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[000:00:00;00] and they said everything is not nuclear, but our inspectors say it’s possible from the ground, they say it’s possible , but we won’t do it, it’s not provided for in our instructions, or they took and declared three minutemen there for training, what such training is is not clear, that’s why all this , all this, so to speak, is quite alarming, and then came the recommendations on the actual capacity building, firstly, now all... uh, debates about the need or unnecessaryness of the ground component of the triad, that is, the rocket missiles, have stopped, they will change to sentinels missiles, that is, too ground-based ground-based, yes, they had a discussion, they believed that this was unnecessary, their main, main striking force is submarines and strategic bombers, now all these discussions
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have stopped, plus they believe that the columbia class boats, which will enter service from the thirtieth year, only 12 pieces, this number should be increased, the number of b-21 bombers should also be increased, the composition of non-strategic weapons should also be revised, now they only have b61 bombs of various modifications; they believe that it is necessary to have ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads and return nuclear tomahawks. that is, to diversify your air defense potential and strengthen everything, that is, there are a lot of practical recommendations that are aimed specifically at increasing the power, quantitative and qualitative composition of your nuclear forces, they were late, yes, here they are, when obama was pushing for the ratification of start-3, he managed, or rather the congress,
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the republicans, the senate managed to squeeze out of obama a commitment to modernize the triad, a figure was even named, this monstrous trillion 300 billion, but since the time of obama they have been moving like this, not shaky, not slowly, now they will certainly accelerate. so, uh, it's a bit of a worrying conclusion that they'll speed up. i want to ask you, alexander dugin, not as nuclear weapons specialists, although you also, of course, have your own... position, i still want to ask you, as a philosopher: there was a time when in the nineties many believed that since nuclear weapons were not applicable, then, in general, if someone wanted spend a little more and place a little more, well, let them indulge, when i look at this document, which i must
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admit, unlike the general... i haven’t read it yet, i’ve only read individual excerpts, but i have a feeling that they declared their readiness, their intention, to create armed forces that will allow them to simultaneously defeat russia and china , including in a nuclear war, this is called creating absolute superiority, this again, i just want to understand, here you are: this worries , or do you think that, most likely, russia will still have the potential for retaliation, the possibility of deterrence, the americans will never dare to undertake any crazy attacks, so hesley wants to engage in such nonsense, let him amuse himself, well, first of all, nuclear weapons were used, and used , so visible and bright at the end of the second world war
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against the americans against japan, and any weapon, if it exists, it theoretically under certain circumstances can be used, and there are no laws that could to prevent this, this is very important, a certain situation can always arise, political, military, economic, whatever, diplomatic, which will make the possibility of using strategic nuclear weapons possible, corresponding... real, so we must treat this document in the most serious way, it seems to me that the jokes are over, faith in someone ’s rationality, in someone’s ability to negotiate, in someone’s good intentions on a universal human level, you just need to be like, well, with this say goodbye, yes, we once believed in deterrence, we believed in balance , in nuclear parity, but today one of the parties, which
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was considered parity, says: if i maintain this parity, it will not be for long, i am rapidly going to get ahead, parity - this is not a goal, on the contrary, i want to get out of this situation, essentially. challenging us to a new arms race, i understand that for 30 years, or probably already 50 years, we have only heard: no arms race, no arms race, well, no arms race, which means there is no our our sovereign country, in ultimately, we didn’t start it, we wanted to avoid it, we did everything to come to an agreement with the western partner, here we are, they are challenging us that the west, america is taking an unambiguous course, clearly, clearly, openly formulated to create this absolute nuclear superiority, which leaves us, neither china, nor the rest of humanity, not a single chance. we don’t, just in response to this, all the talk
