tv Bolshaya igra 1TV October 25, 2023 11:00pm-12:00am MSK
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your service, but no problem, i’d like to personally s... well, that’s like the boss will decide , you understand, i didn’t understand, major, kirillo andreevich, no offense, our holiday romance with you is over, and well, i’ll note in my work, all your merits, as it should be, are clear, and then, that you are a worthwhile man, and not a rat of the apparatus, our common cause, we took it together, a common cause, different departments, my apologies. your setup is sleepless, you said it yourself, our department has various insurances, experience for a colonel, a typical detention, he is coming with us, i have an order to deliver the detainee to ploshchadsky, and i will carry out the order, read the order of the deputy prosecutor general
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i wanted, you know, but in the first century. okay, let bhs deal with diamonds from the mine, i have a different interest in myself, in wet business, milanova, director of the belyasov factory, lieutenant. employee dem smirnovo, what do you say? and this isn’t even funny, major, you want to write off corpses wholesale on me, i remember, 46, in
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the irkutsk nkvd. they made me into a japanese spy, so they kicked their arguments into my chest with their boots, but what about you? cards, i miss boots, yes, these of course, not our method, but we will organize it for you in a moment, uh, samurai, see you, if anything happens, knock. there is a big game on the air, today is an interesting
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day, because some signals are appearing that maybe the american position, the american foreign policy position, but not so absolutely, unbending. and aggressive, as it looked quite recently, speak of washington’s interest in dialogue with russia on issues of strategic stability, and this dialogue could indeed be very useful if it were carried out in some context of normal relations, it’s hard to be very optimistic here, at the same time there is an all-out struggle against russia in ukraine in the world, well, an article appeared by president biden
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’s national security adviser, jake saloven, which, well, let’s just say, it’s called the sources of american power, by the way, approximately that was the name of one of henry kissinger’s articles and some elements of this article are reminiscent of recent statements by the still active kissinger and his former assistant, and now co-author, harvard professor graham alison, i read the article, how i didn’t even have enough of the usual promises to deal with the putin regime, return russia to
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the borders... biden in relation to russia, but at least there were no outright insults and, well , in general, some completely unacceptable threats, however however, nevertheless, about what russian -american relations and the global climate depend on, i think today it depends not on diplomacy, but on what is happening on the battlefields in ukraine, and to talk about what will be the future of international politics without talking about what kind of military dynamics are taking place in ukraine today, it seems to me that it would be pointless. with us now on skype is alexander igorevich kots, a military correspondent for komsomolskaya pravda, and truly one of the best observers of military events in ukraine and more widely in the world. alexander
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is always happy to welcome you, tell us what you consider the most important thing regarding the military dynamics in ukraine. yes, hello, mutually, you know, i’ve been here for just a few hours. returned back from the front from the tor ledge under the flint and began watching the news, i was surprised to learn that it turns out that shells are running out in the world in general and in ukraine in particular , the western media are writing about this, officials in kiev are talking about this, i have been talking about the previous two days, there is some kind of shortage of ammunition, artillery, not i felt completely from the word, everything was flying, mortars, guns, and fpv drones, and from both sides, ukraine is very active, using cluster munitions, 155-mm, it feels like they have more of them than high-explosive fragmentation, that
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is, so far there are some signs that due to the events in the middle east, ukraine is starting to run out of some artillery ammunition, but this is absolutely imperceptible, and they are supplied massively, for two days, well, you just gradually get used to the background, to the artillery cannonade, of course, the guys on the front line say, that cluster munitions have made certain changes to... on the line of contact, but have not radically changed the situation, our guys are simply beginning to adapt to the new mode of operation, this positional battle, but for the most part it’s still happening on the front line now positional warfare, well, in some places, as they say, the military is actively defending itself with the improvement of our positions, but if we translate from military to civilian, then in certain areas we simply, unexpectedly for the enemy
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, begin to push forward - capturing strongholds of the enemy’s position that are significant for us, now, if we talk about the tor ledge , the liman direction, it is so unheard of in information reports, but nevertheless there is also a gradual advance there, and even a small advance still reduces the distance to the strategic goals, well, to bridges, to some transport hubs, which ... we couldn’t reach on chartville before, we will soon reach them, so even such a small step, it still brings us closer to some strategic goals, main events , of course, they are now marching around avdeevka, where yesterday the commanding height was taken, the terikon, which towers over the kaksakhim plant and actually over avdeevka itself, this does not mean that victory there is close, i think there will be many more. ..
