[000:00:00;00] but there are still several alarming signals for them, firstly, very large losses , their reserves are very short , there are clearly not enough reserves, especially since they are forced to transfer forces, now to one section of the front, then to another, to close everything with this, on which he breaks down, so i still hope that in about a month, well, the americans, by the way, are giving a maximum... 4 weeks to this famous ukrainian offensive, in a month they should completely fizzle out, well though they say that they will also move to active defense, but you see, active defense, active defense also requires funds, and the funds are not small, our experience shows that, uh, as the minister of defense said, in my opinion , we

deliver 16,000 tons of ammunition and fuel to the front every day, therefore, these are also resources, shells, equipment, people, in general, we will, we will wait somewhere else for four weeks, and then hope that our command will still decide to conduct an offensive operation, i talked with one of the leading american military experts, after the program i’ll tell you who you know him well, yeah, but he... made the assumption that - in the pentagon they don’t object to russia conducting the so-called active defense, because the active part of the defense, then there are offensive actions, even of such a very limited scale, they lead to large losses for the russian country,

and this can be interpreted in washington as a ukrainian success, and at the same time, zelsky will use a new long-range artillery that ukraine received, and, as it were, to create the appearance of delivering effective attacks on russian rear areas, warehouses, bridges, airfields, and so on, and all this with minimal ukrainian losses, and the main thing, of course, is... a psychological operation, that ’s how do you think such an operation has any chance of success? dmitry, first of all, i must say that after all, that , uh, not even a tactic, but a strategy that was adopted more than a year ago, uh, task number one is to minimize losses, therefore, i don’t think that our

command will, so to speak, that is, will not meet halfway, will not meet halfway, no, and now this task is facing the troops, that is, we, of course, in multiples, but those proportions that were voiced by our ministry defense 1 in eight, the americans do not dispute this, although some newspapers, such as the washington post, new york times, write every day that the russians have monstrous losses, and the ukrainians are saving their strength, so to speak. eliko, perhaps, although it’s already interesting, they took . put the man on prosthesis and recognized it as limitedly fit, so to speak, sent to the front, what can i say, it’s okay, you can jump on one leg, and this is by no means a moresev, it’s not under your own will, but under pressure, and secondly, you you see, these long-range ones, if you have ataks for hymers, then again

, we talked with you a week ago, the main thing... no, the qualitative characteristics of this missile, it’s a good missile, although they are already intercepted, and not with that coefficient, somewhere they are intercepted with a coefficient of 0.6, but in general a good result for our systems , for our po system, for our s300 s-400 type complexes is 0.9, but i think that our air defense guys, they learn very quickly, that’s why. will intercept, but only these missiles, so far the figure that appears is somewhere around twenty, several dozen, and in order to bring to life the plan, as you say, delivering massive attacks on infrastructure, it will be necessary to more, hundreds, or even thousands, are needed, and the americans

simply do not have such reserves, they quickly, due to american political restrictions, most likely... will not appear, well, in any case , i don’t know when they will elect their speaker there, when they will be there, the house of representatives, when they will vote for something, then - as i read, american cress , after all, many people believe that this is biden’s trick, his administration, to lump everything into one pile, there is help to israel, ukraine, border security, help for firefighters, many believe that this will not pass in congress, there is this deception they won’t give in, well, you know better dmitry, i don’t i will argue from the fact that in the american congress they succumb to deception. how long it will take is not easy for me to judge, senator andrei klimov, you are the deputy chairman of the committee on international affairs, but besides you have your own commission that fights interference

in russian internal affairs, well, let’s put it this way, we are trying to interfere with terrorism, this is interference, in general everything that violates our sovereignty comes in different forms. it’s natural if it’s directed at ours from the outside, well, that’s what the ukrainians do intelligence services, that's for sure, this is one hundred percent interference, and this is an attack on russian sovereignty, territorial integrity, there is a full set, the full composition of the criminal code there, i was surprised that there was such a degree of involvement of the cia in this kind of open terrorist actions. i was absolutely not surprised that the cia was cooperating with the ukrainian intelligence services, but i somehow thought that there were some things that the cia would prefer, say, not to know, but here

