[000:00:00;00] uh, so as not to spoil the channels, i don’t remember where , in 1974, luzhniki, a poetry evening, a huge one, in my opinion, was the only one where they all lived, at that time, simonov hosted it all, and it’s incredible, well well, we are returning to the flab podcast, my name is dmitry bak, and i am the host of a literary podcast called let... they say, let them read, our guest today, my interlocutor, honored artest of russia, rector of the mkhat studio school, igor yakovlevich, zolotovsky . now comes the middle of our conversation, and here is the usual presenter, that is me, i do one of three, i either show some book from my library, and either read a poem and comment, or read a quote from the classics, but today there will be

a combination of... these two genres, and i will risk showing you a book that is not in its original binding, with some kind of inscriptions , then made, but, but this is important, this is a collection of anna andreevna akhmatova’s rosary, which was published for the first time by the hyperborey publishing house in st. petersburg in 1914, and came out 11 times, three times counterfeit, three times in addition to will, and this is the very height of her popularity, this is the rise of akhmatova, a couple of years have passed since nikolai gumilyov said: “anya, you are a poet, you need to make a book, it all began, and my god, 11 editions of a small book, i it is very important that everyone understands that this is a very small book, in my hands, a book

from the sixteenth year, this is 1916, this is..." third edition, the same hyperborean, publishing house, st. petersburg, and this is its very wear and tear and the fact that it is dressed in such a later binding with some naive inscriptions is evidence of popularity, because akhmatova started talking about such details of life that were not in poetry , well, it was impossible to say there on my knees in the garden to the swan field, or i’m having fun with you drunk, or something like that, well... you can’t imagine it such a degree of elaboration of details, well, i’ll read one short poem, after the wind and frost it was nice for me to warm up by the fire, there i didn’t take care of my heart, but it was stolen from me, the new year’s holiday lasts magnificently, the wet stems of new year’s roses are in my chest no longer heard trembling, they stole my heart, ah, it’s not difficult

for me to guess the thief, i recognize him. it’s only so scary that soon, soon, he will return his prey himself and this, well, with such a slight touch of salonity, detachment, even irony, mannerisms, but how much is here, such a genuine feeling, how much is here from a diary, a woman in love, as in fact and often to this book and the previous book , which was called evening, the next book , which was called the white flock, anno domini, by the way, anno domini, this is an amazing name of the book, anno domini is, well, summer god's summer, this is my summer - says anna akhmatova, and this is such a subtle play of meanings, this is of course the lord's summer, but this is the summer of god's servant, this is the most famous, this one, yes

, the name. this book, well, perhaps we continue our conversation, and now, now about some of the latest theatrical works, yours, please tell us, important ones, maybe in connection with literature, maybe those that are just being done, if now you can ask, for me the event, the last performance, zhenya grishkovets, because that these are texts, these are wife’s texts. and this performance is a conference and you were at this performance, and i’m sorry that i’m sorry that you were at the first performances, because i myself don’t like going to premieres, and i know how premiere performances are so exciting and don’t let go the performance as a house should absolutely, yes, yes, yes, yes, should fall into place , but this gives us such joy, and we did not expect it, this is of course, this is the intuition, the property, the talent of the wife,

who feels... the need like this here is communication with people about literature, we are talking about a book, you know, this is a great book, which, the wording , everyone knows it, but with their own eyes, not everyone has read it, completely mysteriously, speechpuhe, vinepuke, yes, but venepuke everything , and i have a wonderful text there, and we will subject this this, this text to analysis, if, of course, a miracle fairy tale can be analyzed, this is a wonderful story, it all comes up in a completely new way, because, a wonderful translation, a cartoon, for khader, yes, who comes to visit in the morning, all this is wonderful, but in the original everything is a little different, we have the beautiful