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national team fights, but you know, it amazes me the reaction of ukraine, which, half laughing, half smiling, tells its citizens that we are suffering losses there, that all this is in vain, that we are not making any progress, we are not achieving, i caught myself saying that i i’ve already heard all this several times, and during the battles abroad and during the battles for the severdonets, for lisichan , for papasnaya, for artyom, everything is always for... the same capture of this city, even if today, probably, another blow to washington committed kiev's back by declaring that it would additional air defense forces have been sent to the middle east region , which means that kiev will not get them, the same with shells, and well , let’s hope that sooner or later this shortage of shells in countries will still be felt, but it seems to me
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, you shouldn’t hope too much for this, because after all, despite the fact that ukraine does not have its own industrial potential for the production of ammunition, it is unlikely that this production will be transferred there from europe, because this will immediately become a goal for our missile forces, but nevertheless, in the countries of eastern europe, soviet ammunition is still being produced, and this production is being increased, and new production lines are being created - for 152 mm, 122 mm, but of course, the scale of consumption of this ammunition that is now being used for ukraine, they will not be able to replenish in the required quantity , sooner or later we will get to the point where not only 100 shells per day will arrive at our positions, but those cluster shells, but as i counted yesterday, but 10 , this is already easier to breathe, but in general... the guys on the front line, they somehow, uh, don’t discuss this world
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news, they don’t rely on the fact that it will become easier for them due to something, they rely on their words, on their resources new capabilities, as i understand it, and over the past 5 days, these new capabilities have been demonstrated by both our pilots and air defense units, and when, according to the minister of defense , 24...... aircraft were shot down, on the one hand , this suggests that in ukraine they appear from somewhere, well, of course, from the eastern europe, in my opinion, they supplied 28 aircraft not so long ago, half of which were from poland, but this suggests that we still have the ability to detect these aircraft early, and in the air, yes, sort of. aircraft have finally started working - long-range radar detection, the so-called russian avax a50, which can find these targets at a distance of 650 km, but
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it is important that all this works in a complex, in a system when fighters are ready for this avax, air defense, and s400, well, let’s learn, little by little we are bringing something new into the fighting, despite the fact that we are self-sufficient, yes, we can operate with our resources, yes, but ukraine, in terms of defense capability, still... has lost, it seems to me , finally, completely dependent exclusively on western supplies of western equipment. alexander, thank you for this story, frankly speaking. from my point of view , very realistic, but also very optimistic, and what is especially significant for me is not even what you said, but what you didn’t say, you didn’t say anything about ukrainian counter-offensive, you didn’t say anything about the possibility of a ukrainian breakthrough, but
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a breakthrough to berdyansk, to melitopol and even crimea, it seems to me that this is... called, speaks for itself, we are in some new stage of military confrontation with ukraine, but tell me we quickly, because unfortunately there is little time, new ukrainian long-range weapons, atakams, storm shadow, in kiev, say that they can allow ukraine, as they say, to hit russian positions, russian warehouses, russian bridges, the command center and control from afar, and that’s where they won’t attack on the ground, but nevertheless, they will be able to cause serious damage to the russian armed forces, your answer?
