[000:00:00;00] so with history it’s the same thing, it means i read some crazy stuff on the internet and now you already have secret knowledge , you start arguing with professionals, you have no idea , i recently published a lecture, well, it would seem that 25.50 years have passed there, what kind of pugachev fan club was discovered, so it it turns out that he is pyotr fedorovich. this is all romanov ’s falsification, he is pyotr fedorovich, and there was a tartaria, it turns out that these are thousands of comments, tartaria, and you are deceiving us, and the great tartaria is led by a great one, which means pugachev’s family, then there are a lot of options for where he comes from, and yes, well, nosovsky and fomenko

are immortal. well, any first-year faculty member can only place his hands, it’s impossible to argue with that, you see, the earth, as you know, elephants, elephants on a turtle, further down the list, this is the problem, this is the problem, the problem is that history textbooks are very important, i was recently asked , we are now working on new history textbooks for school, or updated ones, i was recently asked how important it is in the internet era to there were textbooks in general, because everything can be found out on the internet, and you can even see a doctor easily, but the main thing is not to get to such a doctor, just for an appointment, and i say, you know, in our time of the internet, the importance of a school textbook has increased a thousandfold, because it should be that truth, that guiding thread, holding on to which you will not drown

in the sea of ​​this fornication, with speculation, interpretation , dialogization, verified, reliable, something with which the overwhelming majority of the scientific community agrees, at the moment, then , what a student should try to perceive as repeatedly verified information, it turns out that on the one hand there is strictly historical knowledge, academic, if you like, based on working with facts, with sources, and so on. and there is this free spirit, which is inevitably shrouded in darkness or fog of arbitrary, false interpretations, and on the other hand, this very academic knowledge is designed for a very narrow circle of people, can we say that the horizon of addressing, addressing such academic works, it enough

narrow, well, that’s why there are popularizers, here are popularizers who present historical knowledge in normal human language, of course, with various kinds of comparisons with modern times, because when talking about an event, it’s very important to give examples of what a person is with comes across today, he says, look, then it’s easier to remember, based on the principle of analogy, well, you must have an iceberg in your head, an iceberg for preparing sources that do not need to be demonstrated, all sorts of good popularizers - there must be a very educated person, well, of course, otherwise it will work out. superficial, shallow, essential, this is a significant story, well, in general, an old question, a popularizer should be such a great scientist, a classic, endowed with degrees, or it could be such a professional popularizer, in physics, it seems to me, or in mathematics, very often such people who manage to convey certain things to a wide audience become very great scientists,

academician kolmagrov, for example, a mathematician of the century, kapitsa, yes, today kovalchuk is a wonderful popularization program, yes, mikhail valentinovich, so no, it simply depends on the ability to speak and convey the truth in simple language, but in such complex sciences, technical, exact sciences, it’s just a person who is not immersed in the topic, so he is very easy it can float, but in the humanities it’s a little easier, because the circle of people who understand this matter is wider, and the number of popularizers of history, in my opinion, thank god, we have more than popularizers of nuclear physics later it’s also very important to love the subject, it’s hard to talk about something if you don’t like it, if you don’t love it, if you don’t empathize with the hero, if you don’t live with them with their hero or authenticity, after all, because lydia

yacolina gensburg, a great philologist, a student of tenyanov, said this, i remember this phrase, that not only... a zoologist is not obliged to love ciliates, but even a botanist should not love flowers, well, a zoologist and a botanist, let them love what they want, and a historian must love the heroes he talks about, because... to live by those circumstances, to think as they do, to reflect, to empathize as they do, without this there will be no certainty, but there will be such a look down, but we know the post-truth, well, in fact, i propose in my books in my lectures there, just how much you can try to stand next to people. who created history, this is a very important, important thing, well, oddly enough, i also do this, in the history of literature, i say, well, imagine that dostoevsky published the novel poor people in 1946, yes,

it’s early, but that’s all -still great, we say the same text, absolutely the same letters, only the old spelling, but we know that this is the author of the crime, the punishment, we can’t forget this, and the karamazov brothers, in 1946, didn’t know who this young man was, the same . text, but a completely different perception, we must turn it off, this is a very pleasant consonance, well , now i traditionally, now i will turn to russian lyrics, in the middle of our releases, there is one of three actions, this is either a showing of an old book from my own library, or this is a quote from a classic, or a russian lyric, here now it will be russian poetry, i will read one of the poems of georgy ivanov , whom i rate very highly, i consider him a very great russian... poet, but it has something to do with our topic, because leondiev and tyuchev, konstantin nikolaevich are mentioned here leontyev, a famous thinker, philosopher, diplomat, monk, writer, well, tyuchegov doesn’t need to be introduced,

