[000:00:00;00] you can eat, nezuev said this, listen, well, besides the help from the management , we need to help our mother somehow, the guys and i will organize everything, okay, so that he doesn’t go crazy, today was an eventful day in the world, president putin held important negotiations in beijing with izempin, the chinese leader, they had a long one-on-one meeting, ukrainian missiles, new ones supplied

by the united states. that is, we will later hear that they are not entirely new, but new for ukraine, they were installed by the united states, they have already begun to strike at russian positions, and finally, in the middle east in gaza, someone dealt a terrible blow to a peaceful hospital, hundreds of people were killed, and predictably there are disputes over who is responsible for this, but still according to the most... vivid statement, that's if to hold competitions, then i must say that the superiority still lies with the united states and personally, directly with president joseph biden, who declared today that he is immortal and that he will always remain at the head of the united states, do you think i

’m making this up, let's listen. i want, so you know you are not alone, as i said, we will continue to support israel in protecting its people, we will continue to work with you and partners in the region to prevent the loss of innocent lives. 75 years ago, your founders declared that israel would be founded on freedom, justice and peace. the united states stands with you in defending this freedom, in the pursuit of this justice in support of this world, today, tomorrow always, we promise you. we promise you. today, tomorrow always, this is not based on some kind of agreement, this is not on based on some formal obligations, no, president biden declares, today, tomorrow always, i want to remind you that less, if you want, dramatically with less pathos, russia was promised, in the late eighties,

early, the united states would not expand nato, and this commitment, it lasted exactly as long as the bush administration that made these promises lasted, but it ended, bush lost the election. he is a man, let's say, majestic and dramatic, and such a tone seems natural to him, even if many of us it seems funny and absurd, but it’s kind of about funny, there’s not

much funny in the world today, fortunately, today there are serious and, in general, encouraging events. senator andrei denisov, tell us what you know about the agreements, negotiations that took place today between russian and chinese leaders, and what you think in general about this visit of putin to china, what was achieved, and maybe something was not achieved. thank you. you used a good word, encouraging, when talking about this event. indeed, against the background of what is happening in the world there are still bright moments. as for the reassuring nature, it may not even be enough to define it that way for bilateral relations. rather, they are the results, the results of the visit, inspire confidence in the steady, consistent and dynamic development

of bilateral relations. but from the point. in terms of influence on the general world situation, they are certainly encouraging; after all , in the current turbulent, troubled world, there are at least some points of crystallization. around which can be built uh, well , something more reasonable than what we are dealing with we're facing, let's talk about this for a minute, let's listen to what putin then said about their meeting, come on, this confirms what you just said, we had a lunch, such a narrow business meeting, where a mini minister was present foreign affairs, assistants were present on both sides, and then, uh, he invited us to retire and we talked face to face , indeed it is, just over a cup of tea, so they also talked there for another hour and a half, or maybe two,

well some questions are completely confidential the character was discussed face to face, it was a very productive and meaningful part of the conversation, and now the chairman is strong in the development of chinese-russian relations based on constant good neighborly friendship, comprehensive strategic... coordination and mutually beneficial cooperation is not a temporary, but a long-term solution. next year marks the 75th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between china and russia. china is ready to work with russia, understanding the historical trend, relying on the fundamental interests of the two peoples constantly deepening our comprehensive cooperation. china supports the russian people as they follow their chosen path of national revival to protect national sovereignty, security and development interests. i think you were right when i used an encouraging expression, it was correct in principle, but it was also , say, too cautious, well, you know, in our time it is better to be careful, although in this case the vector of movement has been determined and i

don’t see , so that some external threats to the development of relations between our two countries - progressively and dynamically, a meeting of leaders is always a big event, we... in the case of china, our country, russia, are to some extent spoiled by such events, this is already more than the fortieth meeting of two leaders, since the thirteenth year, and every time, every time, this is not protocol communication , it is always some specific results, you know, a small detail, but i can’t help but voice it, i’m a small fan of simultaneous translation, especially in relation to chinese language. it’s very difficult to convey the meaning of what was said through headphones, but if at negotiations, this is still permissible, because there are more or less clichéd formulas, prepared passages, then during conversations in