, according to the washington post, the cia not only knew, but it helped to organize, yours reaction to this, and you know, unlike you, i always knew that americans are very actively involved in various kinds of supervision. acts, their proteges, and the fact that even before 14, before 2014, curators of the american intelligence services were in almost all ministries and departments of ukraine, of course in the intelligence services too, that is, even before this one arrived, i knew that the curators were there, no, no, but they, since they were there not just to select only some peaceful actions, they were there were there to know everything, senator, i understand that, and i don’t want to sound naive, so i sound naive. but i understood perfectly well that these ukrainian special services act together with washington and often at the direct prompting of washington, i just thought that, as before, as before, in

american practice, there were things that i want to remind you that ceru is prohibited from doing by american law, not international laws, american, you remember, the commission... then yes, of course, it is absolutely forbidden to participate in terrorist that's right, there is a direct law, absolutely, in actions, if only such participation takes place, in extreme circumstances, there is only one person who has the right to give such an order, the president of the united states, which is why i was surprised by this degree of cooperation, this involvement of the cia, in cases that used to be. we have always been called, with good reason, dirty , you know, here, that’s what interested me first of all, why exactly the washington post , why exactly this happened the other day, then

it’s not that, so to speak, in principle such a publication appeared, especially since biden and the current ruling democrats are somehow affiliated with this newspaper, in general no one hides this much, there are different versions, we discussed them , including why then and why there. but, in order not to repeat them, i will name another one, which was little talked about, or almost not talked about, the fact is that we have our own political calendar, the americans have their own, and so every time, and this is our commission for the protection state sovereignty has serious analytics, accumulated over a large amount of time, every time such a landmark election approaches, such as the presidential elections in the russian federation, several months before they begin, preparations for this one, as we call it, begin. empires of lies, that is , some very serious media outlets take over and they start publishing or throwing in some stories, as

you remember back in the day, they launched a series about newbie gas, this means that on the eve of this story with the staples they began to inflate, this series was shown in great britain in the united states of america, and there the word newcomer, so it was just present, and here in this regard, it would not be surprising if, let’s say, now who -it was there that he decided to make the washington post a source worthy of special trust and gave them the opportunity to publish materials that contained details that, well, they could definitely only be found in the special services of the united states of america, we knew, of course, in principle, that they could be involved in this, but there appeared details that were given to them, apparently, in order to do this, and then, the most important thing is why this is, yes, and then, when the illusion of the veracity of a particular organ arises, in this case, the washington post, he can be entrusted with some other stuffing, this stuffing, i think, will be in a few months, maybe, at least, it will be interesting, we’ll see, i would like to say,

we’ll live and now this well-known story, me it’s amazing to what extent people are not jumping, ok, here are the generals in moscow. they didn’t expect it from the cia, but where is the indignation among american journalists? where are the demands for investigation from american congressmen? well, as if this is normal, i repeat, this is, among other things, a violation of american law. this also raises the question: did biden know and take such risky vanist actions? or is he already at that stage

of, well, let’s say, decline, when he didn’t know, this is how you look at this story, and the main thing is what you think should be done about this, well, you you know, to be honest, i’m not at all amazed either, excuse me, but i’m just, i’m even a little surprised, uh, such astonishment by this story, well, as far as we know, well, in general , the cia participated in hundreds of terrorist attacks, not against another great nuclear power , and not against the other, the cia was categorically forbidden, you never know what the cia was forbidden, there is not a single case, if you talk to veterans of the soviet intelligence services, they will tell you that there was not a single case when the cia organized terrorist attacks on soviet

territory, well, on soviet territory i won’t not not ready not ready to say about it, but in principle the cia, the cia was preparing dozens of terrorist attacks against fidel castre, dozens, the cia was preparing the assassination of aldemore, if you remember, so to speak, a major political figure in italy, what only the cia was involved in the murders, but they understood that they couldn’t touch another nuclear power like that, well , maybe today they came to this, i honestly think that my opinion is that as it happens in such global empires, the system american intelligence has long been out out of control, for a long time it has been functioning as an independent force for a long time, it happens, and as they say, in this case it is obvious to me what to do and do nothing,

