with a separate vestibule for cooking, and why? because when you boil water, the steam rises, immediately freezes and can, uh, like snow fall inside the tent, it will fall on things, roar, everything will melt, things will be wet, so in the place, the place where we cooked food, it was insulated, everything was thought out in advance, but - unfortunately, the design turned out to be insufficiently... stable, not strong enough for the antarctic wind, and the tent broke, and the tent, the wind, wind gusts reached almost 100 km/h, and the tent just it turned out that we had to spend the night in a broken tent, but the wind was so strong that when six people were lying in a tent, equipment, six adult men, and the tent was still tied and the wind was lifting it, wasn’t it scary at that moment?

well, i wouldn’t say that it wasn’t scary at all, there was a certain excitement, there was excitement, yes, but there was a certain excitement, because i couldn’t sleep, the fabric was flapping very strongly, there was a very strong wind, that is, you can probably imagine , a car, when you're going 120 km/h and you lean out cars, that’s how you sleep, and then we had to decide what to do next, we understood perfectly well that the plane just...’ so in such a wind it won’t come for us, which means we’ll have to live in these conditions for some time , well, it will be necessary, that means it will be necessary, we were ready for this, but how to live without a tent, well, live without a tent, we also had an additional tent, exclusively for cooking, to cook food in a confined space, but clothes, which we had, it involved being in conditions

antarctica almost around the clock, in overalls for high-altitude ascents, high-altitude climbing boots, that is, in principle, we could exist safely without a tent, and you still, even when the tent broke, continued to explore, and yes, because we essentially didn’t have there is no other way out, well, in the end, if the tent is broken, then this is not a reason to stop, but as you have nowhere, well, yes, but we understood perfectly well that the sooner we finish the field work, the better it will be, because via satellite communication we received the forecast is very unfavorable, that is, the conditions were only getting worse, we had a very small weather window when we requested evacuation, but now let’s move from equipment to people, after all, well, not a simple team, someone is a scientist, you are an astronaut, you are all different and you have been living for a week, gathered in one small tent, how not to quarrel , not to quarrel, not to go crazy at all, because

, because there is someone nearby all the time, well , first of all, you need to get to know each other in advance , of course, we didn’t meet on the spot, we got acquainted in advance and had a training camp in the forest, because all the participants had to understand what they would encounter , what snow and ice were, well, fortunately everyone knew what snow and ice was, what mountaineering was, well , probably only here we have danis karlovich, he did not participate in mountaineering activities, as a geologist, he knew very well what a field camp was and work far from civilization, well, these are conditions, namely relationships, after all, all people are different in different roles, how to negotiate, first of all, as in space, absolutely the same approach, you need know why you went there, if you went there to gain new knowledge, in order to achieve some result , every time you do your work, remember that you are working for a common result, that the task is not easy

here... just like a tourist, the task is to go on your own, see for yourself and return, but the team’s task is to bring the result common to everyone, so when you work as a team, you must remember that team goals, well, this is understandable, this is taught even in school, roughly speaking, but here there are still very real people confined in one space, well, we were lucky, we were lucky, because all the participants turned out to be simply excellent people, very... everyone turned out to be very interesting, all the people who went to antarctica of their own free will and made every effort for this, they all love adventures, you understand that a person who is afraid or does not like adventures will never go to a place with extreme conditions, after all, if i honestly admit to myself, if only everything was the same, the same benefits for world knowledge it is possible

was to bring, an extreme place, it would be interesting for you and these people, but it seems to me that this is impossible, well, well, there are fewer and fewer places, here is antarctica, space, already in siberia it is already such that... you can take a helicopter to a big some of the points to hit. it seems to me that this is a misconception, but i am sure that we still have enough places and time to discover the earth in a new way, including remote places, in places with difficult conditions that require people who are ready to take risks, to go somewhere to gain new knowledge, to the earth is full of such places, including the north. this is the depths of the ocean, the ocean seems to me to be missing for you, you are not in the plans , somewhere in the mirian depression, somewhere else, not yet, not yet, but i don’t know what will happen next, this is also a whole