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well, the appearance, of course, made certain adjustments, we had to relocate our aircraft from several airfields to other bases, so there is no need to worry about... the danger of these munitions, but ataks are cluster munitions, they are useless for use at control points buried in the ground, this is ammunition for use against targets in open space, so it is unlikely will they be able to make some kind of adjustment, but what if we talk about storm shadow or kharm anti-radar missiles, then the last 5 days have shown that it is possible to invent a weapon that will shoot down these missiles, and we, in principle, shoot down some of the missiles, but we can simply destroy the carriers of these missiles so that there is nothing to launch them from, colleagues, thank you very much , take care of yourself, we hope to see you again on our air soon, thank you, well, this is the situation in
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ukraine, let’s say, not a bad situation, if only we had been told that it will be like this for two months ago, well, mr. kadmi suggested this, but let’s say this was not the prevailing mood among experts in moscow, who somehow many of them perceived the prospects of a ukrainian counter-offensive, well, a little more seriously than, as it turned out, was justified facts, but what is happening now in the middle east, from my point of view, is definitely, very serious, and what has already happened is a tragedy, and what can happen next, what can happen next, can grow even from a human tragedy into a very serious geopolitical crisis, until, as it seems to me, fortunately, this matter
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has not come to this, i want to say from the very beginning that in my opinion it is impossible, not a single person who saw that... hamas, it seems to me, it is impossible for one person to even try to justify this by some circumstances of the palestinians, and their claims, real , some of them were not entirely real, but under all conditions, no matter what was or wasn’t there, what hamas did was the most disgusting crime, from my point of view in view, what was done... hamas deprives this organization of the right to exist, everything that israel does in this regard is legitimate self-defense. on the other hand, i also believe that - as previous
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palestinian claims cannot justify what hamas did. what hamas did cannot justify the mounting casualties among them. civilian population, to be fair - this is one of those situations where i don't know a good answer on how to eliminate hamas, at the same time, if you will, with white gloves, without harming civilians, but neither do i i understand that as losses among the civilian population of gaza grow, this becomes not only a tragedy, it creates the preconditions for a serious geopolitical crisis, the main powers of the world are increasingly involved in it. including russia. i want to ask you, vladimir alekseevichov, first
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deputy chairman of the federation council committee on defense and security. former russian ambassador to the european union, who knows well how world politics works. this is what russia is trying to achieve in practice in this situation. well, russia is trying to achieve this what has been achieved over the past decades, if we talk about the middle east, and a peaceful settlement, it is clear that a peaceful settlement in the middle east presupposes the settlement of a key element, although a settlement in the middle east is a more general concept, but the resolved core of this conflict... namely the palestinian-israeli conflict , how can this be achieved, but this
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is the most important question, this can only be achieved through collective efforts, and the interested countries, world powers, and with the participation of the united nations and others that can get involved in this, including the european union, it is no coincidence that the quartet format arose several years ago , in itself, this formula is quite unusual in its composition, but nevertheless, it, so to speak, began work vigorously, until the lack of rapid progress, it was quite difficult to count on it, led to the situation, “nothing is working out, we will continue
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to try ourselves, in general, give, give us a chance, they told us directly, they gave them a chance, nothing is it turned out, now, any attempts at some kind of unilateral mediation or unilateral external influence of intervention, i am sure they will not..." lead to a turning point, this concerns the settlement, now what to do, as they say, in the conditions of today, it is clear, then , what hamas did was absolutely disgusting, it really is a crime that needs to be answered, in general, no one argues with this, i have not seen any serious figures, not to mention states, who would
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come out in support of what hamas did, but what to do, what about turkey, and turkey too, but what the israeli defense forces are doing now, i am afraid that the further this continues, the destruction of hamas, it is not getting closer, rather on the contrary, we are today, thank god, we don’t see a second front, potentially there is one, i think yakovich will confirm this, there is a potential second front that has not yet been opened, this is hezbollah in lebanon, and these are the houthis, who are ready to get involved in one way or another. well, and some others, from different
