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[000:00:00;00] it’s cold, but some, as reel or kite skate athletes say, go out in late autumn, this is roughly what cutting with a minus looks like, they still have the same side on their feet, well, or skis, whichever you prefer, but the landing will be in any case the soft, birthplace of kiteboarding is considered to be china, where in the 13th century such kites were used to move loads across the water; today it is the most popular extreme sport. we have beautiful fields, we have fields with hills, we have magnificent finnish the bay where the competitions take place, while it is again winter, that’s why this discipline is very developed here, and st. petersburg kiters are the best, well, this guy confirms this, a rite of passage to become a champion, a man who jumped over 25 m in st. petersburg , now we will
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dip it... valery kuznetsov, andrey vetrov, shemil fabrikov, ksenia ugaroova and natalya moshtakova, channel one, gulf of finland, leningrad region. and that's all, see you later. yes, he communicates with the stars, and at the same time, yes, he communicates with. chaplin becomes almost his best friend in hollywood, but he doesn’t have some kind of intellectual group around him, like there was in moscow, with whom he could communicate, but it’s somehow already difficult with grisha alexandrov, someone who who he considers hollywood intellectuals is not there at this moment, he communicates there with german emigrants , he communicates there with greta garba, he communicates there with marlene dietrich, yes, but there are no people around him who
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would somehow support him emotionally, save him , as it seems at first glance, his acquaintance with another writer, a major upton sinclair, and who proposes to make a film about mexico, and offers himself as the creator of a fund that would raise money for the production of this picture, and isenstein gets carried away, they go with alexander matise to mexico, it turns out that indeed, firstly, this is a unique culture that combines the indian beginning, the beginning... catholic spanish and quite developed modernity, on the other hand, in mexico there is an amazing coincidence, which they joked about even then, that all the best components for photography are here film, the brightest mexican sun, the best film - american codec, the best optics - german, and the best cameraman
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of the soviet school, director, well, this is already... specifically for filming, yes, that is, and here, of course, it coincided, so on the other hand, of course, seriously, this is a coincidence of separate different ways of life, almost primitive, some rudiments, such a semi-feudal way of life, the fact that it’s all at the same time, as it was, by the way, at the same time in the russian village where he was filming the film - old and new or general line, how it was all at the same time in esenstein’s head, because it’s not just like that, it’s around him, and he sees mexico as a projection , he writes about it, his self, that’s how you came to the country, you understand that there are ancient beliefs that you it seems that at the basis of all our thinking, there are images, there are incredible combinations of them, there is the struggle of these catholic churches that attract you so much, there is modernity, there is even revolutionism, your favorite, yes, on which you rose, in general, to the heights of world cinema and world culture, but there is everything, there is you
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in this and... how to make a film out of this? this is where the problem arises, yes, moreover, when he arrived in mexico, he also returned to drawing. this is the ezenstein-125 podcast, with you the history of cinema natalya ryabchikova and films artyom sopin. staying in mexico really opens him up creatively, takes him to a new stage creatively and theoretically, because it is here that he thinks through it, here he begins to feel more deeply this connection between theory and practice, through general things, not only narrowly cinematic, not only there montage and so on, and through the theory of perception, he begins to think about the psychology of the viewer, about the psychology of the artist, how this contact with the material is created, how this contact with the material is created, it is here that one of the most important of his later books begins to take shape, the method and the adjacent indifferent nature, they arose, in general, these thoughts arose, which are now so valuable and which are now being studied by
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cultural scientists and psychologists. all over the world, specifically in mexico, because mexico gave him some kind of impulse to rethink their lives, but because there was time, they came, sat there for a year and a half, and wrote off. sinclair has some ideas of his own for the script, again, then alexander will suggest organizing it all around some song, otherwise it’s the rainy season, then they’re traveling , suddenly there’s an earthquake in ohaka, they’re going to quickly film a chronicle, so they’re driving around, they get drunk, study, this is necessary, this is important, and esenstein was able to justify it, and get money for it, then they start filming, it’s the rainy season, they sit, of course, he reads books, of course, there are no... attractive moments, yes, you don’t even need to watch films of your soviet colleagues, but you can finally express yourself, including in text, including in
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drawings, he simply draws hundreds a day, these semi-automatic sketches of one line, it’s incredible, they also shoot in many ways, automatically, that is, they shoot , they build it up like a living mattein, then they will say that the film will remain unedited, why we will just say now, but it will remain unedited . because editing, in a sense, took revenge, that is, he was so keen on editing, but here he did not come up with any editing techniques in advance, but here he immediately built it up for some of his own associative transitions. we can see how different eras combine as a transition, for example, such an eccentric solution, this is in the day of the dead, in the finale of this plan.