space, there is a huge underground world, there are spiliologists and you are going to a cave, i have already been to caves, well, i will gladly come back again, this is also its own world, which spelliologists explore, it is incredibly interesting with its own characteristics, rules, it is impossible to gain knowledge without going to such places, so people who, on the one hand, are inquisitive, any scientist is inquisitive, a person who loves adventures, he is inquisitive , curiosity, it’s in our genes , try to find out what’s around the corner, and find out personally, i’m sure that scientists who use that, that knowledge , which we brought to them, they would be happy, perhaps, to go to antarctica into space, if they could get it? we brought a very interesting sample that ruslan kolunin found, and initially we were almost sure

that it was a meteorite, but for this it is necessary there was a lot of research to be done, we brought this sample to the ural federal university, carried it out at the kazan federal university on complex equipment, and it turned out that it was not possible to reliably confirm that it was a meteorite, because there are no samples with which to compare , there are no similar ones, but scientists could not say which terrestrial parody it belongs to, that is , it turns out that this sample is frozen, and this is also very interesting, it’s like being brought in a fairy tale , i don’t know what, but how to even look for meteorites, so you say there is madder, madder is a heap of piled stones that... the glacier has brought in from all over the continent this is the most interesting thing, the glacier collects everything that it encounters in motion, including everything that falls on it from above,

reaching a certain point, he brings it to the surface, well, we can look at the works of the maryans here in the moscow region, anywhere, to find a meteorite there, you need to look for something that doesn’t look like what is there in abundance, you have to come to the place, fly to the place and - carefully study what kind of material is in place, what the moraine consists of, and for those who have never done this, this is generally difficult, but how to find a meteorite when you don’t understand what it looks like, then you get used to that the rock that exists, and after a while you begin to notice with your eyes something that is not like most stones, they tried to create a robot. which will analyze visually, they tried to create devices that would use a magnetic field to determine where the meteorite is, but it turned out that after analyzing the work, which is better

there is no instrument of the human eye, that is, the human eye, plus the analytical abilities of the brain, this is the best, most effective way to find a meteorite, well, that’s for today, after all, artificial intelligence jumps like that, yes, but you have no fear of robots, that you will become unnecessary , after all, it’s easier to send it to antarctica, into space, into the depths of the ocean, like an iron machine, firstly, it’s not such a pity, that’s what we do, the robot is needed where uh, at the moment we use it where there is routine operations, so as not to waste human resources time, or where it is extremely dangerous for a person to be, not in general that they will refuse such people who go to dangerous places prepared, that... they will not need him, i think that there will be some kind of symbiosis here, because a person, because of his curiosity, will never refuse the opportunity to go where he has never been before, but still, robots are getting smarter much faster than you and me, is there

a fear that you will find yourself useless with your skills, i’m like - i spoke with scientists who give tasks to sea rovers, because when the rover explores the surface... it carries out certain algorithms laid down from the ground and these algorithms are created with the help of scientific geologists, including geoorphologists, everyone who explores the sea. and when i talked with one of the scientists, he said: if there had been a geologist, he would have done everything that the rover did in a year, probably in three weeks, it’s clear, it’s clear that now, compared to the rover, you’re better, and literally 5 years later, look, i, as a journalist, thought that i was incredibly cool, i can quickly rewrite any text, now this same gpt chat takes over for me... they come up with, edit, do it in a split second. a year ago it was not so advanced.

are you not afraid that robots will appear in your area that will be better able to take samples from mars, sense the magnetic field more finely, determine iron meteorites in antarctica, and most importantly, if something happens to them, yes, of course, it’s expensive, well, i feel sorry for you, right , but it is very difficult for me now to limit those fields where the robot is useless in this regard, still such fields remain, after all, robots in this regard, they are for us they help, and do not compete, i would say so, that is, they do, they help to do some work more efficiently, this means that we must take on tasks that the robot cannot yet do, trite, this is like the example with dishwasher, because it washes dishes better than we do, but we don’t worry about it, we use these benefits, but nevertheless , people in creative professions and people who do analytics have concerns that they