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about what we believe, we don’t believe, they just seem frivolous to me, we need to think about how we can defend our freedom, independence, and how this can be prevented if it can only be prevented by creating , but if you like some kind of... or even an asymmetrical system that really ensured the destruction of the enemy, well, if not preserving us, at least together with us, because if we have this argument will not be at the new stage, then we can assume that russia simply does not exist, yes, again , since i have not read this document, i reserve, as it were, my final opinion until that moment and i can speak about this more competently, but, but becomes, of course, it’s somehow alarming, i still want to understand what they mean when they talk about the possibility of completely winning a nuclear
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war, especially in light of the fact that the general noticed that they claim that there cannot be a tactical nuclear war , that is, it would seem that if their conclusion is this, then they should logically say that we cannot allow any nuclear war at all, but apparently they have some other interpretation, senator you have the last word and comment on the news that we just received that the minister of defense great britain has just arrived in the united states, this is natural, suggestive, perhaps suggestive, understandable, but this does not mean that my suspicions. it’s quite possible, on the other hand, but where else should the recently appointed, by
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the way, british defense minister, who has already been noted for several such awkward statements, go, other than to fly across the ocean, as they say, both for a report and to receive instructions, most likely so, then, well, let ’s not forget, but the british are even more categorical than the americans, as they would say, we will have to fight, yes, for sure, for sure it will be about not only some global affairs, not only about the middle east, but also about ukraine too, let's not forget that all this continues , as for the report, i haven’t read it either, well, i hope that someday i’ll get around to it, but i want to draw attention to this purely, i would say, excuse me, literally literary feature, in this report and in a number of others... doctrinal western documents, primarily american, have become two terms appear in relation to us and the chinese, the first is aportunism, we saw it here, the second is revisionism, you know, i smelled of some kind of
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discussion of marxists of various shades 12 twenty years ago, the only thing missing is the renegade kautsky, that’s it. this word is renegade, renegade - it means one who has left , and a refusenik, let’s put it this way, it seems to me that this... term is applicable precisely to the americans, to deep regret, what do i mean if the elder generation, such as the same kissinger, of that mentality were are characterized by at least some kind of self-restraint for the sake of self-preservation, then these current feelings have absolutely lost their permissiveness, and accordingly, there are no restrictions, this is very sad, this is very sad, and this also reflects... the trends, let's say, of the decline in the level of american democracy, because that when we used to talk about congressional debates, we saw
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serious people discussing serious topics, and of course, it was not always very serious and it was not always constructive, but at least it was somehow relevant to real, serious problems now... but it just very often descends to the level of some hysterical screams and primitive slogans, so i always, when i look at such discussions in congress, i want to hope. that we shouldn't take them too seriously, and that it basically reflects a certain political culture at a certain time, but nevertheless, nevertheless, they are going to build these systems, they are going to do reconversion, they are going to prepare those who read these reports to the idea that a nuclear war can
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be won, without worrying about it. it will be difficult, it was a big game, we’ll meet tomorrow on the air, you’re watching the podcast precious stories, me, its host ekaterina varkan, and today our guest is the people’s artist, sergei petrovich nikonenko, but in addition, our favorite actor is wonderful , he is also a great admirer of sergei alexandrovich yesenin, put great effort into preserving his memory, and i know sergei petrovich that you have been to konstantin many times, and i have been too, and i remember how i was still a little girl, i was there for the first time