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here we see how the negative heroes take off their masks, there are skeletons, the positive heroes take off their masks and there are living laughing faces, this is the same contrast between the living human principle and some kind of terrible suppressive a machine that... through all of his work , which we see in potemkin, which we will later see in nevsky, in general, here the structure is rather not so much frame-by-frame editing as a montage of certain such short stories. in particular, we can probably watch the prologue of the film, when it shows, in general, the image of eternity, these eternal stones and people eternally making their way along them. the inhabitants of the land of sacred ruins and huge pyramids still retain
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the character and form of their ancestors. among the pagan temples of the sacred city, in the kingdom death, the past still dominates the present, human faces are similar to those carved from stone, for stone figures are an image of the ancestors of the mexicans, as a symbol reminiscent of the past funeral rites. among the dead are the ruins of former monuments, an image of complete enslavement before the idea of death,
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the biological physical end of man. it seems to me that what is important here is not only how he sees, combines everything, the entire history of mexico in these rituals, in these landscapes and so on, it is also important here, this attention to art, yes, here we are talking about the ancient art, but esenstein is surrounded by contemporary mexican art, there are the same avant-garde artists, and he also communicates, cannot help but communicate, naturally, with david siqueires, with diego riveiro, with frida kolo, he revolves in this, he spins in this, he cooks in this , and this, of course, also feeds him, there weren’t such people in hollywood, or he didn’t feel them, yes, he didn’t see them around him, because maybe they were in new york, in mexico they were all closer, all of each other know, and he
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is also present in this, and of course, he is not very i want to go back, sinclair is already running out of money, then he makes, it seems to me, not a very smart move, he writes to moscow, to the state data, trying to demand money, his royalties for translations of his works, and then the story begins to unfold when... suddenly, well, maybe not suddenly, but at the next moment they remember that our main director, the author of bronyos potemkin, is wandering around somewhere, he’s in mexico, in mexico, by the way, the traskists, and izzinshtein has to be returned... without finishing filming, actually, this one a composition of several short stories about the different states of mexico, let's say, should have ended with a short story, about a woman, a soldier , who follows first one revolutionary army, then another, there is sopata, villa, and so on, but as a result, this novella should have to be a kind of short story about the image of mexico as a whole, through this woman, the short story was called soldar, it was not filmed, in general , without completing the filming of the film, without
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editing it in any way, he goes to moscow, i am a northern urdud, zhenya is a southern one, in an udmurd wedding they always brought honey, the main decoration of the udmurd table is the goose, a symbol of prosperity, if you find a ring, it means you will be the bride, let’s choose, we have a chest, but we won’t just give it to you, well, you’re ready for the real rock roll, that it was possible, and then the producer will tell you, we’re playing a wedding, and you’re still at outgurtsky,
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soviet homeland. u nasvan. big things are planned, you don’t understand the hints, you’re meddling where you don’t need to, okay, guys, i’ll go, i have a lot of things to do, you got this investigator, i need him, bye, where did your husband get rings with diamonds, rings through some lumiers came, i hope you understand, if bessonov finds out something about me, they will immediately kill him and you too... they will kill you, papers with you, there will be a girl, there will be papers, sergei bezrukov, in the serial film by valery todorovsky, bison, business fashion models, tomorrow, after program time, in moscow he hopes that they will send him the material, because in general , he assumed, here... in general , he doesn’t mind that they will send him, he
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will edit it in moscow, then the rights will be inside the iron curtain, within the soviet union, the rights to distribute the film will be with soviet official government agencies , and throughout the rest of the world, where there is great interest in isenstein’s work and there is commercial potential, sinclair will have the rights and thus he will return to himself - the money that he invested, which collected, but singler does not believe and does not agree with the material and decides to return the money by rolling pieces of this material in america , giving it to other editors, in the early thirties two full-length short films were created, at the end of the thirties a whole series of short films, although in the late thirties such a journalist, near kinina dame mriri sitton, would make her own version, in general, well, at least she at least somehow knew lenstein’s plan. therefore, her deputy option, in general, is not the worst editing option,
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that is, if you were independent in the thirties or a semi-independent director, they could afford to buy a few frames from einstein and edit something there themselves , and the easiest thing, of course, was to use the short story where the plot was worked out by mageeya, but here we have it, we can also watch it, we
