tv Bolshaya igra 1TV October 19, 2023 11:00pm-12:01am MSK
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major, do you not understand who you are messing with? who did i contact? are you threatening me or what? you fucking faggot, you killed my comrade, maybe there’s nowhere to put the pipes. who did you let in through the fire exit on the day of mila nikonova’s death, this is a terrible person, he is from the kgb, how do you know that he is from the kgb? lord, please understand, i just want to leave, i just want to live normally, work normally, i won’t have a life in this country , understand, please help me. i'll tell you
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i’ve already galloped up, i don’t even want to listen, stepan ilyevich, no, no, now what is the fawn doing, so you continue to walk further. a special analytical edition of the big game is on air. now with us on skype from beijing kiril vladimirovich babaev, director of the institute of china and modern asia, russian academy of sciences, and he took part in that forum where the host country was citizen pin, and where the main guest was
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china, you go there often, you have been to more than one international and more specifically at the russian-chinese forum, from your point of view, what happened yesterday in beijing that you would consider most important? well, from my point of view, really. perhaps a breakthrough event not only for china, but for the whole world, my eyes were riveted on it, i it seems that the entire world press, the world community, china today is leading, it seems to me, the largest economic initiative in modern international relations, an initiative that is supported not only by the number of countries participating in it, china declares that more than 150 countries are already taking part in the belt and road initiative, but also in the amount of funds
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allocated for this project, xidin ping announced yesterday that another 50 billion dollars will be allocated by china, chinese banks for support for projects and initiatives, and itself is becoming more and more global , which began as a trans-eurasian path , now it already covers the countries of africa and latin america, and thus challenges the entire, it seems to me, financial, trade, logistics infrastructure, which is still has since been controlled primarily by the united states. this is perhaps the main thesis that china is conveying today through this forum, which was attended by several dozen heads of state, former heads of state government, there even... no one counted. but as for the economy, trade relations, some especially agreements regarding russian gas, which can be sent to china, instead of how it used to go to europe, as i understand it, something
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interesting happened there too, well i found it interesting that this time both vladimir putin and sidinpina separately spoke about the power of siberia 2 as a promising project that both countries need, thereby we see confirmation of what is likely to happen in the near future time, the deal will be signed, perhaps during the next visit of the russian prime minister to china, which is expected before the end of the year, and it also seems to me that it is very important, and this is no longer an energy or agricultural topic, a mega-deal for 25 billion dollars has been signed for the supply of russian grain to china, this is truly a huge deal , larger than... chinese history, it covers 12 years and of course, it is significantly beneficial to russia with its rich reserves of zarn, and of course it is beneficial to china, which is striving to ensure its food security, well, now china will largely depend on russia for these
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supplies, as i understand it, correct me if something is wrong, as i understand it, there was a conscious line on the forum. not to create the impression of a divided world, allegiance to certain blocs, the idea of creating new blocs, in general, they talked about what is good not only for the participants, but for all of humanity, and it was a clear line that, it seems to me, influenced to the tone of conversations and discussions, but at the same time what was happening, but i i don’t know how to say this, god knows what’s in the middle east. at the same time, there was pressure from the united states on russia and china. this is how it felt at the forum, were there any reactions that you could share with us? well, how can i say,
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really, vladimir putin very correctly said that what is attractive about the chinese belt and road initiative? the fact is that china does not impose anything on anyone. china does not expose any political or. ideological demands, attracting everything more and more countries to participate in it, this is a purely voluntary, purely economic , at least at first glance, initiative, which thereby emphasizes its absolutely non-political nature, and it seems to me that this is its strong point, because this is exactly what today the united states cannot provide, the west cannot provide , which is probably why the west has such a negative attitude and so actively criticizes itself...' one way or the other, the meeting between vladimir putin and sidinpin, which lasted more than 3 hours, so to speak, is also a fairly clear signal , you know, the chinese said before the visit that the chairman of the people's republic of china had only 35 minutes planned for the meeting with our president, but you see, the meeting
