[000:00:00;00] life today means you are trying to forget, no, they ca n’t forget, i think you need to remember, you need to remember, so to speak, not to be forgotten, this is all for a reason, it’s all part of the path, so the thief had to be crucified next to christ, in order to understand who is hanging on the cross next to him, to shout to him, changing the lord in his kingdom, when the kingdom has arrived, this is also a terrible path, he killed people, he definitely visited ado, before that, here, behold, that time i was the first to enter heaven, we are today gathered our thoughts about russian rock as a cultural phenomenon, vyacheslav butusov, alexey belov, i am vladimir ligoi, we continue, i want to return a little bit to the search for generations, because among people

, yes, that means in different spheres of culture. at the same time, when we were looking, we were all looking, yes, there were these searches in the cinema , now we have a film about balabanov coming out, here was slava’s anniversary, everyone gathered at my house, they gave interviews, quietly, hello, hello, and here they are celebrating, no, no, glory, what are you talking about, i said, the very top to the left, o' sorry, you have, a person, experience, yes, interaction with him, that's how, how do you remember it, now? firstly , alexey and i knew each other for a long time, starting from college times, then he moved to st. petersburg, then i ended up there, yes, she read the world like a novel, i

once gathered a crowd. phone number of the morgue when she is not there. at home for too long, all this time, so to speak, we were watching each other in the sense that he was building a cinematic career, and all this was happening before my eyes, he naturally, so to speak, i watched what was happening with us, at a certain stage

i already had thoughts, well, somehow that... we need to help each other, so to speak , just on this path, yes, on path to god, i may not be a very good, so to speak, assistant in this sense in terms of eloquence, to pronounce the necessary words, yes, but one way or another, in general, i tried to talk with alexey on this topic, but sometimes he takes a long time at that time there was a categorical relationship, because he was very passionate about cinema, for him it was the whole world, in where he lived. was in charge, everything else had, so to speak, applied significance to this, as it seemed to me, but as you can see , at the end, so to speak, of his path, relatively speaking, professional and human, he still came to this topic, i tried for a very long time to persuade him him to film some kind of fairy tale or something like that, well, relatively

speaking, yes, i even had options. various stories were written for synopses, and every time he told me that i’m not ready yet, i’m not mentally ready for this, i want but i’m not ready, well, as a result, the last film is actually such a parable , by and large, all this is already happening there in this abandoned bell tower, and the film itself,

the name of the film and the essence of this story, that i... that's a strange story, right? i know, how it fits together, you said correctly, how to connect this with what we are talking about, that’s why for me russian rock is a continuation, russian literature, let it inherit russian literature, because russian literature is what gives us a space of meanings and language, yes, we speak with these images, we remember these heroes, and the same russian rock, yes, here are your songs, they enter our lives, it’s interesting that soviet cinema was the cinema of our language, yes, that’s post-soviet, how i mean, maybe many people won’t agree with me, but by and large, the films brother, brother 2 , those that have entered the language, it seems to me that here too... it comes together, but these searches, some... then internal and well, the result, yes, when something made by a person becomes part of the language, of course, yes, but i i also wanted to add that in addition to literature ,

symphonic music is still of great importance. i have been actively interested in this in recent years, and i can say that there is a lot in academic music, in symphonic music. such a pressure that sweeps away even worse than rock music, you know , it was a cool lesson for its time, just yes, time forward is just a concrete example of the fact that it’s a bulldozer that you can’t fight against, just look, we’re talking about the bright future of russian rock they said, they said about symphonic music, but young people, let's be honest, don't listen, not all of them, young people are different, yes, any generalization is unfair to anyone, but still today they don't listen to rock the way they listened, so once upon a time, yes, some time ago, so i may be sharpening, yes