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forgot about maria . the inexperienced girl does not know what fate awaits her, in fact, the tragedy is that everyone could edit it, except isenshtein, it was such a system, they film it, they send it to los angeles, there is their own person in the laboratory, who tise trusts, the russian, who shows it as needed, sends them the material , they see it all, but they can’t do anything about it, einstein saw almost all the material, but not... he looked a little more in new york and he even showed it to one of the ladies of the rockefeller family, by the way, and wrote it down in his diary, but then he goes to the soviet union, absolutely expecting that the film will follow him and that he will finish it, for the man who
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created previous films in the editing room, not finish it, it’s practically physical pain, and we know about this is from... memoirs, yes, from people with whom he later communicated, or he writes in his diary, he had just arrived, it was the spring of summer of 1932, he was writing down nyuniks, shklovsky talked about how he shot himself , and mayakovsky, it was back in the thirties, yes, but yazy seemed to have missed it, they only told him in letters that mayakovsky shot himself because he called on the phone, wanted to talk to someone, no one answered, it seems - esenstein writes, further he writes, he is dying in the kitchen... a pregnant cat, he cannot give birth kittens, it seems, in general, for him, this trauma, it was not resolved in any way, since until the end of his life he was never able to gain access to this material, at the end of his life, by the way, he outlined in 47 he wrote how it was possible it would be possible to build a film, given that
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the last short story was not filmed, how to structure it differently, and in the fifties there was no longer a zhivosenstein in america, the museum of modern art in new york, jay leida, the man who started as director, avant-garde artist in america, who came to the soviet union, learned from stein, and returning to the usa, there he propagated soviet culture, not so much even propagandized, but rather studied it in a serious sense, that is, he popularized it, and wrote books about soviet cinema, and he just collects all the material, he goes to the museum of all arts in new york, and leida builds something... like what we would now call a presentation, that is, individual frames with explanations of what kind of frame it is, but for about eight hours, well, less, after all, and he arrives in the late fifties in soviet union, it’s already a thaw, so he can come, and he shows the movie in the house on vgik, with his comments, everyone understands
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that this is not a legend, that the film was made and that something needs to be done about it, in general , after this, negotiations begin and - the museum of modern art in new york makes a copy for itself and keeps it, and the original, uh, the negative itself is transferred to the soviet union, where uh, alexandrov, the only surviving member of the film crew at that time tise died ten years earlier in the seventies years, alexandrov has been editing his version, in general, of course, maybe this is not an ideal reconstruction, but at least he himself appears in the frame, and this is such a comment, on the one hand... it seems like alexandrov’s memory of trip, on the other hand , and his story about the film, by the way, we can look at the already elderly alexandrov looking at the material. actually, yes,
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of course, this is how grigory vasilyevich’s fate turned out in a mirror, he started with esenstein, with ezenstein he finished his work. but it seems to me that image aids are needed i should also mention, because he very interestingly goes through this story dotted line, in fact - he started in new york, but then he listened to esenstein’s lecture in america and realized that he needed to study with esenstein. esenstein went to mexico, returned to moscow and leida arrived there, entered that workshop, which actually became the main one for esenstein, and with the help of teaching, he , in general, came out of this drama, even the tragedy with mexico, we have a memory of the same leyda, how is he such a boy who came from a completely different culture, he said: “sergei mikhailovich, why are you teaching all this, don’t you make a new film?” and according to his later words. he grabbed his stomach and said how can i give life to a new film if i haven’t given birth to the previous one, and leida writes down what a fool i was that i
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reminded him of this at all, and for leida it was also such a living connection, yes , and he completed a course with the master, but he did not stay in the soviet union, did not become a director, he returned further, not only accumulated information, he translated esenstein's texts into english, he was the person who published esenstein's first book. what esenstein wanted to do for so long, he even went to europe with a draft of the book, he wanted to publish it already that year, but it didn’t work out, didn’t work out, didn’t get another new book, not the one of 129, yes, new filmsen, in general, it’s very interesting that this image that he brought up in a conversation with leyday, it’s so very biological in a sense, and this biological principle in man, which is also very important, after all, isenstein discovered in mexico in many ways, his first... should have been dedicated to just such a natural sense of self and in
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general it must be said that the optimistic only thing in the situation with the material is the fact that it lives and many people later edited it into different versions, for example, in 1998 oleg kovalov edited the film by sergei zinshtein mexican fantasy, this is its own interpretation of this material, maybe there may be other interpretations, in fact, since now - in digital culture it’s all much simpler, another thing is that here , of course, it is important how a person approaches this, because there may be some distortions here, in general, quite ridiculous and we we know how one of the filmmakers, turning to this story , could turn it inside out, another thing is that this material exists in this way as a result, like a film from einstein, exactly the material, these frames that we see, they move from... movie like quotes, how quotes from poems, in general, appear in one place and appear in another place , and how certain aphorisms, and one way or another we can
