[000:00:00;00] you do, it left its mark, this is more the reason, or it’s both, that’s how you think, it seems to me that sooner or later in the life of every person there comes a moment when, well, he begins to think more about , uh, what is happening in his life, how it is happening, you begin to understand, so to speak, well, seeing over the years how this world is developing, you begin to ask certain questions in general, to be honest, for me, the path of human attention is that that we are becoming more and more over the years we notice how the world is in an alarming situation, if we take , for example, childhood and school, yes, i didn’t care much about what was happening around, except for the fact that in the international panorama one could see

some short... excerpts about the betlov, but i can say that this did not concern me at all, not only because it was not interesting to me, it was as if i was protected by some kind of force, some kind of cover, you know, a conditional cap, so mystical, and when you start to think how to protect yourself, so to speak, so as not to dry out completely in this raging world. then, of course, you wonder how this can be achieved, and in fact, this is the path to god, but the most difficult thing is when you understand that yes , there is a way out, there is salvation, this is love, this is the path to god, yes, as anthony of sorozhsky said, at the last judgment, it will become clear

to us that the only thing that was valuable in this... so when you realize at this moment that you need to go to god, i’m not even talking about improving to such an extent , as jesus said in his sermon, as our heavenly father, let us be perfect, at this moment, other things terrify you, that you need to uproot this entire field, and this is a very painful process. and roots, yes, it’s not like that, just like that, yes, it fell a little, very complex, labor-intensive and painful, and after that you can, so to speak, plow this soil and sow it, well, if i’m correct i understand you, you think that this is still connected with age and generation, and not rather than with what you did, i i thought so, until some time, until i was faced with the fact that i saw young people

who... in our time it may be even more difficult in some sense, because it is more intense, more tousled, yes, because that passions are right on the surface, and so at that moment when i saw these young people, i wavered a little in my theory, this has nothing to do with age, well, it’s good when we, so to speak, can waver in the theory, alexey nikarov, what do you think, here i am right now about personal search, was it more related to time? with what was in the air, in general , or with what you were doing, like you, i think that god determines everyone’s own path, so he leads everyone along this path, because when i came to faith, when probably , i had a second such important milestone, it was a meeting with a saint, with father nikolai guryan, well, with the great elder, so i

had a lot of questions. but one of them, since i heard a lot of all kinds of music, rocks and other things, it was in the bowels of the church, so i went up to the priest, and i said, father, is my craft pleasing to god or not, so he smiled and said: “whatever, whatever, so he knew that i had positive, negative experience, once upon a time, that’s when pargorku appeared and we made different works, somewhere we tried to go deeper, that ... "we had just such straight rock-rock, but the truth is that along the way we began to change very much, and changed a lot, changed until the very end, while the group functioned in its entirety, we changed all the time, so when the first album came out, there was no internet and letters poured in from all over the world, i saw these bags, bags, bags, bags piled up, it was just one day, and they told me, read this pile of letters,

so i started reading, there were letters from all over the world, and almost all the letters were written like this, it was about just one song, thank you, this song helped me not commit suicide, it was my first positive experience, although i didn’t change then, rock -en-rol remained, i still flew like a meteor for a long time, several more years, so forward, and later there was a negative experience, and this is all part of the journey, that’s why i was just embarrassed, and i needed to ask this question, and i asked, well, look, this is a question, it’s even, here we are today they remembered gogal, maybe not by chance, yes, after all, gogol experienced without any fate, i think, that’s your question, my craft, maybe he said creativity, i don’t know if god wants it, it’s not at all a fact that he answered it, and or it’s definitely not a fact that

he answered the same way as you, yes, rather he i said, my craft, my creativity doesn’t need anything before, i’m deliberately emphasizing now, yes, that is, this conflict, as it happened for you, is passing. but it exists, yes, it exists, and i think it will develop in some way, alexey was just talking about these things, and i remembered the famous painting by bosch, triptych, called the garden of earthly delights, and you see, 14- the 15th century was a strict time, then playing music was already considered a matter of religion. and although in general, by our standards, it was about completely harmless things, just playing musical instruments, notes are also depicted there, so it seems to me that in this case this is a measure