, well, intentionally, but i don’t see in modern russian music, continuity with the great russian literature, with the great russian culture with russian rock, i don’t see it there, i'm wrong, at one time such a terrible word of music appeared... it appeared in the nineties, the word format, then everything began to be divided, because before that everything was somehow together, if we take there , let’s say, there are the seventies, there is rock pop music and some kind of disc, it was all together, and then it began to be divided into formats, and then trends appeared, rap didn’t just appear, you don’t need to know anything in particular, you don’t need to study music especially there, make yourself these... beats, so to speak, there and then talk , what came to mind, this is it, and it’s also supported by the industry, it’s itself in itself, it would not have existed for a long time, this is also a stage that says that everything should begin, so to speak

, to develop in a new circle, and this will not go anywhere, and over time, it will be those seeds that are the most tenacious that will germinate, that is to the more interesting ones, which have some kind of meaning behind them, but still, one way or another, music, yes, at the core, as a manifestation of culture, literature, yes, this is a connection, this, this symbiosis, and they are always there for them people will come back because this is actually folk art, you are amazingly diplomatic today, in russian, modern rap, i don’t know what it’s called, there is a connection with great russian literature, do you see it, or do you just hope that there are more opportunities there? for literary manifestation than in rock, because there you need something, something to broadcast constantly , and a lot, there are a lot of opportunities, yes, yes, yes, another thing is how it is used, it is used little,

unfortunately, you and i today, of course, we had so much theological and cultural and musical, not i’m afraid of that word of measurement, but i know, in conclusion, what i would like to ask you about since we... today we talked about russian literature, so if i were to advise you to our contemporaries, foreigners, to get acquainted with russian literature, well, after some work or work i, i won’t say there, name three there, yes, but that’s what first comes to mind, lies on the heart, what would you advise first of all, i’m always ready to easily name pushkin, he also has poems and prose, yes, this is one circumstance, the second circumstance is that he reached such

heights in poetry, which are already called fairy tales, and in poetry, well, actually, in general, pushkin is our everything, yes, yes, nikolavich, what would you advise, well, i would probably, fished before... this is a man who discovered it for himself, said that he writes about terrible things from a position of light, not everyone can probably understand this. but nevertheless, i said in some interviews that i just had such friends who, uh, they are such cult musicians, there and before they are still iconic musicians in the west, now we have been to such very interesting gatherings, where you come to such a house, and people walk around in clothes from the 16th century, so the hostess sits down at the piano, everyone came just for this, they start playing neoclassics as so interesting, then they start... then it turns out that one

of the people, such a leading screenwriter, golivotsky, i didn’t even know, he wrote so many films, so we just talked with him about literature and when i said the word dostoevsky, and his face suddenly changed, he changed, he became completely different, a friend bowed like that, i think he was bowing to me or something, i bowed like that, said, oh, dostoevsky, and of course, there are people who understand this, understand, sooner or later , after all, i was listening to you just now, i recently watched some series, an american detective series, there are two detectives sitting in a car, one opens the glove compartment, there is an idiot dostoevsky, he says, a good book, that doctor says, dostoevsky, he says, well , the book is good, and the second time he doesn’t even say anything to him, he just looks at what explain to you, thank you, dear friends, i will endlessly thank you.

today we had cult musicians alexei bilov, vyacheslav butusov, i’m vladimir ligoida, we were gathering thoughts about russian rock as a cultural phenomenon, thank you, this is love, mom is a deception, and until the morning i’ll be drunk, whiskey drugs, into the clouds, you are not mine, you are not mine, this is love, it is deception itself, and until the morning i will be drunk, whiskey anesthesia and clouds, you are not mine, you are not mine, you are not mine! and i’m not yours, our

conversation, drunken pain, time has passed, you’re cold, now i’m with my hand, and you’re busy, and maybe it will be better now, i picked up the keys, but didn’t open the door, and i’m so sorry that you’re not shining for me, i’m mortified that you’re not mine, this is... love, self-deception, and i ’ll be there until the morning, whiskey narcos into the clouds, you're not mine, you're not mine, this is love, self-deception, and until the morning i'll be drunk, whiskey narcos clouds, you're not mine, you're not mine, wop-wop, you're so beautiful,