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lasted about 3 hours, thus, this is already an important indicator that the leaders, of course, discussed a variety of issues, not only bilateral, but also global issues. therefore, this is truly a global event, this is a certain trend that , it seems to me, determines not only the economic development of eurasia in the future, but also a certain stage in the confrontation between the west and the non-west, and this same world majority, which today is increasingly drawn to russian-chinese projects. when you talked to forum participants , officials and not only officials. have you seen any signs that the american constant appeals to beijing , that they say it is necessary to put pressure on russia so that it takes a more flexible position on china, so that russia unconditionally leaves those territories that
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ukraine considered its own, have you seen any that signs that china is ready to at least somehow meet the united states halfway, you know, no , on the contrary, to be honest, it seems to me that china has made its choice, this choice is precisely what is visible at the forum, because it is really very many western countries were simply not invited to it, but vladimir putin became the main guest and certainly the main figure after the chairman of the people's republic of china at the last forum, we saw this very well from the newsreels, this is the very civilizational choice that what beijing is doing today, western countries are ignored, their interests are not taken into account in any way, at the same time, the russian president is received with great honor, everyone is shown
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, the whole world is shown that he is the main star of the whole event, despite this, i’ll be honest, there i saw quite a lot of representatives, including from the western world, i talked, for example, at a forum with the former prime minister of japan with the former head of government of the czech republic with experts from the uk, from other european countries, everything they said one thing: that today... the west itself has led the west into a dead end precisely because with its uncompromising position in terms of relations with russia, from the point of view of american-chinese relations , washington is actually preventing the creation and preservation of, so to speak, its global leadership. i am sure that you spoke not only about international relations, trade, but you are a very important expert on china, i
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would be very interested to hear your observations about where china is today, you know better than me that there has been a change of foreign ministers, you know that the chinese defense minister has stopped appearing, that in this regard, especially in the western press, there is a lot of speculation, they say that china’s pace has slowed down. economic development, no this, no that, this is your impression, where is china from your point of view, politically, economically ? well, let's start with the fact that the real main problems of china today are economic problems, not at all rotation in the government. china is very a stable political system will certainly survive the change of two ministers, in this sense, today china... is worried, of course, about economic problems, including demography, a sharp aging of the population and the cessation of its growth,
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a slowdown in economic growth, a real estate crisis, and so on . in this sense, it seems to me that sidinping made several important statements that could help the chinese economy. firstly, in fact, the initiative itself, one train, one track, is precisely intended to expand the zone of chinese economic influence. world, secondly, the injections that china is making today into projects and initiatives, of course, they will also help the chinese economy itself , to revive, well, thirdly, sidingpin said , for example, that restrictions on any kind of foreign investment in the chinese economy are being lifted the economy, this, of course, will spur these investments, perhaps not only from the west, but from countries in the developing world, all this is intended to somehow provide china. at 5%, which is considered planned there today, and it seems to me that somewhere
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around these figures it will balance, i i think that china’s political problems today are associated, of course, primarily with the confrontation with the united states, and this is primarily the taiwanese situation; presidential elections in taiwan are scheduled for january 2024, as far as these are concerned. will be successful for china, time will tell, for now, in any case, it is clear that this is such a cut-off point , in many ways for the chinese leadership, it seemed to me that there was a moment when clouds, as they say, were gathering around taiwan, and that - at least on the surface it seemed that it was even possible military conflict, in my opinion all this has somehow calmed down a little and has been brought under control, and that there is no immediate danger of a military clash now, your