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directions, for now, neighbors, i mean neighboring states, they show, well, a certain restraint, but this is not enough, i think that, unfortunately, in the event of the start of a ground operation by the army, the situation may change quite radically, then it will be necessary to think about what to do in this changed situation, this is what concerns today , russia supports, russia is truly in a unique position, since it maintains contacts with everyone, i cannot say that we communicate on a daily basis with hamas, although we had contacts with them, we not
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they never hid it, but in israel there were also contacts with hamas, yes, i’m on my way now , i even uh... heard this version, maybe it will confirm or deny that hamas, in principle, is an invention of the israeli special services, with the goal of drawing the palestinian population away from gas from the plo, arafat and abbas, well, let's see, as they say, it will be dangerous that if the conflict goes beyond the second, the second, the third other front, if the west bank of the jordan river explodes, this , i think, is the most immediate threat, well, we'll see , well, it seems to me that this is very competently and responsibly, the russian official position is stated, of course
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, many people have their own tricks, some of their own... nuances, but it seems to me, it would be fair to say, this is how the situation is seen from moscow, and i i suppose that it may be seen a little differently because of israel, with us is yakov kedmi, an israeli public figure, a prominent commentator in the past, one of the heads of the israeli intelligence services. yakov holds the cards in your hands, well , a small clarification, not always, that is, if you say that there was a consistent russia's policy, in the soviet period it was different, well, i, i say, that is, if, if we reject the soviet period, you take from that, start from the period when israel was created as a state, i take from the period when the tsar david founded the capital in
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jerusalem, but there was no soviet union then. everything that happened after that , what i mean, is the wrong approach, that is , its history does not confirm that the un and international organizations can solve the problem, the peace treaty with egypt was held outside the un and what international participation, the fact that the americans were present there, it was the result of our work against sadat, sadat went for it, ran for it, only two people, the rest were, the soviet union was against the peace agreement, with egypt, definitely, although it was a cornerstone for establishing orderly relations between the arab world and israel, relations with jordan, kozyrev was present there, i was, i was at this very thing when it was, but then they were as polite guests, americans, this was between hussein
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and us, that is, so far practically international organizations have not resolved... a single conflict in the middle east, they gave rise to conflicts, they fueled them, but did not resolve them, so the assertion that an international organization can resolve the conflict, the un, this, this, this theory really didn’t say that, by the way, i’m sure the senator doesn’t think so, i don’t think so, every international organization is only capable of what its members are capable of, the most incapable organization is the organization united nations. now, if we return to, to what you said, firstly, i will say about, first about the fact that a big war could break out, we have such a dynamic, the farther the country is from us, the louder it screams, the closer it is, they are calmer, so egypt is the calmest, jordan is the calmest, the palestinians are the calmest, here are the houthis, they can shout, the iranians can shout too,
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iran, teran is far away, more. what about syria? syria is not included in this at all. syria is not in a position to start any kind of military action, it hardly wants or can support its statehood, and we generally treat syria completely, now indifferently , and israel is interested in assad remaining in syria, because we are interested in having an authoritative government in syria, so that this country does not turn into , that they tried to turn it, by the way, as when there were battles against assad, one of the main military units that fought against him was hamas, they opened the way for isis to damascus, surrendered it along with him, and secondly, about v lebanon, the sheets of lebanon turned to the shit and said: “don’t get us involved, we don’t want it, this
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is about the leader.” the head of hezbollah, hezbollah is an iranian organization, not pro-iranian, but iranian, it was created by iran, it exists in iran, for iran, as an accident. military conflict with israel, but from iran’s point of view it cannot be the cause of this conflict, because iran is concerned about its own security, and not about others, iran has never fought for others, so i don’t think there will be any conflict , don't give a shit already said that we are not going to interfere if israel does not attack us, we are very patient with what is happening on the lebanese border and are not trying to stir up the conflict... although, although hamas, which is in lebanon, is nearby, there are small units , shoots at our positions from time to time, we suppress them, but