that a person chooses for himself, of course, that’s as much as you want, and if you really want it to be as you like, you just need to cut off any in yourself. blasphemy, any heresy, and any foul language, you just need to cleanse yourself, everyone did this, including revolutionaries, but i don’t think that gogol didn’t understand this, he understood, of course, but why did he have such a decision then, there, i don’t want to go into biographical details right now go deeper, but he’s into, well, this is a sinusoid, this is characteristic of humans, this is nature. and i think that maybe there wasn’t such a person next to him, or he wasn’t looking for such a person, although uh, we used to often go to optina putin and even lived in a monastery, but now

women are not allowed there, but before, before they let me in, we went to night services, they let me read the memorial, those who came there , and there was gogol, there was dostoevsky, in fact, they got there, they got there, they jumped up... they got in, unlike tolstoy, yes? yes, i think that maybe he didn’t ask the most important question from one of these elders, and about his creativity, perhaps everything would have been different, i’m just saying, swearing is such a terrible thing, yes, yes, i just want to go back with you, why did i ask about generations or whether it’s related to creativity, because that’s how it seems to me, god knows, maybe i’m being deceived, but it seems to me that this is my path, for example, it this is quite standard, that is, it’s at the end of school, it’s russian literature, this is dostoevsky, how for the first time you begin to think there , then just at the end of the eighties they begin to publish russian philosophers whom we

did not know, and you begin to read about the gospel, about the church there and the gospel itself, and then in some... that moment, in my life he was just a person, we taught, by the way , megimon taught music history from the conservatory, and he was generally casual, he told us about the music of ancient india or something... the stems there may there latin americanatsli chilitli, this whole story , musical instruments, i still remember the name, and we asked him about something, the word church sounded, he was fasting, now i understand that he himself was like that, absolute neophyte, he says, well, i think that of course you don’t eat white bread there, but black bread there, and it wasn’t that he said yes, that it was such an unofficial twist, yes, it was that he said , well, well, what’s the point of reading if you’re not there, if you don’t live in this house, so... and he such and this path, it seems to me, well, as i say, the path of such university boys, but with you it was probably different somewhere, it doesn’t matter or it’s similar, we sometimes had to go down to hell in order to push off

, so to understand that there is such a bottom, so probably , after all, there is a slightly different path, well, this is a strong phrase, i think that i came to church quite late in general, that this is how my fate turned out, that i lived for 15 years in krasnoyarsk, where i was born, and i’ll be honest, i later tried remember at least... i didn’t remember one church, purely physically, i just didn’t meet a church on my way, which means either i didn’t see it, that is, my perception was so dulled, yes, or they really weren’t there it was possible, because the city is quite new , plus, so to speak, the consequences of the bolshevik destruction, but nevertheless, here i came after... college, after school, after

even, after working as a specialist, an architect, and for a long time i perceived music only as artistic amateur performance, as a matter of fact, entertainment for oneself. alexey nikolavich, your phrase that we had to descend into hell haunts me, this is how you live now with these memories, what do they mean in your life today, do you? you’re trying to forget, no, they can’t forget, i think that you need to remember, you need to remember, so to speak, not to be forgotten, this is all for a reason, it’s all part of the path, so the thief had to be crucified next to christ in order understand who is hanging on the cross next to him, and shout to him, lord, into your kingdom, when you arrive in the kingdom , that’s... this is also a terrible path, he killed people,

he definitely visited ado before that, that’s when he was the first to enter heaven . today we gathered our thoughts about russian rock as a cultural phenomenon. vyacheslav butusov, alexey belov, i’m vladimir, we continue, a little bit to the search for generations, i want to return, because people, yes, that means in different spheres of culture, at the same time. when we were looking, we were all looking, yes, here in there were these searches for the cinema, now we have a film about balabanov coming out, it was a glory anniversary, everyone gathered at my house , they gave interviews, quietly, hello , hello, but here they are celebrating, no, no, glory, what are you doing, i said, very top left, oh, excuse me, you have, man,

experience, yes, interaction with him, that’s how, how do you remember it, now? firstly, alexey and i knew each other for a long time, starting from college times, then he moved to st. petersburg, then i ended up there, yes, she read the world like a novel, and he turned out, i collected extras, once in a cafe, a huge cafe. extras only because there slava butus will play a song, and it was a fiction film, it turned out to be free, everything is absolutely, a walk in the park without a dog can become too expensive for you, your mother learns the morgue phone number by heart, when she is away, at home for too long.