a narrow group, and even more so one on one, this comes in handy an innovation in protocol practice that appeared not so long ago, usually communication between leaders consisted of two parts: a wide composition - this is a negotiation format, and a narrow composition, when the leader is present with, well , his closest companions, so here a third appeared, one on one , this is no longer the first time, and this is good, this is further evidence of such a close relationship between the two leaders, as evidence that they are tuned in on the same wavelength, i think that they didn’t even have a translator with them, no, there were translators, after all it’s difficult without translators, but when they translate sequentially, and i know these translators well. from our , from the chinese side, these are people with whom i myself have worked for many years, i am absolutely sure that the meaning was fully conveyed, which is very important in this case and

most likely at this one-on-one meeting, as at the last meeting, in march of this year in moscow, the leaders discussed a wide range of issues, but to some extent distant, far from, let’s say, practical cooperation for all its... importance, because it’s still, well, let’s say so, the agenda or program of our relations is so broad that if the leaders deal with specific issues, they will not have time to discuss more important, if you like, fateful topics, they probably focused on them during a narrow and one-on-one conversation, as our president said over tea, well when the audience is watching us listening, they, too, of course, most of them, were watching the news, so that you, as not only a former ambassador, a current senator, but also

a serious analyst, what would you tell the viewer was the most important thing at this meeting , well, you know, this is just quite easy, because the most important thing at this meeting was the very fact that it took place, and even took place in ... format, because the time of action, i mean mid-october, and the scene is beijing, the world capital. they simply encouraged discussion of the a wide range of issues, this is probably how it was, while some practical, let’s say, achievements, because viewers and listeners are always interested in what has been achieved, what has been signed, what is the result, what can be touched, as they say , with your hands, were outlined here very important things, but it is said that they will be postponed until a later time, because this is not always a presidential format, well, let’s say, we already

have a very serious, detailed intergovernmental agreement on economic cooperation, interaction until 2030, it will apparently be signed in the near future, but at the level of prime ministers, because the year does not end with this meeting, we have a regular meeting of prime ministers ahead of us until the end of the year, by the way, our prime minister, mikhail vladimirovich mishustin, has already been to china this year in may, but that was... a working visit to discuss current issues and get acquainted, because prime minister mishustin was in china for the first time in this capacity, he had a colleague, elected in march at the parliament session, a new chairman government of china, a personal acquaintance took place, now there will be a so-called regular meeting, as we called them more than 20 years ago, we have a visit ahead of the chairman of the state

duma. vyacheslav viktorovich volodin, a whole series of contacts at the ministerial level, so the work continues, i can’t help but remember one of the expressions popular in china by chairman sizinpin, lucy, which means, rolling up your sleeves, getting to work harder, that’s what we need to be done, i want to ask you about the protocol country of the matter, which you know very well, but to put it mildly, i’m not good at it. when they say that putin was the main guest, uh-huh, it was so, naturally it was assumed, it should have been, or vice versa, the chinese leadership specifically decided to emphasize his role, despite the predictable american discontent, uh-huh, well, you know, this is not the first times, this is already

the third belt and road summit, the first in 2007 , mainly among the main, let’s say, guests, the main guests are the heads of state, government, countries with an interest in this project, the belt and road project, to this fairly large-scale project of international partnership , as vladimirovich putin defined it, but look, in china everything related to the protocol is measured on apothecary scales, everyone saw when the doors of the golden hall, that’s the one in front we were just on the screen, the golden hall , in the building of the national people's congress opened and the guests went to the banquet, then sitenpin and putin walked ahead, even with some of this groundwork, it’s not just because they stood in front of the door, when it opened, no, everyone knew where, who was standing and other leaders , by the way, to say that last time, that

this time they did not object to such an arrangement, this is not an official title, this is not what somewhere, so to speak, it is written, but the chinese side said in advance that our president will be the main guest at the forum, this is so, thank you, let's now move to israel, where today the president of the united states was a very honored guest and how we already... there is a dispute about who is responsible for this monstrous blow to hospital in gaza hundreds of dead, and as they say, two countries, two stories, most arab countries support the palestinian version that israel is responsible, joe biden, joe biden said, let's listen to what he said. here so that the people of israel and the whole world know that the united states is on israel's side. you need