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get acquainted with them from aleksandrov’s assembly, from the editing version of oleg kovalov, from the film, which is still merry sitton, who once made it in america in the late thirties, finally based on this presentation by jay leidy, in general, in its various forms, this film continues to live, but it seems to me that it is also important that esenstein. writing was prompted by this foreign trip, he was more degree began to work with texts, and here not only his important theoretical book was born, a method that is generally as basic as he himself defined it, but such a wealth of problems, that is, the support that for his theory, yes, on the other on the other hand, when at the end of his life he writes memoirs, it’s simply a wonderful literary work, which - i think our viewers, if anyone hasn’t read it, will read it with pleasure, and this book is not built like an ordinary memoir, where a person
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describes his life sequentially, it is dedicated to only two periods: childhood, when he accumulated impressions in general, such a story of accumulation of impressions, this is the story of how a person learned to think in images, while it is told absolutely vividly and laconically in short individual phrases, on the other hand, a foreign trip, the second period of accumulation of impressions . it turns out that in fact we can take uzenshtein not only from the finished study of him as finished, but also from what he just conceived, from what he outlined, when they say, that’s actually why everything is so people were rushing around einstein, why he was so interesting, why everyone was jumping around him, why he was invited everywhere, and why he is so important, why he is so important now, what he taught us, yes, it’s very difficult to answer, because well, editing, editing before it, they installed it. after, yes, he showed very important editing techniques, but this is not the only thing , yes, he talked about sound, yes, he looked at
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color, yes, he talked about culture, how different layers of consciousness are combined there, but he is something like newton, who came up with this, not invented, expressed, yes, expressed, there is gravity, there is, the law of universal gravitation, and we simply continue to exist in this world, physically, simply, we don’t think, oh, newton invented it. why is this important, he just set the parameters in which we are really present, for me isenshtein is a person who so reassembled cinema, editing, how we understand a work of art, then how we create it, if we allow, we will talk about why watch the movie hail mexico now, then my answer would be here in order to understand how something is created, yes, how it can fail to be created. how can it then exist on its own, how on this journey
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we see, well, we see mexico, let’s say, ethnography, we see not just how... what it is, we see it through certain eyes, we see it through tise’s eyes and through esenstein’s eyes, when the film had not yet been edited, when people saw other people’s edited versions, they said, but it ’s all the same, we understand that this is ezenstein, because we see how the shots are constructed, it can't be anyone else, the work of this is manifested regardless of how it is mounted, and we see the world through the eyes of these people. and we can, at this stage and a half-finished film edited later, somehow penetrate into the workshop, into the kitchen, this is , in general, just incompleteness, but we know from einstein from texts, from photographs, from memoirs about him and we know , what a living figure this is, and in fact, when we see that this material has not yet been edited by esenstein himself and despite
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the fact that he will never be esenstein himself edited, unfortunately, but in this way we are always present as if next to him, that is, in this way we find ourselves really involved in his laboratory, in his creative process, and this is probably the most interesting thing in this case, it was a podcast ezenshtein 125, history of cinema natalya ryabchikova and cinema artyom sopin, goodbye. hello everyone, this is a free program podcast, i’m maxim tronkov, and for me personally, our most long-awaited guest, the great tatyana anatolyevna tarasova. hello, tatyana anatolyevna, hello maxim, thank you very much for such a performance, i will try, thank you for honoring us with your presence and i will try today
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, me too, tatyana antolyevna tarasova is a name that for all, probably our tv viewers, is almost synonymous figure skating, my name, every time it is said, i think that people who love sports and ice remember my father, the great coach, coaching genius, vladimirovich tarasov, and we... try so hard, but tatyana anatolyevna , i'm like in some ways, naturally, yours, and as in some things, in almost everything, i am your student, i can say that for me you are a coaching genius, you are a worthy daughter of your father, an excellent accomplished specialist, the most famous name in figure skating , i tried not to let you down, this is what is happening now, all this consideration of the case of kamilla valiev and