will remain out of work, some professions in in the end, as a result of the technical revolution, some professions may disappear, i mean about your professions, okay, then you can ask the question, how to send a robot to that place of initial data about which there is no force to make it work there, not , well, wait, there is still one in space, well, one of the most understandable goals is landing on mars. why risk people when you can send a more advanced robot there, the fact is that, well, you can probably put an advanced robot there, we’re already there now let’s start with hypothetical reasoning, well, we don’t quite have it, as i understand the project, but still this robot will do what we came up with here, here, well, sitting here in a cozy chair, in a cozy chair, and based on our conclusions, which we did here, and not on the spot, the bears were riding a bicycle, and behind them a cat backwards, i was just thinking about really teaching the dog to skateboard, in the end it took 3 days and he went, do you

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the main thing is to approach them responsibly, that is, cosmonauts, scientists who go on expeditions, polar explorers, these are not the people who can be called adventurers, but we always think through - we try to think through all the steps, of course, there is a degree of uncertainty, there is always a plan b, and if plan b doesn’t work, there must be a plan c, well, at least a plan on how to get back home , all people who can be called travelers and adventurers have this, any adventure has excitement, there is excitement in searching for meteorites, you will find , you won't find we'll be lucky with the weather, we'll be unlucky with the weather, but even if we're not lucky, we're still ready for plan b. or maybe an adventure without... -35, cosmic cold, meteorites, here is a man sitting in a chair and thinking, his thought can become an adventure, i think, yes, if you do analytical work, you come across an idea, what if, that is, to ask a question for which there is no obvious answer and which involves

several hypothetical solutions, that is, a puzzle, a puzzle is a mental one... it’s excitement, yeah, scientists, often these are passionate people who come across some kind of solution, in hard work in mental work, and they try to test these decisions, a correct hypothesis, a wrong hypothesis, this is also an adventure, because when you check something, you may come across something something unpredictable, but in general all these adventures are needed more by someone, the hero himself, who swims, flies, and so on, i think. i think it’s mutual, mutual, why, because there are people who love adventure, and there are people who don’t really like adventure, but they we need to get some data, these people are gathering, some astronauts or workers at polar stations, antarctic ones, they

say, we are ready to go beyond 3.9 lands, and they say, well, you shouldn’t just send it? you still have to bring benefit, but in fact they all want it, and the astronauts and explorers themselves want to bring benefit, so this is a symbiosis, man, again, i go back to the beginning, a person who doesn’t like adventure, he will never go there, of course that’s all love to read about adventures even those who are afraid to go somewhere, why, because he himself seems to be turning into a hero, and why are so few people who read zhelvern and other adventure authors, so few, end up in the cosmonaut corps or in antarctica, which stops people, fear, lack of money, it could be fear , trite, it could be self-doubt, well, maybe a person can, but i definitely won’t succeed and won’t even try, by the way, this is the secret of the failure of so many, and this can be and health those who try, they cannot

some formal characteristics, education, health, a person wants to try, but he does not have the necessary qualities in order to formally... into space or to an antarctic station, these could probably be everyday reasons, but finances in general can be on adventures , well, not just to get rich, at least to support myself, i know that i am absolutely sure, based on my communication with polar explorers and cosmonauts, that the people who go on these expeditions to space in the antarctic are people who are definitely going there they don’t come for the money, well, the cosmonauts can’t support it, yes, expeditions, i think , too, yes, but the risks that these expeditions have, of course, they probably don’t cover the finances with which they are provided, okay , it was delicious, you flew to antarctica , went, further, where, after all, what are your immediate plans while preparing for the next flight into space,

after all, space flight is a certain responsibility, and you can’t say that you can thoughtlessly rush into some kind of expedition, because this is a risky thing, and the most important the priority is still preparation for a flight into space, and then, well, once again you fly to the iss, in the distant future, i don’t know, you’ll fly to mars or the moon, god forbid, and what else, what dreams do you have? , if you really let your dreams go, as we love, it’s actually very correct to dream, then of course, these are depths. the depth of the oceans, because they are little explored, this is also the underground space, these are the poles, it is quite possible that there are some places that are much less. for example, i took part in an expedition to the east several years ago, and