to make sure you have everything you need to protect yourself. we'll take care of it. it should also be remembered that hamas does not represent all the people of palestine, they only experience suffering. i'm sad and angry regarding the hospital gas explosion yesterday, from what i saw, it looks like it was done by a different team than you, but a lot of people aren't sure about that, so we have a lot of things to overcome. vitaly vyacheslavovich naumkin, scientific director of the institute of higher studies, academician of the russian academy of sciences, and i have known academician naumkin for many years, and i want to say that he is a very... unusual person, because there are a certain number of academicians who run institutes, and there are certain the number of great scientists, and let's just say, these two

categories do not always coincide, here is vitaly, that very happy case when a person was really remains a prominent organizer of science, but i have a simple question for you: do you believe one of these versions, or is there some- is that another version, or do you think that we need to figure it out first? well, first of all , i would like to express my sincere condolences, first of all to the relatives of all those people, more than 800 victims of this terrible crime, the injured people there, express my condolences to them, at the same time to everyone to the victims of this terrible escalation of the conflict, both on the one hand and on the other, now as for the versions, and to be honest, i don’t

know a single reasonable person who, despite the fact that i try to be as objective as possible, understand that each side, it has its own truth, so to speak, but i believe, i don’t know a single person who could believe in the israeli version, to be honest, in the israeli version, i don’t know a single person, i understand why you say that , well there are many explanations for this, firstly, this is due to the fact that it fell on this hospital, i think maybe a military expert will explain this to us better, because i heard this, i heard this from many people, this is the first, second, this does not fit into logic. on the other hand, despite everything, despite the fact that they also show cruelty and do a lot of things that we absolutely do not like and are unacceptable, our president spoke about this, that cruelty was shown on both sides, but the explanation for the fact that there is more a small group

than islamic hamas, even more radical, absolutely right, we know her well, that she fired a rocket, which either was, or... no, fell right next to this, on this building, in which the israeli side, as you know, suspected that there militants are hiding, in fact, civilians were actually hiding there, this version does not fit into the logic of the islamists’ behavior, but what about all this video that the israelis are showing, where a rocket was launched from gas. first goes up, and then abruptly changes trajectory, goes down? well i didn’t see any evidence in this video that it was a rocket launch error, well , you can show a rocket that veered off course, but

i personally didn’t see a real video that would show this whole story from above, i could be wrong, in this case, i’m trying to understand the situation and it still seems to me that i’m... i’m not blaming anyone now, i think that we need to sort it out, so returning to your formulation of the question, we need to sort it out, we need to sort it out by independent analysts, not one of the parties , which are accused of having done this, and some kind of independent international commission that would try to figure it out , because this is too terrible a crime that could be ignored, and despite all that, of course, israel has the right to then to defend yourself, that's what was done, i think it's somehow very bad, okay, again you said that you can't imagine anyone who would believe the israeli version, i just don't know , i understand if this means from your point

view that biden will not be able to convince arab leaders that it was not israel that was responsible for this heinous atrocity. it seems to me that he will not be able to do this yet, especially since today jordan has already canceled the quadrilateral meeting, although jordan is one of the most favorable arab states towards israel, which normalized relations long ago, restored diplomatic relations, and i think that everyone will be waiting to demand an independent investigation to expect its results with a presentation convincing everyone, if only they really twist the hands of the arab leaders, well, they may, creaking their hearts, so to speak, take some kind of neutral position or say that we need

to sort it out, well, to some extent i also stand for the fact that we need to sort it out, but to believe that an islamic jihad fired a rocket, it jumped out, fell and hit right where people had gathered, in such numbers, it’s somehow hard to believe, to be honest, it’s good, with all my... .' some in washington that israel will now call off the ground operation, or at least, will significantly limit its scope, but i believe that those people in washington, they are well known to me, i correspond with many of them, and it seems to me that the call of many, well, literally, now even in foreign affairs there was an article by kolinch, an excellent expert on the middle east, who proves that in general a ground operation is not in the interests of israel,