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impression, i absolutely agree with you, i believe that not now, not in any short-term there is no need to talk about a military conflict in the future, china itself is not interested in this, the chinese always say in private conversations, in official conversations, that china is not used to solving its problems through war, it solves them through savings. solves it quite successfully, until today, it is intensively developing its economy and absolutely, in a very short time, will become the number one power in the world economy, even... with everything, with all, so to speak, restraints on the part of the united states, so of course, china plans to resolve it peacefully the taiwan problem, to what extent this will be possible due to the opposition of the united states, is of course a different question, but nevertheless, i think that they will be intensively looking for some kind of compromise over the coming years, they will try to somehow influence economically
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on - on the island with a carrot stick and perhaps they will be able to turn the situation around on the island, they will come... with the help of a mechanism there, several decades of existence of two systems, but nevertheless will allow the island to gradually integrate into china. and regarding the korean people's democratic republic, which was visited by the russian foreign minister, sergei lavrov. i don't know if any important new agreements were concluded there. russia manages to build new relations with iran, with north korea, which also is subject to intense pressure from the united states, but with which russia, let’s say,
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had a partnership, but distant relationship. is your opinion starting to change? is changing very dynamically, you are absolutely right, because of course, our economic relations with north korea, this is our neighbor , geographical, they were restrained purely artificially, due to the fact that russia , as a result of a deal back in the 2000s , imposed sanctions on north korea, but this was part of some kind of package agreement with the west, which, of course, in the twenty-second year... ceased to operate, thus russia had a free hand to interact, fully interact with north korea, so i am convinced that by the end of this year our trade turnover will increase significantly, it is now absolutely obvious that there will be other projects , including in the military-technical sphere, in which it is very beneficial for us and the dprk
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to cooperate, i think that these relations will continue to develop, this visit, which takes place literally a month after the state visit north korean leader to russia, and this visit is also very symbolic, because it allows us to expand the agreements that were concluded in primorye. i believe that in the very near future we should expect additional news about economic cooperation between russia and the dprk, although it is true that many of them will most likely remain behind the scenes of the world media. and the last question, again about china, i can’t help but ask you, what worries a certain part of our audience is whether it’s dangerous for russia to get closer to such a growing, increasingly powerful and ambitious china, even suspects that china has some ideas about
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capturing part of siberia in the far east. russia in the fight against the united states, and then what is called sailing and abandoning. do you see any grounds for this kind of fear, and how to deal with these fears? you know, i always answer this question, and i get asked it quite often, i always suggest rewinding russian-chinese relations a little back 70 years and see if there were conversations in 1950 china about whether it is dangerous for them. soviet union. then the soviet union helped china so much to transform into a modern , fast-growing economy, built tens of hundreds of industrial facilities in the country, practically created the entire military industry, the entire civilian industry in this country. well, russia, well, the soviet union helped china a lot, and
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this did not lead to any dependence, as we know, after 10-15 years there, china carried out a completely sovereign, very even. soviet policy, in this sense it seems to me that we are here there is nothing to fear, yes, now we, in turn, have something to gain from china, these are technologies, these are industrial, the production of industrial equipment, but our economies complement each other very well. china cannot exist without inexpensive energy sources, which it receives from russia, china today will not be able to ensure food security without our grain supply of agricultural products, we, in turn, buy... equipment, machines, spare parts, in this sense, our economies coincide very well like two piece of the puzzle, i don’t think it’s appropriate here to talk about some kind of, let’s say, influence... one-sided, it’s dependence, it’s mutual, it’s two-sided, it benefits both countries, vladimirovich, thank you very much,
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evgeniy buzhinsky, professor, higher school of economics, i am very glad to welcome you, generals, thank you, i am glad to welcome you too, yesterday, the president, made an important statement. threat, secondly, of course, we will be able to repel these attacks, war is war, and of course, i said that they do not pose a threat, that goes without saying, but that’s the point.