watch the fight, what we can, i, i am a big supporter of the conspiracy theory , a big supporter, simply because of my life experience, which you, of course, have, everyone present, and we know very well that people come up with incredible conspiracies in order to, i don’t know, sue for 3 m square of living space, yes, from this logic why people should not say so, those that change the world, power, money, etc., etc., the only thing that i also kind of know about conspiracies, most of them never go as they are intended, so the publication of the washington post, it maybe for a completely meaningless reason, they missed it, someone said something wrong, someone really wanted to get the pulitz prize, as you say, that is, that is,

there may be a theory, of course, andronicus, oh that this is some kind of internal political struggle, but maybe not at all, not some kind of awkward accidental situation, because of which all this came to light, what to do, well, so to speak, you need to understand that the cia, in this case, as you say, moved on to these actions on the territory of the russian federation, although i think that ... took part in these actions during our caucasian wars, so to speak, our president , by the way, did not directly talk about this, but he said that in principle it was quite obvious, so this is this actually already happened, you gave a very

good example in the sense that indeed what the chechen separatists did. can definitely be considered terrorism, and definitely, the united states was not, let’s say, completely involved in this, but on the other hand, here is evidence of direct involvement of the cia with these bandits, at least i don’t know of such examples, but i do know another thing, i think you also know, is that the clinton administration, in principle, was very supportive of yeltsin. and his entourage, and that neither the united states as a whole, nor the cia specifically waged any struggle against yeltsin, but now this takes place within the framework of the struggle of the united states, not only against russian actions

in ukraine, but also against the fact that russia, well , has become contrary to the desire for global hegemony, which is increasingly greater. so many things at different levels, including an attack on the kremlin, including the murders of officials associated with the russian federation, and the villainous murder of dugina, but for me this, i apologize, is qualitative. things and from here, friends, it’s one step away from attempts to assassinate russian officials, so for me this is a qualitative difference, and i would relate to this is very serious, i think that we all take this seriously, by the way, the flight

of a drone, well, such as it is, a half-successful attack on the kremlin can be considered to a certain extent an attempt on ours... where is the palace, the big kremlin palace, so to speak , hit, so in this sense, it’s obvious, but we can also interpret it as a desire, in general, to burn some bridges in general of some part of the american establishment, as they call it, that is, strictly speaking, that fawn that is part american, in this sense it can be offers an option when there are no longer any opportunities for any kind of negotiations or any possibilities for reconciliation, this is how it can also be interpreted, i repeat, not a fact, since i’m talking about conspiracies, which or

they exist or not, but nevertheless , this statement from the washington post can also be interpreted this way, after which it seems like there’s nothing left at all. there is nothing left, there is no chance at all for some kind of small agreements, it’s either them or us, that’s it, here’s the general here the other day, the american ambassador to moscow, lyn tressie, seemed to say something encouraging, let's listen, we tried very hard not only at the embassy, ​​but in washington to make sure that we had channels of communication with the russian government. this way we avoid misunderstandings and miscalculations. these are very serious times, very tense, and therefore we are trying to understand what is happening in russia, to listen, but russia should also listen. well, i would pay attention to one phrase that

she used, we avoid misunderstandings and miscalculations, that is, in other words, contacts, like... the american ambassador, this is not an attempt to solve big problems, be it ukraine or the blue oriental, this is to avoid some unwanted incidents, and indirectly, this was confirmed by john kirby, public affairs coordinator, us national security council, let's listen , that he said, you are negotiating with china or russia on israeli issues. conflict. i do not have information about any specific negotiations that we would conduct bilaterally with any of the countries. i asked officials in moscow. by

about this kind of contacts, they also deny them, they don’t deny contacts in general, but precisely contacts on these big basic issues, what do you think is happening in this area of ​​russian american dialogue, you know, that lines of communication exist, direct lines of communication between the united states and the russian federation know this, i personally just know. that there is a line of communication, a direct line of communication between the chiefs of general staff, ministers of defense, despite the fact that we withdrew from the start-3 treaty, the americans withdrew from the open treaty sky, the treaty on conventional armed forces in europe is not in force, nevertheless, for example, our national center for the prevention of nuclear danger in the ministry of defense, it is operational, it has not been disbanded, so to speak, they have a slightly different structure, they have the state department