that it will lead to catastrophic results in legal, human, humanitarian, military relations, as well as the ultimatums that delivered to the residents of northern gaza, that in 24 hours they should take everything and quickly rush to the south, where the roads are destroyed, you can’t get there, where... there are no medical institutions to treat anyone there, where there are no food, where there is no water, where there is no electricity, the question arises, well, somehow it would probably be wiser to act, again, i understand the considerations that guide the leaders of israel, who slept through everything that happened , but you can’t act so stupidly, but where now to drive the palestinians away from the north, gases, who essentially have nowhere to go? they are not expected anywhere, neither in egypt nor in the south , and they are simply guided by the fact that now they will not

be led to believe that they will someday return back, they have already been through this, they they understand that this, that we are talking about some kind of plan for the depopulation of this region, its subsequent annexation, i read all this on arab sites, but on the other hand it’s not clear to say what on... israeli and partners in some... then the extent of colleagues who are trying this justify, from america i hear more and more skeptical opinions about these plans, but not in the administration in congress, that congress, i can’t say that i really follow what the majority of members of congress think, if so and so, i i think that in the administration, of course, they are clearly determined to support one side and think that now, if they all take it, move somewhere, leave, liberate the north, then

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of the stellar group. the grand prix. russia, live broadcasts, in weekend on the first, let's see , it will be very interesting, love figure skating, adore figure skating, appreciate figure skating, a big game is on air, an outstanding military expert, captain of the first rank konstantin valentinovich sevkov. called and cards in your hands, when we talk about military affairs in the country, including in the middle east, the first question is about the missile, the first question, do you have any opinion on this matter, of course, well, let's start with the fact that the hospital building quite large, there were 800 people there, at least if not 900, and this

in addition, there were some people there, apparently not only those who were wounded, but also those who were left without it, that is... ' to destroy such a building, in order to destroy it with one blow, the warhead, the smallest, is 400, 500 kg, you know, hamas seems to say that the israelis did it, and the israelis say that jihad did it, and why such losses, because supposedly there was hamas dynamite down in the basement, if there was hamas dynamite, there would be a completely different nature of destruction than what is shown, the building would have been destroyed from the bottom up, there would have been a huge crater in place, everything was scattered, in fact the building was obviously destroyed by a blow from above, which means the warhead is at least 400-500 kg, now more so to speak, i think the objective figure is about tons , the warhead that destroyed this hospital means that if it were a missile,

then for such a missile it should weigh 500 kilograms. parts are at least 2 tons, and with a warhead of 500 kg ton this is at least 2 tons, and with a warhead of a ton about 4, then if we are talking about a rocket weighing a warhead of one ton, then firstly there had to be large fragments, they are not a small rocket, a large one 4 m long, 4 weighing at least 6-7 m long, it needs a tractor, a launcher installation. 530 or something else, such as missile carriers, where these missile carriers could be, where such a launcher could be placed there, israel has bombs of this caliber, these are bombs, in my opinion , american-made mk83, they are equipped with a module so it is used with

high accuracy, according to navigation data navstar system, this bomb weighs 2,000 pounds, that is, 947, in my opinion, kilograms, if you count a pound and convert it into tons, that is , this is just such a warhead, it’s very similar, why did this tragedy happen one of two ways, i don’t want blame someone, the first option was a targeted strike with the aim of incapacitating and destroying those people who were there, among whom the israeli leadership apparently assumed a large number of wounded hamas militants, the other option was a failure of the guidance system, which led to this i don’t know if there was a tragedy in reality, but the fact that this is not hamas is absolutely certain, this is absolutely certain, now regarding the ground operation, a ground operation in such a region is extremely difficult, look at the tanks,

they move well, how these tanks can move through the ruins that were left between when these houses fell, that is, it will lead, will come in any case to close fire combat, within the framework of close fire combat, for a separate ruin, for another ruin, for some basement, israeli army artillery they will be able to provide very limited assistance to their fighters on the front line for the simple reason that the dispersion of shells and the accuracy of the target indication will not allow them to separate where they are from their enemies. hamas can give a thorough head start to israeli soldiers, who apparently do not have the same combat training as hamas, so you said about tanks and how they are deployed