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do not ignite them, iran also said that if israel does not attack iran, we will not attack, iran is not in a position to risk its country now, the houthis can shout that whatever, we are not interested at all in relation to weapons to the middle east, i want to say, from the middle east, there are no weapons that would be intended for ukraine going to the middle east, taat defense systems, taat is not at all included in the category that will someday appear in ukraine, these are operational-strategic missiles, what are they for, they are now being supplied to saudi arabia against iran, the americans stopped supplying patriots to ukraine precisely because they are afraid that russia will destroy them, just like the first battery. but there are no other weapons, no 155 mm shells,
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they cannot be produced and are not available in israel, which were in american warehouses, they took how many there are, 300,000, it doesn’t matter, that is , there are no weapons that israel can get that can go to ukraine, the only thing is financial, then, that israel now, well, in case there are still military operations with hezbollah and iran not against hamas, then we need certain bombs, certain spare parts for airplanes, because the war with iran is a war of the air force, but for the current war with hamas we have problems no, in relation to hamas in relation to the palestinian problem, the israeli security service did not create hamas, hamas arose in the year on the basis of the muslim brothers, as you know, the muslim brothers were created, created in egypt in the twenties of the last century, and the palestinian movement arose in eighty-eight, but
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these are muslim brothers who are also in syria, by the way, i have already said 100 times, erdogan belongs to the turkish version against muslims, this is the only party of muslim brothers that is in power, after that how they overthrew morsi, after that, that’s why they have an unusual sympathy for hamas, they don’t have sympathy, they have always supported hamas , they trained hamas and the two countries that created hamas and financed it, these are turkey and qatar, qatar is its basis, without qatari money there would be no hamas, qatar is a special creation, by the way, i can say the biggest threat to qatar, who? well , the threat to the national security of the qataris , saudi arabia, generally recognizes qatar’s right to exist, and alse suggested, at one time, he said: if you don’t shut up, my planes will bomb al-jazeera, change your tone, please, that is, this is a completely
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different story, but if we return to our problem, the main problem is why a palestinian state has not been created now, this opportunity was there, the first, this is when only... in the eighty-eighth year, hussein sixth renounced his rights to the west bank of the jordan and he said now i refuse to send them to palestine, before that it was the territory of jordan, he demanded it be returned to him, and when hussein was in power there, in sixty year in nablus, nablus, the palestinians went on a demonstration, several armored cars came to this square, i know this square, and they simply mowed them all down with machine guns, so... before the eighty-eighth year this did not happen, after the eighty-eighth year before, by the way , then there was the madrid conference, until arafat agreed to remove from the palestinian
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declaration, the clause on the destruction of israel and non-recognition of israel could not exist, when he agreed, there were donkey agreements and the result was palestinian autonomy, which included gaza, it all went its way. i already told you, i was with arik sharon in moscow, in the late eighties, what we talked about with russian representatives, we talked about russia's participation in... jerusalem and the west bank, about the construction of a port in gaza, about the construction airport, all this was ready, all this collapsed after we left gaza for good in 2005, and hamas seized power by force, in rebellion, killing about 500 representatives of fatah and the palestine liberation organization who controlled
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gaza. shooting them, throwing them out alive from houses or around them, shooting through the knees, and today no one from the roma administration can enter gaza and survive, so the main war between them, i was in romali, i sat with them, i talked, and my interlocutors each had many years of israeli prison, each of them had a lot, a big record. sabotage and terrorist activities, they told me, he says: you are talking about hamas, hamas is nothing for you, if they come to ramala, they will hang us all here on all the trees, for us it is mortally dangerous, this the leaders of the palestinian authority said, we must go for advertising, we will return to this, we will also talk with alexander, who
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is looking at this from the country. and i would say, master of geopolitics, we go out to advertise, we’ll be back in just a few minutes, they call him the black general in the white house, lloyd austin, the us secretary of defense. i am very grateful to president-elect biden for inviting me to serve my country again. austin becomes spontaneous. this reiten immediately receives tens of billions of dollars, it makes your hair stand on end, how are they doing? they stole money, and why austin is flying to israel, these are new contracts for the american military-industrial complex, it was he who was the ideologist of the operation that sahal is now going to carry out in gas, the general vector of the pentagon, and to intensify confrontation with china, around taiwan already is not going away, but his main bet is the creation of production facilities in japan... in south