this center is located, that is, all lines of communication are open, i don’t know, regarding political consultations, probably political consultations are now reduced to a minimum, but if you remember what our ambassador to the united states, antonov, said, he will be with us program, next week, we will definitely ask him, well, i just remember that anatoly ivanovich said that the level of interaction with the state department comes down to a meeting of the second secretary of the russian embassy on a bench in the public garden near the state department with the corresponding official of the same level from the state department , here , of course , there is no need to talk about political consultations, i think that what we are talking about here is, this is what the american ambassador means, this is

really to prevent... some kind of incident, well, like, an american drone, like there are rippers or more so to speak, of a serious class, flies into the airspace of the russian federation, of course, we have every reason to kill it now, and there were accusations that worried washington that a russian missile allegedly flew to romania, that’s what supposedly accidentally flew into romania, then it turned out that it was a ukrainian rocket. but nevertheless, these are the incidents when, well, you remember, when we still have our planes, so, worked out, but nevertheless, with an exotic maneuver, when they simply knocked an american drone off course and landed it in the black sea, these are incidents in order to prevent any kind of escalation, these communication channels work for this, moreover, judging by , this is just my feeling, judging by some leaks in the press, that from time to time

, i can’t say that regularly, our chief of the general staff still talks with the chairman of the committee, the chiefs of staff, and i think their conversation comes down to just preventing some incidents and maybe explaining some actions that russian troops and american troops are taking, that is, in other words , if i understand you correctly, steps are taking place to avoid the worst by mistake, by misunderstanding, but there are practically no formats in order to achieve more fundamental decisions, no, because this especially concerns, well, this also concerns us, here maybe our military has, well , a little more freedom of action. than

the us military, but uh, all the decisions are accepted at the political level, therefore, the military does not allow any initiative, but uh, from a practical point of view, of course , it is impossible for the president to keep track of everything, so naturally, ours, the american military, have a certain freedom, so that this freedom has not turned into some kind of unintentional escalation , because it is very easy to cross the line, you know, to shoot down a plane, in response, the appropriate commander, the commander decides to shoot down something in response, and then off we go, taking into account the fact that this is all - the two most big nuclear powers, we must not forget that, after all, the united states and russia represent 90 2% of the total global nuclear potential, here this line is very easy to stand on this ladder of escalation and run up. general, thank you, we’re leaving for advertising, we’ll be back

in just a few minutes. and we’ll talk, we’ll talk briefly, we’ll talk seriously about how they react to the news, about these terrorist, let’s say, adventures of the cia, how people who recently left russia and who are betraying them react to them ourselves as fighters, for human rights, we go out for advertising. bison: fashion model business, tomorrow after the program time. cnop gin is a product of

stellar group. there's a big game on the air. since it seems to me that the story of the cia’s involvement in terrorist actions in ukraine is really something new and serious, i wanted to see how different groups of the population, russians outside russia, react to these revelations, and in particular, how those people react to this who are constantly... outraged by the actions of the russian special services and present themselves as fighters for human rights, i asked my colleagues to prepare materials about the statements of these people, we will now show them, there is nothing

to show, we found nothing, in general, in general, these are people who... have a burning heart all the time, a fiery conscience, a hard forehead , a hard forehead, but somehow they didn’t feel the need to speak out on this matter, and yet, you know, what an interesting opportunity it would be to show that after all, the interests of their country are not alien to them, senator, yes , actually we won’t. let's have one more important thing, after all, everything that we now seem to have learned, and from this publication, is all also provided for in the criminal code of the russian federation and is called nothing less than complicity in specific completely criminal crimes, and publication in the press is the basis for initiating appropriate criminal cases, i think that the relevant specialists will still analyze these possibilities, and as for the public, well

, it’s hard to expect from people who are hired by the same washington for anti-russian activities, and some of them are quite good at this topic is still being earned on this topic, it is difficult to expect anything else from them, therefore, regarding their reverent love, that is , for human rights, for freedoms, and so on, one can only talk about being in a state very far from the sense of reality, the public is well aware of this, from the nature of my work in the commission for the protection of state sovereignty, we know how they live, what their hobbies are. what kind of psychotype is this, in general, all these people very deservedly have the titles of foreign agents, include undesirable organizations, and some of them directly fall under what is called high treason, well, if you are right that they are all hired, then their silence is very logical, well, i didn’t say that all, but