clap-clap, i'm leaving the archive , i’m admiring you, you’re a diva, from what movie, i really want to get away with you, i hope i can do it, but you’re not mine and i’m suffering, this is love, self-deception, and i’ll be drunk until the morning, iskinkos in the clouds, you are not mine, you are not mine, this is love, it’s deception itself, and until the morning i will be drunk, whiskey drugs in the clouds, you are not mine, you are not mine, hello friends, this podcast is not the format of the place where magic happens music, completely unexpected duets happen, as always, today my... wonderful knowledgeable ones are karina cross, vali carnival, behind the group is the gypsy band, i’m anton lavrentip and today

we have fantastic guests, under the track of the artist who came to us today, and i rocked out in nightclubs, this is how i developed hair and i imagined that i was in her videos, charming , charming, incredibly impressive, anna pletitneva is our guest today, thank you, and they say about him that he is like timothy shalom, but only better, because he... also the musical guest of the uniform is the amazing incredible amirchik, hello, hello, you are being compared to timothy shalom, absolutely right, why, let's see, no, ours is better, which one of them? you, i still don’t look much like the guy on the right in the photo, who was when the photo was taken i did it, it was six months ago, in my opinion, how quickly you are growing, i already managed to cut my bangs the day before yesterday, just at 4:00 in the morning, i got up like that, i want to cut my own bangs, guys also cut their own bangs, so yeah

please tell me, are you familiar with each other’s work ? , i want to tell you, i just got carried away by your concert, it was so cool, you started with social networks, that’s right, well, that is, you’re an internet artist , well, you can say so, you can tell me, this is how it all began, it all began, well , even if you dig into the root, it all started with a construction site, and quarantine began , i, in order to help my parents, and financially, i then had a very big goal, you know, for me at that time the global goal was to get braces for myself, because i had an even more beautiful smile, so i went and worked with my father from morning to night, uh, for 900 rubles, if you convert it into rubles, yes, i saved up for braces, helped

financially, i saved up for a phone, i didn’t have time to save up for a phone, but after quarantine i took off, at least asking friends for their phone numbers in order to shoot some videos, post them on social networks, my first cover, first cover - the group is probably nervous , i'm too in love, any of the artists you covered, did they somehow play some role in the fate of your development as an artist? and of course, the spendthrift matvey melnikov, who dropped me off and wrote to his story, immediately suggested, let’s come to moscow, let’s talk, let's get acquainted, maybe we can move together, work together, how do you like the younger generation of artists in general, well , i like this young generation, this boy suits me, just fantastic, just fantastic, please tell me, your song is experiencing a completely second wind, now, yes, i in an unreal high, because well, it’s true, some kind of revolution - in show business, when a song 15 years later, and which 15 years ago in the same way

blew up all the dance floors and turned everything upside down, but the laws, templates, i don’t know, everything, everything changed in this world, everything everything everything everything. and we became number one and were in all the charts, only then the charts were different, not digital , but 15 years later, when now i see that our song has been in first place in all numbers for a whole month, and this is right it’s felt in the air, it’s also felt because i go out on stage, see a completely new audience, and there really are guys like this coming, like that, but it’s relevant , the same timothy shalom there 10,000 timothy shalom, it’s very very, honestly, even for me it's very nice to see this, because i almost knew sanya as soon as i moved to moscow, i began my journey as an artist , let’s say how you met, where you met, and we have one very magical friend and comrade, you know, and my manager, my

director elizaveta, her manager director, carry one comrade for two, i propose to perform a song, perhaps with a freeball title, you made this song... yes, the singer valeria, yes, yes, yes, with permission, valeria, yes, of course, that’s later, later, well, between the lines of a blank sheet, you cannot find the answer to the question, higher than any height, the world is in which i carried you away with a crystal dream, the tear melted. in my shining eyes, and the distant stars are burning with desire, listen , i want to say, a droplet of the sky, i will lie on your

