tv PODKAST 1TV October 20, 2023 3:40am-4:15am MSK
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[000:00:00;00] it’s correct to say, but still i feel sorry for the early yesenin, i feel sorry for that yesenin who was pushed aside by himself, of course, well, as if a little into the background, because his early poems are conventionally early, and not mature poems, especially those which were included in the collection radunitsa, which came out in two editions, in the sixteenth year in the eighteenth, if i’m not mistaken, but it seems not, there’s no brawler there, there ’s no muzzle in the blood yet, in life. he was already there, as we know, a little later, everything was there, and mozhenissky period, and mobatskaya, and then pugachov, and then the rest of the works, of course, a black man, and many works dating back to the last year of his life in 1922, but still here are completely different lines,
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the lord came to torture people in love, came out he is a beggar in the middle of nowhere, well, remember, the sower of the desert of pushkin or these poor villages of tyutchev, the next one, here is a poem, i just opened a book, quietly in the juniper thicket along the cliff, in the autumn a red mare scratches a mushroom, here there is such a revival of nature when, well, actually not it’s very clear what’s in front of you, a hut, an animal or grass, or storm or rain, i love this... well, we love this too, why not, of course, and this is what people like and uh, these poems are also wonderful and form the basis of many song works , the noise and din in this creepy lair and so on and so forth, well, yes, it’s wonderful , like andrey, it seems to you that yesenin - it ’s these poems that he pushed away from himself, or
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after all, the image of shackles, this ... such an evolutionary thing is natural for him, yes, i think that this is the path of development, and if we say that this is a little like tyutchev ’s poetry, uh, every person, at the very beginning of his path, imitates a master, a mentor, he searches, but at the same time some roots appear, and therefore i think it’s even more interesting to watch, it’s clear how it starts from nature and ends with moscow kabbath. but i’m ready to argue with you here, because in what way, no , he doesn’t learn from tyuchev, and he doesn’t teach tyuchev, he’s just completely different, no, i’m not byron, i’m different, because, well, fyodor ivanovich tyuchev , of course, a native of bryansk, and also flesh and blood from the russian province, but still 22 years in bavaria in italy, after all, this is this sophisticated noble culture, and we just saw yesenin, yes, he’s just flesh and
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blood, these places. tyuchev comes from schelling and philosophy, he communicated with the great philosopher schelling in munich, and yesenin did not have schelling in the post-sklepyakov school, thank god, among his interlocutors, well, here i am ready to discuss with you, the education was still comprehensive and access to all literature, of that time, sergei alexandrovich had, in that chest that he... went from konstantinov to moscow, gogol was already lying, so was pushkin, his favorite authors and lermontov, of course, he was deeply influenced, and many of his poems were in the first collections, especially inscribed under their influence , well, well, you already mentioned the amazhenists, this is such a foreign word, image or image, this is an image, well, this is such
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a group of poets, not so many. there were a lot of them that already, well, mostly came into force during soviet times, although they all started earlier, this is shishinevich, this is marengov, kusikov, kusikov, yes, here is yesenin, yesenin , of course, well, of these four names you don’t even have to guess who remained in the history of poetry, yes, the guys frolicked, of course, as best they could, they renamed the streets, their names are on the cannon monument. they hung a sign saying that pushkin is with them, that is, pushkin is with us , so, but i think that after all, this is the current from which yesenin came out, after a while he entered, came out, yes, it is now, of course, very interesting , as such a unique monument to the study of the history and culture of moscow, although
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yes, it’s still significant. there are, of course, scientific works, which and biographies that put these writers, if not in the first rank of russian poetry, then as a rule they are all in plain sight, well, here is a photograph that you can comment on in such its beauty, and it must be said , they look wonderful here, but the time was so scary, it was a period of civil war, it was a rather hungry time, well, looking at these people, maybe you can’t tell, yes or this is cheekiness, they they were very friendly, they treated each other well. it’s just a pity that the beautiful story of friendship was somewhat overshadowed by mutual cooling, but this period, of course , was one of the most beautiful touching in yeseninan’s life in general, well, it is clear that this period is important,
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it seems especially important to me that they traveled on tour, imagine on tour there tyuchevo , for example, or lermonov is not allowed, it’s just early, quite easy, after all, they lived by their literary... labor and of course they went at this important moment, they professionals, well, just like now a book comes out on paper, a book comes out somewhere on a platform, an audio book comes out immediately as an electronic book, yes, that is, they not only published poetry, of course they dreamed of their own publishing house and they practically succeeded, but they traveled , they had a very wide range of trips, yesenin especially, yes, this is central asia, and the crimea, so... and st. petersburg, transcaucasia, and persia, yes, all this is clear, wonderful creative trips from which he brought , from