in the city, well, i didn’t say that they might be in these ruins. people equipped with tanks will simply burn, which if compared to anti-tanks and missile systems, these ruins with the earth to such an extent that it becomes almost a desert. raze everything to the ground, this is this option is possible, this option is possible , this is certainly being considered and, apparently, a similar strategy is being considered, so they are saying that, apparently, the ground operation, the ground operation will be limited the fact that they will enter an already destroyed city, while it must be borne in mind that in these ruins there may still be soldiers in the tunnels and basements, they will be needed here pick it out, based on what i’m observing now, and the specifics, you said the failure of the intelligence system, you understand

what the point is, i don’t know, i won’t even go into where hamas came from, not everything, i’m just taking the organization of this strike , it was agreed upon minute by minute, once a massive missile strike , several... missiles in a short period of time, they had to be concentrated in a certain place, ensure massive changes, this requires a large number of launchers, massive use of drones in advance explored targets, these targets had to be discovered, disabling, or at least neutral relations, let’s say, a negligent attitude, of the troops located on the line of contact, their duties, which led to the capture of the headquarters, everything else there, so, joint actions of the airborne assault on paragliders, this is a unique story, this has never happened before, it hasn’t happened, we haven’t done this before,

an amphibious assault strike by mobile groups, on few highly mobile low-talking groups, my conclusion is very simple, that to prepare all this and it can be accomplished within six months, a year , under the only... condition, if the israeli intelligence system sits with its eyes closed and its ears closed. i agree with how blinken assessed it, i will say this. blinken said it very accurately, this is 9/11 for israel. he is right, we must remember that september 11 was for the united states what gleyev was for hitler’s germany. i will offer you one of my observations regarding this. how is it possible that israel overlooked the possibility of this attack? i'll start

with the soviet union, how many signals were there from soviet intelligence that hitler was going to attack, but they didn’t want to hear them, and they didn’t want to, there was force, and any inaccuracies in the investigative formation, they were interpreted, not as, if you like, inevitable, some kind of aggression, but as the fact that this the result of a deliberate british provocation and the question arose, why is someone in intelligence following the lead of the british, so as not to be unfair to stalin, in america, how many signals were there before the war that japan was preparing for war, how many? and when the story. they said they warned, but since there was a completely different mood at

the top, no one collected this information in a concentrated form, no one came to president roosevelt and said: “japan is preparing to attack,” they brought some pieces, some excerpts. and it was clear that those who brought them, let’s say, were not welcomed, because then the version was that the united states could calmly put pressure on japan, impose sanctions against japan and that this would not lead to anything serious for the united states, like this. now, the united states, again, attacking iraq in 2003, waved his famous test tube at the un to prove that iraq had weapons, mass destruction, and behind him, behind him, behind pavel’s knee, sat the director of the cia,

georgen, here he is now i’m watching, on our video, george tennett, george tannett was far from a stupid man, but he was a democrat, he was appointed by president clinton. he came not from analysts, but from democratic apparatchiks, apparatchiks of the democratic party, he really wanted to remain in his post, and it was important for him... to show his devotion, so he didn’t falsify anything, but he just organized, how to say, probably, the filtering of information, yeah, yeah, yeah, organization of information that, in general , a reasonable person could come to the conclusion, yeah , there’s probably something there yes, in washington now, i am increasingly coming to the conclusion that there, too, in intelligence there was a lot that they knew, a lot that they felt. but they had

the idea that it was necessary to concentrate on ukraine, that the united states did not have any other serious dangers, as they say, rush forward, so they didn’t share with the israelis that american intelligence had signals about a serious danger, in the latest case of israel itself, why didn’t they say that hamas was preparing for something similar? the point was that he agreed with hamas, that they allowed hamas to finance, that they opened, allowed hamas to open a port, and in general vitali knows this much better than me, it was netanyahu who believed that, in principle, hamas is preferable to fatah, right, right, so it was, therefore, therefore, here