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, my parents brought me, all the girls love yesenin, so i come out to this shore, beautiful, i see how i understand why he wrote such poems, only there it was actually possible speaking, this is the kind of poetry to write, this is the air, this is how hands are made, a very beautiful, magnificent place, you know, i first came to konstantinovo during the filming of a film about yesenin, and when we arrived, i went out for a walk, went out for ... church, and there it is begins, a boy of about 10-11 years old rises towards me with a broken face bleeding simply, right there in front of my eyes i remember meeting a frightened mother, i muttered through a bloody mouth, nothing, i tripped over a stone, it will all heal by tomorrow, i him i asked, guy, what are you doing, where did you hit yourself like that, he says, but on a bicycle he decided to ride off here... you’re cooler, but it’s impossible, it
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’s simply so cool there, this cool guy is so incredible, well, that’s it first impression, and of course, this space, which probably gave birth there lines from sergei alexandrovich, goy , my dear russia, huts in the robes of the image, no end in sight, only the blue sucks the eyes, well, there you go. we went there many times, once there was a wonderful incident , we went there with andrei geogrevich bitov, and he sat down near the church, you are familiar with the pebble, he sits, meditates, also yes, 5 minutes pass 10, he still sits, 40 minutes pass , something happened, we come up, touch him so carefully, and he looks up and says: this is how you’ll be the same as a primary school teacher
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in konstantinov, he says, we went to drink tea in the house of the landowner kashnoy, which has now become from the house, the house the literary museum of anna snegina - this is one of the first museums of literary characters in russia and met the main curator of konstantinov, lidia alekseevna arkhipova, here we sat on the balcony in the museum, which means this is just... the anna snegina museum, kashina’s former estate , so we sat and talked, and our actor friends were there too, and there weren’t enough stools to read poetry, because everyone i wanted to say so, climb in and something like that about russia, having understood here, well, here we are having a conversation, which means we are having a cup of tea, and lydia alekseevna suddenly tells us: do you remember this story, that there was some kind of ring that the empress gave to sergei alexandrovich, well, yes, we remember
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in the memories of rings with an emerald, it means, well, it seems, so what, no one saw it, no one heard it, she says, this is reality, the legend becomes reality, there is a ring, we say, how can this not be, in great amazement, well , in fact, the history of this ring is such that, so to speak, let’s start with the sytzeleds, yes, the first one the world war began in the fourteenth year, everyone began to be called up to the front in the sixteenth year yesenin was called up, but in a way. so to speak, with the help of defenders, assistants and so on, he did not get to the front line, thanks to rasputin, well, thanks to various well-wishers, so to speak, mainly raspotin. served as an orderly in tsarsko-selo military sanitary train 143, her imperial majesty empress alexandra fedorn. in the same sixteenth year it is known that he went to the morfmarine monastery, which elizaveta feodorovna, and there i also received
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dear gifts from her, the gospel from the library and the icon of sergius of radanish, which these memorials are now kept in the museum, we. we know, yes, and we saw them when we visited there, so to speak, this icon, and in 16 , on the name day of maria fedovna, the dowager empress and grand duchess maria nikolaevna, a concert was held in the fedorovsky town, where there was an infirmary at which yesenin was, so to speak, assigned, and yesenin was invited there, among other famous people to perform at this concert. so he read poetry, read his russia, maybe some fragment, sergei petrovich, do you remember from the repertoire that sergei alexandrovich read then?
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well, he could have already read the same poems that he read to the block , let’s say, play, play talyanochka, raspberry fur, come out to meet the bell, beauty, groom... turquoise, i’m playing on talyanochka about blue vaselki’s heart glows, burns in his eyes, and this or the smell of loose, masturbated, there is kvass in the container at the threshold, two lines, and it’s already clear what wonderful food the peasants had, masturbation is a very tasty food, i often visited the village as a child, every morning, this is lard, potatoes, onions and many, many broken eggs, not eggs, but an omelette with milk, mixed eggs were poured, this was jerked off, also with kvass, yes, what are you talking about, well, but sergei alexandrovich’s memories relate to the poem rus, and he noticed that the empress, after reading these
