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[000:00:00;00] lie down, sergeant kondratyev, criminal investigation, you are under arrest, well done, gen , there is a big game on the air, today israel managed, basically... to liberate its territory from terrorists in hamas and military operations, the israeli operation, apparently, all this is moving into a new one stage, from the stage of defense of the liberation of israel, to the stage now of the new stage of the liquidation of hamas, and this, of course, will mean not only changes in how and where the fighting takes place, it also means some
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changes in the broader political context, and different countries occupy on this occasion quite different positions. let's see what president vladimir putin said about this today. unfortunately, we see a sharp deterioration of the situation in the middle east. i think many will agree with me that this is a clear example of the failure of united states policy in the middle east. who tried to monopolize the settlement, but unfortunately were not concerned with finding compromises acceptable to both sides, on the contrary, putting forward their own ideas about how this should be done, put pressure on both sides, namely both, then one then the other, but each time without taking into account the fundamental interests of the palestinian people, bearing in mind
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first of all the need for a decision by the un security council on the creation of an independent sovereign palestinian state, and a very different approach was demonstrated in in a statement today by the leaders of the united states and its major allies, here's what they said in declaring their full and unconditional support for israel. hamas has nothing to do with the palestinian dream, this movement does not offer the people palestine... nothing but more terror and bloodshed. in the coming days, we will remain united and coordinated as allies and common friends of israel to ensure that the country can defend itself and ultimately create the conditions for peace and integration in the middle east region. that is, nothing about palestinian rights, nothing about a broader settlement, just unconditional support for israel. the situation is interesting,
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complex and alarming in many ways, i don’t know anyone who could explain to us how russia's attitude towards the events taking place in the middle east is different from the deputy chairman of the federation council, konstantin kosachov, whom we have repeatedly had as a guest on our program, we are always happy to do this, he is not just the deputy chairman of the federation council, the post is very significant, but he has extensive international experience, he headed the commissions of the committee on international affairs in the state duma in the federation council, headed rossotrudnichestvo and was a very close and trusted employee evgeny maksimovich primakov. good evening , well, the situation in the middle east is really confusing, and here i kind of smile, because people are starting to show themselves more, but
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in reality there’s nothing special to smile about here. how do you see the situation, how to get out of it? well, the first situation is extremely tragic, tragic for all those who find themselves at the epicenter of this conflict, there are no signs of banality in my words, because people are really dying, blood is really being shed, hundreds, perhaps, are counted in those who find themselves in situation of hostages, but in any case, those israelis who captured hamas on the first day of this operation and i would consider your words that today the israelis were taken under control, this plot would be considered overly optimistic, it seems to me, yes, well, it is accepted as - to argue, yes, with the presenter, so i’ll hide, okay, so it seems to me that the situation is far from favorable, because the number of those
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palestinians who have now entered the territory, maybe hiding and waiting for the next opportunity to strike, is also in the dozens, and maybe hundreds, alas, but this means that this conflict has not only... a gigantic prehistory in terms of time, but also a very alarming future; for most, maybe for everyone, the events of the current escalation, the sharp unexpected escalation last saturday, turned out to be unexpected, i overslept israeli intelligence, the israeli military overslept, the israeli leadership overslept, there is probably no one to blame for the fact that this particular day... was not predicted, but the fact that escalation would occur, from my point of view , was obvious to everyone who followed development of the middle east conflict, i have my own theory , maybe not entirely scientific, why this
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happened, tell me, first, the middle east conflict, if we take the year forty-eight as a starting point, when 1948, when the first organization of united nations addressed this topic, the british shrugged off responsibility for what was then palestine, admitted that they were unable to cope with the task of separating two warring peoples, and shifted the headache to the organization of the united nations, although in fact great britain is largely responsible for what happened before 1948 on this territory, but god bless him, 75 years have passed since 1948, this is a gigantic period of time, this means, for the sake of large-scale, it boiled down to that two states will be created on this territory, israeli and