gambrel on stage, yes they gave us, yes, our student , who is english, so in hers, and of course, and for me it’s well, first of all, i am pleased with you, in your project today i’m talking about literature, and this is a performance that is already running, but i just entered it, this is a performance, a duel, oh, how interesting, let’s talk properly, and this is anton pavlovichov, me again i’m amazed by his flair for words, by the way, i don’t know how to formulate, you can formulate it better than me, because i feel in the audience , well, well, people, of course, uh, to a lesser extent, especially today with gadgets, read to a lesser extent, few people read any kind of drama, they know how to read drama, by the way, this is a very important story, yes, because the germans even have the term lazy drama, that is, drama for reading for learning, of course, very rarely, very

rarely, you always surprise, a duel is not a drama, drul is just prose not a play , this is prose, and of course, and this is felt in the hall, like people perceive these words, wonderful thoughts about family, about love, it seems, it seems that this is all already, these words are not new and all this has already been done, how many times have we heard about it, he somehow turns it around, well in general, this is a completely special thing, because many, forgive me for jumping in and interrupting again, many believed that this was, well, close to a novel, chekhov did not write a single novel, and this is a famous story or a great story, this is a story, well, a story , film, there was a bad man, a good man with vysotsky, papanov vysotsky dal, oleg dal, yes, yes, yes, but how

it is heard today, as it is heard today, this is an absolutely modern story, but what does this story say to a person, it seems to be about hopelessness, it is melancholy, there is the very same titular phrase, almost a meme, no one... knows the real truth, there, let us remind you that we are talking about the fact that a certain young man, loevsky, lives with a certain young lady , whom he took away from her husband, nadezhda fedorovna, further he lives in the south, and there are people who, and of course, and as in the beautiful, every great drama has an antagonist who deals with science, which is quite a biologist, he's yeah, yeah, which. what is this themselves and each of them what is the genius of genius yes everyone really doesn’t have a negative hero you when when von korn says his point of view about what he does what he does like an evil

infusor yes yes he must be destroyed like an evil infusor the slacker vanya loevsky is mine and my hero samoilenko, the doctor, says if you drown people and hang them, then to hell with your civilization, to hell with humanity, yes, yes, as voznesensky said, all progress reactionary, if a person collapses, that’s the whole point, yes, but how he formulates, again , well, understand, through his hero, i’m just now learning the text, because it’s very, difficult, complex text is difficult to enter into a good performance , which has been going on for a long time, but what makes it all the more surprising is the encounter with this text, when loevsky says that again the shark, again the irons, this is it, and i, and mine says, vanya, but it’s impossible to live without an iron, this is what samenko says, such a kind laugher, wonderful, sympathetic, understanding,

it’s impossible, he says, he even feels for vonkoren, no, well, vonkoren, he argues like that, yes, yes, of course, he stands between them, he stands in the middle, he goes to one to console, to the other to take money, for this, one says, one thing for him, the other says another , he says, well, wait, guys , all these syllogisms don’t work here, that the enemy of my enemy, my friend is there and so on, nothing like that, samolenko is the same one. love cannot last long, nothing can be built on it, on love and passion, that ’s the whole point, so you lived for 2 years in love, and now, as you can see, a period has come in family life that you need, in order to maintain balance, to use all your patience, and this generally

applies to humanity, there is so little patience now, but if you move on to modern literature, of your choice, something, for example, i know that we can talk about the library, this is today, than cinema and theater, i will tell our interlocutors, it is more primary, i thought you would, it very rarely happens when cinema... literature ascends , and then if this is if

the sequence was such that you watched a talented movie first, and then read the book, i also had, you know, this one, now let’s switch off a little, let’s go back to the librarian, with one flew over the cuckoo case, i first watched nicholson, and then read the book, i of course, these guys stood before my eyes, everything and so on, well , andrei dorkovsky’s childhood, his debut is officially his debut film, yes. thesis, but he reveals ivanalo’s story, but in a new way, and the librarian, of course, it was incredible, well, i had some degree event, after reading this, it’s such a utopia on, i would say, on the same shelf , well, if not on the same shelf, then next to oruel, he’s kind of scary there, he’s kind of scary, i ’m playing such a scoundrel, i’m playing

