, a team of moscow chief doctors, this is the entire social bloc, and you felt support, attempts to solve problems not one on one, all together, and i think this... a feeling of elbow room, that feeling of a team, it

largely determined the absence of this fear, scary, probably, when you can do something and don’t do it, then it’s probably scary, many people stayed with you after that period, someone left, you broke up with someone because you realized that this put of salt you didn’t eat the wrong thing together, but no, you know, the main core that came , it stayed, we parted ways with the guys with the doctors, with the nurses, with the medical brothers with whom we had a fixed-term contract for a temporary hospital, the main the team remained the other way around, such si says about some corporate stories there, this covid has really united the team, because well, there are always some therapists, surgeons who are a little cooler, and there is someone there, some kind of stratification between specialties, it has completely disappeared over time during covid, because

traumatologists, surgeons, anesthetologists , resuscitation specialists, therapists were all doing the same thing, this feeling of a team, it is preserved now, i when it... it’s certainly a thrill. let's remember that the commune became a hospital that reached the first front, during a pandemic, in general, contrary to its original purpose, yes , after all, you were just preparing to open the fortieth hospital as a leading clinic, and you had completely different expectations, then suddenly just like that, it was all an annoyance, you was it some kind of timelessness, or do you now understand that in the end, that for its main... profile of purpose, the fortieth hospital , on the contrary, went through some kind of hardening there, well, it seems to me that this is a very important point for me, that there is no need to delay blanket only for kommunarka, the fifty-second hospital changed its profile, the fifteenth hospital changed its profile, a number of other hospitals, they reformatted their work and

became covid hospitals, so i think it was not only the communarka that survived this, but the fact that this team was very united. the fact that we see this objectively, as if engaged in research work on corporate culture, assessing once every six months the values ​​by which the team lives with the help of special questionnaires, and we have such a whole direction, it is absolutely obvious, that this brought us together very much, today this hospital is multidisciplinary, with a fairly large oncology unit, as far as i understand , yes, it is a large hospital, more than a thousand beds, there are... we have 300 inpatient oncology beds and it was reconstructed at the end december, an outpatient oncology care center was launched, where oncology patients from the southern district from the southwestern from tinau are sent, we have this all happened

during the covid period, we launched a children's infectious diseases ward 2 years ago, non-covid 100 beds, a year ago we... opened a large perinatal center, so the hospital is developing and those trends in changes in moscow healthcare are probably illustrated in our hospital, new walls, new technologies, completing the topic of covid and that period, what is the greatest gain, what is the greatest loss, and the greatest gain is, of course , people, the greatest loss is the people whom we could not save. you have a reputation among doctors as a rather tough boss, rather merciless and uncompromising boss, at the same time they adore you, that’s the paradox, who doesn’t work with you, you’ve already formed some type of person, a psychotype, i don’t know the anthropological type of person you’re talking about,

maybe my boyfriend is with you, those who is professional about our special, and what is professional, well, they tell lies when you discuss something, the same too. it is considered, well, this is a very clear moment when i understand that what the hell are they doing, they are justifying their some mistakes, of course, of course, some, well, mistakes, some kind of laziness, maybe, but why do you think they are lying, maybe they are afraid that you will be very tough in the relationship, i don’t really understand what tough is, because if you take the formal on the other hand, the number of disciplinary orders we have from all personnel orders is some 0.0 0.0%, because from the moment the hospital was built, the team, the corporate culture that they said, we followed the path of a completely understandable, understandable story called gci , this is a management system, an incident control system, and we we continue to work, and what it seems to me that we managed to achieve is when

an employee declares this incident himself, and again this system of incidents is based on why it took off, because a person knows if he declares his problem, including, in which he is guilty, there will not be any punitive and repressive stories , and we correct mistakes through training, and i heard that you are very strict towards those who, to put it mildly, violate these behaviors and communications with patients and their relatives what you don't allow, i don't raise my voice on patient or relative, to say something rude, i’m not strict, i just can’t accept it, you know, when... you’re talking about how we’re building a patient-centric story, that the patient is at the center of all processes, but how do we you can be rude, boorish, that's one thing. but it happened that they were fired because, for example , a nurse was rude to someone or the doctor was unethical,