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palestinian, the israeli one, as we know, was created quite quickly, but the palestinian one has not yet been created, which is too long to hope for any positive progress, so here on our life. that all those who are at the epicenter have already lost the feeling that the situation can come into some kind of additional movement, through the political efforts of either the conflicting parties or those who act as co-sponsors of the so-called middle east peace process, that is, the feeling that that this conflict has reached such a sluggish stage, and if nothing is done, it will remain so for the next 75 years. or maybe 750, this is, from my point of view, the first and most important thing, the conflict was not essentially resolved, moreover, the people who did not get their own state, the palestinians, in general , were driven into reservations, i myself was in
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the gaza strip and physically saw with my own eyes these six-seven meter walls that surround this sector, that’s all probably , we watched films at one time, there was a famous french film about an area where criminals were isolated , before that there was an american film escape from new york, where in approximately the same way, unwanted members of society were isolated from society, so in fact, those palestinians who found themselves in the gas sector, but to a lesser extent, but almost comparable, on the west bank of the jordan river, they put you in exactly the same position, we placed you on that part of the wall, we isolated you from our loved ones and then live as you want, it is known, that the israelis left the gaza strip in terms of their military presence almost two decades ago in 2005, but they reserved the right to decide how
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the palestinians inside this reservation will live, because they left behind them the cash flows, the tax policy of supply electricity, water supply, food supply, we see how they have now instantly cut off all these... sources of life supply in the gas sector, from my point of view, a monstrous decision, because you can feel whatever way you want about hamas and its militant wing, but electricity - with water and medicine, and you cut off for all two or 3 million, different estimates of the residents of the gas sector, this is this this is a monstrous decision, no matter how to treat the situation on the merits, here is the first story, the second story from my point of view, of the three that led to this sharp escalation, it could have happened on another day of the week in another month, but it could not help but happen, so - the second story, in my opinion , is that the palestinians themselves began to experience increased
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fears that their allies in the arab world were leaving them, one after another, the americans and their allies began to shake out, pushing for the normalization of relations with israel, first it was egypt, then jordan, now the last one seemed to be saudi arabia, from on which the palestinians are financially very dependent, of course, yes, but one after another the countries began to move away from the unconditional, unconditional position, since in 75 years, so to speak, nothing more terrible has happened than the wars of sixty-seven and seventy -three, well let's try to live like this in the future, and to this was added a large number of rather strange initiatives from the americans, well , let's remember the so-called big deal, which shocked the previous president trump for quite a long time, and they say that now
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so he will decide everything right away, but what was behind this big deal, behind this plan, to offer the palestinians to renounce their demands for their own statehood, in exchange for economic, social, humanitarian, any other help, that is, we will feed you , we will feed you contain, but stop itching that you want to have your own state, this big trump deal was categorically rejected, there in the same series it was announced, it was announced, but then rejected, it did not consist. was the famous agreement of abraham 2020, which included several regional countries, but again behind the backs of the palestinians, and i am sure that the palestinians, the moderate part, on the west bank, fatf and hamas, had this concern that a little more and we will remain alone, we will be left alone, face to face with this west, this is the second, they began to understand that time is working against them, well, finally, these circumstances are the most important from my point of view,