such a scoundrel, lagutin i'm playing. but the main thing is that i met him with misha, yeah, elizam, he was on the last, but one of the last filmings we had in the crowd there, of course, he, what is this, well, of course, of course, yes, yes, yes, that i liked that here, when i read it, i never acted or acted, that here it comes from feeling, and not from regi, it is clear that all this turns into, to some extent, religious fanaticism, and there is no gap between, between feelings and fanaticism, this is a very important, important story, it is very important to catch this line, to catch the line when this is all, turns to the opposite side, and these people who were editors, the heroes who were editors, who suddenly they were so influenced by lines, some words were so influenced by them that i’ll turn it around... well, i’m sure that those

who can hear us, i won’t reach this brink, y you will have good things, there will be good impressions, they will, of course , read this book and other books without risk, without any negativity, because there is the most paradoxical story, i always repeat it, that a book, art - this is the last thing that is not subject to al, but can i tell you about one more book, and you tell me what genre this book is, well, we just need to finish it, i’ll tell you quickly, and you know about these books, we have now published, we have found two boxes in the archives of the mkhat museum, found two boxes with letters from vamkhat from 1898 to 1928, dear friends, this is a wonderful history of the country through letters from moscow viewers.

theater, this is literature, tell me, this is literature, of course, it hasn’t come out yet, i haven’t seen it, it’s come out , i haven’t seen it, my god, what, what a herd, we had a presentation of all these books in color, they are two books, ninety-eighth, thirteenth year and 13th, ninetieth, all these books in color, with colored covers, are on my shelf, i adore them, i am sure that these books are also wonderful, just as our conversation today was wonderful, which really is. .. outlined a lot of common territories for theater, for literature, and most importantly, for modern people , who still cannot live without this and will not be able to, such a project and this is a more than necessary thing, thank you very much, i sincerely thank igor yakovlevichaltovsky, honored artist of russia , rector of the school of mx studios for our conversation. thank you, dear igor, see you, all the best, goodbye , and to you, our dear invisible interlocutors,

i always speak with an edifying intonation, in fact, very friendly and democratically, read with pleasure, dear friends, pita drita, fita fraum, i will teach you the first lesson, you need to look up at me, and then press the tarmak. i bet for now i’m not a playboy, but just a mista, a small mista, i’ll answer for the market with my head, when i speak, i’m watching the broom, look at my manicure, if

you’re with me, you’re not a manicure, the north pole, the glazed beach, where if you were and were not, catch courage , catch... courage, courage, catch, catch courage, catch courage, catch, catch courage , catch courage, courage, lobi, lobi, courage, get along courage, if you are with me, what need to do, to get into the spirit, in the summer, music, wine , the beach, and on the ground, camouflage saves, because all you need is makeup, i don’t cheat on anyone. kursha and wild garlic, i don’t carry it with me, you know, this is not a fight, wushu, don’t slow down , come on kurashun, look at my manicure , if you’re with me, you’re not an alarmist, north

pole, glazed beach, where would you be , there was no courage, catch courage, courage, catch, catch courage, catch wherever you are, wherever you are? if you are with me, wherever you are

, be courageous, if you are with me, be courageous, courage, catch, catch, courage, catch courage, catch, catch, courage, courage, courage, labi, labi, courage, labi, courage, if you are with me, labi , courage, courage, catch, catch courage, catch courage, catch, catch courage, catch courage, courage, catch, catch courage, blabi courage, if you are with me, this is a podcast 20 years later and i and its host konstantin mikhailov, our guest is mr. maloy, aka andrey tsyganov, andrey, hello, salam to everyone, you are the first rapper, i practically agree with this status, and

of course i agree, but if other people who did not agree, for example, such as the bachelor party, bogdan titamir, bat-belance. vlat valov, yes, vlat valov, director of russian hip-hop, by the way, i will agree with the bachelor party , if anything happens, they, i will also agree, yes, yes, in fact, in fact, it was a lot of fun tours, where so we went together, the bachelor party, and i, there are a lot of all sorts of stories, but unfortunately, none of them can probably be told, on the first channel, not one at all, not a single one at all, listen, well, vlad is the chief valov, how did he perceive you, what kind of relationship did you have? well in general for this whole rap party, i’m a former shkket, such a younger brother, the son of a regiment, a hip -hop regiment, they customized some things for me there, some jeans, sneakers, because