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the orenburg region, pukacheva, from persian motifs from the batavians of azerbaijan are a cycle, the apugachovs are a beautiful poem, well, well, through the journey, let’s move on to another such, well, sort of mythologized topic in many ways, that’s the name of the play by yesenin’s woman, well, it’s not too pedaled, well, many women loved me in different forms, this idea is repeated in the poems themselves, yes, sergei yesenin himself emphasizes this, but still, what is here - sincere, truthful, tragic, and what here can be so superficial or not, i think what's this first it’s the turn of the question to the interlocutor, not the father of many children, the father of many children, okay. well, well, there are several wives, there are several companions, yes, well, this is how you feel about this, as if from inside the play, which is so named, yesenin’s woman, uh, what would you andrey say
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about this, women in his destiny, uh, the support occupied such a place, that is, women are a support, an attempt to protect themselves, to cling to life, yeah. every woman tried to help him with something, yeah, and he still ran away from each one, so we came up with this the concept that yesenin is preparing a performance, yes, yeah, that yesenin is the sun, and a woman, and approaches him to warm up in his rays, but as soon as she gets closer, she will burn, so at some point he must to break off these, to this metaphors , i think i probably agree, because really women. played a very special , determining role in the fate of our great russian poet, so we can say that he was nevertheless married several times, unofficially, to a remarkable, unofficially, it seems,
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officially, zinaedi reich, isidora duncan, sofya tolstaya yeseninana, there were many women who played, also very important. look at this photo, this is sidora duncan, of course, and irma, her daughter, and there was also miklashevskaya, there was lydia ivanovna kashina, and who is connected with creativity, yes, here is another beautiful one, galina benislavskaya, well , of course, we are also we we can name another 10-15 people, from this circle, of course, who determined - somehow played a decisive role, alexandrovich yesenin, well, continuing andrei’s thought, i i think that, after all, sergei aleksandrovich yesenin
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, by his nature, was a rather cold person in relationships, and this determined to remember, look at the face of veshktse, this determined the number of them around him, maybe not cold, but disappointing those who were cold in relationships , of course, it seems to me that as soon as love burned out, he could write poetry, in order to write he needed to experience something, love, creativity, as if provokes, yes, pushkin, well... pushkin says differently, pushkin says: love has passed, the muse has appeared, that is, too there is a lot of, well, such tormented direct love from within, you need, well, to distance yourself a little, so says the harmonious, balanced in creativity, not in life, pushkin, yesenin is still not so, yes, if we base our conclusions on some love vicissitudes , aleksandrovi, and here it’s clear, of course, he was a favorite
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, female, there’s no point in arguing, but if we pay attention to some encyclopedic data, and highbrow scientists to neden, almost every day of his existence is deduced quite clearly, after the 6th-17th year, then we can conclude that, of course, he was quite... everything was not so simple, well, i think that this dispute, well, cannot be finally resolved, but if we try to resolve , then maybe in verse, maybe there’s a poem inside, we won’t hear our reasoning, well, sort of, after the fact , coming from the outside, but from the inside, maybe andrey, you are honored by us. i
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have only one fun left, fingers in my mouth and a cheerful whistle, the notoriety of being a bawdy has spread i'm a brawler, oh, what a funny loss. there are many funny losses in life, i’m ashamed that i believed in god, i’m bitter that i don’t believe now , golden distant distances, everything is burned by the death of life, i made obscene remarks, made scandals, in order
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to burn brighter, to caress the poet’s gift. and scribble, the fatal seal on it, a white rose with a black toad, i wanted to marry on earth, even if it didn’t work out, even if it didn’t come true, these thoughts of pink days, but the devils nested in my soul, which means angels lived in it, that’s why it’s muddied for this fun sending... with her to the edge otherwise, at the last minute i want to ask those who will be with me, so that for all my serious sins, for disbelief in grace, they put me in a russian shirt, under icons, to die, by the way, there is a replica, the poet’s gift to caress and scribble,
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i made obscene remarks out of... in order to burn brighter, well, this does not contradict the concept that speaks, and maybe confirms, maybe confirms, yes, there was a kind of deliberateness here and such a too, well, obvious goal setting , but we know that lines with blood kill, rush through the throat and they will kill, as another poet said, yes, that is , you can’t play with this, it can’t be calculated, it’s impossible, well, i’ll love it a little, and then i’ll write something, no. this all leads organically to death and eternity, at the end of our conversation, i, andrey, will ask you to read - the text, strange, complex, which was in the process of preparation - the performance of yesenin's woman, work on it, but served as either a counting rhyme or a spell, or prayer, well, i know, i just heard that there is such an attempt to collect text from different lines. different