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we see how hamas is now fighting using the most modern types of weapons, it seems the israelis have cleared out, the gaza sector at one time, so to speak, they did not allow weapons there, they pulled out weapons from there that had been preserved from former times, suddenly now, during this breakthrough , it turns out that hamas is armed to the teeth, where did the weapons come from, well, the americans themselves talk about it they ask questions, probably a significant part... from afghanistan once, from ukraine twice , these are two sources that are not controlled by the respective states, and these weapons go to black markets and naturally pop up in conflict zones, unfortunately, this conflict, the middle east conflict is only the first demonstration to the international community of the extreme danger of a situation when there are completely uncontrolled flows of weapons, again from the west into these zones... of the conflict in afghanistan to ukraine, in order to then end up unknown where and
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unknown how to be used, here are three of these circumstances: general fatigue , the feeling that time is running out , allies are leaving, and the illusion that now it is possible to deal a crushing blow to israel, because we are armed to the teeth, an illusion, but nevertheless, it also worked, alas, we see the situation, the tragic situation that we see, i basically agree with you, or rather, i agree with... what you said, but i have a couple of other observations, and i will be interested in your reaction. the first observation is that hamas was very popular, including in the west bank, they won the elections there, but the israeli government, in general, not without, if you like, approval and even prodding from the united states. there hamas
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was removed from power, and more moderate elements remained there on the western coast, and hamas, they were locked in gas, and this, of course, did not in any way contribute to the fact that they had more moderate approaches and high hopes for some peaceful means of regulation, they let hamas stew in this locked the israeli pan, of course, became an organization widely based on terrorist methods. we have all seen these terrible images that hamas militants staged in israel, you can’t erase the word from this song. the second thing, of course, it seems to me, is that netanyahu believed that
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identity is less important for gaza residents. than so that they have a minimum of comfort, he allowed them to trade, he allowed them to open a seaport, and he began to give them permission to work in israel and so they got the feeling from the netanyahu government that, in general, hamas is comfortable enough to not to take such extreme measures, our former compatriot, yegidor... luberman , you probably remember, was at one time the minister of defense of israel, the minister of foreign affairs, the deputy prime minister, he retired in the nineteenth year, because he i just said that we...' on the one hand, we are israelis, on the one hand we put a lot of pressure on the gases, we isolate hamas, on the other hand we don’t finish them off, we allow them to become richer, stronger, accumulate weapons
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and this will not end with anything good, well, lieberman resigned, and we see what happened , well, finally, the last thing, and i’m very interested in your reaction here, of course, the states, of course, i blame the united states, which is not the case in general, because they claim to the role of the world's hegemon, but for a specific reason. it seems to me that the united states , specifically the biden administration, is so carried away by its struggle for ukraine that they do not have any core left that would allow them to pay due attention to other world issues. and the cia, of course, had all the technical capabilities to monitor what was happening in gaza, to monitor the evolution of hamas , but they had all the capabilities, for some reason they didn’t do this, they didn’t go to the president and didn’t tell about the problems, but i know why they
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they didn’t tell, or i think, i know, because in any bureaucratic system. it is important not only what intelligence can find out, but what is important is what intelligence considers a priority , what they will report to senior management, and they often like to report to the cia to senior management, not what is important for the state, but what is important for their careers , and for their careers it was necessary to focus on ukraine, and not on what was happening in gas, so it seems to me that they overlooked what, in general, could have been noticed, what do you think? a few comments, i’ll start with what the governance structure of palestinian society looks like now, well, once again for those who are not very devoted to the details,
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territorially palestinian society is divided into two segments, yes, this is the gaza strip, on the one hand, the western bank of the river and indeed the moderate wing of the palestinian leadership, a political structure called fatah, in ramala in the west bank, really constantly tried to restrain the ambitions of hamas, it basically competed with it for the sympathy of the palestinians, she offered an alternative political way of settlement, but her argumentation increasingly sagged in its persuasiveness, because a political settlement did not come. hamas in the gaza strip, it was also heterogeneous. why? why, say, the leaders of hamas, among other things, came to moscow and did this not so long ago , because inside hamas there was, and still exists, a political structure with which it is quite possible to talk, and militants with whom we have never