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korea and in europe. the strategic goal of the united states is to go into an irreversible military-technical gap, primarily from russia. lloyd osin, a black general, and it's not about skin color. dolls heir to tutti. tomorrow on the first. ladies and gentlemen, welcome. one of the most powerful knockout fighters in the first heavyweight division, fight with a professional who has never known defeat. ring, it will be tough, alexey papin vs. soslan azbarov, betting league, professional boxing evening, live broadcast, on saturday on the first, a big game is on air, we continue to talk about the crisis
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in the middle east, about the conflict between. as we see this situation, there will be no progress towards a palestinian state as long as hamas exists, except all other problems, that is , as the old one said, in time carthage must be destroyed, we cannot have negotiations with it, something that hamas uses, just like in ukraine. just as azov used, as in mariupol, a living count, not allowing people to leave, 700,000 left, 3000 they forbid them to go, but i just want to say one thing, we are leaving gas and let the arab states and the palestinians solve the gas problem autonomy, how they solve it, does not interest us, one thing is that there will never be
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a terrorist organization there again, good, more precisely not good, but good, very much from... the level of what is happening in the world, in what context is this operation now being deployed, and the context matters, so from the point of view of the context, and hamas , having no prospects of achieving anything military , not in a political way, nothing positive, thanks to this truly reprehensible terrorist attack, he contributed not to the creation of
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a military threat to the state of israel, but he contributed to much more, he contributed to the formation of an independent islamic pole, as completely sovereign... what they could achieve were the leaders of the arab world, pakistan, turkey, iran, indonesia, and these are completely different cultures, different civilizations, all of them are islamic, thanks to this monstrous action of hamas, in fact now on our eyes are happening at an accelerated pace, in other words , the islamic countries that just recently this year entered the brix, symbolic iran, saudi arabia, egypt, different, completely different, three orientations in the islamic world. they are essentially a symbol of this formation of the islamic pole. the fact that america immediately unconditionally unilaterally, just as radically as kiev supported israel , only israel, this is even more on a global
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level, without even paying attention to who is right, in general, everyone has their own optics, here the arab the world has its own, the israeli world has its own, and from the point of view of a truly big game. the west has split into two, on the one hand, it supports ukraine in the fight against us, as the poles of a multipolar world, in this it is radical, the west, now it is just as radical in supporting israel, in fact, he is not against the palestinians as much as he is against this islamic pole, and thus, before our eyes, another instance of this multipolar club, which is called the islamic world, appears before our eyes , it doesn’t even matter whether a war starts or not, i agree with my take, mr. kedmi’s analysis is, in principle, very, very sound, there are a number of other things here, i think that in fact, the degree of involvement in hamas in turkey that you are talking about can lead to very serious friction with turkey, with the west, that is, from the point of view of russia and
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multipolarity, this is truly a human tragedy, this horror that is happening there, you still need to be objective from both sides, how much is already for this... this days in a week, a little more, how many civilians died in gaza, we also cannot be indifferent to this, we stand in solidarity with the victims in israel, hamas started it, you are absolutely right, but then absolutely monstrous, monstrous casualties followed in the gaza strip , who also cannot leave us indifferent, especially now we will stand if we took the israeli position, took the russian position, which is simply... interested in the speedy formation of a multipolar world and weakening the west's claims to hegemony, and there are also positions of the islamic world, which, be that as it may, whoever was the instigator in this situation, the entire islamic world sees israel as their enemy, and the west, which
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joined this, subscribes and destroys its entire strategy of the last probably thirty years, 40 years, which it had tried to participate in the reorganization in influencing the islamic world, to localize everything, as our israeli colleague suggested there , the muslim brothers, qatar, and hamas itself , everything, they say, this is the problem, but the islamic world has a different point of view, it has the point of view that it was damaged a blow to him, that he needs to consolidate, he needs to respond, whether he will respond, whether he will be able to respond, whether he will decide to respond, i cannot say this. but at the level of social facts, and sociology is not what it really is, but sociology as peoples, society think culture, from this point of view, clearly, the islamic world is aware of its direct hostility of the west and israel, which