most of them are those we know , the most deserved. but if you assume that there is some truth in what they say , that some of them left, what is called at the call of their conscience, if they say that they are fighting russian official policy, and not the russian people, then to me was it natural that some of them would at least say something about it? bank? well, you know, maybe someone still doesn’t understand that this confrontation is fundamental in general. i admit, by the way, that someone still misunderstands , because no, not everyone can figure out this intricacy, it is really very unusual, because there seems to be a war going on in

ukraine, as if this is a relationship. in fact, this is not a war, but this is a battle for control of the world, who will win this war, he will, as it were, become the head of this, the unspoken head... for the americans, losing this is like death, so they will never resign themselves, as they say, to leaving without defeat, yes, only in case of defeat can they do, for them the main thing is to defeat russia, and this is fundamentally important, and in my opinion, it is important for them to defeat russia, because in this case they will be able to stop china, for them china is their main rival, if china takes first, if they leave first.. . this is very simply, they are printing money now, ensuring a high standard of living from their lives, quite high, as soon as they leave this place, that’s it, the printing press is closed, but there is no

other way to stop china than to remove russia along with russia, china is absolutely for them invincible, because russia has resources, russia has technologies, so to speak , this is generally a colossal rear of china today, in my opinion, this is the whole point, but this is a rather difficult situation for a person who is not involved in politics , because this is really what is called a proxy war, this is what we are talking about here, this is why we come here , to tell a little people, as they say, and let them understand how this all happens, this is not a direct war, this is not the great patriotic war, where there is a direct clash between the west and the ussr, here it is indirect, but this does not make it any less important and less relevant and less principled, so when, for example, i am not

surprised that shit there, etc. etc., but in such a war everything, absolutely everything, is included, because i repeat, the americans need to defeat the russian federation, if they defeat russia, their goal is to cause some turbulence in internal life in russia, what can they do, instability, change , change the ruling elite, and then they achieve their goal, this elite can become pro-western again and then leave china, china remains alone, in this case they will break china with sanctions, of course they do not want a direct nuclear war, but they they want to act this way, so it’s obvious to me, but not... everyone understands this, in this sense, i’m not talking to justify those there, those who have, those who left, they left

against russia, they perfectly understand the meaning of this confrontation, as that is, maybe they don’t understand, but feel, but people left for various reasons in different ways, behave differently, but there are people who simply do not understand this, just they can’t, that’s why we’re trying to explain it here. a little bit, i completely agree with you that in order to comprehend the full picture and the full scale of this titanic struggle for world order, this is exactly a titanic struggle, you’re right, uh, this requires, well, if you want, a certain erudition, a certain willingness to work with the brain, absolutely, but there it is some things that seem very simple to me. that's when a blogger in st. petersburg, a peaceful blogger supported the struggle of donbass, but

nevertheless at this moment he is a peaceful blogger who holds an event, his speech, among other peaceful people, in in a public place, mind you, in a public place, when a peaceful girl, a peaceful girl , whom no one... accused, that she was part of the russian armed forces, donetsk people's republic, lugansk, nothing, and they took her and killed her, and i don’t know, i would say that this is all very simple, especially for people, many of whom have made a career out of bringing charges against the russian intelligence services. how russian special services organize an alleged

assassination attempt against someone, and usually do this absolutely unfounded, based on the fact that there is no need for evidence against this evil government, i absolutely agree with you, but exactly what you say, you say in continuation of what i’m talking about, you see, this is the symptom itself, that it’s like this will never really happen. who can exactly explain the essence of the conflict, these are precisely these people, because, that is , the ideological component of this conflict is very large, because i repeat, it happens in such a way that many people are confused, they do not understand, sometimes they do not they understand what you are talking about there, what kind of confrontation the united states has, well, this is russia and ukraine, and what does this have to do with the world, what are you escalating,

there is none of this, well, this is a common thing. you see, but it’s not by chance that it’s people like dari dugina , tatarsky, prilepin, they’re hitting them, they’re hitting people who can find some correct ideological justifications in order to let people understand what’s going on in general and the scale of this titanic conflict, as you called it, is correct, this is the indicator that they are hitting people with the participation cia and tsarro understands very well why exactly these people need to be hit, and president biden , for one reason or another, did not even think it necessary to speak out on this matter, to say that such methods are unacceptable, that he will make sure that more american agents, or at least at least, people who are supported by the united states so that they