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it is fundamentally impossible not to change the situation on the line of contact, it is impossible, this can be said for sure, and finally, a mistake of a larger scale, not yet invisible, but still of great importance, is that the united states is increasingly more personally drawn into this conflict, they are drawn in, this is an obvious thing, let no one say that they have nothing to do with this, we believe that they have, well, for me the main thing that vladimir putin said, the last phrase: we believe that they have, in my opinion, he wanted to clearly emphasize that they can say whatever they want, but we in russia will act - the president said, in accordance with our idea, according to our information, and he did not say this, but it seems to me that it was implied that the retaliatory actions could be quite serious, do you agree with this interpretation? you know,
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dmitry, i agree, moreover, i get the impression that, well, maybe this not exactly a parliamentary expression, but the administration of president biden, they just got their teeth into the matter, there’s a russian proverb, that is, you know, they feel... that they are in a dead end situation, they believe, firstly, that they cannot lose , the second loss after afghanistan, this will be, especially before the presidential elections from my point of view, from internal political positions, it will be deadly, and they cannot win either, so they chose a path that, well, cannot lead to winning, that is, by escalation and supply of more and more weapons, you know, well, in war they say that weapons, of course, decide, people decide, first of all, the numerical level
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of training. there must be an appropriate one, in both of these parameters, uh, for ukraine - in general, things are not going very well, uh, not very great, as for just numbers, the mobilization resource of ukraine, it is very close to exhaustion, what they - are already frantically grabbing people on the streets, what they have already moved on to, completely - let's say, uh, not even agitation, but there are propaganda videos on television saying that women should join the ranks to defend their homeland, that is, they are no longer talking about doctors, there are pharmacists, they are just talking about women, there is talk about lowering the conscription age, they have already raised the target to 60 years, uh
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, there is talk, there is talk of raising it to 65, plus - they have reduced the list of diseases as much as possible, there is a list of diseases, in any army in the world we also have one, which determine the categories of people who are subject to conscription for military service or not, so that’s the rule it is quite extensive because all the diseases are listed there, from diseases of the internal organs to diseases of the musculoskeletal system and mental state, in my opinion they have already reduced it to the minimum, they are already... people with mental disorders, they take almost people with disabilities, well that is, all this indicates that the mobilization resource, i repeat once again, is close to exhaustion, the same applies to the training of specialists, you know, one thing, the americans themselves note, is one of the weaknesses of the ukrainian armed forces, despite the fact that they
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they say that these are the strongest, practically armed forces in europe, taking into account... experience that they fight with foreign weapons, they are ukraine, and this is paradoxical, because at the time of the collapse of the soviet union, ukraine had, well, almost the most, well, after russia , probably, after all, but the second largest military-industrial complex after russia, in terms of power, they produced armored vehicles, artillery systems, missile weapons, they produced transport aircraft at the plant. well, they didn’t produce some things, but still less, they produced a lot, now , as far as i see from the reports, they no longer produce anything, on the one hand, this is the result of the actions of the russian armed forces, which have been since last summer , after, or rather since october last year after the attack on the crimean bridge, they began to
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disable objects. structure, including enterprises of the military-industrial complex, therefore they fight mainly with western weapons, and in order to fight western, meaning, having only western weapons systems in service, they need specialists, specialists, and i don’t really believe, you know, in accelerated courses , you can quickly train infantrymen, you know, so... 2 months i went into the hands of a rifle, so to speak, well, what the ukrainians are doing now, but to train a specialist capable of managing and using military equipment, complex military equipment, and modern military equipment, western, is complex, just like ours, then fundamental training is needed, neither the time nor the capabilities of the united states and its
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western europeans. no, so the task is which the americans still set themselves, that to ensure the victory of ukraine, it is unattainable, and one more point, what i mentioned, i’ll just finish this thought, what matters is the quality of weapons, but also the quantity, and if you look, here you are you often demonstrate statistical tables supplied... there seem to be a lot of equipment at first glance, hundreds, even thousands in some positions, but the diversity, it is simply amazing, 20 of these, 50 of these, 30 of these, 70 of these, i mean just t72 tanks , leopards, challengers, amx30, french, now maybe the abrams will also be suitable, because each tank has its own repair base