israeli intelligence services, also politicized, did not do their job, this is for everyone, a good lesson for us, if possible, a small comment, very short now, in connection with this, since i am kind of aware of the debates that are going on around this case, very sharp and different points of view, a version is being expressed related to the role of iran, there is a serious accusation against iran, as if it almost prepared everything that hamas did and in general is behind it all, as such an aggressive hostile state, so it is absolutely obvious that all the debates that are going on, they lead to the obvious idea that iran has absolutely nothing to do with it, and even those people who represent the israeli establishment are former intelligence officers, today in moskovsky komsomolets there is an article by sasha bras, i i know him, such a former employee of the counterintelligence service, who is anti-terrorist, writes, well, complete nonsense

about iran, but iran does not need this and this cannot be, and i know a lot of people who laugh at this version, but this the impression that someone just wants any, any, like a bullshit, is said in a line as long as it is against iran, i agree, i won’t talk about the fact that we need relevant personnel where these same 5,000 missiles were concentrated , this is 500 tons of ammunition - this is a minimum, if not more, about 100 tons, maybe ammunition, that is... i can’t imagine how this can be done secretly, we go out for advertising, we’ll be back in just a few minutes, sergey bezrukov in the serial film by valery todorovsky bison, the case of a fashion model,

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the premiere is on sunday on the first. there's a big game on the air, we just talked about how they are trying to attribute some active, sinister role to iran in hamas's attack on israel, but what is not fiction is that iran has actually now stepped up its diplomacy, among other things and its place, well, let’s say, is incomplete, but significant reconciliation with israel, and of course, iran is helped by self-righteousness. and saudi arabia, by the way, too, saudi arabia, iran also made a statement that all the sanctions against them were taken by the un, that they, maybe not all of them, correct me, vitali, if i’m not saying clearly that most of the sanctions are probably the un, which were against

iran, that they expire today, and which means that iran will have greater freedom to act on the world stage. and it will be safer for everyone, including russia, to deal with iran. there is another a country that was also under sanctions for many years, and which, partly due to this , had, well, let’s say, not very developed relations with russia. and this is the democratic people's republic of korea. and russian diplomacy with korea, north korea, has been very active recently. and then the russian foreign minister, sergei lavov, arrived there straight from beijing, and that’s what he said there. we highly appreciate your principled, unequivocal support for russia's actions in connection with the special

military operation in ukraine. we are good we know that there are many countries in the world that share such approaches, such assessments, but only a few, even. the democratic people's republic of korea openly declares its solidarity with the russian federation, they have the opportunity to speak about it directly, and this opportunity is a distinctive feature of states, governments that are truly independent, that put their national interests before them and do not succumb to different ones. kidnapping by our westerners, in the same way the russian federation expresses its solidarity and full support the aspirations of the democratic people's republic of korea, thanks to the chairman of the state

affairs of comrade imchany, for defending their independence, the right of their people to determine their own destiny and the path of their development. and the senate gets the impression that not only russian-chinese relations are developing, but also russian relations with the korean people's republic, in general, it is obvious that this should happen in conditions when both russia and north korea are under sanctions, when they have same opponents, but here’s what i want to ask you about: south korea has been an important... good partner for russia for many years, and russia avoided sudden movements in this regard, has anything changed? well, of course, it has changed, the whole world is changing, these kinds of connections

between states are changing, well, if we are talking about south korea, it continues to be a potentially very promising partner for us, and if we can resume that level... cooperation, well, first of all in the economic field, who was with her, it would, of course, be good, both for korea and for us, but this is impossible, korea, unfortunately , stood up, not unfortunately, it was predictable, stood on the side, as they say, on the right side of history, as the americans say, and, well, even if not directly, but indirectly, it still strengthens ukraine’s defense potential in the confrontation with us during the special military campaign joined sanctions and in this regard this cannot cause any satisfaction, let’s say on our part, but let’s move on to the north korea, north korea or the korean people's democratic republic, this is truly an independent, small, maybe in scale, but an independent state

that is going, what is called in politics, its own path, and this was noted by the leader in his statement and this path, among other things, i repeat, among other things, not at all this is not what it all comes down to, pushing away or not taking any positive steps towards the country that is taking its position at this time, this is the first, second, korea was, north korea, the democratic people's republic of korea, was the most closed country during covid, there really a fly couldn’t fly across the border, it was for northern korea itself and for the people working there, including our people diplomats, for the neighboring countries of the democratic people’s republic of korea, now it’s over , this obstacle has been removed and , taking into account all the scenarios, both regional and