and all this time, so to speak, we were watching each other in the sense that he was building a cinematic career, and i all this, all this was happening before my eyes, he naturally, so to speak, watched that what is happening here, at a certain stage i already had thoughts, well, somehow, what we need. to help each other, so to speak, just on this path , yes, on the path to god, i may not be a very good, so to speak, assistant in this sense from the point of view of eloquence, to pronounce the necessary words, yes, but i one way or another, in general, i tried to talk to alexey about this topic , but sometimes he had a categorical attitude for a long time, because he was very passionate about cinema, for him it was a whole world in which he lived,

was in charge, everything else had, so to speak, applied significance to this, as it seemed to me, but as you can see, at the end, so to speak , of his path, relatively speaking, professionally and humanly, he still came to this topic, i tried for a very long time persuade him to film some fairy tale or something like that, well, relatively speaking, yes, i even had options written... of various stories for synopses, and every time he told me that i’m not ready yet, i’m not mentally ready i want this, but i’m not ready, well, the result is... the last film is actually such a parable, by and large, all this is already happening there in this fenced bell tower, and the film itself, the title of the film and the essence of this story,

what i also want, everyone wants, in the end, i’m like a fool, my name is cross, i almost fell , a heavy wooden, huge cross, so i ’m waiting for someone... that’s it, but because of the people who followed me, it’s a strange story, right? i know, it connects with me, you said correctly, how to connect this with what we are talking about, that’s why for me russian rock is a continuation of russian literature, yes it inherits from russian literature, because russian literature is what gives us a space of meanings and a language, yes, we speak with these images, we remember these heroes and also russian rock, yes, here you are your songs, they enter our lives, it’s interesting that soviet cinema was the cinema of our language, yes, post-soviet , as far as i am concerned, maybe many will not

agree with me, but by and large these are the films brother, brother-2, here those that have entered the language, it seems to me that this also comes together here, but these are some kind of searches... and well, the result , yes, when something made by man becomes part of the language, of course, yes, but i also wanted to add that in addition to literature , after all, symphonic music is of great importance, i have been actively interested in this in recent years, and i can say that in academic music, in symphonic music, there is a lot of such pressure as... it sweeps away even worse than rock music , you know, there for its time it’s just cool rock, time is forward, it’s just a concrete example is that this is a bulldozer that you can’t fight against , just look,

we said about the bright future of russian rock, we said about symphonic music, but young people, let’s be honest, don’t listen. not all, young people are different, yes, any generalization is unfair to someone, but still today they don’t listen to rock the way they listened to it once upon a time, yes, some time ago, so maybe i’ll sharpen it, yes , well, intentionally, but i don’t see continuity with modern russian music great russian literature, with great russian culture with russian rock, i don’t see it there, i’m wrong, at one time such a terrible word for music appeared, it appeared in the nineties. the word format, then everything began to be divided, because before that everything was somehow together, if you take there, let’s say the seventies there, rock pop music and some kind of disc, it was all together, and then it started divided into formats, and then trends appeared, rap appeared for a reason, you don’t need

to know anything special, you don’t need to study and music, especially there, make yourself these beats, so to speak, there, so... and then say what came to mind, this is it, and it is also supported by the industry, it is by itself he would not have combed for long, this is also a stage , which says that everything should begin, so to speak, to develop in a new circle, and this will not go anywhere, and over time, it will be those seeds that are the most tenacious that will sprout, that is, into the more interesting ones, which have some meaning underneath you. but still music one way or another, yes at the core, as a manifestation of culture, literature, yes, this is a connection, this, this symbiosis, people will always return to them, because this is actually folk art, you are amazingly diplomatic today, you can find them in russian, modern,

i don’t know how to rap this is called, there is a connection with the great russian literature, do you see it, or do you just hope that there are more opportunities for literary expression than... lessons, because there you need something, something to be broadcast constantly, and a lot, there are many possibilities, yes, yes, yes, another thing, how this is used is not enough, unfortunately, we are with you today, of course, we had so much theological and cultural and musicological, i’m not afraid of the word dimension, but i know, in conclusion, what i would like to ask you about, since we have a lot today we were talking about... literature, so if you had to give some advice to our contemporaries, foreigners? get acquainted with russian literature, well, through some work or work, i won’t say there, name three there, yes, but

that’s the first thing that comes to mind, go to heart, what would you advise first of all, i am always easily ready to name pushkin, he has both poetry and prose, yes, this is one circumstance, the second circumstance is that he reached such heights in poetry... and which are already called fairy tales, and in poetry, but actually, in general, pushkin, our everything, yes, yes, alexei nikolai, what would you advise, well , i would probably rubanol dostoevsky, of course, but this is not for everyone, yes, this is a man who discovered for himself, said that he writes about terrible things from a position of light, not everyone maybe this is probably understandable, but nevertheless, i... their interview said that i just had such friends who, they are such cult musicians, there and still there they are