then, unfortunately, there was none of this and just go to the store and buy some old-school adidas, unfortunately it was impossible, you could only live , you could, yes, from the farce makers, irons, well, you were too small for an iron, but no, i anyway, i already talked to them at that time, they also adjusted it to me. that's why that at that time i was, it seems to me, pretty well packaged. remember how you started making music, where did it all begin? it all started very simply, i was in my childhood, well, at the age of four, there, 5 years old, yes, ah, we, when we walked there on the playgrounds, uh, i of course liked to climb everywhere there, there, all this, yes , but the main story was to get on stage and i don’t know, read poetry, sing like... some songs in english, that is, somehow

express yourself and get applause, so this was somehow ingrained into my consciousness right from childhood, uh, and then i went to learn to dance, uh, well, before that, i knew all tsoi’s songs by heart and i’m still there somewhere at a concert or if he ’s playing somewhere - cinema group , all the lyrics immediately pop up from my subconscious by heart, this is unexpected, what is the connection with rap, nothing at all, how did hip-hop cover you, at what moment? now hip-hop has hit, which means my dad, he was a submariner, and he periodically brought some cassettes with disco, and we had some kind of modern talking record at home, that is, this is what synth sounds like. it was already somehow integrated into my life a little bit, my father brought everything from sailing, yes yes they did, they brought

some cassettes and it was kind of fashionable and i naturally listened to it, that is, you were such a major yes a little bit well no no after all i wasn’t a major because that’s what it’s like that’s all i had if it weren’t for my father you swam or rather i’m sorry went abroad and brought you something well that’s the thing he brought there was chewing gum and muzlo, yes, and it was of course valuable, well, i brought a camera there, a paloroid, well, that was cool too, yes, what, you can take pictures right away , pictures come out, so, but in principle that’s all, that is he didn’t bring me any jeans, after all, he didn’t bring me any sneakers either, well, it seems he probably had some other values ​​and god bless him, so after listening to all this, i saw somewhere there that enrollment was starting for a school there, and then this it was called a rap dance, yes, it

was essentially a break, yes, it was a break, it was there all sorts of tops, there are all sorts of poppinggies, lockinggies and so on, yeah, that’s it, but in any case , my brother and i went there to learn to dance, and there i somehow joined this hip-hop crowd, started hanging out in all sorts of places, where the breakdance dancers gathered, i learned how once i received some recordings, for example, there is a thermonuclear group there. the bat balance group, the bachelor party group, the oak guy group , that is, it was all on cassette tapes, i listened , studied on them, one might say, readings, oak guy, this is arthur ignatov, as far as i remember, well yes, there was a dolphin there too at one time, yes, i learned to read from them, and somehow i joined this party, that is, it was important for me to come everywhere, get on stage everywhere, dance, film everywhere chips, from older dancers, and somehow i gradually joined in, after that, it means we met the group thermonuclear jam,

at that time i was their fan and, again, i also knew all their lyrics by heart, and we decided , and there was also a screw, there was also a rets , although there was also tengis, so we decided to do it with them such... a semblance of russian cris-cross, well, it all started with khatab and tengiz , there were two main ones, yes, they were a group called thermonoyed jam, but at the time when we met them, there was also mc and a screw. screw, by the way, is also a very legendary person, he made a lot of music for detsel, for example, he was a member of the detsu group, which later turned into the ulybaity brothers, yes. that is , he did so many things for russian hip-hop, so you moved from tsoi to hip-hop,

but can you imagine or portray tsoi in rap, give me some beats. i don’t know how to jam, i have the maximum, no, yes, no , it seems to me, and there’s no need to somehow turn this into rap, he has his own path, it would be stupid not to ask, stupid questions about women’s breasts, sunflower oil, we choose the right one on the market, without friends i’m a little bit, the day of searching is new... friends , the program to live well will tell you about everything tomorrow on the first. put down the furnishings. the crew went to contact. the flight went as normal. we are in kaluga, friends, and this is where our space journey begins. a lot today we use what solkovsky proposed. how ahead of his