global, the time has come to simply transfer our relations with the korean people's democratic republic to the format of normal, normal, regular, friendly, good neighborly relations, this would be to the benefit of us, and china, which is naturally probably north korea’s biggest partner. during the visit , issues of economic cooperation will be discussed, there are certain difficulties associated with the security council sanctions regime, these are sanctions in in our country, such laws are put into effect by presidential decree, so we cannot simply take, as they say, and brush them aside, but it is quite obvious that when revising sanctions restrictions we must proceed from reality and not these far-fetched far-fetched schemes, it would be beneficial for us...' renewal of cooperation with the korean people 's republic in the field of human resources, which has shown its effectiveness over many

years and even a decade, but there are still a number of practical areas, many speculation about arms supplies from north korea, you know, no one has seen any evidence of this, and more than once our leaders, including military leaders, have stated that we simply do not need this, this is the first thing, second, korea just needs its weapons, because it actually confronts the americans on the korean peninsula, and just such a small detail, in the composition of the delegation, we noticed, uh, colleague, respected vitaly vyachislavovich, academician, rector of gimo, anatoly vasilyevich torkunov, who, generally speaking, is a koreanist by education , he studied the korean language, and many of his scientific works in one way or another deal with korean topics, or topics in northeast asia, so i... uh, i guess i can’t say what is this completely impossible, but i would expect the resumption

of our contacts in the field of education. we had very good connections with the korean university, many of our colleagues in the past studied at this university , for example, the head of the school of translation at the highest level of korean, valery evgenievich sukhinin, who was the ambassador to north korea, he graduated from full kursyansky university. i studied there for about 6 years, it will be beneficial, because our countries are developing relations, this, by the way, will be beneficial - for those who will resume sooner or later, full-fledged, full-blooded relations with south korea, because the language, as they say, is the same everywhere, and the korean language, like chinese, is now more and more valued, including by young people when entering higher educational institutions, and is simply in demand in real life, can

i say a few words about the historical memory of our connections with other states in this regard, then we have now opened new archival documents dedicated to the cooperation of the soviet union with the people, well then not yet was the people's democratic republic of korea when there was the korean war, and then there was the second indochina war. it turns out, as the documents show, that there was actually a quartet of states that formed a coalition; before, the role of the dprk was not very clear, but now it is clear that it was the prc, which at that time, despite ideological differences, worked together with the soviet union , this is vietnam, and this is the dprk, and the role of such a

soviet leader of that time as asia in vietnam is very well shown there played a major role in the development of cooperation between russia and north korea. i will say one thing that i will not ask you to comment on, because you are a member of the federation council, the first chairman of the relevant one. were adopted at a completely different time, there are sanctions against north korea, which therefore i will allow myself to say, as it seems to me something obvious, that yes, of course, and i have no doubt that if these sanctions were discussed today, russia and china

would impose. in korea, but there were soviet pilots there, the united states during the balkan wars as in late nineties. they, in the middle of those wars that i’m talking about, bosnia, it was forbidden to supply the united nations organization with weapons to bosnia and croatia. and one country, russia, observed this, and another country, the united states, but they took such a position, especially this position was taken by senator robert dole, who was then the leader of the republican majority in the senate, by the way in 1996 he was a candidate for the presidency, and in

a very worthy, serious man in many ways, a hero of the second world war, was seriously wounded, whom i respect, but he took such a position, but can technical limitations be more important than the moral duty of the united states to support the population of croatia, they took croatia and armed it in the most beautiful way, there were some secret operations, there were more than a few stages, there were intermediaries , but all this was done, it was the same in afghanistan, when we left and stopped helping in jibullah, and the west retained this support, thanks to this the regime fell very quickly, although i think it would have held on for a long time. i don't want to be a complete cynic regarding sanctions and international law, but i remember very well how an english lord spoke at the center of national interests when i worked there; unfortunately, i don’t