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talked and are not going to talk . so, the hopes of both the israelis, led by mr. netanyahu, and their allies to suppress the palestinians’ struggle for self-determination and their own statehood, these are the hopes of this group of, let’s say, western or pro-western politicians, they were that hamas militants would gradually lose their influence and move to more balanced political positions, and hamas as a whole will lose its influence and move to even more political positions of fatah, but it turned out straight. exactly the opposite, all these years fatah radicalized, he moved closer and closer to positions, agreeing that in the struggle we will gain our right and we need to take up arms, further radicalization took place within hamas, which led to what we saw, now about
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what what the israelis did or didn’t do on the one hand, the westerners on the other, according to the israelis , it seems to me that they had a bad day... excessive self-confidence played a role, they thought that indeed, on the one hand, these handouts to the palestinians that you are talking about now they said, on the other hand, by building up their own military power, they will continue to keep the situation under control , at one time, as chairman of a committee, in the federation council, and then in the state duma, i communicated very closely with the then chairman of the international affairs committee of the israeli knesset, his name was, he is alive until now, his name was... and before that he headed this counter-terrorist organization of all of israel, that is, a man absolutely, so to speak, with practical skills, let's say, and he told me about what... what height israel's anti-terrorism technologies have been achieved, in particular, he told me, i think he was not exaggerating, about the following,
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when we receive information that in such and such a house in the gaza strip militants have gathered there and we know that they are there inside they are there they are mounting, so to speak, some kind of homemade bomb, the first thing we do is throw a tiny explosive device into this house through the chimney, which does not explode... this house, which explodes in the fireplace, relatively speaking, or in the stove, yes, just so to speak blowing the ashes around walls, and we thus warn these guys gathered that we see them, that we know about them, and that if they don’t stop twisting these wires together now, so to speak, the next one will be a bomb, so to speak, more serious more destructive power, yes, mr. dikhtor admitted, this is a very expensive pleasure, because first of all to make such a tiny bomb, and then to get it into the pipe, so to speak, is even more expensive than to shake it off, excuse the expression with a blank, but they did it they were sure
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the fact that they control the whole situation at the level , so to speak, of chimneys in separate buildings, we see that this is absolutely not the case, self-confidence failed and the first day was catastrophic in terms of confirmation, or rather refutation of the thesis that the israeli army is almost the most powerful army, the army in the world, and finally, what they were doing at that moment, or rather not doing... uh, the western ones - let's remember that at one time, in our memory, it was created this format like the middle east quartet with the participation of our country, with the participation of the americans and the european union, its work has been frozen in recent years on the initiative of the westerners, on the initiative of the americans, the inclusion of the international community ceased, and russia here, well, had completely unique opportunities to promote a settlement, because... unlike the usa, unlike the europeans, we equally had authority and trust on both sides, we supported and continue
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to support direct and completely normal contacts with the leadership of palestine in all its guises, and with the leadership of israel , the unique role of russia, which has been in demand all this time in the middle east , starting, by the way, from the time of yevgeny maksimovich primakov, i will quite rightly mention. the westerners ruined this negotiation process, they said: no , now only we will deal with this history, and it will depend on us where, where the development of events will go, there was such an american diplomat at the beginning of the 10th century, i remember the last name, the name was either jack or is it possible john? check, so he once said a wonderful thing, the party that takes credit for the rain should be responsible for the drought. so now the western party, which all this time has arrogated to itself the right to resolve international conflicts in accordance with
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its own understanding of what is good and what is bad, now, of course, must take responsibility for that failure, as vladimir vladimirovich absolutely correctly characterized this situation putin, for the failure of the middle east policy of the united states and its allies, which we are all observing now and from which , unfortunately, people continue to die. and the last question: do you agree that if the united states , so to speak, had taken a different path and had not made the fight against russia the organizing principle of american foreign policy, if the relations between moscow and washington would have been far from the best , but at least they would allow some things to be discussed, they would leave the possibility of how... do you agree that if there was this