palm, the sky was tired, the suns will be filled with love, a drop of light will fall on your eyelashes, and in winter. i’ll take this with me, like a drop of heaven, i’ll lie on your palm, palm, i was tired of not being, the dream will be filled with love, i’ll fall like a drop of a bundle on your eyelashes, and from winter to summer i’ll take you with me, like a drop of heaven, it was so gentle and kind. how beautiful, how beautifully you sing in it, and now let’s check your musical listening, observation, now you will hear your own songs, but they went through our musical meat grinder, and guessing your song will not be so easy: the one who guesses the most of

his songs wins. should we reach there? no, you have to stand opposite each other, yes, and go there, whoever guesses right presses a button and says his answer, let's go, as they say, not a bad boy, so what, this is love, well, look, even a chance, i didn’t even give it a chance, but i wanted to say, the sign of aquarius. that means we’ll remove it, well, in general, i mean, it's the other way around, yes, right, right, right, well, well done, moscow, and right, right, one one, but this is yours, bad girl, yes, well, i pressed first, okay, that's it, come on, come on, speak up, bad girl, speak, bad girl, next song to the studio, and the world has passed, cape, cape, dance, dance, it's eve, eve, eve, right, right, right, right, right, the count is 2:2 and now we

we turn on the next one, and it’s already 2:2, not 3:2, yes, no, not 3:2, at least once, oops, the score is 3:2, the last musical segment, well, i don’t believe it, my song, well, you give a point, yes, of course, of course, well of course, well of course, i don’t believe you, the last song, so friendship didn’t win, incredible amazing won, so, well, our dear guests, come on, shoot, with whom you already have fits with whom you want to take in the future, i now have a super fit with skidri, with an injury, these are very cool guys who in my future i will confidently break, it turns out that they are freshmen, freshmen, yes, of course, or maybe with would anyone else like it? maybe someone, maybe someone likes one of the young people, here we have amirchik coughed, for some reason, i won’t sing with amirchik, he already sang with

everyone, but that’s it, that’s it, i’m offended, mircea, who are all these in a row, and i already managed to make a fit, with our beloved everyone, marie crambery, yeah, but i managed to make a fit smot, i made a song with my friend, very close to haru, and this is a south korean artist. well, but the song is in russian , i also have a song with a european artist named kriya, sorry, it’s okay to speak english, yes, your pronunciation is excellent, and it’s beautiful, by the way was my debut song with release on the worldwife level, i gained a lot of listeners abroad and i have already managed to give 24 concerts in germany over the past six months ; i just arrived 3 days ago. i had a tour of southeast asia, malaysia, indonesia. we have just started talking about concerts, i... i know for sure that you will have a solo concert soon, i will have my first solo concert soon, i will have a birthday on october 20, i will turn 20 years old, and

this will be in honor of that i want to give my first solo concert in moscow, i’m waiting for everyone, congratulations, and this will be a very cool show, i assure you, and as some people say there , it will be the most expensive sound, it sounds good, forgive me for my modesty, please, but yes, do you have any surprises to look forward to? well, of course, of course, but i don’t want to talk about the fact that we will have the coolest show and the coolest scenery , sophisticated sound and but i will say, but i will say that there will be a very interesting innovation, and i will have 3d costumes, i want please note that our place is sacred, it is magical, and absolutely unimaginable things happen here. unexpected fits, i suggest taking two of your beautiful songs, combining them together and

seeing what comes out of it. this is love, deception, and until the morning i'll be drunk, i'm not... a bad girl, not a new beast, smoke adrenaline, my lullaby , emptiness inside and you've already decided that you will do everything for sure, my mind sings with your beauty, yes, there's emptiness

inside love, self-deception and until the morning. i 'll be drunk, you'll already decide what you'll do, everything 's for sure, bad girl, pay attention, i 'm choosing a novel, i'm writing a novel, roma, roma, roman, roman, the man of your life, i'm writing a novel, roma, roma, roman, roman, the man of my life, i'm writing. novel, roma, roma, novel, novel, and roma, roma, roma , you have something else prepared, something else prepared, maybe we’ll change the chords a little, easy, tears are salt, and then