do not..." kill russian civilians on russian territory. it seems to me that this is not, it would be an unreasonable expectation from our country in relation to the american president. let's go to advertising, we'll be back in just a few minutes to talk about china. young general, kirill budanov, the head of the gur of ukraine, has something to hide. he brought him into politics. a big and fat hamster, which is essentially an american mole. budanov showed that he can be relied upon, but in organizing such, well , terrorist operations, or kidnapping operations, he suddenly says that it was he who organized the terrorist attacks at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. there is a certain agreement to make him specifically the scapegoat. if the situation in the middle east drags on, there will be problems with the fact that weapons and ammunition will need to be supplied not only to ukraine. america supplies weapons to

ukraine. realizing that it will go to the point of conflict. in fact, this is a circular couple, one continuous one, children in america study for cia grants, are responsible for the supply of illegal weapons to the black market, what is ukraine today? this is a warehouse in order to then push weapons around the world, remaining on the sidelines. kiril budanov from the khomyakov family. dolls of the heir tutti, tomorrow on first. alexey aleksandrovich maslov, director of the institute of asian and african countries, moscow state university, and truly a leading and outstanding specialist on china, alexey maslov, is with us in beijing now? no, i’m in the city of shenzhen, this is the very south

of china, and here we are just strengthening. russian-chinese relations, wonderful, not only noble, but i think, i want to hope, a rewarding thing, but before that you were in beijing, i know when important negotiations took place there, tell us what you think about chinese foreign policy, good for you the famous mr. wang, the chinese foreign minister, is soon leaving for the united states. how long has this been bothering us or is it just a routine trip? and the trip is absolutely not routine, but it shouldn’t bother us. the fact is that there are really very serious internal events taking place in china, including those related to foreign policy in china; we can see it in the numbers; there are serious economic changes for the worse. figures for the third quarter have just been published, in many provinces

the figures have fallen, and significantly fell, now it is important for china to rebuild, or at least readjust its foreign policy, here we see amazing things, on the one hand, china really, apparently, is trying to reduce the escalation of the united states, but primarily in relation to taiwan, and this is the main question, and secondly, we see that china, despite the seemingly desire to readjust relations with the united states, is really quite quickly and actively looking for... relations with the old ones, this is exactly what is happening now in relation to russia, with one on our side, i’ll be honest, we have a lot of difficulties. foreign trade, but on the other hand, we see that , for example, not only trade relations between russia and china are increasing, just the other day we are signing a whole series of agreements on scientific, scientific-technical, scientific-educational cooperation, we

cooperation in the field of information exchange is noticeably expanding, all this, of course, against the backdrop of the visit that was the russian president, who was in china, and to be honest, this may be completely unofficial be words. this was the central event of the belt and road forum, because of course, it was very important for china to hear russia’s position, or rather to show that russia really is in many ways in solidarity with china on the main point of the chinese agenda, and the main agenda is, first of all, multipolarity , this is the idea that there is a sovereign concept of the economy, not interference in business, this is a willingness to interact in, as we say there , a wide spectrum, in fact, this is from gas to space, this was a very important question, the most important thing is that if we don’t even take the official part of the agenda, we see how widely the chinese really support the idea of ​​interaction with russia, it’s clear why,

i’ll be honest, in china there has never been such anti-american rhetoric as we hear today, that’s what just my colleagues and karolvich just... discussed on air that we are not talking about any private conflict between beijing and taipei or palestine and israel, when, in fact, we are stimulating conflicts around the world, here finally, in china they started talking about this openly, what became clear, it seems to me, to ordinary russian political scientists a few years ago, is now becoming the basis of the agenda in china, with... this new policy in china, the visit of the chinese military ships in the mediterranean sea somehow connected? 100% yes, moreover, we see in general that in china there are constant changes in the direction of building

up its military potential, and the united states says that china has sharply increased its nuclear weapons, they give figures that by 50% or 70% has increased, in this case it doesn’t matter, yes, china has set itself the task of achieving at least parity with the united states by the year forty-nine, in fact , overtaking the united states, but this must be done earlier, so we see literally today a whole series of official resignations, which are already, so to speak , officially approved, officially announced that the minister of defense of china only anfu is now no longer the minister of defense , we see the resignation of the minister of science and technology of china, these are those who were actually responsible for the breakthrough of china, we see the resignation, for example, of the minister of finance in china, this is all literally today, and to be honest, of course, the chinese reacted to this with great indifference, but i am certainly interested that these are all those ministers who were supposed to ensure

