[000:00:00;00] i think that we are losing sight of that global context if we do not now stand aside to defend israel, because by standing we get nothing, in my opinion, israel is not a civilization, israel is a regional entity, important, serious in our neighbor in the east, but this is not, not the center of the world from a geopolitical point of view, the centers are different, here it seems to me that at the same time, if we consistently pursue our line in relation to islam, the world, i express support for it, russia has a very good chance of changing the balance of power in the global okay, we should not forget this, of course, not against israel, because in fact in this situation we did not receive any blow from it and so on, but in any case, from the point of view of our interests, israel’s interests are local , and the interests of islam are already a global factor, and if

now... the anti-western mood in the islamic world increases, the anti-american ones, they will intensify. russia, of course, makes sense to be, to prove itself as a friend of the islamic world, because israel’s friend is the united states, with whom we are at war. ukraine. and this should not be overlooked. of course, i appreciate such a friendly attitude of some israelis, like jacob and yosipovich, there are such people, in russia they exist, in israel they exist, who really see israel as a sovereign entity, this is religious, it makes sense, messianic makes sense, but geopolitical is doesn’t make sense yet, when my shah would appear, it would immediately bloom, but no, no, and i think that this eschatological aspect of the situation in the middle east is not accidental, hamas called this operation the alexa flow, which we are missing because there is one deepest dimension to this whole conflict that we are not paying attention to

except..." that era when everything was explained by gas prices, the dow jones, we live in the world of religion, the religious factor now plays a colossal role in israeli politics, in arab politics, in russian politics, i think, similarly in american politics, we must rediscover and rewrite this situation. in my opinion, this terrible conflict, we should rewrite this taking into account religious scatological terms, this will be, this will add depth to our analysis , as i understand, prime minister netanyahu does not burn with brotherly love for president biden, and as i understand, president biden fully reciprocates his love,

nevertheless, mr. netanyahu, from my point of view, is quite reasonable for the prime minister of israel, understands that israel has very important interests in partnering with the united states and in working with america on such an issue, in the situation in which israel finds itself. russia has another situation, russia has its own relations, very important relations with iran , this does not mean supporting iran in the war against israel, but it means, naturally, understanding, more, let’s say, with more sympathy, the iranian position than is natural for israel, arab countries, in the context of the struggle that is taking place now for the structure of the world, yakov, i don’t have to tell you, you know

as well as me. that for russia, the support of arab countries is extremely important, this does not mean that i am for cynical options to call white blacks, and betray israel to the jews, but simply when assessing what interests russia has, it seems to me that this is inevitable to take into account, and the last thing: you very accurately said how they will begin to put pressure on israel if this ground operation drags on, you again you know this better than me, but i was in beirut in 1982, when sharon’s famous operation took place, and again, you know better than me how quickly the mood in the world changed in the united states, and how reagan reacted from complete

support, complete mockery of israel , moved to pressure on prime minister begin to stop the israeli operation and get rid of sharon. i really don't want us to get to a situation where this kind of escalation leads to the kind of sentiment that we've seen in the past. and lastly, i cannot imagine how anyone, the prime minister of israel, and any normal leader, would agree not to use force against gaza, would agree to ... a ceasefire without the release of the hostages, but it would simply not only be wrong, this is this this would be unrealistic, it will not happen, but it is also difficult for me to imagine how it would be possible

to convince the arab countries to make a decision when the hostages are released, and after that israel will begin its ground operation, this refers to a saying that is well known , the devil is in the details, in this case, the devil is in the sequence, in the sequence of steps to find some kind of solution, whether it is possible or not, do you think, i believe that it is possible if you act correctly and competently, like a military man, and diplomatically, but i i want, unlike me, i don't really like to talk about my conversations with people. but you were right about the relationship between israel and the united states, but i heard from one person, your president, in one conversation that i had, he said, we

understand very well that israel has and will have a special relationship with the united states, we we are not against these relations, we only want one thing, that they should never be directed against russia and russian interests, this is the axiom that exists and we also understand this russia’s special interests in the islamic world, in the arab world, internal political, foreign political, so we have exactly the same position, we understand them, we accept them, it is a historical necessity that they are not directed against our interests and our security, this kind of base can be the basis for our healthy... relationships? yakov, thank you, i, i think it was a serious conversation, about a very serious situation, we definitely did not find any solutions,