cult musicians in the west, here we are now we've been to such very interesting gatherings, where you come to such a house, and people walk around in clothes from the 16th century, so the hostess sits down at the piano, everyone came just for this, they start playing neoclassical music, how interesting it is, then they start talk, then it turns out that one of people, such a leading screenwriter, hollywood, i didn’t even know how i wrote so many films, so we just talked about literature with him and when i said the word dostoevsky, and he suddenly changed in his face, he changed and just like that became completely different, he suddenly bowed like that, i think he was bowing to me or something, he bowed in the wrong way, he said, oh dostoevsky, yes, and, of course, there are people who understand this, understand, sooner or later, after all, i will i was listening just now, i remembered some kind of tv series, i recently watched

an american detective story, there are two detectives in they are sitting in the car, one glove compartment opens, there is an idiot of dostoevsky, he says a good book, then dostoevsky, he says, well, the book is good, and the second time he doesn’t even say anything to him, he just looks, says, what should i explain to you, thank you , dear friends, i am eternally grateful to you, today we had a cult... we gathered our thoughts about russian rock as a cultural phenomenon, thank you. hello, my name is klim shipenko, i am a director-screenwriter, and with me today on a podcast about space stories, two heroes russia, cosmonaut, oleg novitsky and anton shkaplerov. today is october 5th, the second

anniversary of our space flight, the start of filming the film challenge. that’s why we have gathered here today to talk, discuss, remember how it all happened, how it all began. anton, and we launched from baikanur on october 5 , and our crew, me, yulia and you, we launched on a soyuz rocket, at that time oleg and pyotr dubrov were already on the iss? yes, that's what happened. tell me, we ordinary cosmonauts are seated in a rocket in 2 hours. you were with us special, people in our crew, well, they planned 2.5 hours, so you remember what you did for 2.5 hours, i think this was due to the fact that i, as i found out, was then the tallest, uh, participant in the space flight, who flew on union ships, they just wanted me to suffer longer, due to the fact that it would be extremely uncomfortable for me because of my height to be there, i think it was due to this, that they just wanted me longer, so to speak, i felt this

discomfort, but what were you thinking at that moment, well i thought, look, i was thinking mainly about how i would start filming, how it would all be, how we would fly, my head was full of this, i can say so, i probably abstracted myself from all this nervousness due to this, some kind of fuss, emotions with... with the start, which intensified, especially on the day, on the day of the start, due to the fact that everyone came to baikanur, well, just everyone, relatives, friends, it was all extremely emotional, wrote down the wishes of our friends, loved ones, some farewell words that we farewell, it all sounded like farewell words, there was a feeling that we would return in 3 years, 15 years had already passed on earth, and accordingly, it was as if we would return to a completely different world, so it was all extremely touching, emotional even on the way here to the rocket on the bus, so there were a lot of emotions

and my only way was somehow a little less from this. to abstract yourself is still to immerse yourself in at least the mental filming process, i kept thinking, well, now okay, we’ll take off, now the camera is there, i’ll get it, i’ll film it, how it will all work, well, there were basically some thoughts related to this, of course, i didn’t have as many tasks as you did at the very start, i just, it seems to me that he performed three or five or four functions there, in the sense of switching something, opening valves, rpb, and so on. or you’ll kick me or you’ll kick me, you’ll say cream , so let’s open these valves, that is, i wasn’t even afraid, no, i wasn’t afraid, because, well, listen, no, well, first of all, first of all, it’s not like it wasn’t even

time, i still knew that you were nearby and you would cover these functions, the shooting functions were entirely on me, so because of this i was a little nervous, so basically i was doing just that, to relieve nervousness by thinking through, as i shoot, we can see exactly

the moment our rocket launches. well, yes, i remember it all very well. listen, well, you see, it’s all shown like that, everyone looked at it like that, but we didn’t see it all, we were sitting, yes, we didn’t see all this beauty, we were sitting in closed, so to speak, like this one on the capsule, where the windows had not yet opened, that is, we couldn’t look out the window like that , so for me it was basically a similar feeling to how we were sitting in