let’s say, no, the first time, of course not, but it’s true that there is prohibition in the commune , yes, you can’t even drink on your birthday a glass of champagne, well, it seems to me that this is not in the commune, this is in all medical institutions, dayura, this is prohibition, in the commune, i hope that this is de facto, well , because drinking is not a problem, but for this there is ... special places, at work we still come for a little something else, there is a saying among doctors , your worst patient is the doctor and the thieves, how do you treat colleagues and how do you treat celebrities, just like everyone else, this probably, our team is also so proud that we don’t differentiate, unknown patient someone brought in from somewhere on the street will receive the same medical care as a patient from loseva, for example. well, stories like the one with roman kostamarov, it’s still a test, we probably need to fight against information leakage from the staff, or even the issue

is no longer worth it, with the staff it’s not worth it, judging by the monitoring that our press service conducts , then there was virtually no leak, and when they probably call you and offer to send some patient abroad, this is a decision, the decision of relatives and patients, we are always open to a second opinion and... if a relative or the patient himself makes such a decision, i mean , you let go easily or try to convince them, tell them that the protocol is the same, for example, no, i will convince you only in one case , if i understand professionally as an anesthesiologist, resuscitator, that the risk of transportation exceeds the possible, and possible, benefits of treatment in another hospital, that is, in most cases today we can say that the quality of treatment in a communal apartment, which, as far as i know, is simply brilliantly equipped. comparable, for example, i don’t know, with germany, israel, where in china, where else are they being taken?

i think, i don’t think, i’m absolutely sure that it’s comparable not only in the commune, it’s also in a large number of moscow hospitals, i, as the chief anesthesiologist, resuscitator, i just know the approaches that exist, the way emergency medical care is now set up, how much money the moscow government has invested in medicine in various areas. in general and in particular in anestheology, resuscitation, so we monitor modern literature and the possibilities of access to it, they are in principle limitless, absolutely, and you can find access to any modern studies, meta-analyses, clinical recommendations in russian, in non-russian languages, and in fact, one from the task of our department is precisely the introduction of all these technologies into the service in e, communes in anestheology , resuscitation, and the department of surgery, which is based here, is doing the same thing

, our oncologists, therefore, resources and knowledge, i i think they are in many ways comparable and the capabilities are comparable, good, but you, as the chief anesthesiologist, resuscitator , at the same time understand that if in many countries a resuscitator is such a rich person, you know, who can afford everything, this is an elite of elites, these are the people who will receive... more than lawyers, jurists, their children have been provided for for many generations, why is it not like this with us, what should happen to us so that our brilliant doctors, capable of competing in the level of their professional knowledge with any doctor world, were also well provided for, probably not my question, after all, the competence to answer why one way or another, i think this will happen when they spend money in the field of health care, they will be an order of

magnitude greater than it is now, this will, of course, lead to an increase in the wage fund, this is a podcast of the first persons, i am its host natalya loseveva, today our guest is a doctor, resuscitator, anesthesiologist, hero of labor, doctor of medical sciences, chief physician of the famous hospital in the commune, denis nikolaevichko . profession, give me this i like it better, but when you look at a patient in intensive care, you understand whether he will survive or not, there is such observation, intuition, no, probably not, probably the external examination does not speak about the prognosis, about the current status, we still predict our outcomes are not based on a subjective view, experience of some other things, but there is a whole systematic approach , mathematically validated, various scales for assessing the state and forecasts of outcomes for these, that is, absolutely technocratic, absolutely

of course, you are generally a supporter of technology i... i believe that artificial intelligence algorithms are also probably used one way or another in the commune, well, we are approaching them, i am very, very cautious about artificial intelligence technologies at the moment, not because i deny them, we use them, ours very actively use them specialists in radiology diagnostic methods when processing computed tomography images, they train these systems to detect certain changes there, and in order to implement all this ... into clinical practice, such as any new drug drug, we didn’t invent a pill for the patient right away tomorrow, take it, no, the first phase of clinical trials is going on, the second , the third, after it approval is obtained, after even receiving permission they still conduct so-called post-clinical studies, i believe that the story with various applications with using artificial intelligence, including clinical

decision-making, before launching... they must go through the same path, and by and large, the purpose of these studies is exactly twofold: the first is evaluate the safety, secondly, evaluate the effectiveness, launch it without conducting it, without validating it and without saying that it is safe , in any case, the specialty of anesthesiology and resuscitation did not approach this, but you know, when there are discussions, various conferences at which these artificial issues are discussed. one of the most striking examples that is usually given to, well, ordinary listeners, not doctors, yes, in order to make them think a little in the direction of, let’s say, ethical complications, an example is this: a resuscitator comes to his the patient, and the artificial intelligence algorithm gives him a conclusion, having analyzed all the indicators at this moment,