our task was not to find any solutions, but it seems to me that if this conversation showed anything, that the search for solutions, that this is not a hopeless task and that it can and should be pursued. it was a big game. we'll see you on the air tomorrow. hello, this is a psychic podcast and we continue to explore the depths of our. underwater psychological worlds. the topic of today's podcast is no coincidence, because october is breast cancer awareness month . we will certainly defeat cancer, well, in every sense, we will win and in general we will win, but

sometimes it is very difficult to believe in it the moment when you learn about your diagnosis, about how to survive cancer, about how to stay healthy, full... of strength, energy and with a normal psyche, today we will talk from the heroine who is undergoing treatment right now, hello, yulia, hello, with my colleague, a colleague in many ways, we will talk about this in a little more detail, this is anna tarubarova, journalist, cancer blogger and cancer petitioner, hello anna, i understand that you knew each other online, yes, that is, you are yulia subscribed on anna , how are you right now for the first time with us? we saw each other for the first time, and for the first time i heard yulia’s voice, usually all my ideas about girls are based solely on correspondence, when i found out about my diagnosis, i immediately began looking for a person who had gone through

a similar path, i found anna, she seemed very beautiful to me, strong, so i decided to write to her asking for help, i defeated my cancer more than 20 years ago, and my... mission, thank god, has been going on for many, many years, although it shouldn’t have lasted so long, and i should have been with you sit here, but nevertheless, when, uh, my doctor, who was not just an oncologist, but also an oncological psychologist, and then this was very rare, told me that you know, 10% depends on me, well, on her, as a doctor, and 90% is yours mood, that’s why i would like to conduct our conversation today in this way, not just you know, in this positive way, everything will be fine , the three of us know that this path, it’s so difficult, let’s be honest, in different ways it happens, and it happens in different ways, well, let's

talk about those different fears, through which the patient, his relative, and society have to go through, this is the number one fear, it seems to me, the most important one, which very much prevents us from being healthy, this is the fear of a potential hypothetical diagnosis, the fear of saying the word cancer, yes, a three-letter word , this is also such a super stereotype, well, yes, that’s why everyone is afraid. talk, if we don’t, we’ll pronounce it like some words that have already taken root in our lives, and therefore, i think that the taboo should be removed from this word, it seems to me that the taboo should be removed in general from oncology, that's why the more people, those who actually survived this disease, will help other people and well, that is , you know how small good one person did, another did, a third did, you won't notice how it will become - fine.

and not in the sense that the disease is normal, but help, awareness, and people will stop seeing this, they will stop thinking like i did that that’s it, i’m dying, right now, right immediately, why did i think so, because what, what do you see, hollywood movies, the main character dies of cancer, and you look, i now, by the way, with great joy, i can say that i watch these films with such a feeling, you know, i close my eyes like that, yes, because well, every time from time to time, either he is dying of cancer, or she is dying of cancer, and this is certainly , this is this bald head, this is this wildest weight, and you know all this, around this this is growing - a cocoon of some kind of ominousness , and people watch it, it’s kind of like a movie, and it can even end well, but it’s put off in their subcortex, that cancer is bald heads, uh, death, suffering, pain, horror, and there is no cure , that is, well, since this is an american film, therefore, well, if they didn’t

cure it there, it won’t cure it here, of course, oncophobia in society, it just has some kind of overflowing boundaries, have you ever thought about this, that is, a person does not go to be examined because he is afraid to find out if he has something there, it’s not even a diagnosis, you know, as if before , something bad, and thereby delays the start of treatment, if there is one, yes, with this, actually mainly... when i i personally came and said that i had a diagnosis on social networks, i was in no hurry with this, i probably had some kind of journalistic approach in the first place, because after the diagnosis i spent about a month choosing words for this , to tell not that oh, karau, something so terrible happened to me, no, but i made coming out primarily to tell people that this happens and that... now we you and i will