and here in the middle there is such a hidden quote from the stranger blok, which then becomes a quoted quotation, the battle of thermopylae is mentioned, well, that’s also in general a well-known fact, this is... a century bc, 300 spartans, a narrow passage to mainland greece, where these 300 heroes died, let's read this poem, the path under the thermopylae is clear on all four sides, and greece blooms with graves, as if not there was a war, and we, leontya and tyucheva, are chaotic, we have never known better than the idle life of the bush, we amuse ourselves with self-deceptions , spring indulges us, passing among the sober

drunks, she is a stranger, sits by the window, breathing in perfumes and fogs, she sits at windows, straight quote from the block, she can see a distant country beyond the seas and oceans, there are christmas trees, hiding a snowy prison and the blue komsomol girls are swimming in the crimea, they are diving over the graves, with poetry on one side, the groom on the other, and leonidas under the thermopylae, of course, die for them , this is an amazing poem , because it first splits a single world, yes, georgy ivanov from his migrant distance watches this strange country, which seems to him a prison, there is a christmas... fir trees, komsomol members dive into the crimea, this very rich places, where there were only the noblest people, imperial dachas, but suddenly, the ending says that there is no other russia, yes, there is only one russia, so everything is completely turned upside down, the path under

the thermopylae is clear, the past history removes the contradictions, and i i would call this poem one of the examples of how in literature historical methodology is also refracted and gives very... important truths, no matter how alien or distant some power, some country may seem to you, if this is your homeland, if this is your home country, if it’s just russia or england for someone, or germany, then it cannot be replaced by anything, no ghost, no more befitting state, it would seem, well, from this... form, let’s return to our conversation again, vladimirovich, let’s now talk about the triple miracle, which you describe in the preface, for this book, let’s demonstrate it, it’s called

stories from russian history of the 16th century, that’s what you mean when you talk about the three miracles that gave birth to this book, i’m quite randomly recorded a series, small lectures on the internet, popular about history, which i called stories from russian history, because this is not academic science, this is popularization. these lectures, unexpectedly, miracle number one, sold out quite well on the internet, with millions of views ; after that, the management of the culture channel approached me and offered to show them on culture, but usually it happens exactly the opposite; television is filmed , something for television, then, well, from internet there is almost an amateur program

they took it and showed it on central television, this is also a miracle, this is number two, it goes well, but you can write it all down and we will publish it as a book, i say, but it will not be one book, because there are many lectures, it will be a series, so they said, and it’s great, the series is better than a full-length film, it’s great, that’s why this is only the first episode, there’s more planned , a sequel will be released in a couple of weeks, these are literary lectures, the lectures are also not... ordinary, because i’m speaking without preparation, i have a plan, i have there is a plan, the numbers are everything, but starting a lecture, i don’t know its duration, or how it will end, to be honest, i often don’t even know what i’m going to say in the middle, because there is only a backbone on which some thoughts, ideas , facts popping up in your head, it’s not like reading from a monitor in such a television news format, right? this turns out to be a conversation with the viewer, it was unexpected for me,

because well, one would think that vladimirovich midinsky, well , is presenting some kind of concept, yes, no, no concept no, i have a concept, there is only one goal, i want, i tell stories that seem interesting and instructive to me, and then you think for yourself, i just want it to be interesting for you, so that it will cause something in you, you might want to watch a movie on this topic. well, or at least sit down there, open the computer and find out something in more detail about our heroes, which is why, again, i don’t talk there about the conflict between the productive forces, industrial relations, what we were taught here is this there is no dialectical materialism, well, there is no theory of mentality, there are not any theories at all, people who made stories, that is, this is such a personified history, but simply through them.

the history is not of the russian state, not of the russian people, as nikolai alekseevich had a field, a counterweight to karamzen, yes , as we know, not karamzin, not his modern followers who write great, so to speak, i treat with a sober view of their own capabilities and temporary opportunities as well, so i don’t try to attach this the format is no scientific or academic monograph, so there are no links to sources, because why isn’t it scientific? yeah, i’m not polemicizing with any of the modern authors, although if a professional historian on the topic reads my books, he actually has nothing new except the author’s point of view, that is, it’s not for him, in fact, yes, he will read the author’s point of view, that’s why that of course, some heroes are more attractive to me, i like potemkin, but i don’t like pugachev, but when i wrote about the decembrists, it will be in third volume, i was preparing a lecture, i planned one lecture, i had one view on the decembrists, it turned out that i broke