time was he? come on, get along. yes, with a slight movement, yes. i’ll take us to a fairy tale, this is a twist, here are fairy tales, here is fantasy, here is a flying saucer and dragons , this is a bathhouse, as i understand it, you probably run out in the winter and just love it, well, practically yes, yuri alekseevich gagarin, when he was a little boy , he loved to play them, my husband’s version, i walk in heels like that, let’s go, the premiere is on saturday. on the first one, do you remember your first fee, what did you spend it on? i remember the first money i earned was not there, i don’t know, not selling newspapers, not doing anything there, yes, that’s when i earned money from music, my skill, we

started from the dance, that is, from lessons of these dances, we had a small get-together, i don’t know, there were 10-15 people there, at the crossing in the gostiny dvor on nevsky prospekt, and i ran out in front of the boys and started reading something to them, probably thermonuclear jam, they stopped and let's download, suddenly, it was, well, it was kind of early evening, well it was quite crowded, and people began to stop, one of... our dudes came up and said: “little guy, don’t stop, come on,” and in short, i continued to do this, some mountaineers came up, took out three rubles, and began to it’s so easy to throw, in short, three rubles in packs, yes, my boys rushed in like chick-chick-chick-chick-chick, they collected everything right away, yes, some guy with a bungee came up, started playing something, tapping, in

general , we don’t know, minutes, it seems to me, well, they normally collected such a small pile of money, this was the very first money, which i realized that you can make money from this, then it was from the performance, i think it was either at petropalovka, we probably received 150 or 100 dollars there, and we spent it somehow, and i understood. like wow, wow, this, this is what i came out and read , and i only had four tracks, yes, so i came out, read, they kind of gave us money, and i already received some money just for reading, just for project mr. small, cool, i remember, too, on the street he started dancing right away, a crowd formed around him and they also started giving me money put it down if i suddenly thought of putting my cap on some kind of intercom, but very

quickly for some reason the police immediately formed and swept me away. practically always, you weren’t swept away, not at all, not once, not, well, we actually did this, that is, it was impromptu, that is, we didn’t do it consciously, it’s just me too, i just went on a wave, so i walked around with a man, you know, i left him, sometimes i started dancing just for myself, people gathered, and if there was some kind of container nearby, it was completely by accident, yes, it was peter, i i remember victory park, arbat was, well, it’s normal on arbat, yes, you don’t stop going , i still pass on arbat on april 1st, of course, it’s always a must, respect, so, and that’s it, that was it, then there is expro, and for me, it wasn’t that it was important that now i was dancing and reading there and earning some money, yes, that they were throwing money at me, but it was just important for me to do it, and that people reacted to it , yes, here are my boys already, they started fussing, they are all chick-chick, businessmen,

everything, so we did everything very quickly gone, that is, you are so lacquered may, your boys, who produced you seriously, where did it start, by the way, this is a very very interesting question, because lately there has been such a thing about... orlov, he says in many places that it’s like , i am the person who generally raised a little, thanks to me he became some kind of star there, in fact, it was that evgeny orlov, unfortunately, we really wanted to work with him, because it seemed to us that he was real a live producer, yes from st. petersburg, he says, well like i can’t deal with you separately, but as a teenager. like, we can take another band as a complement, and it seems like we were promised some mountains, some videos, some albums, in the end, yes, indeed,

we recorded the first four tracks at the forum studio, but nothing would go further, that is, the album i will die young, which we already had ready and which we were ready to record, unfortunately, we could not record with this producer, the video i will die young, which was filmed at the time when we... the group neon boy song yes , which is a sea of ​​generations, in my opinion, as far as i remember, for this song, evgeny arlov paid 150 dollars, and this is the money that we spent on the video, i will die young, well, like , if this is the producer’s job like this, well, then it occurs to me. a lot of questions, they didn’t do anything else, for example, there is another one for 150 dollars, yes, but this clip also flew into the central channels, so this is generally a cool achievement, this