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minimum of common sense on the part biden administration, this crisis that we are now seeing between israel and hamas, this crisis would not have happened, yes, of course, i agree, i will explain with an example, before 2014, before the well-known events in crimea, the subsequent cooling of relations between russia and the west, russia together with the west . in this case, with the countries of the european union , it was developing a very advanced technology for remote detection of explosives on the bodies of suicide bombers, so as not to drive them through the frame, so to speak, but relatively speaking, in a crowd moving along the street, the technology would be fantastic, part of the knowledge, part of the know-how was in our hands, part of the know-how was in the hands of the westerners , it was necessary to unite, and we implemented this project quite progressively, the fourteenth year is interrupted: uh, all cooperation in the security sphere, including on anti-terrorism , including it was interrupted due to this project, on the initiative
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of westerners, and now , after 9 years, humanity does not have... this technology, i give this as an example, if there was this technology, if there were other technologies that would make it possible to effectively combat terrorism as a phenomenon, without dividing terrorists into friends and foes, and if there was a joint will to bring the conflicting parties, be it in this region or in any other region, together and sit together negotiation table, of course, everything would have been different, and here , on the same ukrainian front, we understand perfectly well that the situation could, with the subjunctive mood, could have developed according to completely different scenarios in the fourteenth, fifteenth, twenty in the second year, in the twenties, it may still develop according to other scenarios, if this completely manic fixation of the westerners disappears on containing russia by any means and through this ensuring their dominance in the world, from which, due to completely objective circumstances, they
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the right to say, tinkov, bank of the year in russia, in there is a big game on air, stubborn battles continue between israel and hamas, but of course, of a somewhat different nature. than before, the main hamas units on israeli territory were either destroyed or were squeezed out of gaza , israeli aviation is becoming more and more active, and we see pictures, videos from different areas of gaza that were bombed, in general, frankly speaking, pictures depressing, how terrible the pictures were... the pictures of what is happening
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in gas, they are also very very serious, and i don’t really understand what these blows give to israel from a military point of view, and i don’t really know how israel even sees its future. operation in gas in this very densely populated area, where residential areas are often a haven for terrorists. lieutenant general buzhinsky, professor at the higher school of economics, what do you think? you know, dmitry, from a military point of view , these, well, these are the so-called carpet bombings, carpet bombings in dense urban areas, but we must not forget, but it’s not without reason that they say that gas... this is almost the most populated place on earth in a very small limited space, the numbers are different, which i heard, well, the latest ones are
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2608 2,680,000, well, someone even calls 2,800, that is, a lot of people, very dense buildings, these bombings, of course, they don’t have any special military meaning, but purely psychologically... of course, well, you can , of course, turn gas into cancer, what the americans did, they actually leveled it, in iraq, yes, when they actually razed it to the ground, there not one whole building left, if israel’s goal is also so that not a single building remains in the gas, then it is clear that they can do this with complete air superiority, while naturally hamas does not have any aviation, not even ... besides, israel is their defense they also don’t have air defense, so israel can do
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whatever it wants from the air there, the final goal, you know, is not very clear, they, israel proclaimed that gaza, that is, hamas in gaza, will be completely destroyed, but still- after all, hamas has about 200 fighters, sympathizers, probably also a sufficient amount , arrange an exodus from gas to egypt, i’m not sure that egypt is ready to accept such a number of inhabitants of gaza, israel can theoretically occupy gas, but it will be very expensive, so return to the state where israel is completely, so to speak , controlled gaza, that’s also possible, but then you need to leave the army there, or, if you don’t leave the army to make do with only police forces, it is necessary that...