water , and i’ll try for a verse, time is under guard. there, two loves passed somewhere, that’s normal, and if you don’t want a third love like that, let everything be as the monologue of your soul decides. you are venus, i am earth, eve, i loved you, i listened to your posts, i found myself in each one, why did you stop me, eva, i loved you, i listened to your records, i

found myself in each one, i got it. eva, i loved you, this is a very iconic song, as i understand it, is this a coincidence, a song not dedicated to eva, of course, tell me, the fact is that at one time alexey romanov and i, with my partner, a songwriter, we guests from the future attended the band’s concerts, and i’m a huge fan. eva polnoy, a terrible fan of this group, and lyosha and i actually met in an accident when we were driving to concert, we crashed into each other, and we decided while we were waiting for the police, then it was still different, traffic police, yes, and we decided that we would be together, in general, that’s how the group vintage was created, before that it was in group of the lyceum, the famous ensemble, how did it happen that you left there like that

, from the accident like this, and this is a sign yes, yes, i, this is a very long story, the fact is that it seems to you that like this, so i was in the lyceum group, i left, i was in the lyceum group for 8 years, was it the accident that had such an impact or was there some other reason that you or just grew up from no, no, no, no, i left the group before that and at that moment i was in such a search, and i understood that i had to continue, and then i was looking for my authors, looking for studios, in general i was in such a process, and when i moved into lesha, i just realized, this is it, this is fate, it’s not just like that, this. this is really true, i’m sure that we were just thrown together , yes, but this is how everything happens in my life, and i left the lyceum group for love, and tell me, i got an incredible fan, and we had a terrible romance, and we were forbidden since it was, yes, and since it was a women’s group, the producer was

strict, and he forbade it, he said, you can’t, you can’t have affairs, but my fan, he didn’t freeze to death, well, in general, history of history , in the end they told me, choose either him or, the group, of course, love , please tell me, this is how relationships influenced your work in general, every time a work of art was born, it happened for a reason, a real song, it should have this background, this should happen a magic kick, in general the artist must be in love, hungry, preferably, and suffer, then it turns out this is the ideal formula for a super hit, please tell me, is it true that at the age of 10 you fell in love with presnyakov, you wanted an article because of him, please, tell me

, this is something interesting, oh , my god, this is actually this... an incredible story in my life, at the age of 10 i fell in love with presnikovo, i covered my entire room with his posters, every night i fell asleep, i looked at him in your eyes and said, i will give birth to children from you. five at once and it’s really like that i thought and really visualized this picture, but more, probably, thank you, yes it’s beautiful, more likely, not some kind of personal story, but i dreamed of becoming a singer, so that someday i could sing with this man on stage, stand next to him and sing about love with him, it’s true, a lot, a lot of time has passed and i was already singing in the lyceum group and the first time i met him, we were flying on tour, and i told him this romantic

story, of course he was very surprised, a lot has passed years, and i had a solo concert, i invited him, wrote for him a song about this very love, it was called my amsterdam and he sang with me exactly like in my dream. from childhood, then soon we are walking empty, along the street together, we wandered in jokingly, we are on the walls of the rain, the light touches the wet windows, only you and i are not there. we did not know that then, as if bound by the rain, in

our despicable castle, we entered this castle from the fire, only yours, you and i, and were there for such a long time. place, we were saved, in this castle from god, only yours you and i, in the most lonely place, you, me, this is very cool, this very cool, thank you very much, it’s true, it’s true, it’s an incredible story , every time i see vova, i say thank you to him every time, but the really funny thing is that i remained his fan, everyone laughs at me, we’re in the same

we are in the team now and every time vova comes to some kind of lectures , everyone is sitting, and i’m the only one, i’m nervous, my voice disappears, and i really start to stutter, and i still can’t talk to him, he’s above me everyone laughs, it’s just that bob’s islam laughs too. but that's really true i just remained that same little fan girl who made her way to him in the olympic, ahh to the stage to touch his hand, listen, valentina, and you somehow kept silent that you came out with a fantastic song on which already 100,000 people made a video, and mine, yes, well, i’m just like that, well, i’m sitting there, doing something, something, let’s do something, let’s be so kind as to turn over the chessboard, come on, let’s talk about yours song, how was the song born just in the studio, man, man it’s encrypted here