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poems, told him that, sad the poems are very beautiful, but sad, i answered her, that this is what our whole russia is like. and for this performance, which made a strong impression, yesenin was granted a gold watch by the empress, alexandra fedorovna, but the gold watch did not reach him, according to the version, it remained in the pocket of a certain colonel loman, who was then the commandant of the infirmary in the fedorovsky town, but the ring with the emerald, which was also granted, still reached him, he received it, it’s interesting that there was actually such a thing. history of the russian state, gnedich for the translation of the iliad, which means zhukovsky, for all the merits and upbringing of tsysarevich,
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yes, these rings, by the way, they were included in the official’s form, were considered a separate reward, and empresses are simpler than rings. not with diamonds, but with simpler stones, it’s boring, a simple stone, yes, but in any case, so to speak, one way or another, yusei had a ring, but no one had ever seen him, and he somehow talked about it didn’t say , maybe in soviet times there was no need to advertise, so to speak, imperial gifts, maybe so, but i have a feeling that he didn’t really like jewelry, in any case, not in any of the photographs... no, rings, yes, he has a bow tie, a top hat, he has a pipe, he has a cigarette, and such things, they are usually, if you love, yes, then you, like -
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then you are trying to show, here you should say a few words, on july 17, 1916, when yesen was serving in the hospital as a nurse, this commandant called him , loman said: the royal daughters, they should be greeted with greeting poems, sit down, write, wrote, in my opinion, these verses are simply prophetic, when they arrived on the 22nd, of the month of july, mind you, july 17th is a difficult day, exactly 2 years later, day after day on the night of... they will be brutally murdered in the basement of a patiev house in the city of yekaterinburg, here they arrived, four slender, thin in white clothes, well, birch trees
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, and he... responds with a welcoming poem: the crimson glow, the sunset is whispering foam, the white birches are burning in their crowns, my poem greets the young princesses, the youthful meekness in their tender hearts, where those are not pale and sorrowful torments, and not to the one who came to suffer for us, they stretch out their royal hands, blessing their future hour of life, on a white bed, in the bright brilliance of light, the one whose life they want to return is sobbing, the walls of the infirmary tremble with pity, which is constricting their chest, pulling them closer and closer with an irresistible hand, to where death puts its seal on the forehead, oh, pray,
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magdalene, for their fate. montechoca cognac, product of stetel group. you are watching the podcast precious stories, i am its host, ekaterina varkan, and i am supported today by people’s artist, sergei petrovich nikanenko. and we are talking about sergei senin, interesting things, that accompanied his life. we continue our conversation about the ring, here is ledia alekseevna, we are still sitting, drinking tea on the balcony, so she says that just imagine a few years ago, well, when this museum was already being organized by anna snegina, news suddenly appeared about that not far from konstantinov there is, so to speak, this ring, this ring was brought by two to three... yesenin’s second cousin
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said that in 24 yesenin came to konstantinovo and went for a walk in klepik, to introduce himself, so to speak, in full glory , and passed by the village of kobylinko, where maria lived, it turned out that maria was getting married, he did not have a gift, and he gave her this ring as a gift, generosity. it had no limitations, yes, but on the other hand, i could get rid of it, because it was impossible to wear, impossible to show, you know, yes, here is the royal right hand, yes, here, we took a photograph of this ring, that is, this is practically the first photograph , amateur, not very good quality, but it’s on those pianos, which means they carried out an examination there, naturally, there’s a coat of arms there the royal family, the crown, here... the royal, well, the imperial master, but unfortunately, the emerald turned out to be chrysoprase, but for us it
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’s a ring, so to speak, well, okay, yes, well, not such an expensive stone, yes, but for us it’s does not matter at all, because what matters is the fact itself, the acquisition of this memorial thing, amazing in the hands of yesenin, yes, so maybe he carried it in his pocket along with kukish, you know, my god, my god, and in fact, this cabochon cut is round, it is usually just they make not very high-quality stones to hide the cracks, so maybe, so to speak, they didn’t immediately determine whether it was emerald or chorisoprase, but the examination determined, everything was confirmed, so, in fact, maria ivanovna lived a long life, in the ninety-third year she came to the museum and offered this ring to the museum, and some collectors found out and offered money, but she said that she still wanted this thing to be in the museum, she sold it for some