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, its own spare parts, its own, uh, maintenance system, despite the fact that, of course, much is unified in nato, but not everything, not everything is unified, and... therefore , a specialist who services abrams tanks cannot just go to the next workshop and start servicing leopards. general, you are right, i will not argue with you about what you say and what president putin said, these supplies are radical, radical do not change anything, if we fundamentally keep in mind that... the ukrainian army will not be able to win, and you have repeatedly said, i fully support this, that russia has not yet used all its capabilities and therefore, even if ukraine received more, then that’s all
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anyway, it wouldn’t change dramatically, because ukraine lives at someone else’s expense, it gets sucked in, this is not the best way to have a competent professional army, so let’s, so to speak, remove it... this is a problem from the table. we have a consensus that ukraine cannot win. yes, but i have another question: let’s imagine that these american supplies would not have been, uh, and there would have been no other nato supplies. do you agree, something would change dramatically. ukraine would not be able to fight. well, of course, by the way, the president spoke about this not so long ago, in my opinion, even in a conversation with you in valdai, the president said that if there were no western supplies, ukraine would have lasted a maximum of a week, and i think less, because if you cut off all supplies, but
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they would have finished off what they still had left, so to speak, and then everything, then a dead end, because i repeat once again, they themselves no longer produce anything, and moreover, they can’t even repair those same leopards. as far as i have read, not so long ago rhine metal already refused to create, at least in the foreseeable future, some kind of repair facilities on the territory of ukraine, anyway, this is on the territory of poland, that is , they cannot even carry out repairs of western equipment on their territory, in in general, it turns out to be a very interesting situation, president biden, his advisers say, not only peaceful people, we are reasonable people, we are not giving ukraine anything that could lead to russian escalation, but at the same time, it ’s because of them, it’s because of these supplies, russia
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is everything is still at war, it’s because of them, it ’s because of their supplies, russian people are dying, it ’s because of them, because of their supplies, it’s difficult to carry out any others. very important programs, basic social obligations are being fulfilled, you don’t need to be a sophisticated analyst to understand that if money, which are required for this operation, if they were spent on other purposes, then how would russia not interfere with this, so in this regard i want to ask what role, how to determine the role of the united states in this war? yes, indeed, american units are not fighting, yes, indeed, unlike the korean war, when there were soviet and chinese pilots, there are no
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american pilots there yet, this is all true, and we must keep these differences in mind, but you should draw up for a short list of what the united states and its nato allies are doing for ukraine. weapons are already worth 50 billion dollars, only american, of course ammunition, intelligence, and you can explain better than me what intelligence is, what role it plays in this war, where delivering precise strikes is extremely important, and this detailed information is very often delivered, what is called: operational planning, there are people from the pentagon, in
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the ukrainian command in kiev, plus, even people like the recent chairman of the american chiefs committee, general mealy, himself. took part in the planning of ukrainian operations, this is not a fabrication in moscow, and this is not an assumption, this is what they say officially in kiev... in washington, further, military advisers, and not only at the level of brigade corps, but even at at a lower level, further than the equipment, they are not yet, as far as i know, on the line of contact, but there are many of them, they play a key role, medical personnel, this is something new, before, even the americans who
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fought one way or another in the ukrainian the army treated them in ukrainian hospitals, now they are taken to a special american hospital in germany, well, after this list, maybe you want to add something to it or question something, but after this list, we can say that connected... is direct and immediate participant in the military conflict in ukraine. the short answer is certainly, now let's start where you started the role of the united states. i believe that, firstly, it is destructive, and secondly, it is absolutely irrational, because, no, on the one hand it is rational, because well, the united states is supplying more and more new types of weapons.