remember his name, but he was just the chairman of the international affairs committee of the house of lords. and i was amazed with what, with what cynical frankness, he said that, in general, international law, as opposed to the internal laws of each country, that in general it is something that everyone interprets in their own way, and that it is stupid to think that someone, when his indigenous nationalities are affected interests, will allow international law to be an obstacle, he smiled and added, i’m not saying that we will ignore... international law, but we have a lot of good lawyers who can interpret it, and in general we have creative people who know how to do this kind of thing, so again , without in any way creating the impression that these are russia’s plans, i think you also need

to understand that in the context of the modern world, naturally, russia must look, is forced to look under... at all aspects relations with iran with the democratic people's republic of korea than it seemed natural 10 years ago, and now i want to ask you, konstantin, well, here we are again , we hear that a new type of weapons was provided by the united states to ukraine, and we hear that already was no longer rumors, this is no longer just bravado in kiev, this is confirmed by official washington , let's listen to what president putin said about this, firstly, this of course causes harm, this creates additional

threats, secondly, we of course we can repel these attacks, and of course, i said that he does not pose a threat, this goes without saying, but most importantly, he is not at all able to radically change the situation on the line of contact, it is impossible, this can be said for sure, well , finally, a mistake already of a larger scale, still invisible in nature, but still having it. what matters is that the united states is becoming more and more personally drawn into this conflict, they are being drawn in, this is an obvious thing, let no one say that they have nothing to do with this, we believe that have, i, unfortunately, know very little personally about president putin, but i follow his statements very carefully, and i know a number of

people who have worked and are working with him, i know how carefully. he chooses his expressions, but if you want to give an accurate assessment of what the president meant, you need to look at everything he said. and i don’t think that there are any expressions there, just by accident, no, they are most likely there for a very serious reason. and putin said, as it seems to me, two things at the same time. the first thing is that the supply of this weapons cannot radically change the situation on the line of contact, cannot radically change. i interpret this in such a way that this does not mean that ukraine will succeed with the help of these... it will not succeed. on the other hand, putin said that this is, of course,

a serious situation, that this, of course, could cause harm, and that this could turn into a serious problem for the united states. and again, putin, when he talks about such things, he is not bluffing, he rarely exaggerates when he says that they could turn into a serious problem. he really is usually means something, that’s how you understood putin’s words and how seriously do you take these ever-increasing american supplies? you know, the president said very precisely, so i would say it closely in his words , now say it in your own, now i will say it in my own words, for this, that is, i will not repeat what he said, exactly, i will just complement and clarify . the situation, so to speak, is more with numbers in hand. atakoms is a ballistic missile with a firing range, i don’t think they installed a new version there, about 160 km, but if you rub a more

modern version, 300 km. the missile follows a ballistic trajectory, from the moment of launch it is detected and crushed by the missile defense system. that is, yes, we will have to strengthen the pro, but this is not fatal. eh, let's say, missiles like tarus, storm shadow, scalp, they are much more dangerous, because they fly at low, extremely low altitudes, they are difficult to detect, and secondly, this means that the supply of a small number of missiles really does not represent anything special , this is not a nuclear warhead, an exact defeat, this is the first time, secondly, which means that one more important point should be noted is that there were several such missiles on the territory of ukraine. 120 km, well here 160, maybe 300, that is, a more modern modification , that is, this is also not important, we calmly

crushed them, neutralized them and destroyed them, so yes, this is an unpleasant moment, but the most important thing here, that is, this is a solvable issue, it is unpleasant, it is unpleasant because we will have to add additional forces for reconnaissance, strengthen the anti-missile defense in dangerous directions. we will have to transfer command and control points, warehouses, airfields, we won’t have to transfer anywhere, we will just have to strengthen the missile defense system , we will have to install additional nodes, additional air defense units will have to be deployed in adjacent defense areas, that is, this is really from the category of a nuisance, but a small threat, so you think, yes, these are not fatal threats, that is, all the more so, they will absolutely not affect... combat operations, so the most important thing here is political moment, the president said very precisely , the point is that the united states of america is being drawn even more into this conflict, in this context we must

look, generally on a geopolitical scale,