by the way, it’s really popular, it’s really this song is now gaining such huge momentum , i don’t even know, it’s comparable to my first track, which caused a boom in the psychiatric hospital, they sang and they know it, it seems to me that everyone, now my new song, all the girls need the one with whom their light does not go out, like behind a stone wall with a red thread on... so it somehow sunk into people’s souls so quickly that now there are already tons, tons, tons of views, i really liked your new song, but tell me why this song, s what does this have to do with? most guys often think that girls need money, cars, some expensive jewelry, of course , we need this, wait, well, no, no, no, not in that direction, i just want to convey, probably, something simple, that it is much more important for us to feel supported. there is protection nearby, when you just look at a person, and your eyes sparkle just because this little man is nearby, you want something so real and absolute at some point, and somehow

this song was born in the studio, what do i have to do with it initially i didn’t place any bets on it, but every person i played it to told me like, wow, when it comes out, i’m like stop, seriously, just like wow, ladies and gentlemen, it’s not a format on the first channel in the podcast we have a premiere, carnival with a song on this stage. everything seems okay, but it’s still not the same, then everything is inside, then again a minor, then a smile for no reason, then a shiver to the skin, waiting for the green color at the intersection with a black cat, make-up, but left on the pillow, on the pillow, alone , yes, and no time for girlfriends, they listen to them tiredly, everything is around

so boring, he's waiting like... he's dizzy, all the girls need someone with whom their light doesn't go out, like behind a stone wall, with a red thread on his wrist, full of butterflies, belly, heart is tearing into pieces, you wrote before him, seven mistakes in the word happiness, all girls need someone with whom their light does not go out, as if behind a stone wall, with a red thread on his wrist, a belly full of butterflies, his heart is tearing into pieces, you wrote before him, seven mistakes in the word happiness, all girls need yes, love. knowledge, like a screenshot, your heart skips a beat, it sings past the notes, you look for it with your eyes shoulders, among passers-by, he would warm your cold palms, always like that with one and of course, a broken heart, although time heals, still a little man needs a little man, all the girls need someone with whom their light does not go out, like behind a stone wall , with a red

thread on the wrist. a belly full of butterflies and your heart is tearing you apart, you wrote before him, seven mistakes in the word happiness, all girls need someone who will fire them and not gas them as if behind a stone wall, with a red thread on your wrist, a belly full of butterflies and your heart is tearing you apart, you i wrote before him mistakes in the word happiness, all the girls need it, how did it happen that anechka pletitneva was the lead singer of the group. and a superfan of punk rock, as a child, firstly, i grew up listening to music, and i went to all the rock concerts, i still remember the concert of the group kings jester, my god, how cool it was, this was when gok was alive , it was simply unreal, yes, i was just tearing my clothes, that is, that’s all it was, they threw me on stage just like that, like a ball, i’m from there,

well, in general, i have such a very stormy, youth and i sang in the group children's panadol, this is a victory, this is a punk group, you know, yes i know, you know, we had a super hit, don't hit me with a cart, don't hit me with a cart, it was about grandmothers who are in metro, and i just feel myself, every time i go on stage, i am reborn into yakurka bein, damn it , i suggest checking this moment now, i was promised that everything would work out, my heart would be able to deal with resentment, no one asked in my heart, and they didn’t ask me either, they promised me that everything

would work out if i suffered long enough, they even gave me strength, they deprived me of singing, the constellations, are your songs fair, are we changing them or did they understand, why were you invented in the first place , the sign of aquarius, i gave everything and i don’t regret anything, i gave everything and there’s nothing left, and so many people were lost nearby, i i’ve never suffered from this feeling for the longest time, i gave everything and i don’t regret anything. i live on autopilot according to my horoscope , it seems to me the sign of aquarius, i don’t regret anything, the sign of aquarius, the person is lost, i