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the statement, i also said today, my nerves are already frayed, they are considering something that does not need to be considered, because there is no case there, and the girls are only they're ruining our lives, but girls, the most important thing, i don’t understand what they want, of course, they want geniuses like her, because she really is a figure genius, she seems to be able to do everything, she was born with it, you can’t teach what you have.. .has it, they want it to be born in their countries, and not in our country, because if we have it in our country, we will always defeat them, but while we cannot win, we have not yet let alone win, we can’t even open the door there, say hello to everyone, can we say, hello to each other, let us have more competitions this year , so that we can somehow go through
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this difficult year with our eyes closed, where we will not take... participation, what else will they come up with for us, i don’t know, well, this the second season is already coming, this is the second season, but there is some way out, how can athletes develop in these circumstances, we coaches, we coaches need to teach, develop in this way, we all know what they are doing in the world, what we are doing, we generally always were the first to discover, in many forms, that’s right, we we came up with new elements, we... made unique programs, we took music that had never been taken before, so to speak, we led the way, we will do this and come up with something else, an athlete needs to learn and develop, this is a profession, yes, but now they won’t go to international competitions, but there will be time, they will go, but
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let’s not sit for 10 years if they don’t come up with something else, what else can we come up with? i don’t know, just cross us out altogether, well, how can it be, then we’ll play it at our place, well , will it be interesting, it always has been. new generation, wasn’t it interesting now, the national team was skating now and there were test skates , isn’t that interesting, but i couldn’t sleep afterwards, and what do you remember most of all, what didn’t let you sleep, some skates that were , oh, what, and it’s still september, and no one would, don’t be shy, call everyone by their proper names, i can’t name anyone who remembers you. in a different way, who for september, at this moment was remembered by tatyana anatelevna
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tarasova, or maybe some kind of ready better than the other figure skating, we have four of them, while you think, you think, there will be some more, synchronized skating is still there, but well, let’s wait. although we have it in the country , we have it, and even what kind, you want, right with the last names, well, i really liked the baikovs and kozlovsky, i didn’t expect such skating from them, but why did they spend the whole last season - starts yes, but they were different, they were alive, they liked what they did, they showed everything. that during this time, how did they leave the coach, moved to another coach, yes, to a whole team of coaches, they wanted to show it, that this is how they have become
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, they have succeeded, this is how they do elements, this is how they jump, this is how they jump, this is how they do lifts , they had everything like this, it was cool, well, i think that anyway without tamara nikolaovna moskvina’s luggage it would have been impossible. it would be impossible, i say, from tamara in her work, she is number one in the world, we don’t have coaches any other way, well, they took such a risky, very brave, i i didn’t approve of this, i looked at it now and i think that everyone probably needs to do something of their own, to turn around somehow. so that something makes you be better than who you were, they did it, in the neighboring duet form of figure skating in ice dancing, you can
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single out someone, there we have more going on every year than in the whole world in figure skating dancing in our dances, in our dances it happens, but we don’t pretend, but a lot happens, it all has nothing to do with victories, with something new style, some kind, to amazing elements, the most complex and interesting to programs that would stun with their obsession, while i don’t see this in anyone, and it’s a shame, we’re losing a little dance, but you have some, maybe there may be a recipe, a way out of this current situation; i have no choice but to work. well, zhullin, he’s a talented person, he knows a lot , he’s very interesting himself, well, he’ll find something,
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how long will it take to search, i worked for 100 years, i worked for 50 years, well, it’s even inconvenient say, but zhulin is still a young man, besides zhulin we also have coaches, i don’t see anything new from them, i haven’t seen a couple who could fight for first place, but now the situation is such that we could immediately fight for first place, there is no one in the world, that is, you think that there is little dance in the world and yes, a reboot, yes, but we could not participate in this, we have been rebooting for many years already, let's go to the boys, to your beloved, probably , in appearance, yes, beloved. yes, because after working with boys, no one else to work with, we have a new flying stool or there are not yet flying stools
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, the boys are trying, they are trying, there are many of them, flying, boys, the boys are not bad, single out someone or, no, i won’t single out, that’s how they were demonstration performances that i couldn’t single out anyone for myself, i liked mark, he also liked mark kondratyuk, i think, yes, i think he’s the best, he is the best, and you can’t single out someone, because there is not enough original programs, charisma, yes, yes, there is not enough original programs, there are not enough jumps, even with simple approaches, but quadruples, even you go to training with westerners, with americans, and for training, and you see in training how they quadruple, quadruple, quadruple quadruple, quadruple, quadruple, we have a little not so, we are now preparing for the quadruple, now we will jump it, we are all