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for many has already been tolerated, because with many truly leaders of the islamic world over the past decades and israel, through mediation, first of all the west managed to establish some kind of relationship, it all crumbled to dust. therefore, i think that the situation is very acute, in principle, now the west is already fighting against two poles, a multipolar world was not enough, the only thing missing was for taiwan to have something happen to taiwan, there will be all three of these ready-made poles that stand against western american hegemony to join the war, but this is just the third world war, many say that ukraine is already the third world war, the second front of this third world war has not yet burst into flames, but is flooded with gasoline, that’s all matches are brought, at what point it is hollow or not, we cannot say this, but the third world war was never so brilliant, and let’s say, to put it mildly, avoiding something like this is in the vital
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interests of russia, why by the way , why avoid a third world war, no, well, it’s just that we are already participating in it alone, now , if the front expands, at a more or less distant distance, from the point of view of the strategic interests of russia, as a sovereign subject, here i don’t see any great tragedy i see that we ourselves are on the threshold of a world war, i’m talking about a nuclear war , and this and this would be a qualitatively different phenomenon, but what you are talking about makes complete sense, your formulation, the third world war could be a hybrid, but can a world war not be nuclear at all, let's talk about
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this, so i want to ask you senators, yes, i’m listening to yakov, and in general i agree with him very much, and i agree with his analysis of how israel’s neighbors behave, and how, frankly speaking, they, including iran, are not eager to fight, on the other hand, i am more worried, which means we are talking about the situation before the ground operation began, absolutely right, and there are very gloomy predictions about how all this would look in reality, according to television, and how it would affect the arab masses, moderate arab governments, and in general international security, that’s what to do with this situation , well, i wouldn’t like to resort to cassandra’s laurels and predict
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what will happen with the start of a military operation, but this will be the moment of a qualitative turning point, one might say, in the development of this conflict, how they will behave israel’s neighbors, how will the truly global islamic world behave, but i wouldn’t want the darkest options. consider the main ones, but i think that the international situation is additionally seriously complicated, i am quite politically correct, diplomatically expressed himself, and so, naturally, well, this is what yakov says, this is from the point of view of israel, this is a reasonable position, what practical way out do you see, for now. stage out of this situation?
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well, i don’t want to give advice in a warring country, which is israel, but as they say, the question of the proportionality of the use of force is , by the way, the term that most often our american colleagues like to use, accusing everyone around them of disproportionate use of force when it is up to them it comes, then somehow this criterion disappears from them. but nevertheless, nevertheless, solving the problem of today, the immediate problem of eliminating hamas by military means, and i would advise, if i were doing this, that the israeli leadership should think about what will happen, as they say, the next day, the next day how will the arab street, the arab states, and, more
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broadly, the islamic world react to this? well then , turn gaza, so to speak, into a monument, a world heritage site, where there will be no one and nowhere to live, well, this is probably not the result that would correspond long-term prospects for peace in the middle east, i want us to listen to how russian foreign minister sergei lavrov sees this situation. we are convinced that the first and absolutely integral step should be a ceasefire, resolving humanitarian issues, facilitating the departure of foreign citizens from the gas sector for a mechanism that should consider the situation in a broad
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context, we are leaving for advertising, we will be back in just a few minutes. they wanted to take me away, some person asked them to find me, a child, they say, he’s hiding me, yes, in ukraine now children in a war zone can be taken away without parental consent, white angels, they just pushed the child into the car, he screams, mom, they ’ll give me up for organs now, don’t give me up, there was an operating room on the second floor where they they just gutted it, 7% of the budget revenues of ukraine, black transplantology, a built system at the state level, they come, for example, and say that we are interested in boys and girls, from 11 to 13, light-eyed, fair-haired, this is just consumable material for the european union, they treat this
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issue as buying a product in a store, it is from those people, from the obekuns, who... special report ukraine children for sale on sunday on the first. montechoca cognac, a product of the stellar group. the big game is on air, and so are we. we turn to our guest from israel and regular participant in our program, jacob ketbi. the first point is the release of hostages. no release of hostages, no cessation. secondly, i want to say a few words about the islamic world. well, i know him well. all the islamic world was against the creation of israel.