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not the most formidable weapon, but unpleasant, i agree with the president for a second, excuse me, this is what one supposedly leading military expert, the president of the american university in kiev, says , the post sounds more like for a propagandist, but look what he said about this, and as quoted by the new york times, dan rice, president of the american university in kiev, and a military expert who... has long lobbied for american supplies of ammunition, disputed mr. putin's assessment of new threats from the attack. these are ballistic missiles. he has no defense against them except misinformation. any army depot, command post or large concentration of troops within 100 miles of the front line is now at risk, rice said. this is completely untrue, because russian systems, the same s300 s-400, they are, so to speak, designed for interception. intercept a ballistic missile from nonsense, no dmitry,
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it doesn’t exist at all, no, or rather it exists, today, it is impossible to intercept a hypersonic missile and a hypersonic glide unit that flies along an unpredictable trajectory; all other missiles of any class are interceptable. another thing is that the interception coefficient may be different, but still for russian systems. they still start from 0.75 and above, 0.75, 0.8, 0.9, 0.9 and beyond, that is , one hundred percent interception, of course, unfortunately, uh, and we, we have the best air defense systems, even the americans admit this, uh, it’s impossible to ensure, but - interception with with a coefficient of 0.9095, they are generally sufficient, enough, they allow you to feel quite confident.
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therefore, we don’t intercept ms attacks, they also appeared now, there was already a message that out of four, two had already been intercepted, 50%, this is of course not the same, but it’s not bad for a start, the same thing would happen with storm shadow, the same thing happened with french missiles, with cruise missiles, which they supplied, that is, everything is intercepted, and i repeat again, i believe in the russian... air defense system, in the russian military air defense, which ukraine does not have, so now, by definition, that’s why everything is intercepted, but speaking about why american policy in ukraine is a little irrational, because look, russia responds, for every new supply, russia, well, as we say, a response arrives, is found.
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some new attacks on new objects, that is, the degree of destruction of the infrastructure of ukraine, primarily the military, industrial infrastructure, it is increasing, because then everything will have to be restored, for whose money, for whose money, i think the americans think that this they will do everything europeans, from this point of view, of course, it is rational, but the europeans may also not have enough funds, that is, they are leading the way , so to speak, well - well, to the complete destruction of the ukrainian state, its industrial basis, first of all, now - regarding , uh, you... mentioned intelligence, yes, and this conflict, this conflict in general, here is a special military operation of russia in ukraine, it is unique, because this is the first, let's say, armed conflict on the european continent, of a new level,
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despite that in this conflict it uses what, well, me personally too, when i was involved in the treaty on conventional armed forces in europe for a very long time, and when russia suspended its participation in this treaty in 2007 because it did not meet completely modern realities at that time , the 1990 agreement, there was talk about a new agreement, then our relations were still in more or less decent condition, and the conversation went in what direction? that the categories of weapons are no longer the same, irrelevant, no one will fight with a large number of tanks in in europe, no one will use artillery with a caliber of over 100 mm, based on the yugoslav, libyan, conflicts,
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the expert community believed that we should talk about unmanned and carrier-based aircraft. means of destruction, that’s what needs to be limited, it turned out to be wrong, the conflict in ukraine showed that tanks are relevant , and long-range artillery, cannon and rocket artillery are relevant, everything is relevant, another thing, all this is carried out at a different qualitative level, and most importantly, really , targeting accuracy and targets guidance and reconnaissance, satellites that, so to speak, guide the same same ataks, if we take not the 165-kilometer option, but the three-hundred-kilometer one, and they are guided using either a gps or navstar system, that is, many weapons systems use
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satellite for guidance, and command and control of troops on the battlefield, here is the starlin system, which we unfortunately have no analogues, which ukraine would not have had without the united states? of course, of course, of course, i’ll tell you even more that from my point of view, i think that at some stage this could be the target of defeat for the russian armed forces, this is what i want to ask you, general, because we agreed, and i think that this is not only... an opinion on the consensus of military experts that ukraine cannot win, no, this is well now the question is how to end this war in such a way that russia achieves its main strategic goals. and in this context, i am concerned