it was an expedition to search for new caves of karst cavities, and it’s an extraordinary feeling when you discover a new entirety , a new cave, go there, find traces of the life of some cave animals, and you realize that you are the first person to be here. which i saw with my own eyes, no one knew about it before you, no one had seen it, it’s an amazing feeling, even if it’s a small discovery, well , unfortunately we’re coming to an end, so i want some life advice from you, i don’t know, who is watching us, how can you still become a participant in the adventure while bringing benefit? and a huge number of different expeditions that require participants, in fact, i ended up on an antarctic expedition: well, relatively by accident, i had mountaineering experience, that is, what was necessary, that is, there is some kind of background, here’s something else, i need have some kind of background,

but you need to have some kind of background absolutely, either a scientific background, or a background, some kind of background in extreme activities, because an expedition is always an uncomfortable place, an unsafe place, so i walked through the mountains, through the forests, through the desert. i want, i want to bring new knowledge to the world, you can start with the simplest, just an ordinary participant, and i actually participated as an ordinary participant, despite the fact that i have the background of an astronaut, but when you go on an expedition, i was in expeditions on uninhabited islands, i was there as an ordinary field worker collecting samples, but this required several skills, this is a mountaineering skill, this is a skill working with scientific... that is, you need to be able to take samples aseptically, all this knowledge accumulated in the fact that i was simply offered to go on an expedition, but also , probably, everyone has some kind of background

that can be useful specifically on certain expeditions, so after all, from the point of view of the family, well, most people have a wife, you have two children , you say, i won’t go with you, so sochi, i’ll go to the distant mountains to look for untouched islands, i don’t know what, how to combine it, well, come to an agreement, at least get out with the athlete, yes? no, i’m talking about the fact that it’s always, well, not easy, because a family is just a family that you have to take care of it and be with it, but nevertheless, people who go on expeditions cannot live without this activity , both my wife and children, they understand perfectly well that this person cannot sit still, well, like me, at first... it was not easy, but then my wife just realized that i couldn’t be allowed to go, thank you very much, unfortunately, i have to to finish, the podcast schrödinger's cat was with you, and i am its host,

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this is a podcast 20 years later and i and its host konstantin mikhailov and we wish you happiness together with stas namin. stas, good evening. good evening. hello, musician, producer, artist, director, theater and cinema, the list of your professions can be continued endlessly. but if you were to leave one thing, what would you leave, who are you? i wouldn’t call all of this professions at all, it’s just street. that is, stas, you always did what you generally wanted to do, what was interesting to you, well, yes, it seems to me that this is what people should do, at one time you were sent to the svovor school, you did not feel lonely, absolutely, absolutely, in general, i take the military profession very seriously, my father is a military pilot, why didn’t we follow this path, it just so happened, in life not everything turns out as you plan, but it turns out on its own, especially

at this... age , which i had then, i just finished school, yeah, i'm 7 years old i studied at the local school, and after it it turned out that i already went to the institute of foreign languages ​​there, something else , that is, there at the institute you already fell in love with music, but no, you probably fell in love with music before, and what group did you like? inspired the most, well , at first, probably, it was generally such old rock-roll, little richard, elvis presley, yeah. because my dad loved this music, listened to it on a large tape recorder in the military garrisons where i lived with him, that’s probably where it all started, and then the beatles, then rolling stones, and so on, and when the idea came to how to organize my own group , well, i was 12 or 14 years old, at the age of 12 i had my own group, well, yes, boys near the school, we did something there, what did you play, i play the guitar, and you yourself are a teacher, yes, i kind of think... that

it so happened that i received my general education at universities, yeah, and somewhere else i studied at higher courses, and of course, teachers, that i had there were for me an opening into the world in general, not only artificial history, the scientific world in general, in all the areas that i am involved in, i am mostly self-taught, but this somehow sounds very... strange, self-taught, but in principle, self-education is probably even more important than professional education, because if you study somewhere formally , yeah, you get a professional diploma, then that’s one story, but when you study like a fanatic yourself, when you don’t spend, don’t think, how many hours you spend on this activity, then probably there is no less value in this, you’re also interested in photography , i tell everyone