my leg for almost a month, i sat at home for a month, i had time, instead of one lecture on the decembrists i got three, i read many sources, and my view of them changed several times, how interesting it is, like this, it turned out to be such an interesting and contradictory phenomenon, these are such different people, trying to judge them by just one tracing paper, as it was in the soviet years, heroes, star happiness, in the pre-soviet years in the imperial years, these were state criminals, in the post-soviet years, this is now a new fashionable topic, that these are such rebels, jacobins, anti-statists, god forbid, so to speak, such a maidan square is a maidan, on the one hand lenin is the first period of the liberation movement, which they just did not understand that there was no dictatorship of the proletariat, in general everyone was right and well, hercyn woke up. it would be better if he slept, but all these

points of view, they are so, they make the world black and white, yeah, in fact, everything is much more complicated, everything must be taken into account , after all, nevertheless, well, when - scientists from the background approach this, i remember how in soviet times there was a debate about what to call this decembrist something , yes, an uprising or a riot or a performance, a performance , i don’t remember the performance, it’s not clear what, that is, this is an important story, very interesting, very difficult, and, as always in real history, very contradictory. and the history of the decembrists is certainly a history of both the naivety of romanticism and cruelty. and indifference to to their own soldiers, whom they brought to the square or raised there in the chernikov province and - some sincere impulse, a desire to do better and cynicism, careerism, which sometimes brought the desire to do better to totalitarian things possible there,

as if yes, yes, this everything is so complicated, and this makes it interesting, i really like the cover, it ’s something i came up with myself, right? well , a professional artist did it the way i wanted, i couldn’t do it so beautifully, but i did everything myself, numbers, letters, so it will be, yes, yes, yes, fonts, of course, yes, yes, yes, that’s all, then there will be the next covers , there will be new heroes, the second one, this is the chronology or types of the hero, because here, here are the emperors, 18th century, yes, faces , emperors, the second house will be the 16th century generals, it is already. chat, the third volume will be the 19th century, emperors, then there will be the 19th century generals, then there will probably be scientists, public figures , poets, a separate volume will be peter i, you know, i have my first, a separate volume, excuse me, i’m interrupting you, because how curious all this is,

my first profession is a scientific editor, and also a literary editor, so i can criticize a little, well, this principle is not clear, yes, the first book is only on the fourth page of the cover, but the fact that this is exactly this is not very clear, it could be easily explained , will be on the store shelf, when there are them, they will stand in a row, then everything will be clear, faces will change, probably, this will probably happen, please tell me, the 16th century is just such a start, the era from which you feel confident as a historian, because no, you were involved in earlier things, this is the time when, in fact, in modern times. as our country was formed, multi-religious, multinational, imperial, but a completely different empire than the european empire, colonial, a completely different type of empire, you know, an empire that absorbed new territory, began to date it immediately, usually, and not

pull it out from there all the values, the empire, which was incredibly tolerant and accepting of its subjects. equally, not one of them disappeared, no, they all just grew, moreover, all ethnic groups have grown significantly in number, this is a very interesting time with very interesting , bright, beautiful people, well, in conclusion, i’ll ask you , is it clear where this will be completed, such a difficult question, where is the constituent assembly or the second world war war, i would really like to complete this, frankly, before nicholas ii , because then a very painful time begins, i would really not want these books to cause a bad mood or negative emotions, so that they bring discord, yes, so that they bring discord, i would like, so that after reading them, people understand that

, firstly, everything has already happened, secondly, we need to learn a lot from our ancestors, and thirdly, the point of history is not to step on the same old steps again... rake, this will happen what is called, what i call a positivistic view of history. this is a positivist or maybe, as you rightly said, a positive view, well, such a sober, calm one, leading to some kind of agreement, well, is it right to think that love for the native ashes, love for the atheical coffins, on what rest from time immemorial, by the will of god himself, man’s self-sufficiency, the guarantee of his greatness, is the only thing. this is the only correct attitude towards your history, thank you very much, vladimirovich , for the conversation, in our podcast, in conclusion, i always say my slogan or express myself in a foreign slogan, read with pleasure, dear friends,

see you again! hello, this is a psyche podcast, and we continue to unravel the complex tangles of human lives, we do it carefully, carefully, so that our heroes and those who recognize themselves, perhaps, see a reflection their situation in the fate of our hero, they found some way out or at least looked, perhaps from a different angle, at the situation that... worries and prevents him from being happy. our expert today, clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences, artur timofeev, hello everyone, our hero milena. she. she was left alone with two children, her personal life is not developing the way milena would like, well, milena herself will probably tell us everything,