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about the well-known lack of symmetry between what russia does and what it does. states, united states, with the help of ukraine, using ukraine as a weapon, if we agree that the united states, a direct participant in the conflicts, the united states plays a direct role in striking russian territory, russia responds with very effective strikes on ukrainian territory, yes, but if you want to engage in deterrence, i i shouldn’t tell you, general, but you were engaged in strategic deterrence as a profession, that if you want to restrain someone, then it’s not enough to be afraid of striking someone else, it requires that there be real fear
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strikes against those who strike at you, in this context, i want to ask you, because the united states, on the one hand, is a very powerful power with enormous capabilities, but with opportunities, the other side of opportunities, vulnerabilities, military bases in hundreds of countries, in hundreds, and many of them are not completely friends with the united states, military personnel around the world, american embassies, and there is anyone under their roof, and from intelligence officers to people who deal with humanitarian aid, people who explain how well be. a huge number of people who move around the world, you see the outrage today at the actions of the united states in the arab world, and the arab world. this is not the only place where opponents of the united states are located. i am not suggesting that russia today use
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all these opportunities. but i would like your advice on how to proceed so that the united states understands that it, too, is very seriously vulnerable, indeed in many ways, more vulnerable than. how to get people in washington who are a little pissed off based on their own arrogance, so that they understand what a dangerous game they are playing, you know, dmitry, let's leave the pogroms of american embassies, so to speak, to the indignant arab streets, first of all, well, and the other, but we still, let's focus on the field battle, ukraine. why do we focus only on the battlefield? well, because if we start, so to speak, waging a proxy war against
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americans around the world, but they will wage a proxy war against us, but i think that this is not, no, no, that is your point that we need to fully concentrate on what is happening on the battlefield in ukraine. yes, for now yes, well, in the middle east we provide political support. we provide diplomatic support, we fight in the security council, and if they do, they will most likely put f16, let's get to f-16, i want to say, a little before f16, uh, here we are - we touched on the starling system, so far the russian command is not coming to a direct, armed confrontation with the us military, what do i mean? of course, it would be possible to shoot down planes
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american ones, which are patrolling over the black sea, well, you can start with drones, there , with the same rippers, which, although they do not enter our territory, so to speak, but into our airspace, nevertheless carry out the goals of targeting russian- ukrainian sabotage groups, their drones there, underwater surface and so on. it would be possible, but this is of course fraught, i am generally firm, my firm conviction that any, uh, direct, armed clash of the armed forces of our two countries will lead to a global catastrophe, because escalation inevitable, but there is such a moment, of course, in order to end this war, you need to win, win, that is, achieve the goal of the special operation, at least minimally... that is, the liberation of our four new subjects of our federation, but you see, for now
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we are in active defense, we have talked about this many times, the president has already confirmed, so to speak, that we are in active defense, and we have some success in the kupinsky direction, in the donetsk direction, we are a little we are moving forward, creating small bridgeheads, creating, so to speak, the prerequisites for education. enemy, you can do this for years, so to speak, grinding manpower and equipment, but it’s a very long time, it’s a very long time, it’s very straining on the economy of the russian federation, and society also probably wants us to achieve victory faster, that’s why. it is necessary to carry out a view, and i have, so to speak, well, i will not carry out an offensive operation, i am sure that our
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command adheres to the same point of going into detail, i have a feeling that after all, such an operation is being prepared, but in order to carry it out successfully, we need , of course, some elements of combat support, this is called combat support, including reconnaissance, we need to neutralize it, so let’s return to the starlin system. this is not a military system, this is mr. musk's private system. mr. musk has a good position on the ukrainian conflict, but here you will have to offend him. you see, what’s more , to destroy these receiving stations , there are a lot of them, there are a lot of them, they are precisely located, there are satellites that provide, there are also many of them, but those that provide for ukraine are within reach. i think we have the means to neutralize these satellites, on the one