walk this path together, people knew me there as a journalist, as a mother, as a traveler, and this story happens to me, here we see you, yes, this is apparently the period of chemistry, yes, this is already when the chemistry is completed, this is the kiwi period, that’s what i call this period, this is the beginning of chemotherapy, here i’m fresher, here i like that i’m so bald and fashionable, but actually i wasn’t worried about being bald, and why i decided to tell you, so that... people would go get examined, because i was the person who even i had no idea that it turns out that it is necessary to do an ultrasound, it turns out that there are mutations that are congenital, that cancer is not an offense against men , yes, a very popular story, if you have breast cancer on this side, on the right, the first thing anyone writes to you is that you are probably offended by some man, and here there people are offended by such a popular interpretation of psychomatic various evidentiary concepts. when because here we can’t just, you know

, take now to zero out the entire layer of science, which also talks about the stressful, nature of some oncological diseases, but how do our people interpret it, yes this of course, it’s a separate story, but everything is clear for me, i can straight up cover my ace and say: i was born with a mutation, which means that i have an eighty percent chance of getting cancer, everything is like mine, sisters, mutant sisters, well, look, on the one hand, there is a person’s fear that he may get sick, yes, and the fear of finding out the diagnosis, and the other version of cancer phobia is the cancer phobia of society, right now. there is no such mystical horror in society before cancer patients, that is, if 20 years ago they told you in all seriousness, listen, well, somehow already in remission, when you go to get a job, don’t say, please, that you’re sick, you’re going to get married, don’t tell

your husband, god forbid, a relative, but what yes, well, it’s true, and when you ask, why say something and well, there are no arguments, but some kind of internal obstacle means such an obstacle. what does it look like now? now, for example, one of my good friends, who is undergoing treatment, chemotherapy, quite long for a brain tumor , right in the midst of treatment between the third and fourth chemotherapy, he gets a job at our largest russian bank, a pretty good position , and his managers and personnel are absolutely loyal to the fact that he misses, he takes some kind of vacation , a few days, to undergo chemotherapy, and moreover, that’s how i understand , he is such, you know, a role model, or something, for those around him, you know, natalya, you said that

your remission has lasted for more than 20 years, these words have already given millions of people hope, and i... confidently those who clung to screens, yes, those who are glued to the screens, they are in the head, they put this notch, those who are now undergoing treatment, because i am in various chats about breast cancer, and there periodically there are searches for those who survived , but these same survivors, and where are those people who lived there for longer than 5 years, and these people just live, let’s talk about your story, the first days, the first week, i... at that time i went to the gym to work out, i that day i set a record, bench press, i pressed 150 kg, despite my fragile build, it was it’s hard, but i’m so happy that i’ve set some new mark of mine, i felt great in the shower in the gym, i felt

a certain ball under my armpit on the left, for some reason at that moment it was as if i was immediately hit with an electric current , well, that is, i immediately... realized that this was something wrong, that this shouldn’t be here, uh, right when i got home, um, i immediately made an appointment with a therapist, and went to get examined, um, k unfortunately, at that time i had not encountered doctors in everyday life, that is, i didn’t have anything more serious there, so i didn’t go to a regular hospital , but to a paid one, and there the therapist examined me, prescribed me... there were a bunch of tests, ultrasounds, all at once , somehow, it seems to me that it was clear to his face that something was wrong, because he looked at me, well, with pity, with some even , well, with some kind of, i was constantly told such words that everything will be fine, the main thing is don’t worry, now everything is being treated, and somehow i

initially began to understand that this is some kind of complicated story, not just inflammation, 28 february i have an ultrasound. they already said that yes, it is, but they immediately told you, yes, they told me that it is very likely cancer, and that it has spread beyond the breast, that’s actually the ball that i felt in the armpit, it’s a metastasis, what was the first reaction, it was shock, it was the opposite of mobilization, maybe i thought to myself that i would pay, if i had been told about this situation a little in advance and this is how you would react, i probably would have said that i, i would cry, no, nothing like that happened, i i was just very scared, well, inside myself, as it were, but at the same time, outwardly , i didn’t give any indication that something bad was happening, moreover, my husband and i didn’t tell my