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poems, let's listen, no i regret, i don’t call, i don’t cry, once at that gate over there, i was 16 years old, i am a citizen of the village, which will only be famous for the fact that the low house stoops without me, everyone loved us during those years, which means they loved us ? goy russia, my dear, i am a moscow gambler. a red-maned foal is galloping, i want to know so much and i’m lifting up my pants to run for komsomol, everything is now decided without return, goodbye, my friend, goodbye, you’re still alive, my old lady, i’m also alive, greetings from
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you, hello, you can have different attitudes towards the genre, but it seems to me that really this is... an attempt, it is very consistent with what was the topic of our conversation today, and the topic of our conversation was the eternal posthumous fate of sergei sanovich yesenin, who, like any major poet, a brilliant poet, only begins his journey when he ends his earthly path, these days we understand with a special feeling how close yesenen is to us, how modern he is, how strong he is, how energetic he is, despite all the tragedy, of course we didn’t talk about a lot of things, we didn’t talk, for example, about travel yesenin, the travels of sergei senin, well , they were of such an educational nature, we
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know that he was a lot in the east, the eastern routes are his routes, they gave him a lot, yes, who is this step? maybe you can tell us shagan there and shagan, because i’m from the north, or something, well, everyone knows that, but what is behind it , indeed, sergei aleksandrovich yesenin really loved to travel, and uh, he visited baku several times, there he was very loved, and he collaborated with the local press, with the newspaper baku work, of course he wanted to go to iran, to persia in the first place, but they arranged for him such a unique persia on the terrain in baku in mordoki, he was settled in a wonderful place, this did not contradict the ryazan village, yes, but they seem to be different, because you are from the north, or what, i’m ready to show you the field and the high face of the moon, shagan - nevertheless shagan, you are my
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shagan, so the result was such a persian, a cycle of persian motifs, which was republished several times, yeah, well, that is... what is this a wonderful synthesis of north and south, and east and west, yes, because that yesenin is a western dandy, especially in those days, when he was with sedora duncan , the strange thing is that during duncan’s trip abroad, a long trip, he had practically nothing creative, yes, maybe business, no, not too much it was, well, to put it mildly, overhanging, but its such an extraordinary scale. the point is probably in general, probably everything in everything that was woven around yesenin during this period, yeah, these were meetings, in immigration with his friends, with his
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opponents, trips to numerous the cities of europe, from which, of course, he received such a definite impression, a trip overseas, where he had an extremely negative attitude towards what he saw at another time absolutely sincerely, and well, that is, it was unproductive, that is, the west and america to a lesser extent was productive than the east, than the east and than his native country, well, his native country is not discussed at all, but there is no poet who would not, in the highest sense of the word, depend on the land of which he was born, there is no such poet, but if you choose between the west and the east, a curious thought, it never occurred to me that... yesenin, of course , is a european, american traveler, but there are much fewer visible creative results than from a trip to the east, this is an important story, we strive in our conversations not to repeat what everyone knows, still find some new twists, well, that’s why
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it’s interesting to be together with those who are having a conversation in a literary podcast, let them not talk, let them read. hello! in the program time about the most notable events of this day: the norm of life - sports in russia from children's to the highest achievements, about fair struggle as opposed to political pressure, vladimir putin in perm. on the ground in the air there are military factories,
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warehouses, airplanes, ukrainian targets are destroyed, and the stories of those whom our captivity saved from death at our own hands. they brought us under the monastery. the verkhovna rada banned canonical orthodoxy in the first reading, but is unlikely to change its mind. the schismatics are in anticipation. bonfires of violence. israel attacked a refugee camp. there are protests in the world again, our country sent urgent aid because we can, from simple things to smart systems, domestic export goods at the forum in moscow, such samples were noted by mikhail mishustin, he died of relief, doctors of the famous sklif performed a second lung transplant for the first time in russia, why was it needed and how are the patients doing now? so, sports in russia, next year the world friendship games will be held. the presidential decree has been signed.