for all, so to speak, known symptoms. all in all, it makes sense to disconnect this patient from life support now, because the chances of survival are scanty, his maintenance, in this status, is very expensive for clinics and healthcare, and you, as a doctor, or the doctor who is suitable , this is what is called feeling with the heart, yes, what else can you fight. into this plane differently i see that what artificial intelligence offers in this situation is called euthanasia, which is prohibited in our country , and this is, by and large, murder, we have not come close to that, in fact, in the west there is such a concept as end of life decision, in those countries where this is allowed, but this is also a serious question, a serious question of conversations with relatives, with the final

decision being made, am i ready for such a decision? most likely not, because we have quite a lot of clinical observations when, according to all prognostic scales, mathematically validated, which we use, they tell us that the risk of death is 98%, yeah, and then again , our patient survives, and today we recalled one of these patients with you, roman kostamarov, in particular, in fact, this is where i started, why i am very cautious about artificial intelligence, because there are very different patients and different patients, in general , mankind is heterogeneous there, not only by race, nationality, some other

age, concomitant diseases, that's why insert one algorithm for everyone, at the moment it seems to me that this is not... perhaps it is very risky, another thing is that probably then some subgroups of patients of the same age, identical in disease, here, here it is probably possible that - to validate, but i don’t know, we must understand perfectly well that the pneumonia of an eighty -year-old elderly patient with diabetes mellitus, with two heart attacks, with the consequences of a stroke, pneumonia there in a young athlete with the same severity will proceed completely in terms of outcome without i’ll ask an ethical question: if the patient, roman kostomarov, were not a famous legendary athlete, roman kostamarov, you would fight for him to exactly the same extent, just like that, to some kind of transcendental, incredible, or is it still this would there be, let’s say, such an honestly executed protocol? i answered your question, maybe five minutes ago, that i

hope i’m not mistaken, and that’s the message. which i lead my team and we go along with this, what doesn’t matter to us, again, thank you for this or or doesn’t matter? yes in fact, you know from the work of our mutual friend in the shock hall that the patient is not identified without a specific place of residence, that any celebrity entering the shock hall will end up on the same bed, on the same ecmo machine, and the same abl machine , we don’t have any kind of separation, i’ll just explain, nikolaevich and i have known each other for many years, and it so happened , almost by accident, that my son, a resuscitator, works for denis nikolaevich, for which, of course , i am eternally grateful, so i know there may be some kind of wrong side more than others. that’s why i allowed myself to go personal, but because you, knowing the inside out , understand perfectly well that i am absolutely not

lying about the podcasts or the first channel, and i really hope that we will be able to maintain this. god willing, what kind of tattoos do you have on your fingers? tattoos with certain meanings for me. if you tell me, no, it’s personal. well, at least what is this about? well, this is just completely about personally, it’s not directly about women or about work, but what personally is it just a woman, no, it seems to me that personally a normal person is and hobbies and something else, but there are simply things that, by the way, it seems to me connected, including the status of culture, that it is not customary to designate and talk about the signs that you inflict on yourself, and when did you get all this on? listen, well, this story has probably been going on for already... about five years , this is not the only tattoo that exists, well , of course, we won’t now ask denis nikolaevich to undress in the studio, although i think that many would like to look at it now denis nikolaevich, so to speak, in all his

tattoos, but this is not our program, but why are you bought a motorcycle, please tell me, already as a grown man, and moreover, and not just a grown man, but to those specialists who sometimes see the aftereffects of these hobbies for motorcycles, and collect the bones, the pieces of crashed motorcyclists, this man, who sees the whole unsightly underside of bikerism, suddenly buys himself a bike, what kind of story was that, well, look, life doesn’t end only with some professional stories, this is the first, second, if you follow the logic of my professional deviation, working there anestheologist, resuscitator, and seeing this wrong side, i’ll tell you honestly, then we need to stop walking the streets, because there are quite a lot of pedestrians hit by cars, we need to stop using cars, because

we also accept victims after road accidents, well, there are a lot of them anyway - a bunch of restrictions, it happened completely by accident, i understood that it was necessary, yes, that’s all medicine, medicine, it’s necessary, it’s necessary, it’s necessary. something else, in order not to burn out, not to suffocate, you need some, some thing to appear in life that would help you switched from all this, which turned you off, a very close friend of mine, we are on our way home from work, uh, he calls me, where are you, i say, i’m on my way home from work, he says, and i’m on my way to buy a motorcycle, i say, where is there- then, i say, listen, well, i’ll be passing by in 3 minutes, it just happened that we went into this store, and... at that time he had some minimal experience riding a motorcycle, i had the experience of driving a scooter, all this already happened in the fall, well, in general