hello, hello, what did you come with? i 'm looking for a potential husband, i'm walking around right now dating and meeting men, i have a question at what stage should i introduce this person to my children. how to understand that it is generally worth introducing this person , whether we will have a continuation, and, in fact, how to introduce this person to children, so as not to traumatize their psyche, not to give them any unnecessary hopes that this person will stay for a long time our life, because we already had a certain bad experience, and now i would like not to... step on the same rake and do everything. milin, here you are are you talking about a bad experience, do you mean your husband, the father of these children, or do you

mean those men who came after? both, well, it turns out that my marriage ended in divorce, unfortunately, and with the father of the children, we do not maintain a relationship, respectively, men, yes, dads. not in our lives, but it so happened that literally a few days before giving birth, higher powers , i don’t know what else to call it, sent me a wonderful man who, for 3 years in our lives, became, well, literally mine a man, a father to children, that is, he is so mileen, let’s do it this way, you divorced your husband, well, actually separated when you were pregnant with your second child, so it turns out. that this man who came into your life, he essentially accepted this second child, yes, that is, he accepted both children,

that is, you lived together, we did not live together, that is, the man was from another country and we met , that is, well, we had a full-fledged relationship, albeit at a distance, but he came, that is, the children knew him, yes, he came to us, we took him to see him together time, what happened, why? such a wonderful relationship was interrupted, well, unfortunately, something happened in the world that force majeure circumstances that separated us, probably the pandemic you mean, yes, i mean precisely these circumstances, and for some time we still had hope, that we will get together, but considering that for 3 years already, it was already a long-distance relationship, then well, at some point i just...... psychologically could not stand it and was the initiator, was the initiator , offered to let go of this situation, well, in general, we

we discussed it together and said yes, because we couldn’t find a solution on how to be together. milena, if i asked you who you are looking for first of all, are you looking for yourself, a friend, a lover, a man, are you looking for a husband, as you know, social status, as some kind of support point, or are you looking for your dad. child, i understand that of course, in an ideal world we want the first, second, third computer, but for you now what is the main task, this is the motivation, indeed, yes, in my ideal world, i am looking, first of all, for a loved one person with whom i have a personal relationship there will be a good, close relationship, i am a young woman, i am interested in this person being romantic. love partners. and on this basis, if everything goes well, then in general i would like

to get married and legitimize this relationship , specifically for the purposes of what is the status, i need a husband now, i don’t have one, because i was already married, this status, it does not give anything if there is no mutual understanding, respect, love within the family, within the relationship, your photos with your children are very cool. thank you, that’s exactly what you guys are, yes, that’s it, by the way, this photo shoot was for us, just a man, this is the love that was after marriage, this is what he did, milena , please tell me, and when you separated from the man, yes, when the relationship was at a distance, the pandemic happened, like children they accepted it, well, to begin with, the eldest son is older, he still remembered his dad, they still had moments, but such a pleasant childhood, yes, that is, the child remembers his dad, and

he was bored, asked where he was, what he, ah... yes there was a new man, yes, that is, he, roughly speaking, he completely replaced this one, and how old was he, at the beginning of the relationship he was about 4.5 years old, and well, it so happened that i even came on the first date with the baby, and that is, and somehow, then all of our dates, in general, were almost at the beginning , while the baby was little, everything happened together, but accordingly, i didn’t even have the option of not introducing them, and somehow everything went on by itself and went on for these 3 years. beautiful, and then, in fact, my question is that i didn’t know what to tell the children, how to explain to them what was going on here the situation in the world, something went wrong, that we are adults here, it seems we can’t agree, that is, it was a shock for me and for the children, i still have this question, what, what in such a situation

, to speak at all, because you are making up fairy tales, but what was told? well, i said that it so happened that airplanes no longer fly from one country to another, that we live in one country, and people live in another, accordingly, well, they all flew together, and now airplanes don’t fly and we don’t we can see each other mom doesn’t know how much it will be, and as if the other person on the other side doesn’t know either, so we for now... as we live. yes. and how did the son perceive this information? in fact, he seemed to understand, but from time to time, of course, he approached me with the question of what, and when we will see each other, well, as it were, when everything will work out, that is, well, there were no direct strong questions, but the children were already used to it, they expected that the person existed, that he would exist. and

it turns out that at some point, when we have already resolved this issue. i realized that this is on an indefinite period and that we need to prepare the children for something else, and i said that the sun sometimes happens, that well, dads and close people, we can’t see them, and that i said that dad is the person with who educates and raises you, who is with you, and that we will find a new dad. well, she said that she made a promise, it turns out, but i sincerely and kind of wanted this myself, well, arthur, well, what’s done is done, but i already understand that you need to avoid making such promises to children, or is it like a story about grandfather