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ridiculous money, as they told me then, a kilogram two or three, sterlady, price, here, well even now it’s more expensive to sterilize, but in principle it would be enough for you and me to rummage through our pockets, but time has still been saved, technological progress has saved for us another such miracle, but besides, so to speak , those who dared made recordings of their voices at the beginning of the 20th century, who dared to take a photograph in the middle of the century, yes, that’s it, but as a matter of fact, yesenin still made several recordings, you and i know, yes, my favorite recording is the monologue of the flapper from
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pugachev’s poem, and we are now we have such an opportunity spectators who have not heard, bloody mud, what are you, death or healing to kolekom, lead me, lead me to him, i want to see this man, i have been looking for a bass gun for three days and three nights, the clouds of the north have fallen out, stone... bust, thank him, he’s not even the one who loves everything, but the riots of judas, i wandered along the paths for three days and three nights, looking for luck with my eyes, the wind scratched my voices as if in a straw, and
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wrapped the rain in flails. that a special death will never get lost, this head of the neck is not easy to knock off, orenburg hall, a red-haired camel, dawn vomiting, not a mouthful of milk, cold, prickly, howling through the darkness, i pressed it like bread from... for centuries, lead me, lead me to him, i want to see this man, absolutely amazing, it’s so dissonant with his appearance. so angelic, yes, when i first heard the voice, i even had his voice, well, somehow i imagined it was a little different, yes, an absolutely amazing
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impression, so i noticed about myself, maybe you will agree with me that when you meet the greats, yes, that's how you approach them you get closer, it’s very contagious, and you fall into some kind of addiction, then suddenly you notice that you’ve already rolled up your sleeves , pulled up your pants, working for your idol, tirelessly, you can’t stop, what i mean is that you starred in the film, they played yesenin, and after that, it means there was no end to your work, you decided to organize a museum. you did it and are still doing all this, tirelessly, that is, this is some kind of contagious disease, sergevich, tell me, that means, on the old arbat the museum is located in the house, in the apartment where he lived, with his first actual civil wife, as we say, anna izryadnova , tell me a few words, you have an apartment there, where you lived in a communal
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apartment, house 4 in apartment 14, the whole house was given to the employees of sytin's printing house, and there, in all the apartments and even in the twenty-first apartment, as i found out, yesenin's friend lived, to whom he came, i should say there, i was already familiar with these descendants, and when i arrived, he said, yes here is the table at which yesenin sat with my dad, i have this table today, you immediately have it... step away from this table, i have it here , it’s in the room, anna romana, this table is worth a fair amount, well, this is it, but maybe i wouldn’t take on the creation of a museum, ekaterina yuevna, then i was inspired by another idea:
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alexander pushkin lived in this courtyard at different times, andrei bely was born there. when coming to moscow, he stayed for a long time . alexander blok barbat lived in the 51st house, and vladimir solovyov also lived in this courtyard, he was such a mystic poet, so i took it, although i was warned, they say you will lose your health, but nothing will work out, servich, i know that you didn’t lose everything , in my opinion, servich, i know that you brought us an interesting thing, an incredible precious relic, this is a postcard, which, this is a copy, a photocopy from that postcard, because i gave it as a gift a year ago , to the yesenin nature reserve in the village of konstantinovo, this is the fifteenth year and it was sent from the village of kuzminskaya, and kuzminskaya is simply
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a continuation of konstantinov’s body, this is what one... small village, from there, here is stempel, kuzminskaya, he sends it to a volunteer sasha, who worked in a magazine for everyone, it was called a magazine for everyone. that’s what’s written here, it’s written here, here’s a volunteer, dear sashka, i’d spank you by your whips , but you won’t get me, why did you promise to write a letter, but you’re hiding, it’s not good, brother, every day i go to meadows in the ravine, i play in livinka, the other day they beat me, it was great, i almost lost my head. you know, i gave the headman an awesome headdress, and one of them sang and hummed at night