china’s breakthrough, so it seems to me that in china there is no noticeable change just an agenda, but the determination to do those, those modernizations, those reforms that should really show that... china is ready to fight for its independence in terms of technological sovereignty, military sovereignty, financial sovereignty, then there is china has become tough, so very prickly, and we never expected this before, by the way, the russian topic, about what is happening in russia, what is happening in general around russia, this is now, by the way, a very, very important agenda , what, from the point of view, is the specific mission of chinese warships in the mediterranean sea? first of all, to show that chinese ships can carry out operations, can get there, and it was not by chance that china put under

control a number of ports, the mediterranean sea, let me remind you that in the seventeenth year, the port of perea became chinese, that is, the management company became chinese, china interacted quite actively until twenty. with italy, where they also took control of the ports, deepened them , that is, invested money, but most importantly, china, apparently, began to use these ports as military ones and china no longer shows that it is all peaceful and kind, that is it is peaceful for those who want to communicate with it normally, but the offensive that is going on in china , including from european countries, when who once received a lot of loans from china were very happy, the czech republic is the same... romania, now china is showing that it can actively work in this direction, i mean take control, in general, of the mediterranean sea , and the last question: it seems to me that it is not easy, but maybe you have an easy

answer. i do not fully understand the nature of military cooperation between china and russia. so i more or less understand the nature of economic cooperation. there's a lot i don't know, but here's some general direction: it seems clear to me. but in the military field, it is an alliance, not an alliance. this is what in practice, from your point of view, is happening between beijing and moscow in the military field, and how would you characterize this in general? you know, i will say what seems to me, and not what probably follows from the official formulations, although this may coincide, of course, formally we do not have a military one. union , but we have the closest understanding that one day we may have to, also called

shoulder to shoulder, or ship to ship, plane to plane, defend our independence and military power, this is exactly what is happening now , apparently, china really did not want to enter into any formal alliance with russia, because the current level of military-technical cooperation, military-political cooperation suited it quite well, but look , how contacts with north korea, between russia and north korea are expanding, we see that china is quite active, now north korea is also working in the field of military-political cooperation, i, in principle, do not rule out that we can reach very, well, first on joint exercises, and secondly, come up with a joint decision on, for example, air defense systems, perimeter defense, because we are talking about what if there is another hot spot in east asia, for example, around taiwan. then a lot of countries, including japan, korea, and many others, will simply

fall into this abyss, in this regard, it seems to me that this cooperation, although we do not call it an allied, not a military alliance, in reality this is of course close to a military alliance, alexey, thank you very much, very accurate as always, but i won’t let you go, until you tell me if i'm right, i'll summarize your words. an alliance, not an alliance, but potential comrades in arms, uh, unfortunately, yes , because i really would not like for us to ever really have to use joint armed forces, but the fact remains that the situation in east asia is very tense, and here, neither russia nor china can exclude the moment when we will have, as they say, to take up arms together, to be potential comrades, comrades in arms. alexey alexandrovich,

thank you very much, and have a good trip home, we really hope to see you soon, not just on air, in our studio, thank you for your time, thank you, now i want to do something unusual for our program, where i always try to ask clear questions, and this of course helps maintain the logic of our conversation, but i'm afraid it can sometimes lead to people... answering my questions without saying what they think is most important, so i will give each of you the opportunity to say what you would like say, and what we haven't touched on yet, senator, we're in most importantly, we probably touched on the most important thing, we emphasized that there is a truly global confrontation going on, and there was just a story about china, so i would remind you that both we and china call our interaction strategic comprehensive cooperation, comprehensive does not mean

only, let’s say, cooperation in the field of agriculture, comprehensive, and the fact that this is not directed against third countries means only one thing, we are not going to attack anyone, everyone needs to understand this, we are not going to attack, but defend our national interests, acting within the framework of our statements on the coupling of eurasian economic integration and the one belt one road project , all this was proclaimed back in 2015, this... remains valid, and i think that with such partners, we will more convenient and safer in this world, now, that is, our cooperation is not directed at anyone, until they attack us, we are not going to attack anyone, our cooperation is comprehensive, very good explanation, karan-george, well, i think what's ours cooperation with the people's republic of china may well... may reach some kind of real union, after all, i