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hand, yes, this is what the americans always say, an attack on us. space objects, this is a reason, this is the beli incident, this is a reason for war, but they mean military infrastructure first of all, and this is civilian, this is a very fine line, but i think this is one of those options that i think our team also consider, thank you, i think that you are right that any actions outside the territory of ukraine must be treated very, very carefully, and that... for now, for now, there is no such need, but i am sure that i am right, that it is very important that in washington they understand that this will continue indefinitely cannot, and that if they follow this path of endless unilateral escalation, then russia will find opportunities, either those that you mentioned or some others, but
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opportunities that are real and which washington will not really like. thank you so much we hope to see you again soon our broadcast. thank you, dmitry. we're leaving for commercials, we'll be back on air in just a few minutes. for me, a photograph of carpenters is a sign of equality. if you fell into the lens of valery plotnikov, then you were automatically ranked as a celestial. he takes very beautiful photos in an aesthetic sense. just this. a piece of tiled floor reminds of the past, when he was filming vysotsky in 1975 and nasezh opened the window, volodya sang here, a handsome young man comes in and says: let’s go, i’ll film you magazine cover screen, kaishnik is slowing down, i say, excuse me, please, i'm on my way to film a boyarsky, which boyarsky , i open the trunk lid like that , sitting there is misha boyarsky, who the man showed, hello, he has the worst character, i
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united states, catherine moore, catherine, hello. very glad to see you again, hello, dmitry, as i understand, life in washington is eventful, uh, biden is showing his level of energy, he rushed to the middle east, now he is already in washington, in a few hours he will address the nation, which is known about what he is going to say about assistance to ukraine. israel, taiwan? well, judging by the comments that he gave to journalists in his previous interviews, very recent ones, let us remember that he said that the united states is a great nation and can support everyone at once, fight on three fronts at once, but if you look
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at the dynamics of assistance and the proposal for which is now in congress, the assistance is several times, tens of times less than expected before what happened in israel and before what is happening now with the house of representatives, when they cannot agree on a speaker, that is , we are talking about about 2 billion dollars for everyone at once , not from 24 just for ukraine alone, but they say that the total amount for ukraine is almost 60 billion dollars, the fact is that now, if we look at what is happening in republican conference will be extremely difficult, so i think that he will
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of course promote some kind of packages, but considering that 24 billion has not even passed, to promote the 100 billion that he said, or 60 billion directly for ukraine, for it will be extremely difficult for ukraine. therefore, i think that now, of course, he will put a good face on a bad game , convince everyone that the united states can do anything, but there are a lot of restrictions for him now at the moment, including from his party, for example , it is now known that even an employee of the state department resigned in the wake of a protest against the supply of military aid to israel, that is, now he is in a very difficult situation and we will now have to explain to the americans why he continues such fawning sentiments, although he himself claims to be a democrat. ekaterina, i don’t fully understand
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the mechanics of all this in congress; in a situation where there is still no speaker of congress, the behavior of republicans is generally not entirely predictable. biden, as i understand it, is his... they want to vote for aid to ukraine, israel and taiwan in one package, and some republicans in the house of representatives have a very strong position against this, they want all these issues, especially ukraine, were considered separately. biden will succeed convince them to vote in one package, well, in my opinion, this will happen. it’s very difficult to do, let’s remember what happened with kevin macarthy, one, one of the reasons that the speakers removed him from his post, and it was precisely that
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mr. macarthy, there are rumors, and such conspiracy theories, made some kind of deal with the democrats, but we’re talking democrats, we mean biden, but that a certain package of assistance to ukraine will be put to a vote. and so it's quite complicated, now, if we look at what kevin mccarthy says, kevin mccarthy says that taking aid to israel hostage and putting it together with ukraine, and this is a very wrong step, so i think that these packages will still be promoted separately, and let's not forget that the united states has until the end temporary resolution, there is less than a month left on the budget already, therefore, that is why there are now such heated debates on additional assistance in congress, and they are extremely...
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