parents, because we decided get to treatment, that is, when he has already prescribed treatment directly, then tell them, i think this is the right strategy, because this... period is actually the most psychologically difficult period, it seems to me, i don’t know how to confirm it or refute, from the moment of diagnosis before the start of treatment, yes, that’s how it was for me, for many of those with whom i know and i advise those people who have just learned about the diagnosis, i’m just going through this period a lot, with such acquaintances of mine with such clients, and... this period, it is the most fragile, because you seem to be unbalanced, you don’t understand, yes, what will happen, this is the unknown, this is the absence of some kind of plan, this is the absence of combat tactics. as if you 're not doing anything, yes, you're doing nothing

when i was diagnosed and i found out about it sitting at home, it wasn’t the doctor who told me, i saw this in my electronic chart, so i had to live until the next day to talk with the doctor, and i remember the night i lie and think, so i’m not doing anything, so you said, yes there is shock or mobilization, i had complete mobilization , i need to act, i need a plan, i guess i... calmed down, not when i started treatment, but when the doctor said the words to me, i grabbed her hands like that, my stella fedorovna and i say: tell me honestly, it can be treated, she says: "anya, it can be treated and it can be treated well." and i exhaled. what will be the orders? we're starting. lumieux thought himself omnipotent. follow him, hello, at the table. major bessonov from the moscow criminal investigation department is worried, are you trading in your homeland? i’m not selling anything, sir,

you’re trading, misha, you’re trading, tell the truth, sergei bezrukov in the serial film by valery todorovsky, bison, the business of a fashion model, tomorrow after the program time. this is a psychic podcast, my name is natalya loseveva and today we are talking about cancer, another very important point that distinguishes in my opinion, psychology, the management of cancer patients, modern and what happened 20-30 years ago, you may even be girls, you don’t know this, before in most cases the patient was not told that he had... cancer, that’s right, yes, it would be easier for you, anna, if you didn’t know your diagnosis, would you be treated there for

some kind of inflammation, no, i want to know everything about myself, i trust the doctor, there is a professional who takes the reins, and i believe that i work with my illness on equal terms with the doctor, that is, with the attitude of a doctor, a patient, diseases, that’s how it is, that’s how the three of us are sitting, that’s roughly how it is. this team and well, this random passer-by came in to somehow change your life , because life does change, and you spend some time there with her, then say bye, with my tumor, for example, i even gave the name, my friend came up with it, yes, yes, yes, zina, zina, go away, i don’t want to offend anyone called zinaida, it’s a rather rare name, but for some reason we gave it that name, i wonder how it is for you was? that is, you somehow, yes, i just remembered that there really is such a technique when - you reify

this, well, any disease, in fact, not necessarily a tumor, so you somehow try to deal with it there is either an agreement or a strict order , it seems to me that my brain turned on some kind of mode to save the main organ , which is here in the black box of my mind, yes, and - at the moment of diagnosis, that was the worst thing, i i’ll also say, precisely because of the uncertainty that existed, and these were holidays, it was march 8th, you know, all the girls go, congratulate each other on the holiday, give each other flowers, they all exchange some kind of congratulations, and yulia is sitting with the phone, like that in the kitchen, and they just seem to send me everything too congratulations, and i answer, but it seems so nightmarishly terrible to me, because i answer insincerely. because my, my head is occupied with something else at the moment, and my brain, it pulled off such a thing, it turned off

this area of ​​the disease, that is , i can say that i can’t do it at all right now i can even remember what i felt in this area of ​​the chest, as if i didn’t have it , that is, there is a head and what is a little below the chest, everything else, it is as it is, but we are doing this, there is a doctor doing this, tests , as it were, i’m trying not to think about it for now. because in the very first days my mistake was that i lay there and thought how it was growing in me, while i did nothing, they didn’t give me any medicine, nothing was clear, what it was, what type of tumor it was, nothing was clear, and it is growing and it is unclear at what speed, then there i am inactive, roughly speaking, it captures me, these aliens capture me, and i can’t do anything, and then i calmed down and decided that well, let’s live there, for now... the girls find our correspondence with yulia me through different social networks and julia wrote me a very touching