i get carried away, but this is at the level of the whole hobby. and what happens, you know, it’s impossible to say what happens, i don’t know, what happens is what seems to me, seems beautiful to me, but it’s not objective, well, it ’s great, one can only envy this way of life, this approach to life in general, and actually it’s in everyone’s hands, to do what you love, to do what you like, you ’re right, stas, in the mid-seventies we know that suddenly for some reason the name flowers was banned, and you had to rename your group, why was this? what is it connected with? the ministry of culture decided that flowers are hippie propaganda, flava power, and so on, yeah , which is actually true, but uh, nevertheless, no one forced us to rename, they just closed us all, and when i started this group again , then i had to come up with something else, and here is sasha slezunov, our keyboard player, a great musician

, who suggested that we name ourselves because they generally knew me, so that it would be clear that this is the same group, yeah, call it that way according to the example of such a famous group at that time: it’s called, but here it turned out, it even fits the syllables, znamenny, well, well, we tried that, but we had to start from scratch, well , nothing, we survived, but it turned out great, but what is it like now the stacynamine group is engaged, they work, a lot, a lot, and tour, record, so, i would say that about 2 years ago, yes, yes, in the nineteenth year, yeah, the group - played a fiftieth anniversary concert, that is, celebrated 50 years old, we were born in 1969, so in 1919 it was like once 50 years ago, we had a huge concert in the kremlin, we had never performed in the kremlin

, this was the first time they offered us, and we decided that at 50 years old, okay, let ’s do it in the kremlin, now it means we’re already turning 54, well yes, well, next year 55, we will do a concert again, i’m the same age as your group, just because? again to the kremlin, in general, i don’t care where to perform, no, i think that the kremlin is enough once, but the truth is it doesn’t matter where to perform, there is a difference between a small venue and a stadium, the difference there is, but i’m comfortable with both, yeah, and the guys too, it’s a completely different thrill, intimate and so huge, and besides the guys, you have a solo project of some kind , it’s just completely solo in some sense, i have it very much. .. there are many projects, but you are just like allan parson, let’s say there is no of course in the song genre of course no what is psychedelic blues of the seventies rhythm blues of the seventies i don’t understand these there are only two types of music you know rock roll no good bad a good

bad yes by the way and you symphonic music are you still studying, i know, yes, yes, my mother still has a symphonic education, she graduated from the conservatory as a graduate student, in general , how my youth passed around or inside symphonic music, she had amazing musician friends, so it turned out that rock roll took me into some kind of - a strange side, it blew my mind, but in fact i then returned to what my mother actually wanted to teach me from the very beginning, you are 71 years old , thank god you have a mother, they say that we remain children as long as we are alive our parents are so? no. i think that regardless of this, i will be a child all my life, even your pseudonym too, as far as i know, is from my mother, of course, yes, i am mother’s, mother’s, namin, that’s her name, yes, us, yes, that’s in georgian

kesinka, rossinka by us, namin, it turns out, stas mamin, yes, yes, yes, why was there a 10-year break in the work of the group flowers, then i transposed the group, ours, so the musicians from the group flowers moved to the group gorky park, except for kolya noskova, everyone else played in colors, so i didn’t collect them, i just took them and transferred them to another group and came up with a new, new style direction, this is what i didn’t know, that parky’s group, it turns out, is the group flowers, the reincarnation of the group flowers, and in fact it turned out to be the only russian rock group competitive on the world market. yes, now after, it collapsed then 100 years ago, well, 35 years ago, it seems, or 30, now i rebuilt it, gorky park, yes, and now they, again they are in the world, now they have started a serious

noise, then there is now the kisykhs have been invited to go on a joint tour, now they will have a tour in the usa, as a solo, and then somewhere else china, many different ones, you’ve been in contact with keys for a long time or, well, yes, we’re friends a lot. hello, on the air news in the studio sergei tugushev, at the beginning of the episode, briefly about the main thing. strikes on the gaza strip and syria are new victims of the middle east conflict. russia requested a un vote on a ceasefire and the release of the hostages. along the entire line.