[000:00:00;00] and the actors are all together , so the fact that you make musicals with children reveals their abilities to the maximum, because in a musical you need to be able to do everything, and dance, act and sing, in general, anita, i actually, when we we were talking to you, not so long ago, i was surprised to discover that in addition to the fact that you are a wonderful singer, whom everyone knows very well, a people’s artist, and so on, you are also a public figure and a person who is involved in education, not in the sense of teaching... to sing , in the sense that it really teaches, that’s all, what this genre in general, creative, generally includes, is surprising, but it turns out that with each project you have added responsibility, now you said 326, 328 - 328 and artists performed on stage, by the way, we registered records in the record book for each it turns out that you now bear responsibility, generally speaking, well,

creatively, of course creatively. mentoring, mentoring, yes, how to make sure that these 328 names are not lost in the end, that’s what’s next, well, first of all, it’s necessary, of course, of course constantly come up with new projects, we need to promote them, move them and keep up with the times, for example, we are now talking about mentoring, now this is one of the most important interesting topics, before we were just involved in mentoring, we came up with such interesting content, yes, when teachers, educators, together with children, perform on the same stage and share experience with each other, this is where we are now, but now we have moved on, we are now working on a very interesting project, an inclusive creative laboratory, in which a group of children with disabilities will be created, there will also be children from our music school and teachers , so everyone together in one space will do everything that is necessary for the stage, speech production, vocals, a musical

instrument, and so on and so on and so on further, and in order to get the result and see how this experiment goes for us, we decided to create a musical on the same stage together with teachers, our children from our music school, this group of children with disabilities, for in order to show that for creativity , boundaries have no limits at all, we decided to stage this musical on a thousandth floor, in a large beautiful hall, in large forms, that is. nothing can be done, i direct my big shows myself, i already have such gigantism, it is present in some ways, but for children it is an incredibly interesting experience, plus, despite the fact that we are also doing this musical, and we decided now shoot, we are just on the verge of everything we have to do, we decided to shoot a film in parallel, a film about overcoming how these kids come to us and start studying with everyone together, and what will be

the result? and how they will feel in the future, the most interesting thing, in general , is that we have our own music school, and , accordingly, some opportunities for education, training, but we realized that children grow up, so we bring them to what -at a certain moment, and then, they say, where should we go next, and we spent 2 years at a technical university, growing up under the department of media communications, in order to finally separate into our own this year department, many thanks to our. which allowed us to try to realize ourselves at a technical university. in fact, a very interesting topic is facing us and physicists have finally merged, so to speak, for now it seems to me that technicians do not understand exactly, but it is necessary, it is necessary, but at the same time, for example, they have it technologies that they teach their students, and this should not bypass us at all, since today all

the creative industries and the entire stake that occurs within the merger, even the flow of one from the other, yes, must definitely go directly through new it technologies, this is how new authored content is born, very interesting, which will help all our students in the future, plus acquire a profession, learn to make money, understand that today they can become players in the market, and manage their own lives, your destiny, you have touched on such an important topic now, because you are creative. it’s like a fantasy, an idea, and then, yes, we need people who transform and materialize it, then there are technical personnel, very often creators do not have a connection with these technical personnel who can implement, and the fact that such faculties and departments are growing on the basis of technical ones, i recently was at the plekhan academy and the faculty of creative industries was also opened there, because there is creative economy,

with everything. ideas and creativity into business, into results, into results that bring new means, new movements, and considerable means, and considerable ones, into the economy. well , south korea, which anita and i are in in general, we appreciate it for this, some of the samples are generally positive, yes, that’s exactly it, we talked with one science fiction writer, he said that he has one universe, which he came up with, by the way, in lukyanenko’s draft, in which there is no oil and gas, that’s what people actually have to do, this happened in south korea, and the creative economy took off there, well, that is, people needed something, they realized that in fact money... it’s in creative people , and there everything that is connected with creativity is encouraged, in principle, this gives results, in fact, so i started talking about the fact that i myself am the director of my shows, these shows, thank god in the country, are the best, we

received a lot of awards, for them not from the point of view exactly what happened on stage directly, precisely for new technical achievements on stage, that is, we are always coming up with some kind of innovation, and they are born, for example, new ideas of a technical nature from fantasy, creative imagination, that is, you want, for example, to immerse your viewer at a certain environment, and you start creating, you come to a person who has the necessary tool, skill, technique and tell him what you want, he will be able to speak it to you, but there is no such thing in the world, why do you even need this, and then in the process it turns out that we literally just passed a new program, and there we made a new technological discovery, which... it’s just that no one had thought of doing it before and we are very happy and excited, because that’s when an idea, some kind of