message that anya, you are the only person i can trust. of course, such responsibility falls when you read such messages, and i remember your wording that it seems to me that i will not live until the morning, yes almost every second message contains this wording, the girls seem to be captivated, well, for example, i am an example of a person who discovered some kind of pea in january, and treatment began only in july, but nothing so terrible happened to me during this period, i'm calm that it's actually not very good. tactics, yes, therefore, this, this is not a good tactic in terms of the fact that i did not have an understanding of how to act, that is, well, i went there for an ultrasound, it seemed like there was nothing wrong with me there was, i had a certain period of searching for doctors, yes, who were wary, who referred me, but don’t , as they say, the sleep of the mind draws monsters, you won’t die overnight, yes, here i

would also like to agree and emphasize that you don’t have to think that you’re... dying right now, that is, and you think that right now another 20 minutes, then he’ll take over, i don’t know, the heart, it will stop and you’ll die, this is not so, you just need to gather your courage, start acting with your thoughts, that’s what’s important emphasize, not to be inactive , but to act, but with my head on, as if calmly, with my mind, as soon as it was confirmed to me by biopsy that it was cancer, and accordingly. a lymph node is a metastasis of cancer, i started, mm, looking for a new doctor, because in the place where i had a biopsy, the doctor , unfortunately, was not very gentle with me, let’s say, and i was in a limited psychological state, and he - somehow rudely told me the phrase that don’t whine, otherwise i won’t treat you, and somehow i immediately

realized that we weren’t on the same path, and - after after i realized... that i was not on the same path with this doctor, i wrote to alna, because she had already walked this path, and it was important for me to get her advice, as if about the doctor and further tactics, so i now i want to emphasize this point for our viewers, that today’s structure, so to speak, of the information society, is very helpful, you can find those people who are like this, those people who are in remission or those who are undergoing treatment right now , maybe just two steps there has already moved forward, this is very important, because indeed, very often, especially in the first stage of the disease, the patient really wants to be only in that circle where, as they say

, nothing needs to be explained, because of course in the first stage, when... a person learns about his cancer diagnosis, when this shock occurs, it is still always a shock , someone cries, yes, someone, like you, goes into thoughts that i will not live until the morning, someone runs, like me in spent my time running through the autumn city, i just really ran, very in different ways, the shock still happens, and you are protected by this shock, as if you are protecting yourself with a glass cube, behind which all other life remains, this... seems to be a very common scenario in the first stage, when you find out, you separate yourself from the whole world, then it appears, the world also separates, and as the world separates, for example, you may not be invited to your birthday, i specifically dealt with this from those same prejudices, yes, yes, what we touched on at the beginning conversations are different, friends, this is evidence-based medicine about this

proclaimed repeatedly, what you will pull. pay attention to your illnesses, but you know, it turned out so funny, during treatment i helped not only those people psychologically , i motivated them, yes, as i was told, you are a motivator, you are the kind of person who walks ahead with a flashlight, healthy people called me with their own somehow insoluble , as it seemed to them, situations, and i was about green in color, i couldn’t take my head off the pillow, because the side effects from chemotherapy had already accumulated, and i gave them advice, they they say: “anh, this.” this is a very strange story, that is, we are now calling a person who, well, it’s as if somewhere out there has already walked this path and we almost said goodbye to you there, and you show us life, you’re talking about life, this it’s very important, during treatment, to be a person about life, and like some women wrote to me, i’m going to the dacha, i’m going to wear scarves, what should i answer to people, why am i wearing

a scarf, i say, tell me, i’m being treated. oh, is it so easy to explain anything? yes, two words, i’m being treated, there’s nothing like that. and i don't know i am so smart because i myself am a positive person. or is it because the first doctor after the oncologist i had was a psychologist, i immediately wrote to the psychologist, because i needed a person who would speed up my path, and correctly accepting the diagnosis, it is very important to quickly reach the stage of accepting the diagnosis, and there are girls those who don’t accept the diagnosis, and it’s most difficult for them, even after going into remission they continue to live with it, but what was it like for you, did you have something like this? feeling that your familiar surroundings are a little bit when they found out about your diagnosis, is a little fenced off from you, and i can even call it, well, firstly, everyone was in shock, because somehow it turned out that