think that it is quite difficult for both china and russia to be drawn into this process. because no matter how much neither china nor russia expected such intensity at all, as they say, aggression on the part of the united states, i repeat, precisely aggression, because in fact china also became, generally unprovoked, because china did nothing, china it’s just developing, but it began to interfere with the united states, and the russian federation also began to interfere the united states, so the war in ukraine, in this sense, both russia and china for quite a long time, as they say, were not ready for such a development, not ready, for me it seems to me that now they are getting closer, it seems to me they are suitable, well of course, at the diplomatic level, everyone, everyone is saying that this is not against anyone, but in principle, well, we understand that there is

a confrontation with the united states and this confrontation, i spoke about this, is fundamental. by the way, that’s why i think that in the sense that in the middle east is happening for the united states, strange as it may seem, although such attention to israel, its closest ally, in fact, the conflict in ukraine remains in first place, so those who expect that in connection with this the middle east will somehow weaken , no, they will sort out the middle east later, if they defeat russia, everything will be everything, everything will be everything. it will be good for them, they will break china, the middle east and this one, so it seems to me that in china in this sense, and russia is approaching what is called a real military alliance, and it seems to me that this will happen, maybe even very quickly, thank you, evgenia petrovich, this is

what georgivich, andrey arkadvich, was talking about , about ours. an alliance, a possible alliance, here we are all in the nineties, the main headache of the americans was how to prevent too much rapprochement between russia, germany, and if france also gets involved, and we remember, there were meetings in the urals, there, yeltsin, sherak, schroeder, it was almost a reed alliance, so the americans kept thinking about how to prevent this, so to speak, break, quarrel, disperse, now we have, so to speak, nothing good with these countries is not and is not expected, all the beginning of 2000 we were engaged in strengthening our cooperation , including on the military line, now we have come to this, i have always been calm about the exercises , when they said, oh, they are conducting an exercise, we are conducting an exercise, this is a big

threat, yes, of course, under the guise of an exercise, many began in, but now it is probably unlikely that it will be under the guise of an exercise, if something starts, but on there are exercises such a military term, interoperability, this is what we are doing with china, in exercises, we are practicing elements of interoperability, whether we will be in an alliance, whether we will not be in a military one, life will tell, by the way, we have experience, we had, we were allies, we had a big agreement in the fifties , when we were bound by obligations to provide each other with military assistance, now there is no such agreement, but nevertheless it may appear, i cannot rule out anything, but the fact that we and china are in

military area has already made so many steps up in terms of interoperability of joint patrols, and we are helping to create a missile attack warning system, which increases the strategic depth of warning, both for us the depth increases and for the chinese, so i think that now the united states has a much greater head pain, their head should simply be splitting from what awaits them ahead, i mean this growing, strengthening relationship and, i’m afraid of this word, military looming on the horizon an alliance that takes place in relations between russia and china. of course, i would still like to make my modest contribution to the cause of peace and better mutual understanding with the united

states. therefore, i propose my modest political initiative. call. from the heads of law enforcement agencies , i don’t know how to tell my counterpart to my american counterpart , probably vis-a-vis. and you don’t even have to hesitate to use profanity , as if to the point of clarity of understanding and so that not only specific words, as it were, are conveyed, but also the strength of emotion and say, we now know for sure that you did, we have a saying in russia: whoever remembers the old. let's face it, we're not calling you to remind you of the old things, but if we catch you

doing something like that again, you'll regret it very, very much, who will forget both of them, and there 's nothing more specific about it add, but say it in such a way that it is difficult not to understand. and in a sufficiently specific and correct tone so that they could not fail to convey this to biden, and so that even he would understand that this is not blackmail, that this is not a threat, but that this is really an attempt to avoid a terrible escalation, it was a big game, we’ll see you

on the air tomorrow. this is an easy money podcast, i am its host , mikhail khanov, and today our topic is women in investments, and today our guest is the senior vice president, director of external relations of the bank, vera aleksandrovna podguzova. hello. well, let's start with the most important thing, vera, does gender exist in investments? well, gender probably exists relatively relatively in investments,