creative, interesting, begins to flow, then technical the forces are getting stronger, but we, relying on their capabilities, are starting to come up with much more, this is what i want to teach students, for example, from our department, so that they look more broadly, not only as the ability to control their vocals, for example, or acting , or their body , yes, in choreographic art, but so that they look at it much more broadly, that they can become creators of their own content, unlike anyone else, and maybe even patent new technologies, and i would continue my world, because in the end in the end, by creating our content, fantasy, positive, we saturate everything in this way, with this creativity and immerse a large audience in it, which thereby begins to live with us, this is a big role, very selfless, you’re just a little out of the sky , let’s not, come on, i just caught myself thinking when i watched black january, when i cried there for the fifth time, in general, i thought, well, this is the strongest, the strongest emotions i’m experiencing now, but i

’m here in the hall , in the new playpen in this case and i have such happiness there maybe, yes, i see, i came, i look, i feel these emotions, but we actually have a huge country, when it all comes to... this is what you are doing, do you see these points yourself or not? the first thing is, of course, you can broadcast any cultural product, this is also a separate form of art, how to convey to those who are not in the hall all these emotions that are here now, and there may even be a little more colors, because you can show a large the plan of the main character with a tear rolling down her cheek is also affects those who watch, the second segment, well, also probably important, what anita is talking about is the involvement... of people, because you can’t just force people to grow by example, they must be involved in the processes, within the process, there they are already learning, developing and so on, something that is not very much now and something that is now a little lacking, it seems to me that

it makes sense to pay attention to this, this is proper management, i don’t like the word manager, because a manager is a must, some kind of profit, definitely, nothing wrong with that no, you can and should earn money, but still management is broader, it is ... sometimes an absolutely selfless sacrifice of everything you have, health and strength, time, in general, with management in the field culture is not very good yet - everything is correct, especially in the regions, if moscow, represented by the government , has accepted responsibility, it generates as much as possible through its various departments, and the processes, and we see all this, then in the regions, of course, the agenda is different, i really want those amazing specialists who arise thanks to projects so that they are useful locally and feel there that their potential will be revealed, this is the most important thing, that is, to provide the basis for everything to be implemented, by the way, if we are talking about this now, yes, a good story

, now we will be celebrating next year, or rather this year the tenth anniversary, of our festival specifically in russia, and we thought, we usually hold it in different cities, usually it’s about 30 cities in russia, where we go, we look at teams of children, respectively, finals, this year we are for we have discovered a unique opportunity for ourselves, there are, yes, again a foreign word, sorry, clusters. are called, if i remember correctly, russia is my history, they are open in twenty cities, our vast, amazing space with magnificent concert venues, with amazing technical equipment, that is , we have now decided to hold our tenth qualifying rounds there, why, we we go out, well, of course, the children perform, the children fight for the title of first, best, but at the same time they are doing... such

their ethnographic tourism, they study, firstly, the region in which they are located, plus, they study new technological possibilities, that is , can you imagine, our kids come, go onto the floor, for example, with a video screen space, put their foot down, and from there butterflies fly out, or some flowers , yes, that is, it all starts to work completely differently, they find themselves in some interesting fairy tale, the world they understand that there is actually a lot of this world, you just need to be able to accurately place the rap points to get there there then yes, it seems to me that this is a wonderful plus , it’s also in education, so i don’t like just loud words about patriotism, that is, when everything is done in an exaggerated manner or they say, there you go, write a patriotic song, it doesn’t work with me, for me patriotism is a little different, it’s calmer, it’s warmer, it’s more familiar, the older brother who studies there at

our university takes his little sister, who studies at our music school, by the hand, they go out on stage together, they sing together to their parents who are sitting in the hall, and those behind they are sick, this is the first, most important thing in the word patriotism, connection first of all, love, such genuine, real love for your family, loved ones, for your land, for your home, for the stage on which you stand, in kindergarten, in which you go to, the school you... study in, yes, this is where it all starts, and when our kids, we are just now infected with this, just the project, when they will come to these regions and see how wonderful it really is our country has such wonderful places, not only in the center in moscow or in st. petersburg , i think that they have pride in their country, like it or not, it will appear by itself, grow, because they are really involved in it; they are not in the center, they are somewhere there.