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her, the socialists are trying to indoctrinate me, i’ll get them all anyway, i’ll catch them, they’ve smashed my livenka, now hold on, there’s a recruit for me, and the men are afraid of us, dear sashka, write quickly, and bow to anna karlovna, anna karlovna, she was the editor of this magazine for all my detractors, they wouldn’t give us half a ruble for poetry, or they wouldn’t go around and fight like heifers, this is very petty here, petty, petty, attributed, of course, i really valued this postcard, but i couldn’t keep her, because she still must return to where it was from, so i not only do not regret it, i am very glad that it will now remain there. sergei petrovich, well, after all, you also have family things there, as museum workers say, that is, things that belonged to the hero, so i know that there is a razor, yes, yes, that’s where it all started, that’s ninety
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fifth, the photography is also amateurish, you see, this is a small machine, two small pencil cases for dangerous razors, there was this razor, but there was also a soap dish, there was also the most important thing in there is a razor shop in st. petersburg, i don’t know anything else, how to find it, st. petersburg is not a small city, i ask the artists , he says, i heard, i haven’t heard, no one has heard, one artist says, you know, i think it was shown on tv, already the circle is narrowing, i’m on television from st. petersburg, and they say, yes , it happened, they showed who it is, says? boris nikifor kravchenko came and brought this shaving device and showed it on tv, they gave me a phone number, i called boris,
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he said, but he had already passed away, he was no longer there, who speaks, says, this is his son stanislav borisovich, borisovich, you saved the razor with which your dad performed on television, he says, yes, well, let ’s get acquainted, come, and i came with a performance, come to the performance, he watched the performance, the next day we met, and when i came to their home, already to stanislav borisovich yar-kravchenko, i found out that, firstly, anatoly yarkravchenko, people’s artist of the ussr, was there, even with whom nikolai was very familiar alekseevich klyuev, and in general they have this living room reminded me of a room that is dedicated.
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nikolai alekseevch, here he is depicted on the right, with whom he became friends with one of the first, at first there was a block, the block was handed over to gorodetsky by yesseinin, yessein, and gorodetsky had already met klyuev, him, they even performed together, but then their paths quickly diverged, although kruev believed that he raised yesenin, no, this is not true, yesenin. on his own individual path, like those of buddhists, like a rhinoceros, he walked his own path, did not replace anyone, with him, he, if necessary take something better, he, he took it and quite quickly, like a sponge, he absorbed from these same emojiists, who, in general, were not very good for him, a single genius, a single glory, such individuality, well, it’s no coincidence that the block when they say, today i have a ryazan... guy, the poems are fresh, vociferous, verbose , he put a full stop and wrote the most precious word for a poet: language
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, that’s it, the poet is accomplished, he has his own language, his own world, his own figurative structure, if you want, this is how sergei aleksandrovich yesenin was, well, as a matter of fact, as far as i understand, that this device, it’s in front of... bleeding, and you’re still looking for some , you understand, you should have completely different tasks there , what are you writing about, give up your old believers, shave your beard, handed it to him, at the same time handed it to him, since this is written in their newspaper, they published it, and what i saw is that in this family the klyuyevs are very respected, and even on
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the suitcase that they packed for me, klyuyev, it is written on copper plates, not planks, they are, of course, metal plates, and also a very beautiful crystal glass, it was a gift to me, so a woman brought a crystal glass, she came to my museum, she looked, i gave a tour, showed her everything, so she says, but i didn’t come to you empty-handed, you know, ilya ilychneder gave this glass to my father. such a box of cookies, well, laid in cloth, she brought this glass, on which, on the lids of this box of cookies, pasted a sheet of paper and the hand of ilya ilvich schneider, director of the esidor duncan school, from the twenty-first, he writes there about forty-nine, i think the school existed for 28 years and even during the war, can you imagine, sosidor and duncan drank from these glasses.