, we left there having bought each other a helmet, by the helmet, and i noticed the motorcycle that was there - for sale, a secondary one, in fact, all winter as a hobby, we studied indoors three times a week in the evening from 9 to 11 in such detail, yes, of course, as a matter of fact , uh, definitely a very cool instructor in detail, and in fact , i continue to maintain these skills out of season , in winter, indoors, practicing something, firstly, in the end it turned out to be very convenient when we completely moved to a communal apartment , in the summer time, this a very convenient form of transport, because today i’m visiting you and you live in a communal apartment? no, no, i, i don’t live in a communal apartment, this is a convenient form of transport, because, well, i drove here from the communal apartment in an hour: 38, but what if i arrived on a bike in 36 minutes, so this is also

a temporary saving, second - this cleanses your brain very much, because during the period when you get on a motorcycle, you are concentrated, you understand that first of all you are having fun, you are concentrated, you reboot, because sitting in the car, you're still constantly. you think about something, you react to the phone, uh, you start answering some messages, calls, and then, in general, excuse me, these 40 minutes, i’m with myself, and do you turn on music when you’re riding a bike? outside the city, outside the city, because in the city now on a big bike with music , it’s quite difficult to move around, a small city sportster, it just doesn’t mean music to me, such a question of provocation refers to this differently, but in many ways there is such a saying bikers that loud sound

saves lives. and this is one of the events, perhaps not the most cultural in relation to interference in yes, yes to outsiders, on the other hand, as in the joke, yes, i say, i envy him, he says to his neighbors, they are forced to listen to good music, yes something like this, but in fact , if you look at it from a safety perspective, then the loud sound, it can be not only from music, if you noticed, the exhausts on motorcycles are quite loud, of course we pay attention, they are aimed at passive safety, it seems to me that this is such an excuse, no, no, this is not an excuse , this is a fact, but what kind of music to listen to, listen, i listen to absolutely different music, but it’s probably still the case, these are some things on which there i grew up with the beatles, the purple, and i can listen to modern rap music,

of course it’s all complicated... it’s packed, why? we, when we get older, we become so rigid, settle into some kind of image, when a person over 40 years old allows himself to go from extreme to extreme, because i understand that there were if you were an accountant there and you were drawn to the bike, then the resuscitator nabay is going to burn into flames. listen, i don’t know, i don’t think i’m an exception, i have a colleague, my friend, he is the head of the anesthesiology department in one of the... hospitals, he ’s a little older than me, but 5 years ago he became interested in parachuting, for example , well, about the same, about the same, and now he’s already over 200 jumps and now he’s no longer just jumping with a parachute, in a special way, he ’s such a flying squirrel, you know, so i don’t think that in this situation there’s an exception, but how did the family react, to this hobby, calmly, they’ve already taken their daughter for a ride, i’ve already taken my daughter for a ride, right?

she graduated from school not long ago, and where did she go? she studies in ronkhix, at the cool faculty, the faculty of hospitality, no, she didn’t go, in fact, in many ways i think this is a very conscious decision that was born just during the pandemic, because, well, in principle, doctors are always very they devote a lot of time to their work, a lot, we completely disappeared from the radar of the pandemic, we were completely immersed, it is very she said sensibly that dad, you know, in general, i would probably like to live for myself and for my family, they accepted it normally, and so my heart didn’t swell, when, no, absolutely, absolutely it didn’t swell and it seems to me that this it is very important that the child comes to something on his own, and does not follow some path there, you came to moscow to go to college, yes, i transferred, i transferred. in your first year

, you were born in turkmenistan, born in shkhabad, and a completely different culture, a completely different country, in which it was difficult for you to rebuild some, you know, manner communication, some kind of life, some conventions, when you came from ashgabat to moscow, there were no difficulties at all, what other country, born in 1975, until the nineties, the soviet union, the same training programs, the same government russian language, there was no discomfort at all, a fairly strong medical school , which was formed due to the fact that during the period - the great patriotic war, the second world war, there was a large, large evacuation and a large number of teaching staff from moscow st. petersburg medical universities were forced to move and were evacuated there and many stayed there because it was generally warm. fruits and so on, that's why