simulators and this everything was worked out, well, it just happened, the overload began, vibrations began and all that, so basically, some kind of epic feeling of this and the power of this start that you feel when you watch this, then i didn’t i can say that i had it, i had it it’s more like when i look at this, i’m like wow, wow, it was so huge , everyone looked at it like that and so beautiful, so beautiful, it turns out it was, and when the fairing came off, you saw something, yes i just it’s just that i, as a commander, can’t see it, well, we, as commander commanders, can see it, we can only understand the mirror a little bit, that as soon as the fairing was opened and it flew off, i looked , of course, already out the window, i already saw the ball, there were already already the outlines of roundness, and this is it it was already becoming interesting, i thought it was already possible and i started shooting, but i started filming almost immediately, yes, almost yes, after a while, that is, in the film we see those first frames that you shot with this small hand-held camera, yes, it was

a fairly professional camera of very good quality, but it was smaller than a movie camera, it was right when we reached weightlessness, we quickly took it out in parts , i screwed it together, assembled it, turned it on, checked everything, everything worked and we started filming, i was filming right up until i remember, you also said, look there, no, look there, freeze, no, there, left, right, no interfere, you tell me, don’t interfere, i have already tried to carry out some directorial activities, but in many ways i. i tried, since the camera was already in zero gravity, it was already beginning to live its own life when you let it go, i still tried to feel what it was, because it was impossible for us to test this on earth, to practice our flights for weightlessness of everything only there for 25 seconds, during which you don’t really have time to get used to it, i began to get used to this feeling of weightlessness, and directly here is the camera, i remember it

flew back and forth, even she flew away to yulia, her back to me, well, that is, i started playing with it, until some point i was filming, well, i was filming right up to the docking, until the battery ran out, and you, you, what did you feel, were you nervous at all, because i don’t remember you asking you about this, well , how would you be, in my opinion already... the first time you flew with two unprofessional flights, even a little on purpose - the ship was retrofitted, that is, i got another remote control, these are the buttons, let’s say, with which controlled by an ordinary flight engineer in the place you were sitting in, i had to control it, but i think it was made precisely for this purpose, so that if something suddenly goes wrong, i won’t have time to explain to you which button to press, which cap open, where to switch, i had to do it myself, well, you didn’t hesitate , i was a little nervous, now i can admit, no, i wasn’t nervous at all at that moment, well , not nervousness, i think nervousness, responsibility appeared when we the automation system failed

when the main one failed, i’m even sure now i remember that i thought, as if on a simulator, that now the backup one will turn on, well, this is the equipment and we will get there calmly, these are the words from the head of the soup, which anton said, we will leave the communication zone, if this one, the second set, fails, yes for you, take everything manually and dock yourself, in general, in theory, when such a docking occurs, well, with emergency signals, i have to stop the ship, retreat to a safe place and then hang near the station and wait for the ground command, when they measure everything, calculate the required one there corner there will be a sun that will illuminate the target so that the earth can see everything, as soon as they decide that everything is fine, then we will go, for some reason it was not said here, in short, if it refuses, but the second one has already refused... that is, this it wasn’t the first connection that failed at the beginning, and then the second one, no, they entered the shadow, no, i remember exactly that both of them had already failed, firstly, because i actually have filming of this, so the failure of the second course,

that’s me too took pictures, and no, yes, well, we already, after that they just said that now you are entering the shadows, the connection will be lost, dock manually, since i shot the film salute 7, i know a lot about manual docking , i know that all this happens in connection with so for me this moment was very unexpected, yes, that they said that, i’m not at that moment i was so nervous, i just knew approximately, which means i thought that damn, well, what’s the worst thing, the worst thing is that they could probably return us to earth, if anything, well, yes, myself, well, that is, i understood that we were here we won’t explode now and we won’t scatter across space, but we had a double feeling, because that when we got one refusal, then a second refusal, we first wanted to evade, we were a little happy, yes, and then we thought that in the household compartment there were all sorts of bonuses flying for us, delicious, and we then began to think that fresh fruit is better, how much

you, you heard everything, you’re at the station, no, we heard the entire radio exchange, and when these refusals came, we immediately tensed up a little, we understand perfectly well what anton’s situation is now, that, well, roughly speaking, he doesn’t have an assistant , that’s right, why all the actions, i knew quite well about manual docking that handles? they didn’t give it, i, in principle , i knew the principle, so no, he was an assistant, yulka in this sense, she volunteered , so to speak, to carry out, make calculations, i and i just realized that you don’t need to interfere, so it was right, i realized that i wasn’t making any calculations about my face, i removed the camera from the camera, i realized that it’s better not to touch you, i won’t make any calculations, if you tell me to do something, i’ll do it, and me it was also stressful that the connection went out and we went into the shadows, i just look, we’re just we’re sitting, camera, yes, yes, yes, this is just from the camera, it was surprising to me that we still went into the shadows, then when you said that i was even more comfortable in the shadows, then i exhaled a little, that is, i