a large circle of my friends did not have anyone who suffered from an onological disease, so for them, you know, when you watch something on tv and it happens somewhere far away, and then it happens to your friend, right now and... yes, that is, i am generally a person, who is the most far from this diagnosis, and moreover, i kind of care about my health, that is, he likes to talk like you brought it to this point, how you started it, i’m a person who regularly went through check-ups in hospitals, that is , this couldn’t happen to me, even the doctors say, unfortunately, when you come, yes, i immediately understood what needs to be accepted. you need to help yourself in this situation, and how did you help yourself, actually, when i found out about the diagnosis, i stopped sleeping normally, well, that is, i just had, i just couldn’t sleep, because i had this

storyboard in my head my thoughts are crazy, that i’m dying, what to do, how was this your type of stress and shock, and you helped yourself by writing to anna, and when you found yourself a psychologist and went to a psychologist, turned to a psychiatrist for... medical support, so that i could be prescribed antidepressants that would help me to be in a calm, normal state , because this is important to emphasize, it is very important for treatment, not to experience unnecessary stress during it, well, which is absolutely connected by neurophysiologists and neurophysiologists who deal with the problem of communication, stress and cancer, about they say that it is necessary to relieve stress, i am very grateful to the psychologist and psychiatrist, because in the shortest possible time after the appointment of therapy , my sleep was restored, my condition stabilized, and i completed the treatment without

delays, exactly on time, without any emotional leaps that i absolutely did not need at that moment, ladies and gentlemen, meet one of the most powerful knockout fighters of the first heavy weight, to fight with a master who knows no defeat... in the professional ring, it will be tough, alexey papin vs. seslan azbarov, betting league, professional boxing evening, live broadcast, saturday on the first. mancacher whiskey, a product of the stellar group, girls, let's talk about life. after cancer, practically, i don’t know, with one hundred percent density, people who go into remission , after cancer, they

go through some kind of colossal internal reboot, and they come out with completely different radars and sensitivity to the high of life, then you begin to receive unspeakable, enormous joy from those things which for you were absolutely such, you know, an ordinary background, you couldn’t rejoice, yes, you didn’t know how to get high, you understand the thrill of life when you left, closing the doors behind you, of the oncology center or, as in my case, it was the radiology department, that’s i remember how i walk along this path from radiology in the winter, a snowman with lard and breast is jumping there, and it was such happiness, just from the fact that you see this snow, snow, life goes on, how it will be then is unknown, but you live here and now, in general, there is nothing more for you it doesn’t bug, i even made

a video of me throwing out the hundredth pair of shoe covers there, i didn’t even have a mobile phone like that at the time, i specially filmed it and then posted it on social networks that the stage was completed, everything was rebooted, but what’s interesting is that in general i’m such a fairly optimistic person in life and... sometimes they even reproached me for being happy where there seems to be nothing to be happy about. in principle , i have such a style in life that any negative needs to be turned into plus i can't even. today we can say that cancer, the cancer diagnosis was the most difficult test in my life, i can’t say enough about it, it was a difficult adventure , a difficult marathon that i needed, in general, it’s not easy when you’ve finished treatment, because the doctors are coddling you here, you can write at any time, but here you are like a bird flying out of the nest, and i remember these words of the doctor that you don’t need us anymore, come back in so much time, well, of course, there is a series

of necessary examinations, but here’s to these doctors, so that we don’t see you, there are implants, you’ll come and change after some time, and you’re like, that’s it, you’re alone, like in this cube , like that, and that’s it, now i’m responsible myself, and you know, it’s exciting, you’re standing before an abyss, a huge new life, as you know, they tell me, yes, yes, yes, yes, i’m an adult again and as they call us, yes , they are guarded, they open up in front of you and which maybe you didn’t give in to, they frighten you a little, here you have to choose, because i began to directly change my life, change jobs, change some areas, try new things that my family couldn’t keep up with me, sometimes, it’s just that now we know that there is no draft, and you live your life purely,

this is very important to say. the fact that i am currently on prophylaxis, that is, i have completed the operation stage, now i am undergoing prophylaxis in the form of a targeted drug, i will be receiving it until may next year, but when i left the surgery where i had the operation, they told me , we congratulate you, you no longer have cancer, and i somehow start from this, that there is no more cancer in me, and now i want to agree with anna that i have become... very selective, this is who i communicate with, what i watch, what i do, because i understand that i should get the most out of it, because this is life, now it’s happening, no one will wait until i get there somehow or i’ll decide something, it’s happening here now, so you need to live here and now, and this seems to me very important, because i told my many friends during the diagnosis, i crowded on them so closely so that they would go and check . because here i am saying,