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no, he says, he writes there, he’s just describing it, he says: i brought this crystal glass from home to be cleaned up, it stood in a glass slide, in osidor duncan’s room, he says: eseino loved this glass, always drank from it, and even for years the years are marked, and that he was, and i knew him, ilya ilyich, schneider, he was already in his tenth year, he passed away in seventy- eight, so he gave this glass then to his friend, and his friend’s daughter brought me this with this description, and such a primitive question, but the amount of liquid there, how much does the glass hold? it looks very respectable, it’s like this, but i tried it on, it’s not, i wouldn’t be a museum worker, 50 g, yes , in total, oh, modestly, you could drink vodka straight from this glass, i’ll even tell you
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i’ll say longer, seryozha has no hands, when he was going to... play on the eve of playing yesenin in the cinema, he came to me and said, petrovich, let me drink from this glass, everyone would have asked, yes he asked, from the museum, and drank, took communion, i like to do things in museums, i don’t mean drink, but touch some things , wonderful, you still have wonderful, remarkable things that i would like to talk about, and we will show it, this is a spoon, yes, a spoon, which idilia zinovievna gave to me, she was the widow, great-grandson, lev nikolaevich tolstoy’s nephew, her husband was the nephew of sofia andreevna , tolstoy’s granddaughter, so her nephew , the nephew passed away, she found out they saw zinovi, she called me and told me, she found everything me myself.
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and i came to see her, then she came to see me at the museum, looked at it, then decided to give away this silver spoon, this silverware from clear polyana, the already widowed wife of olva nikolaevich tolstoy, sofya andreevna, gave it to her grandchildren, among the grandchildren of her granddaughters, sofya andreevna was a granddaughter, she was the daughter of andrei lvovich, there was this spoon that fell in, she could feed. we continue the conversation about sergei yeseninin, our guest today is the people's artist, and i am
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the presenter. she tells the following story, well not their acquaintances, but their so to speak, some kind of developing relationship, this story, as far as i understand, she transferred to the literary museum, along with a certain thing that we will now talk about, she says that in june of twenty-five they were walking with yesenin around moscow, who forgot then in moscow there were a lot of wandering musicians, puppeteers, organ grinders, fortune tellers, well, sofya andreevna says that some fortune teller came up to them, a parrot for... yesenin pulled a ring out of his hat , bronze, small ring, and this means that this ring was given to sergei alexandrovich , and this is like a sign of two young people walking , this means that a parrot is pulling out a ring for a man,
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we have photographs of this ring, and she told everyone about this when she handed it over this ring is already in the literary museum, in my opinion i also wrote poetry about it. as soon as you called sharmanko, i remembered this poem, yes, yes, yes, and on september 18 yesenin married sofia tolstoy, maybe we’ll listen to a poem about a parrot, let’s read it, of course, because that sergei aleksandrovich dedicated a poem to this plot, and in fact, i immediately remembered, uh, this poem, when you said the word sharmanka, yes, there is a link just to... yes, yes, yes, yes, apparently, it’s been like that forever by the age of thirty , having become more and more enraged, hardened collections, we keep in touch with life. darling, i’m soon turning 30, and
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the earth is becoming dearer to me every day, that’s why my heart began to dream that i was burning with pink fire, if i’m burning, then i’m burning, burning, and not... the flowers are getting stuck, i took out the ring from the parrot , a sign that together we will burn, then the gypsy put the ring on me, took it off my hand, i gave it to you, and now, when the barrel organ is sad, i can neither think nor feel timid, a swampy feeling is wandering in my head , there is frost and darkness in my heart, maybe for someone somehow you gave it to someone else with a laugh, maybe kissing you until dawn, he questions you himself, like a funny, stupid poet, you brought him to sensual poems,
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well, well, this too will pass early, it’s only bitter to see life and the land in first time like this... from a bully, he was deceived by a damn parrot, thank you, yes, this is a description of that moment in the life, life period of sergei alexandrovich, summer, early autumn, you know, somehow he already felt that he had experienced so much, how many roads had been traveled, how many mistakes had been made, these are lines from his own, here and he was already... old, he was already wise, beyond his years , well, you know what i feel, i keep remembering that balcony from which we started, and there were a lot of photographs shown, local residents, children, local village