frost, hold out until the last moment, as long as he believes, well, it’s better not like this, not like that, there are some ages at which children really won’t be able to perceive information normally, in general, most often they don’t even ask questions, these are ages, usually up to 5 years, up to 5 years old, children have all the questions, they are very childish and because their ponytail apparatus is very childish, so the answer is that we cannot see dad there, or even the man, because he cannot fly. this is a completely understandable answer, since about 5 years old, there from five and a half, maybe from six , they differ a little, but these frameworks, depending on the child himself, the child will already ask more targeted questions, he will be curious, so any information that goes to the child is associated with either

promises or ... stories of something unrealistic, but the child remembers it, in general, he will somehow react to it. we become hostages of these, by accident or intentionally, even if the child himself did not remember this, this can also happen, these are children, well, then we remember, i have a feeling that we, you know, such a social stereotype, continue to associate the happiness of our children with a complete family. yeah, again in an ideal world this is how it should be, but the world is not ideal , it’s different, now it might have seemed to me, mylene, you’re screwed, but it seemed to me that for you your family happiness is connected, well, practically with the obligatory style of presence in in the house of a man and the father of children, it turns out that everything that happened to me, yes, that’s how many

points out of ten? eight out of ten for it’s still important to me that... we have a complete family and there is a man in ours, and if this doesn’t happen, well, this is not such a, you know, managerial task, so no matter what, we need to find here is such a luminary. if this does not happen, i will accept it and will continue my life, continue to study, and realize myself, help my children grow , i will still go on dates, and even according to the theory of probability, someday a person should meet, how much time do you give yourself that's it, i have my whole life ahead of me, i won't myself. this is a psychic podcast, my name is natalya loseveva, i am a journalist, with me in the studio is an expert, clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences, artur timofeev

, our hero milena. arthur, i don’t even know, now i’ll ask you, as a man or as a psychologist? let's ask in one bottle. and what is the correct strategy and tactics for a woman who is still young, a beautiful woman, who is left with two children and wants. after all, for her happiness to be like this, well, that’s how we know from books and good films with a man with children. i don't like the word right. ah, it’s still important here, what does milena herself want, if she really sees her family as complete, yes, when there is a man next to her, yes, and for the children he becomes, maybe a foster father, yes, well, or so in some kind of relationship, then... why not , yes, this is her picture, uh, she’s so comfortable, she wants it so much, if it weren’t for my positive experience with the last man, i, who, i would probably i

just thought that this doesn’t happen, and when it happened in my life, i just don’t i want to give up on this, and i understand that this happens, and probably this hope, it will simply be in me until the end of my life, i even have...' hope that this person and i can someday decide later, let's talk about this now, 3 years ago you broke up, i understand correctly, mm, yes, approximately, it’s more important when the decision was made, not when you couldn’t see each other, but how it was decided just when my daughter was about 3 years old , so now i measure everything with my daughter, this was a decision formally on your initiative accepted, well, we approached this together, that is... that is, we talked and we discussed options and did not find options, which, how to live together, that is, he did not want

to come here, you did not want to go there, he could not, then there was no question whether we wanted to, there was a question that he couldn’t, and i couldn’t, a solution that could possibly save us, it, unfortunately, was not possible at that... moment, therefore, how long can a relationship even last, at such a distance? relationships are very dynamic things, but relationships at a distance, they they seem to freeze, that is, a person develops himself somewhere there, and you yourself develop here, and when you meet there in a couple of years, for example, you may understand that you have nothing to talk about, but conditionally, wait, well, we we live in the digital age, right? now you can speak with your voice for an infinite amount of time, literally online, including on speakerphone, and spend the whole evening together , not to mention video, yes, you can agree, absolutely

agree, but this is not at all the same as living together in the same territory , what are you talking about you mean that there is no one to say, dear, today you are washing the dishes, well, i’m not, now of course i’m not taking the most important intimate sphere, but nevertheless, that is, emotional contact without physical contact cannot be maintained for a long time, what do you want to say , maybe, but it’s much more difficult, there are always risks that , after all, when people are together, they adapt to each other, but relationships are a dynamic thing, it develops, develops because both each person in a couple changes, and relationships within a couple, and when such a gap occurs, despite the fact that it is possible to communicate... there via video link, nevertheless, the lack of a common life, the lack of the opportunity to constantly contact each other creates, well, some

barriers and the risks of a gap increase, well , plus we know that physical intimacy very often