please do me a favor, go and get checked, i will know that i was not in vain, as i’m going through this, if i help someone, i’ll be just happy, and they answered me something like, okay, i’ll go next week, or in a month i’ll go, or in 2 months i’ll go, i understand that they’re like this they don’t yet understand this, that life is this moment, it is yes, it was and it may not exist, because this one is not there. the notorious danger that constantly spurs you on, i want to talk to you about something else on a rather ambiguous topic, this is what the status of a cancer patient should be, well, a person who or there is a term in the english language, we don’t have it, unfortunately a similar term has not taken root, cancer survivor , a cancer survivor, in many western traditions, a person who has gone through cancer, he is in his own eyes... in the eyes

of his environment, in society, such a hero , yes, this is such a special person, that is, you walk around with a medal on your chest, this is one concept , there is another concept that says that you shouldn’t get hung up on, yes, everything happened, passed, let go, don’t ask, don’t remember what ’s right , in your opinion, it seems to me there is no correct one here, because, well, i’ve been on this topic for 3 years, and i ’ve been on this topic for more than 3 years, and i don’t let go of this topic, because it’s wildly interesting to me, in principle, i was interested in medicine, and i’m interested in how it ’s developing now , i haven’t left any of the chats, and my area of ​​interest, in fact, one of the layers of life is focused on how medicine is developing, how science is developing, are there any new options for patients, so yulia mentioned a psychologist and i, yes, maybe people will now say, well, that’s it expensive, and you know that there are funds that provide these for free... there are volunteer psychologists, who

are volunteer psychologists, and very professional ones, so i think that this is probably a big word mission, but this is a big part of my life, which i don’t want to give up, i don’t want a biased attitude towards myself, i don’t want to be pitied, in principle, well, in my work i do everything on an equal basis with everyone else, but i have, and let’s say, this is a pink ribbon badge , which signals that you can... approach ask me if you have a problem, it seems to me that this is a very dangerous concept , which has passed and passed, passed and passed, yeah, not because you need to live with an illness, because there is no illness, if necessary, if the doctor said, that you are in remission, live and enjoy the fact that you are in remission, because if you constantly think about the disease, this is not life, it is you again, you are still sick, because in your head you are sick, but it is very important to help others, that’s why i

think that forgetting and moving on there - this is not very good, i can say that i get great pleasure if i help someone, even if...' i listen to 20 minutes of hysterics of a woman who writes that everything, everything is lost, i i spend 20 minutes telling her that i’m here, i’m with you, i can’t hug you, but i’m just like you, i ’m 33, that is, often women are a little older, they already then decide that life is over, but i 33, i haven’t had much of a life yet, yes, but i’m here with you, i’m mentally holding you by the hand, i want to tell you, that everything will be fine, that is. not just words, because you always need to believe in a good outcome, and it seems to me that because anya answered me, i felt, i had a feeling of security, you know, that there was someone with me , who understands me, in fact, actions help more, for example, and my friend and i had a tradition

before chemotherapy, we went to some fancy restaurant to have breakfast and i waited for the day of chemotherapy, not as the day when i would feel sick in the evening, but like the day when yes. we are having a great time with a friend, i stop by for my healing cocktail, and then i just continue to congratulate , this is a very correct phrase, i do not continue to be treated, but continue to recover, yes, among the girls we have such a phrase that we are an oncology party, we are cancer recoverers, this is what we call ourselves, no, unfortunately, today there is some russian phrase, but there is a survivor, there is a convalescent cancer patient. yes, it’s worth emphasizing here that i was very lucky with my close circle with my friends, the fact that these are people who sometimes awkwardly said these phrases about holding on, but i forgave them, because i knew that they had never encountered this, they don’t know,