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the entire islamic world came out to demonstrate in 1967, 1973 , 1982. yes. what happened then is not repeated today, they have their own interests, they have their own interests, and there are no big demonstrations on the streets of jekarta, where they are traditionally, iraq, iran, cairo, iraq and istanbul by order, erdogan, we are this we’ve already gone through everything, we don’t care at all, here are the demonstrations on the streets of cairo, we ’ve seen them so many times, we don’t care at all, this is their problem, this is a problem for alsisi, that he knows when people demonstrate in tahrir square, tomorrow they will go to the presidential palace, let him solve this problem, this is the dynamics of the arab world, in relation to what you what
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you say that once the hamas problem is solved, it cannot be solved in any other way, as you do, and then everything depends on what you asked, how events will develop, i will tell you, the first thing is when the offensive begins, at what pace with how successful it will be, this is absolutely true, the faster and more effective it is, the faster the result will be, but i know one thing, as soon as it drags on, the whole west, uh-huh, and the united states will put pressure on us, stop, we are in this film has always been, i want to add to you, that's where you come from. began, today the west is making enormous efforts to tie ukraine and the middle east together, because in ukraine they are losing, they want the middle east, they think that our victory over hamas will give public response to them will strengthen them, and we are trying to get away from this, we say, there is no
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connection between this, this is one problem, this is another, in relation to ukraine... israel stated unequivocally, we are not participating in this, this is not our conflict between ukraine and russia, now they wanted a line, when western leaders wanted to go to israel, who was the first to jump in line? zelensky, yeah , we didn’t accept it, we said no, i won’t say to what address we sent it, kuleba said, no, israel won’t let us refused, he said, this is... for the third millennium, i don’t know, but we are trying not to connect this, because these are different things, the one who is trying to connect this, he wants to earn political capital using our conflict, which is our middle east in our own interests, we have already been in this, and the last thing i want to add is
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the day of judgment, the third army, the americans were on our side. but when we stood against the third army, i remember, i myself stood and waited for us to be given the order to destroy it, got in the way, and he built on it. the whole strategy the united states said only i can stop the israelis, work with us, so they sharply increased their influence in the middle east after our victory, now they want to repeat this and salvan did not just mention kisenger, again very accurately, but salvan is not just so mentioned kisinger, he is a small philosopher, but at that, at that, at that level. who you know him better, who is in american power today, he still stands out in terms of intelligence, this is not blinken, and he tries
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to create some kind of theory if he fails create an ideology at the level of brzezhinski, at least a theory at the level of kisinger , this document is a game on this, and the last thing i want to say is that the americans feel their weakness, otherwise they would not have asked... russia to start negotiations on strategic weapons, they feel that everything is going against them. i couldn't agree more. i will touch on the last point about the so-called strategic proposal, negotiations on strategic stability. this format existed before, but talking about it now is in isolation from of everything that is happening, well, it looks at least strange , talking about strategic offensive weapons
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, when what happens in ukraine is what is happening, not to mention what may be happening in the middle east, this is some kind of so to speak , surrealism, i would say so, moreover, what about the stated political goal of the american administration to inflict a strategic defeat on russia, how does this fit in with the idea of negotiations on strategic stability, so for now, of course, we will study this proposal, if it acquires some kind of concreteness, a specific form in writing or something like that, but so far this idea raises more questions than answers, i agree, i think that we are losing sight of that
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global context if we are not now let's stand on the side to defend israel , because by standing we get nothing, in my opinion, israel is not a civilization, israel is a regional entity, important, serious in the middle east, but it is not, not the center of the world. from a geopolitical point of view, the centers are different and here it seems to me at the same time if we we will consistently pursue our line in relation to the islamic world, expressing support for it, but russia has a very great chance of changing the balance of power in the global order, we must not forget this, of course, not against israel, because in fact in this situation we cannot they didn’t receive any blow from him and so on, but in any case, from the point of view of our interests, the interests of israel are local, and the interests of islam are already a global
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