they are in their own region, in their own land, that is, this is the story i wanted to share, i discovered you for myself today, well, for me you, since we never knew each other, somehow never encountered, but then , what are you saying, this is such a missionary story in general, what you are doing, and by the way, i parry with the novel about this, that means, regarding how it will go big, that is, in fact, if it is made a trend and if...' that is, from the trend to earn money in any way and still create a creative economy based on great meanings, this is absolutely something else and it should be exciting, because it’s really exciting, because it can’t help but capture, because what you’re doing, dmitry, you just seem to be something pro-state, in fact, you say, patriotism , this is through the same one the impact of content is through joining those heroes whom you bring out and involve in these processes. the rest follow them. on air from

the creative industry, a podcast hosted by elena kiper, myself, and roman karmanov. and our guests are dmitry bigbaev and lioni tsoi. but you know what the question is, people are looking at us now and saying, well, smart , beautiful people, in general, seemingly talented , are sitting, in general, about beautiful, sublime things and even in general, usefully, apparently talking. and we, in general, look at all this and think, but how can we get involved there? in general, how do we go to this holiday of creativity and everything in general, how to get there, how to get there, this is the most important thing, in fact, here we, for example, do not wait with our team for them to come to us, we go ourselves, that is, we are already imprisoned several years ago they began to collect big data on all creative groups, teachers, interesting people, and so on, throughout our whole russia, today, i can boast a little, even the ministry of culture does not have such data as

we have. we certainly tried very hard, always, when our festivals or competitions begin to be held, we make sure to notify everyone, we personally sit down, cool off and go, so wait, you have a database of whom , what kind of people are these, these are all cultural centers, all theaters where ours is involved the audience, this is childhood, youth, everything, everything, everyone on the territory of russia, who wants, they always take part with great pleasure when you charge this machine of yours, fantastic, these are suppliers of talented personnel, because this is the first filter through which yes it's like we'll put it on our own we will be honest in order to find... a truly talented person, not just a talented person, but a ready, efficient, willing one to serve the stage, let’s assume, yes, we have to try, we have to dig through very, very many thousands of people, it’s true, sometimes it happens that a person is incredibly talented, he comes out and we see that in front of us is really talent, he is not

afraid of the stage, he behaves amazingly, he recites amazingly, he sings amazingly at his age, he just holds everyone like that members of the jury, and excuse me, we are just delighted, but it turns out that since this is given to him by nature, he doesn’t even want to push himself even a little bit and learn something more than what he has today, and we also encounter this when we talk with our parents, the parents say , yes, we would love to, but he doesn’t want to, things like this happen, so this is the most painstaking work, today, i am very grateful to everyone who took part in the russian necklace, because these are very talented, good children, and i i think that out of them we can find, well, at least one or two three , who will really want to move on , but the stage is not an easy job, it’s very hard, it’s very difficult, it will be wonderful, but we don’t

we forget about those who are nearby, because there are children who really really want, but not everyone, to be great artists, well, that’s right, i’m looking at you, i think you shouldn’t have... you should be an artist, but if you wouldn't have been an artist before, you probably wouldn't have known how it all works from the inside, now there is no need to explain how to properly hang wires behind the stage, i know everything perfectly well, you understand, but we just came up with a story for these kids, because again, you can come to our departments to study and work inside of our whole big beautiful system, you can master management, you can master pr, you can master whatever you want, but the work... is nearby, because not everyone is ready to go on stage, not everyone has such a gift, the most important thing is that in general - then speaking, there the fact that such a specialty has appeared at a technical university means that the guys there will have both hemispheres working, as you know , yes, because one is responsible for creativity, the other is responsible for technical things, that’s how

a harmonious nation arises, if both both are generally and harmoniously present, well, here’s a really very important question about those who, yes, there are geniuses... there are super-talented ones, but in general there are many more of us, those who love to sing, as one of my friends says, you sing well loudly , so those who like to sing loudly, they are all over are actually in the country, to our rector rukhovich, when he made me an offer, well, that is, not to get married, to go to the music school at his university, i tell him, listen, why do you need us there, you have only technicians there, there i don’t know, you are involved in agriculture, some kind of oil industry... i must tell you honestly, not all of us have excellent students, we have c and d students, but they all sing and dance well, someone must defend the honor of the university, how they love solos 0, actually

they say this project, listen, that is, they they made our song and the musical their unspoken anthem, in fact, well, mes are harsh people, you know, here they are, in fact, there is such a stable expression, it helps to build and live, that’s how it is, and it doesn’t matter whether you sing this song or just where this song originated -there is something all around you in your life, but the song and i, if we wake up and move on in life , everything will really be different, the main thing is that the songs are good, and here it seems to me that we have a lot of people who really sing very well, here are the artists not very many, just try to find them, and these are two different talents, to be a wonderful artist and to build a career for yourself. because to build a career for yourself, the tesovs, yes, they don’t always have a voice, they don’t always have one, but there is something more that will later make you remember for centuries, this, it seems to me, is the best confirmation that it was not in vain that we worked , this is the participation of our children, in the sense of the participants, they also gathered them in different cities, to find these children who not only sing well, but who