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waiting for the quadruple. then now we’ll go in, we’re going in, we ran away, no, we didn’t hit, something, something seems wrong to me, but god grant that this all plays out a little in the season, and that there are quadruples jumping is easy, it turns out that axel 3 and a half is difficult, somehow no one showed such an axel. like it was with lyoshka yagudin, i just wanted to ask about it, what was different, yes, different, it was different, because after axel it was clear that it was necessary to set 6:00, well, axel, a super element, some kind, and then these quadruples that they are jumping, they have been jumping for 20 years, toulub, how many years have they been jumping it, and that you still can’t jump, sheepskin coat, your sandpiper , in my opinion, started, yes, also, a quadruple sheepskin coat ,
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olympic champion, quadruple, clean, did the quadruple lift superbly, and then you fell in love with single skating, yes, yes, you fell in love, you fell in love terribly, i ’ll share my observations with you a little, i’ll ask you to agree with me or disagree, because these are just these observations on the men’s singles programs skating at test skates, for me. it seemed that the programs became more like show programs rather than competitive programs, that with some programs it would be difficult to qualify for gold medals at the european and world championships, this is more this is some kind of spectacle, and not a clearly planned
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, balanced program that can lift you to the top step of the pedestal, but if you do really technical elements in this show program, you will get an absolutely amazing program, now probably our most successful in recent years the most popular type for fans is women's single skating , our girls, for almost 10 years now , have won almost all tournaments, not almost all tournaments, they are won, the bar is constantly new, constantly higher and higher above, the fight of the quadruples, everything, don’t you think that the ceiling is already very close, and that further, where already, no, there is never a ceiling, and what to surprise, approaching somewhere to the ceiling, well, what to surprise, here’s to surprise the rotation, for example, yulia leknitskaya, yes, why do some people have rotation, and others don’t, that no one can rotate, rotate like that, so that i don’t see this person, we haven’t seen such rotations, we have seen them, but ours don’t have them now we see, we don’t see, here... they rotate,
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yes, they rotate, and here there are six revolutions, and there six revolutions, and after changing legs, six revolutions, wow, can you tell me the top five moments in figure skating in the world, from tatyana anatolyevna tarasova, which now our young athletes need to take and review, you know, we already need to delve into our memory , then let ’s say it differently, maybe i’ll name some of my own. impression of your little period of this, and you will either agree with me, or you will smash to smithereens, these rentals, well, number one, right first place for me, is the moonlight
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sonata of katya gordeeva and seryozha grinkov, yes. this is the number one performance for me in general, and this is the story, i agree with you, schnittke, yagudin’s short program. i’m not talking about a gladiator or a man of the iron mask, i’m talking about the schnitts, the schnitts, the short program, this clown -
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in general, i’ll name the third place, philip condela, the musketeer. yes, all the boys were in love with this program, and we all wanted to be, well, we were all in love with this program, we all wanted to be musketeers, and i’ll probably name more so that all types, let’s touch on it then, in dancing are usava zhulin. these ones
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falling leaves or whatever their program is called, yes falling leaves they are absolutely for me it seems to me that this program is not of that time, they were not on time, about 5 years ago, this would have been generally relevant, then it seems to me it was an advance, if not, you can argue with me, no , they skated very well, i don’t know if it was an advance or not, but they, well, some style was not the same as everyone else in this program, here i am i tell you all the time about styles, there was a style, but for women, well, i don’t even know, i i haven’t watched them at all for a while, well, i guess. i will call balerro corolina torveldin
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yes. torvil, but i’m not balero, i prefer barnum , barnu, bolero, everything, everything, this, this will be remembered by everyone for the rest of their lives, and for you, what kind of women’s skate was then of all times, maybe katarina. there is carmen , but no, sasha cohen, she also had great times with you, she had very good performances, this is talent, and why didn’t it work out, plus the program at the olympics,
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why, why didn’t sasha become a champion, in your opinion , i left this year, i left in a year, something broke, i don’t want to say anything good or bad right now, but sasha. it’s impossible to say anything at all, because she did absolutely everything , that’s where i looked, she ran there, well, there’s just so much from the americans, advice, i know english, not so well, for me it was a bit too much, here it is, look, looked, you say, a lion, the king of beasts, a lion, a lemur in madagascar. king , bonjour, bonjour, my god, how many of you there are, how many children you have, four so far, but i’m planning more, while i’m young, when will i get married? you come out when you are already old enough, some at 15, some at 16, why are your teeth so
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