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athletes from all countries are expected at the competitions in moscow and yekaterinburg, for whom, like us, sport is above politics. russia is a sports power, an international forum with the same name, today with the participation of vladimir putin in perm. from there, via video link, the head of state watched the opening of new facilities. geography, ulyanovsk, tyumen, bryansk, kaluga and. region, in total more than 400 of them have been built since 2020, over fifty will be added in the coming months. report by olga knyazeva. despite restrictions from the west, our athletes today have the opportunity to compete and exchange experiences, say the karelin brothers, winners of russian and international wrestling competitions. this is the current situation, it on the contrary, it forces us to unite. we are starting to travel to belarus for competitions, belarusian guys from the dpr and lpr come to us. the people's forum russia sports power is taking place for the eleventh time. this year it is important to clearly outline the direction of development of our sport in the context of prohibitions and restrictions.
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the president of russia spoke at the plenary session. vladimir putin arrived at the russia sports power forum immediately after his visit to china, where he also discussed cooperation in the sports field with the head of state. only 2022 has passed more than 600 joint competitions. and there are more and more such countries. russia is ready and will cooperate with all states that share the principles of sports. thanks to some leaders. of the modern international olympic committee, we have learned that an invitation to the games is not an unconditional right of the best athletes, but a kind of privilege, which can be earned not by sports results, but by some political gestures that have nothing to do with sports at all, and that the games themselves can be used as a political tool pressure against people who... have nothing to do with politics , as crude, in fact, russian
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ethnic discrimination, we learned, we also heard that the olympic charter is supposedly outdated and no longer has a universal character, some sports officials have arrogated to themselves the right to determine who is covered by this olympic charter and who is not, in the international arena we all... proved everything long ago, russia is the best in many olympic disciplines, and the world hockey championship was lost without our participation and entertainment and money. forum participants believe that now we can completely decide for ourselves who to impress and who not to impress. we see great potential in the development of sports cooperation between the cis, the shanghai cooperation organization and brix. the brix games are already on our sports calendar. they will be held in kazan in june twenty-four, in september moscow and yekaterinburg will host the world friendship games, their program includes well-known sports that are gaining popularity, such as, for example,
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breaking, sports skateboarding programming. russia understands how important it is to preserve sports traditions. there are many questions at the forum, the development of children's sports , the construction of sports facilities throughout russia, especially in small towns and villages, within the framework of the federal project sport is the norm of life, stadiums and swimming pools are opening, five new facilities have been opened. people have been waiting for the opening of these facilities for a long time. we have enough of them. much is opened every year, but so far not enough for the entire country as a whole, for us to reach the level that we declared as the necessary bar for development of physical culture of sports. 70% of our citizens should engage in physical education and sports. all over the country, and of different ages, different health groups, and the fact that we have both children and adults will
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have the opportunity to engage in physical education and sports, now... in the russian federation, this is a very good step forward. a large center with swimming pools in the kaluga region, a wrestling center in ulyanovsk, health centers in bryansk and magadan, a gymnastics center in tobolsk. according to irina winner, the restriction of russian athletes give us the opportunity to see what great potential rhythmic gymnastics has in our country. now, thanks to these sanctioning actions of the international olympic committee, we realized that we have a huge country in which... it is possible to hold endlessly many wonderful competitions among all ages, at least in rhythmic gymnastics. and we have now invited 86 regions to the russian cup finals. we have our own program, which we have now adapted for russia, because we should be legislators, this is a form sport that was born in russia. during
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the council for the development of physical culture and sports , winner told the president. we are all very worried about the fact that we olympic games all the time hear one thing, lower, even lower, sit down, in what sense, that we are bent over all the time, then this, then we are doing one thing wrong, then we athletes are dressed in white uniforms. i surrender under igido, like a white flag, without an anthem, without our fans, and the mayor of paris actually said that we should play as a team of refugees, i think in any case, my colleagues and our children, they will not go to these olympic games in this status, what is happening in modern
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international sports organizations are signs of rebirth - it is very commercialized, which means it depends on business, and business depends on the authorities at various levels, from the political structures of various parties, this is a sign of degeneration, sports and sports movements were created not to participate in some political troubles, but to unite people, if you follow this logically, then now it is necessary to exclude almost half of the arab countries from sports movements. israel must be excluded , which means it is still unclear who is there and what is doing, and restrictions in the form of sports, judging by what has happened recently, may imperceptibly follow; we will not go down this path. it is necessary to build a system of competitions and games within russia and with friendly countries, as well as create new organizations responsible for rights in