have something more that they cannot say sharing your inner world with this is very difficult and it’s really a lot of work and a lot of work. however, there is still a need to improve this genre, of course, because well, there is still, well, the need to improve this genre, i have been to other countries several times, watched musicals, the lion king, which has been developed over decades, when the director stages... absolutely, well, not like that , as in the theater, yes , not like a theater director who makes performances, but when it is

synchronized, when it has a school rhythmic, yes, such questions arise here, very often, i don’t want to say anything, because i myself am faced with the production of musicals, i am looking for directors so that they match the genre as much as possible, but since we do not have such a school of musicals, there is no the industry itself, as you correctly noted, just needs a little... a little more time, and of course, any industry means money too, that is, any scientific breakthrough, before that there is a huge amount of work and money that this scientific breakthrough provides, i i think we have everything now is going quite right, and as far as talent is concerned, russia is really, well, capable of inventing, inventing, creating , it is important that the industry is properly organized, so that these talented people here feel that they are needed and... have the opportunity to realize themselves, yes, they should be works of art filled with technological discoveries and other things, but

at the same time the social mission of art, it cannot be turned off, we should not put everything on the rails of commerce, so that it would be wow because of the big money, every person should have the right to access to the best works of art, the best, regardless of how much he receives, not everyone has the opportunity to buy a ticket to go and see something in new york there, yes, and attend some premiere, even thoughts like this, the map was invented, yes, you know, here we need a balance, and we, it seems to me, are doing everything right, well, that’s what you think, now is the window of opportunity, because an able-bodied person, as you say, he can pass if , if you want someone to support you all the time, he led you by the hand, picked you up and dragged you along, and if you motivated him, then you did it yourself. there is a window, that is, to get to you, to get to dmitry, to get to the roma

, they can, they can, if they really want to, but there is - this is such social growth, and yes, you don’t need to go through here, in fact, it’s really like that just one click, if a person is fiery, passionate, yes, he wants this, he has talent for this and also the ability to work, he will get here, you just need to look, look for where to find, we must give opportunities, well, how should we say, that’s all here we have seen a lot of things and observed different stages of our media market and show business and not always the most worthy rose to the top for various reasons, but if we now organize the right opportunities for talented people in any, in any incarnation of the creative industries, from an artist to designer, inventor, inventor, whatever, then something will change if we ... honestly give people opportunities and faith that in the future they will be realized, everything

will be fine for them, then that’s it, tell me, where is the entrance where is the door to enter, there are social networks, for example, i always answer in private and everywhere, that is, please write, i will quickly redirect you to where you need to go, that’s absolutely true, no questions, if you want, come to the university to study, now , too, departments of creative industries are opening all over the country, that is, the main thing is to choose the university, those teachers with whom you would like to study, and even that direction. as a person who is involved in just such projects, i can say that a person is creative if he really wants this, if he really wants it, he will now easily find himself a project in which he can get involved and take part at the federal level, at the local level. for this there really are all the necessary elevators, the so-called, yes, there is the internet, there are social networks, so

what to look for, now not only children are watching, yes, well, their parents, grandparents , grandparents - this is a big engine for many, yes, that’s why you need it, you just need to want it, a lot of elevators have been created, dear friends, watch the creative podcast industry, find out about elevators, yes, roman garmanov will tell you about it, elena kiper , we had wonderful guests today, dmitry bigbaev and anita tsoi, in general, look for anita separately, you will also find with dima, and you will understand where that same door, and write, watch the creative industry podcast, goodbye. hello, dear friends, on the air of the first

channel podcast of the melody of my life. today our guest is the people's artist of russia. a great musician and my great friend and storyteller igor butman. igor, well, in fact, melodies are what makes our life magical, and through them, when we need to remember something, we remember everything down to the smallest detail, so i will only give modest leading questions, because i of course know that the beauty of a conversation with friend means talking about yourself, today only about you, my dear. so, the melody of childhood, well, that’s all that is connected, it is clear that it is not alone, but - just so that, thanks to this melody , you can rely on remembering in general how from the moment you remember yourself, roughly speaking, you you know, i was probably only, well, two years old, when i was constantly listening to the same song, he found this record, put it on