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indeed, all hamas militants disappeared from there, or moved somewhere or were physically destroyed, so for now, from a military point of view, i don’t really understand what israel wants to achieve , the fact that they will start a ground operation, they have already concentrated a group, there are several armored brigades, artillery brigades, well, artillery is also not very clear, because, well, adding to the air strikes the work of artillery on residential buildings, well, i also don’t see any military sense, general, so let’s take the israeli position for a second, you will agree that israel has every reason to insist on the fighting force of hamass was completely eliminated, i completely agree with this, and another thing is that to achieve this goal in
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conditions, you know, in order to eliminate 20,000 people, you need to have either very significant help from the local population, well, roughly speaking so that they hand over these people and say, this help is not there, this help is not there, or we need to really completely move on to the expulsion of the population from this, from this populated area, but it’s very difficult to do a targeted cleaning, but targeted, how can you targeted clean 20,000 people, if they are dissolved in these 2 million local residents, and now to identify agentless work, without very well-established, precisely intelligence work, when you will simply be pointed at these people, because they may lead you to the fact that
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there is someone in this building then he lives, but firstly, it’s not a fact that when you strike, this person will be there, and secondly, destroying a multi-story building in order to destroy one or two militants there is of course also not very good, let’s say yes, rationally, so the task before the israelis stand, it is correct, that is, the task is defined quite clearly. another thing is that the ways to achieve it still seem to me very difficult to implement, at least in the short term. thank you, oleg karpovich, vice-rector of the diplomatic academy. i have a question for you related to your article in the news today, a very strong article, where you talk about the american one. about
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american claims to hegemony after the cold war, as one important factor that contributed to these tragic events between israel and hamas. the united states is still trying to play a leading role in resolving this crisis, naturally with its main european allies. as for. us contacts in connection with the escalation of the situation in the middle east are possible if appropriate interest is shown, deputy foreign minister of the russian federation rebkov said on tuesday. as of this morning, there are no contacts, but it is not possible if there is interest on both sides, but it’s not for me
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to tell you. that sergei rebkov is very experienced diplomat and worked for a long time in the united states as an adviser-envoy, deputy head of the russian mission, although he worked at a time when, after all, in the administration, then it was the junior administration, after all, more sensible people worked, if we proceed from that russia is ready to negotiate on this matter, that this readiness will once again be ignored, because you think the united states and european allies working with israel, how can they help israel resolve this crisis, given the situation, if russia is excluded from this process, and even more so iran is excluded from
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this process, the whole point is that indeed, the fact that we have now witnessed such a terrible tragedy in the middle east is as the president of the russian federation said today at a meeting with the minister of iraq , these are the consequences of american policy, that is, today the president has already assessed this, precisely these terrible events, this tragedy that happened in the middle east. as for how to resolve this crisis, how to put an end to it, of course, sergeyevich lavrov has also already said that there must certainly be negotiations, issues must be resolved at the negotiating table , because other options will only mean additional victims on both sides, there will be lost lives, there will be misfortune that will come to families on both sides , today a very good article
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was published, which was written by sergovich lavrov, it reveals exactly the reasons that lead to this kind of events, in great detail on... several pages sich discusses how we got the results today, this is, of course, the policy of the united states, which tried to tell us that security should be indivisible, in ninety-seven, from ninety -seven, more precisely until 2010, we signed a huge number of various kinds of acts that pushed us to , that to establish contacts with our foreign western partners, first of all, yes, but unfortunately, it ended, you know, with a special military operation, since in twenty, in 2021, our country proposed signing an agreement both with nato,
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so with the united states of america, and we already know how it ended, so this is the lack of constructivism in american politics, the lack of desire to negotiate, to seek a balance of interests and... biden, so what is happening now in the middle east is really a natural effect from the entire previous policy of the united states of america, i have no doubt, well, i don’t know what to do in this situation, you mentioned the minister of foreign affairs of russia, he knows how few people united states. and i remember my conversations with him in the late nineties, and he differed favorably from many leaders of russian diplomacy in that he not only had greater realism about opportunities with america, but you know, he had such, i would