there was no nervousness, yulka and i really looked at each other then, and i saw fear in her eyes, but as if in my eyes she was in yours, i had no fear, as i say, i only thought, damn it, well it would be a shame not to make it, i now understand that the earth knew that, well, i don’t know 90%, that we would get through this failure, they for some reason they didn’t tell me this, but do you remember they added training for me on the bike, usually we , well, 5-6 days before, we stop all these, here i have two times every day before lunch, after i sat down with my hands, i didn’t know why, they tell me, well, the schedule requires connections, and people still come there and film you, that you’re not hanging around there, you haven’t gone somewhere, i’m sitting , well, klim came in force, he’ll take a look, well, they’re connecting, well done, oleg, you were in such a situation, would you manually dock, we didn’t have docking, you didn’t, no, there wasn’t, re-docking? there was a re-docking there was, but manually from the beginning, not every cosmonaut dreams of docking manually, because you really control the ship or redocking, because i flew before without redocking, that is, i didn’t really touch these handles, that is, that’s why you know

when they say, you control spaceship, of course i was lying, i say, yes, of course, i’m the commander, i think, i didn’t touch these handles, and now i can tell everyone, of course i controlled it, and you touched it, but it’s true that there is a backup set at the station, that you can dock the ship from the station, just not the pilot, no, just the truck, physically he couldn’t help us in any way, physically no, morally yes, morally we were for you, i say, again there was a double feeling, that is, it seemed like we had to complete the task, on the other hand , before your arrival, we didn’t have a single... not a single erroneous action, and when you arrived, as soon as you arrived, there were refusals, i understand, now it will begin in any case, a series of brutal murders continues in the city, the fourth victim has been discovered today on the outskirts of the city, we were left here alone, but how did people find out what happened here, many children were taken away, the victims knew

each other, here in this town? tied up, so those here don’t show anything, what do you want from me, they came here to catch a freak, here you go, stop messing around, savchenko, you just arrived, you leave marks like a tractor, i came to do business, and i’ll finish this job to the end, well, how do you like him, i don’t want to work with this scumbag anymore, they throw him around the districts, on difficult business, a very conflicted comrade, you’re in the police, aren’t you? yes, our city is small, you can’t hide anything, i need to know everything, every step , i understand, our territory is large, there are many cities, so look, territory, soon, on the first, turn around, a person, as a rule, dies at

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is not necessary. exclusive with dmitry borisov premiere on saturday on the first. we continue our space stories podcast and with me today are the heroes of russia, cosmonauts olek novitsky and anton shkaplerov. do you remember the first time you met, well, yulia, or izlim, too, at the station? no, i remember it perfectly, because first of all, to arrange a normal meeting, as crews greet, that is, when the entire station crew gathers, you fly in, we hug you, but why did they set priorities differently, that is, they will already be filming a film, that’s it, we set up cameras somehow, and you they flew in one at a time, there were practically no people there, and i was probably somewhere in the fgb already, a sick cosmonaut was waiting for you, in short, they explained it to you incorrectly, but everything was wrong then we hadn’t shot the film yet, because we wanted to get together, as if you were flying in there

everyone hugs in this module, you know? there it’s cold up to your shoulder, they send you a little further, they meet the next person, but here it didn’t work out like that, a little bit like confusion, well, a little bit of miscommunication, but apparently it happened, because we were really filming, but this moment is like, well, you remember , we then filmed it after a new one, we filmed it again, well, okay, this is us, this is us already on the first day, but let’s go back to the beginning of all this, this idea, when you first learned about what’s going on this idea, from whom and what it was your reaction to this, probably then? know that person, someone came up with everything, right? yes, in general, who had the idea, namely, uh, who told you this, for example, to you, oleg, who said it first, i don’t remember now, because these conversations about the flight of, let’s say, a film crew, they started like- then it’s been a long time to talk about it, we didn’t really attach any importance to it, because it was a little funny, well, guys, what kind of film crew, what to get an actress, a director, and there were different such trends, once they tried there was only one actor, yes , must