concerns the fact that evgeny orlov was the producer of mr. malov, igor silverstov, just the one we met in 1993, when we arrived in moscow and worked there at the jump club, respect to him, because he... was able, through his actions, his connections, his work, to bring this project to - a pretty cool level, but initially there was hodiz and you, who asked to join them, well, this is not what they asked for, this is what we discussed, yes, we came up with such a joint idea, and there ’s not only that, and there’s not only that it was hoting, yes, that is, there were two more key people, there’s just a legend that you said? guys, you’re cool, you just literally approached them on the beach and said : guys, you’re cool, just take me as a backup dancer, they’re like, damn, there’s

a group, here’s a cross, chris cross, yes, which, in general, is the deal such that i really came up, and it really was on the beach, because we were there, well, we were all sunbathing there together on the same heel in sosnovsky park sosnovka, so i really was their fan, because once again i knew everything i had so much energy to memorize their lyrics that that i just wanted my manifestation, it doesn’t matter what it is to dance in the termom group, let’s say i’m ready, like, perform somewhere else and read somewhere, come on, i ’m scared, i’ve never done this, but i’m ready to do this, so there was so much energy, and just when evgeny orlov appeared , this energy was also there, but it was as if there was nowhere... to realize it, now with igor, seleverstvo we, this is exactly what we organized , the professional level was already there, yes, yes, yes, yes, this energy, in general, i have, i have

at that moment there was such a concept that it was like, guys, even for me, well, money in general is not an important story, just let me read , give me a stage, give me a camera, i’m ready, yeah, that’s it, and when the big money came to you, there is a big fee, what are you using it for? spent, do you remember, something significant and bought something? uh, for some reason it seems to me that this didn’t happen, that is, any money that came to me, firstly, it didn’t seem to matter to me that i was missing it a little, yeah, well, i didn’t have that i bought a car there or bought an apartment or something else, all the money that came in was spent, as it were, here now, on parties, on parties, yes, mr. malov’s party, in general, which does not end with a nickname. yes, which goes on around the clock, 7 days a week, and it doesn’t matter where it is, in st. petersburg, in moscow, in some other city, it was enough, no matter how old you were,

it was enough for your health, because i probably did so much as a child sports, any kind, anything at all, that’s just all that is possible, football, hockey, winter, well, in short, i remember fencing, swimming, in short, well, everything, everything, i was an omnivore. and i liked everything and i was all excited and went along with the money to parties, it was some kind of professional sport, probably, yes, but, well, well, in fact , there was never really a professional sport, yes, it was like that. ofp, always on the move and this is always on the move, it’s left now, and you wanted to travel with this money , see the world there, or didn’t have enough time, yes, i wanted, i wanted very much, but i actually also have a story about, like i always like to travel there and see other countries and so on, for example, in ninety-seven or ninety-six, in ninety-six, probably, and we should have had a tour of germany, we

should have had about 10 or 12 concerts in different cities, we were traveling carmen, i’m a bachelor party, i already have a passport, i’m 16 years old, i’m a star on a russian scale, everything’s going on , i come, so i have to go through control, and they tell me, at this, at passport control, they say, where’s yours? permission from my parents, i’ve been living in... moscow for a couple of years now, yeah, i rarely call my parents, but where are they, i already earn much more money than my parents, parents in st. petersburg, parents in st. petersburg, yes, and that means they tell me this, and i start saying, why, i have a passport, i’m even there like, here’s a box of cassettes, in short, i’m taking with me a box of my cassettes, i say, let me give you half a box of cassettes, please let me in. they tell me, no, it’s unrealistic, we