and i want to tell everyone, and those recovering from cancer, that if they tell you such phrases, don’t be offended, you keep it in your head that people almost never know how to communicate with you, they don’t want to. offend, they want to somehow fence you off, to protect you, so that you, just say that i’m nearby, all my friends, and my beloved husband, were nearby and thanks to them i think that i’m now in such a fundamentally positive state of mind, this is colossal support , and what, friends, we ’re talking about cancer today in such an unexpected, positive way, and then... it’s like you rightly said, anya, this is a marathon, a marathon of adventures of self-discovery, adventures, so don’t be afraid, live life as if everything is just beginning, in some ways it really is, we talked

today about the fear of cancer, of cancer diagnosis, of people who are diagnosed with cancer , to our conversation of course timed to coincide with the month when we talk about breast cancer, but not only about breast cancer , of course we are talking about the test that befalls a huge number of families and people, thank god, today it can be passed successfully, healthy, preserving and health and good psyche. psych podcast. minor discussions about loneliness, hope and despair, unhappy love and experiences that will resonate in the soul of every

person. one can view these songs as an expression of the russian sad soul. hello, today we have gathered our thoughts about russian rock as a cultural phenomenon about the spiritual search of russian musicians. hello, dear friends, vyacheslav. i am very glad to see you, what i read is from a modern article dedicated to russian rock. yes. as a warm-up question, i would like to ask you how ready you are to agree with this. i would say my aspirations. now we still talk about happy love more than about unhappy love, but you are talking about now, in principle, if we, can we say, this is how

the author of this article believes that... big a segment of a rock composition is an expression of the russian sad soul, nikolaevich, well, in some ways he is right, of course, because , because if we say that, so to speak, dig deeper and say that sadness is for god, that is, about god , then this is probably so, well, this is the eternal state of the russian person, that’s because he never, never imagines himself in some kind of ideal, so he... is always sad that he has not achieved something , what i could achieve, at least by looking at the icons of the saints, yes, well then there is this sadness not about the imperfection of the world, but in your inner state, not about the perfection of the world, also probably in some way, of course, because this is also sadness from a person, you need to know that when you were paradise, everything was there, even the animals were talking there, and here , twice, this is the story, and what is this transition like? sadness to joy that you just talked about, well, i would say that it

happens with difficulty, because what alexey is talking about is about those losses that occurred after adam, the first person, left paradise, and came to this world, so to speak, to nourish it with his own efforts , well, of course, with god's help, but man has lost a lot, including things connected with nature, with nature, and, if there are in paradise, his animals they knew each other perfectly, they understood each other, moreover, adam was, so to speak, their patron of the earth, yes, he named names, yes, he gave them names, then as soon as he left the gate, and as soon as archangel michael closed the gate with his sword , the animals stopped recognizing adam and they directly told him, you lost the image of god, we didn’t recognize you. they started growling at him, and they are still growling, listen, i called

rock musicians, theologians and friends came, but this, i still want to torment you a little, you know, to ask you, maybe, to step back a little bit , maybe even from current internal experiences, although we will definitely talk about them, but i would still like to talk to you, you know, how in science there is such a method of included analysis, yes, when, because the scientist is usually already detached, yes, included analysis is when the person himself he is engaged in some process and he describes it. yes, you know, with the courage of an amateur i want to ask you this question, if i understand correctly, russian rock has two sources, this is english-language music, and this is russian literature and, more broadly, russian culture, that’s how far one can agree with this formulation of the question, to what extent , well, if i may say so, russian rock is comfortable with these two parents, well, regarding the english language, alexey, i think it’s very cool. maybe he can say it better, including in english, richer experience, yes,

but still, a russian has a hand, this is not, not a russian phenomenon, uh, you know, of course , the phenomenon itself is not russian, but let’s say, i was lucky enough to be friends with such a person as frank zapa, a brilliant musician, absolutely, well, he, uh, had a tremendous love for russian music, so sorovinskoe was there for him. something there, yes, and he constantly reminded us of this , this is the second half of the 16th century, the composers of those who were called the mighty hummock, especially mussorsky, who, in fact, probably inspired strovensky the most, to in fact, even while in the united states, i suddenly found out that the most played composer in the world is chikovsky, i didn’t know before, i was so surprised, so i... a friend of mine asked who was in second place, she was a classicist i was studying, she says, in second place is storinsky, in third

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