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say , a healthy, slightly ironic tone, in response to the americans, he was not afraid of them as a soviet, excuse me, russian, representative to the un, and to answer them when it was necessary with the same coin, but now you mentioned his article, yes, the problem is v that, and he talks about this all the time, that the most reasonable, and if you want, well, such statements from russia, from the position of readiness to show restraint, despite the pressure on... moscow, all this is ignored, absolutely, this is how you can trying to find a diplomatic solution to this crisis in a situation where washington makes excluding
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russia from the diplomatic process a higher priority than resolving the crisis, as you see, here is a way out of this deadlock, i know, i believe that there are still different... .methods and various formulas solutions to this kind of crisis situations, and i am sure that the experience of knowledge of our diplomats, as well as the work of our diplomats in various forms of international interaction, still gives me hope that a solution will be found, since our diplomatic school , it has very old, very good traditions that allowed us to solve, in historical retrospect, very complex, very complicated, international problems, as for something else, i wanted
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to add a little. your thoughts, why are they happening? now there are events when there is no trust between, say, the american administration and the leadership of our country, you know , in my opinion, by the way, lavov’s article indicates this, that after all, there used to be trust, there was a value of the spoken word, the value the agreements, sorry, interrupted, and there was no personal hostility at the human level, that is, you know, in fact there was. such life situations when diplomats arguing at the negotiating table, when the negotiations ended, they stood up and each other's hands and even sometimes allowed themselves some liberties related to the fact that they could drink a glass together, so to speak, whiskey or whatever there was a program with the granddaughter of ambassador dabrynin ekaterina, she showed photographs of how she, as a little girl, sat in the president's chair behind oval table in the white house, and at the same time nixon. dobrynin, separately, each, wrote in their memoirs how at that time
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there were the most heated arguments between them, they did not boob, i don’t know, that’s how this can be restored now, i just don’t know, you know, well, in my opinion the view that there is some kind of crisis, let’s say, of the political leadership in a number of countries, it is making itself felt, that is, in the political leadership of western countries, there are now people who... it is very difficult to negotiate, first of all, with the president of our country . we know the story when macron conducted, let’s say, closed negotiations with our president, then he dumped it all, so to speak, laid it all out in the press, so to speak, made it public, well, in fact, it’s probably very unethical when leaders such serious states let's just say that they do not behave entirely ethically towards their counterparties and i... am sure that this mistrust that has now acquired, well, simply colossal forms between
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process that is happening now around gaza, we talked, naturally, about a clash... and hamas, but there is one more very important player, iran, let's see what the supreme leader of iran, ayatola khamenei, said about iran's position regarding the conflict. we kiss the hands and hands of the inventive, skillful organizers of the attack of the palestinian youth, but those who say that the recent great events were not the work of the palestinians are giving an incorrect assessment. that is , again, the leader of iran said two things at the same time: we admire what hamas is doing, but it is not our doing. i would like to remind you that just recently the united states unfrozen $6 billion of iranian assets, and this
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did to achieve the release of some prisoners in iran, but no one in the biden administration hid that this was an attempt to drag iran to the side of the united states and alienate iran, first of all. from russia, so that iran would be less willing to help russia in the fight in ukraine. this is the same mistake that israel made in relation to hamas, they thought that they could be fed a little, they would become tame, but in the biden administration, they thought that for 6 billion dollars iran would be ready, but if not go to forwarder of american foreign policy, then at least the sea, the eastern mediterranean, the american
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squadron, led by the aircraft carrier gerald ford, several warships, including a missile cruiser, sms, hundreds of cruise missiles, and so on and so forth, this is how we should consider some american ones. maneuvers to remind that they are still the most important, or are we talking about the fact that these forces can actually be used primarily against iran if iran helps hamas? you know, dmitry, well, first of all, what’s there an aircraft carrier, and this is an aircraft carrier group, yes, there are about 10-15 ships of various classes, this is a significant force, of this class there are 70-75 aircraft on board, cruise missiles, that is , this is a very decent strike power, and if
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the americans decide to intervene in this conflict directly, then of course, this aircraft carrier group is the main means of conducting armed struggle, another thing is that at the moment this is most likely the case, such psychological pressure on... first of all, of course, on iran, it is unlikely, unlikely whether, on hamas, because to use carrier-based aircraft against hamas, and to add, we have enough of our own aircraft, and their striking power is also enough, another thing is that i’m khmni’s statement, of course, from my point of view he is a little disingenuous, i think that it’s unlikely that all of this planned. exclusively by palestinians, exclusively by hamas, i think that the iranians helped, another thing is that this is not advertised,

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