’re bothering ourselves, i’m calling dad, dad, since he’s a military submariner there, he’s through kronshtat, through his own commanders-in-chief there, he he sends it by fax in an hour, and this is permission to poison, but while this hour was passing, the plane with the whole party flew away, apparently, okay, okay, there are all sorts of military seals there, like dad doesn’t mind, mom i don’t mind, everything is clear, the next day, in theory, i was supposed to fly away and catch up with my people , so guys, we come and they tell me that, like , now we are letting all passengers through, yes, that’s it, permission, there is, everything, there is, papers, there is, a ticket, there is, that's it, clearly, now they say we're letting all the passengers through,

then, and after that, like... we'll put you in jail, but there are also four people here who are also from previous flights , i’m already so nervous, uh, that means i’m standing at this counter, they let everyone through, and i’m like, well, when i’m gone, they tell me, sorry , there are no seats, they took two other passengers, i say, you’re on tour, all business, and in short they say, sorry, you won’t fly today, most likely, this ticket of yours is also somehow canceled already and the picture just looks like this , i’m 15 or 16 years old there, i’m walking through the airport and just swearing so loudly swearing at this entire airport, i don’t know how they didn’t bar me there, nothing, but i was just there with all the words that i knew, uh, i told them, and in short i didn’t fly anywhere, that’s why i love going abroad, but - i don’t always get there,

you see, i get there, haven’t you met me? for this border guard or border guard who didn’t let you through then on tour, remember me, remember , let’s turn to him now, but come on, here’s the border guard, the border guard, you know what’s funny about what else, after that, that’s how he didn’t let me out, an hour later, when the paper arrived, they changed shift, yeah, the next shift supervisor said, and i would have let him out , just think how is it possible for a human border guard who didn’t let me out ? so live in peace, but know that i didn’t earn quite a large amount of money because of you, and i didn’t see...’ my first love, who lives

in germany with my school because of you, and in general how somehow there was an unclosed gestalt, so - by the way, it is necessary just do a tour in germany, drive through cities, everything will be fine, and i will forgive you immediately after that , but for now you have this stain on your karma, yes, do you remember the moment when they began to recognize you, i... remember the moment, you know, when i just felt like this is glory, this is what i remember, this is the moment, this - i was walking home from school, well, like, i already. damn, it seems to me that this is 13, yes, well, like, it’s at the very beginning, i’m walking home from school, nothing interesting happens at school, it’s just there, like, i went there, because like

i have to go there, why go there, it’s unclear what they can teach me there, it’s unclear, all these teachers who tell me, all these texts, i don’t want to be like them, yes, because unfortunately, i had an ordinary average school, and there, well, maybe there was one teacher there who was kind of interesting and authoritative, the rest was just sitting there, and i go home and from several windows of houses along the road they are playing my tracks and here i am about to come. .. such a realization that it’s like, wow, this is already cool, there were moments in life when you immediately understood that now i would die young , well, of course, there were such moments, there were quite a lot, for example, in st. petersburg there is such

a tunnel club, there was, there was such a tunnel club, this is the first club, who was the founder of the development of electronic music in russia, that is, this club culture generally came from there, which means i went there periodically, almost every day, and that means one day i felt something, i had someone i knew, and i see this friend is standing and communicates with some kind of strong, skin-headed, so young man, and i ’m a small age... there, 13-14 years old, i go up to this muzzle and say: this is bixa with me, i don’t even understand

, in short, what, well, what did they say, and it kind of turned his mind upside down, he was like, what, and this dude, in short, took me by the throat, lifted me up like that, and then i realized that damn, how - everything is not going according to the script, not according to the scenario that i came up with for myself, so perhaps, in general, they suit each other much better than she and i, yes, well, in general, then i had some kind of rethinking and general filtering, yeah, for example, there was one of these examples, then, well, there were quite a few.

first, you were in rehabilitation and rehabbed in earnest, and then it turned out that living in a sober sober house is much more interesting, and then there are all sorts of... you know, very subtle states, when there, well, people who meditate there, there people who do yoga, people who simply engage in some kind of spiritual work, and with themselves, they reach some other levels, which are much more interesting, and you became a yoga practitioner, meditate, i did yoga, not only did i do yoga, i am a certified yoga teacher, first, secondly , my friend and i, in st. petersburg, opened a social movement called generation yoga, and which was absolutely not about money, but about the fact that