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kids, relatives, well, people with whom i lived, yesenin spent his childhood, i had some kind of delusion that he was an alien of some kind , that is, he seemed to have been thrown there from somewhere, he was different from them in everything, they are good, they are good, but he is completely different, you constantly confirm, my thought, atasinki will still give birth to oranges, but sometimes you know, this was noticed by the priest of the village of konstantinov, the rector of the church of the kazan icon of the mother of god, father ivan, who said to yesenina’s mother tatyana fedorovna: “take care of the boy, and when he said , when yeseen was 5 years old." he says: what is it? father ivan, he says, you know, i have four villages in a row who don’t come to confession, i can’t compare your boy with anyone, he is absolutely amazing in confession, from here it seems to me that this is still poetry, but
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incredibly confessional, he he doesn’t embellish so much either himself, or events, or conflicts, not joyful ones, of his life, everything about him, you know, is incredibly true, an alien, again there is another saying, an apple from an apple, so i have a feeling that some kind of apple from this apple tree, it flew somewhere into space, and then god fell all over the place, so he writes hooligans about this apple in his confession, not everyone can sing, not everyone can fall like an apple at the feet of others, not at their own relatives, but the world has already rolled somewhere. received the empress's ring. but he died in december of the twenty-fifth year as a russian poet
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, you watched the podcast precious stories, i am the presenter ekaterina varkan, my guest is the people 's artist of the rssr sergei petrovich nikanenko, together with sergei alexandrovich yesenin, a russian poet, thank you. hello friends, this is the podcast life wonderful, i am with you, its host, writer, alexey varlamov, my guest is a wonderful director, evgeny borisovich komenkovich. hello, evgeniy borisovich, hello, professor, thank you for taking the time to come to our studio, i would like us to remember a little about the person whose name the theater bears. which you head , the workshop of pyotr fomenko, that’s what kind of man fomenko was, why he has
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a theater, why just a workshop, pyotr fomenko, tell me a little about him, it’s very easy to talk about pyotr naumovich, because that if we somehow try to disassemble him into components and classify him, then for me it’s a very big question what comes first, he as an artist, a great one, or as a person. very often, when you meet people who knew fomenko personally, they first remember some meetings with him in life, and then they remember his performance, it happens , of course, the other way around, but for you, for me, everything is mixed up, and it generally seems to me that this is that happy case when the way a person lived, he did the same thing, with pyotr naumovich, it seems to me, a priori, it could have been boring, that was simply ruled out, yes, he had
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long, difficult rehearsals, sometimes he rehearsed for years, but it was always very interesting, everything he did, and this, it seems to me, is where the profession of a director begins , he was always tormented about what he was doing, but if he suddenly didn’t understand, well, some period or some part of the performance, he could simply get sick and disappear there for 2 weeks. for when he came, but this is probably a common place in theater circles, but everyone knows that if some not-so-best student asked him to help analyze the play, then pyotr naumovich opened the list of characters and asked the student a question: well, who loves whom? in my understanding, in general, flamenco and love are some kind of synonyms, and love, well, not like, say, romantic , or some kind of mundane, but some
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kind of love in full, so how can i explain this, very often goes to the theater, i think that young people don’t always go to the theater, because for young people the tempo is theater, such unhurriedness, detail, it can sometimes be boring , but pyotr naumovich, he always brought the detail of existence to some unimaginable limits, he could rehearse some kind of exit, like all his great predecessors, that is, the detail of human behavior, it was understood down to the micron, but can it be said that this is how stanislavsky’s system was, this is how fomenko’s system was? i won’t undertake this, although i am sure that it was, because i came up with my own definition of pyotr naumovich, it seems to me that... such, well, today, such the last poet in the directing profession,
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