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the sports field. organizational and legal forms in the field of sports. association, associations clubs and so on and so forth, they will certainly undermine the existing system of monopoly of the international bureaucracy, on international sports on international communication in the field of sports, they will not be able to put anything against this broad public sports movement, because it will be impossible to block everything, they have established a monopoly, either in the field of sports medicine, or in the sphere of organizing various levels of competitions, and if we follow the broad path of democratization of sports contacts, then this no one can oppose anything,
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fair competition is also important for the development of sports, so the president ordered the institute to be taken care of: not only ours, but also foreign athletes. there will be no fair competition and the sport will not develop. this also applies to team sports, they scored a goal, didn’t score, how did they score, who touched the ball with their hand, didn’t touch it, well, listen , well, this won’t happen, it’s the same in boxing, in wrestling, or anywhere, there won’t be fair sports competitions , everything will die. because interest sports will disappear, that's all, let's please think, it should be an independent, serious structure that everyone trusts, the development of children's sports begins, for example, with a hockey rink in almost every yard, but it is important to remember about the correct approach to educating an athlete, putin turned to the hockey federation and the ministry of sports, it is necessary to resolve the issue of luring russian hockey players abroad, when i became president
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of the hockey federation in 2006, we had only 145 rinks, 800 and this is thanks to your support from our government, i think that we will continue this program, why, because it is in these stadiums that we educate the future... of our country, this is very important, because all the stadiums, they won’t let me lie, are completely packed to capacity refusal, well, you, together with specialists from the ministry of sports, need to, i have already spoken about this many times, we need to understand what we should do with these deals from hockey, which, children from sports schools are taken away and dragged abroad, it is clear that we are a free country, it is clear that everyone a person makes his choice, and we should not interfere with this, but it is clear that this is a business , and business is not always regulated, so to speak, and not always noble, i and the ministry of sports would like to ask you to return to this
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issue, but also with the federation , there is a big dependence there, the money is not small, the damage from us is obvious, which sports are popular in the country, and which ones need help with promotion, vladimir putin was shown statics, the increase in the number of people involved in sports, figure skating, growth involved, 350%, 350, well, it’s clear that this is the favorite sport in our country , traditionally, well, among other things, they know how to promote themselves, show off beautifully, show off, so it looks, cycling 132. percent plus, chess 63, table tennis, a measly 5%, you need to do this actively, and the result will be 100%, as for
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figure skating, the entertainment of this sport from the brightest angles is shown to viewers by our channel, including the joint first channel cup a project from the figure skating federation, a one-of-a-kind jumping tournament where the strongest athletes in russia perform, in fact... a new format for popularizing this sport. any sport has a strong social role, and today this is very important. training centers for future paralympians are opening in the country, so that including those who return after the north caucasus with serious injuries , receive a new meaning in life. from the first days of a special military operation, we have been going out with the paralympic guys who went through afghanistan, the north caucasus, and south ossetia. by hospital, rehabilitation centers, we conduct paralympic lessons, master classes, everything... when did it originate and where is wheelchair sports? after the second world war in stoke-mondville
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hospital, dr. gutman began to use it for the speedy recovery of participants in the second world war. yes, yes, yes, well, here is the modern movement, yes, the paralympic, it was initiated by the british, well done , it’s a good idea, we ourselves need to develop this, this is a noble cause, and international contacts need to be developed in these sports, here too we need develop new organizational and legal forms, i am 100% sure that they will come to us and accept our people, there is no need to isolate ourselves from these officials who have already moved away from sports, are sitting there on a salary, they don’t know where and are doing what they are commanded from political structures, if active we'll do this. after the council meeting, the president met with the participants of the ural boxing and kickboxing tournament, literally an hour before the start of the fights, wished everyone good luck, i hope that the guys will defend the honor
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of our country today, show themselves, there will be a the flag rises, the anthems of the russian federation sound, thank you very much for your support, boxing is very popular in our country, as you yourself know, and we always worry about you, always, this... hundreds of thousands of people all over the country with pleasure watches boxing and your performances. these fights take place within the framework of the young international martial arts league created in our country. today russia is not only developing its sports associations and competitions, we can set trends and create new disciplines. in february in kazan will host the world's first games of the future, a fusion of classical and digital sports. a very large opening ceremony is planned. we will have the same director who showed in sochi, but then he showed what... ballet, space and so on, and here the ceremony will be directed through the story of two guys, one from the future, one from the present,
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