the old belarus player, and there was a reception there. they even hid this record from me, my grandmother hid it, but i still found it, i ’m some kind of italian, he also has the same last name, and rock grenade, the author remembered, but you know, there could have been one of the yugoslavs there , do you remember george marya there, i’m not sure if it’s his, i recently took this record to listen to again, but it seemed to me that sang... women's voices, but that's all, everything that's on the internet, everything is sung by rock grenade and others sang, and in my opinion, almost louis prima sang, louis primo is my favorite , you know, that is this song is quite so, well, old, but it was on our record from this, remember these were these ones he had, angelina and bonaseira, and by the way, this was also there, but it could also

have been, but in such a plastic one. or a very small minion like this, i heard this song on it and they tore me away from me this melody was torn off because it, well , the chorus itself is good. that is, this is long before, when philip kirkorov performs this song with pleasure long before them igor milipera probably from kirkorov, i remembered it no of course not, but first of all you have mother mariula, yes, that is,

in fact, the root of the word grandmother, beloved grandmother . marina borisovna, with whom we lived for a long time, she is wonderful, in general, she is the most important thing in our family in terms of pedigree, so of course marina, marina, i called her marina and grandmother, no, i had another song that dad, our neighbor, sang, it was also a song of youth, because boris potyonkin wrote this song, and then that’s all, it’s all us, we sang it, our neighbor appeared in our house, settled in our house, wonderful, we even played jazz together at your butman club , dad is a brilliant drummer, mikhail solomonovich, great, well, it’s nice that he played great and it’s nice that we can remember while our parents are alive, between

someone has been standing by us for eternity, that’s of course. grandiose, here’s young igor butman and rock roll, i’m wondering what the connection was, it appeared, i met another quarentist at a music school who studied with our teacher, gennalich kupesok and he was a fan of rock music, he had recordings on he had a comet, a tape recorder, even a fourth one, owl-shaped, and we became friends, i came to him, and well, we took a guitar at school, so... it started, but at first there was a repertoire of vocal instrumentals ensembles, songs, they showed me the chords there, i started practicing there, and you played the guitar , can you play the chords, nofano, i know for sure, with this ian we we he brought me to his house and played rock records and i was stunned, who was it?

it was di pipol, and the album made in japan was a live album, that’s all, i was amazed, but the thing is that i think i was captured not only... by the music itself and how they performed, but by the notes there were already jazz there, that is, with enormous pressure, so to speak, enormous drive, volume, in general, not not... simple melodies, but played with such, with such the feedback was heard from jon lord, from rich blackmore, from ian pace the drummer, pace just impressed me as a young drummer, a stunning impression, because he talks like that on the high-hate like yes, yes, yes, and this is ian pace - this is, in general, a derivative of the jazz drummer badirich, very close in imana and sound, well, richie blackmer - his guitar virtuosity also attracts attention, but the jazz, swing solo there is lazy, let’s say, yes there or he there plays jon lord, quotes duke linkton, there he is

i have, i have, if we say the purple, an association, i heard at the beginning like at a dance, i was visiting my grandmother in the city of per, at a dance - in my opinion it was the seventy-first year or not, a little later the seventy-four, seventy -four, because it was, it was a hit from the marching hut, but not the promoted one, but a song called space tracken, there ’s the intro, dad, dad, dad, these syncopations are like pace, and pace, of course, was rattled there, but what song is that for you, the purple, well, well, of course, smoke on the water, well this the greatest riff of the people's time in music stores in the world, usually, the guitar department says not to play the factory smokan and the ladder in neboppelin, because you have to take care of the sellers, like this, well, it’s clear that everyone

knows this, and we’ll play it for you, here it is, here it is, yes, yes, sometimes we, sometimes we even insert oleg nashuratov, and you know, i really liked it, i think it’s mr. kakona. was called something, when now it is already a familiar genre in the lounge style there, in such a salon, take some rock hit and it is beyond recognition, it was made, this the introduction to bosa nova, that is, it’s just dad, dad, the orchestra plays it all , well, we we’re just different, when we play the dedication to benny goodman, then i’m left alone and some melodies that come to mind, i put in , and one day the

smokon melody came back, because the concert had to end. igor has now listed the brilliant musicians from the quintet igor butman and edik, edik, hello to you and zhenya pobozhev. today we enjoy the melodies of my friend igor butn. first of all, i remembered a wonderful moment between you and me acquaintance. the fact is that i, in the moral code of the group: seryozha mazaev, kolya keldeev, igor played with them somewhere in moscow, and in fact we met like that, well , on a casual level, we shook

hands, we even we talked a little. years ago, i was flying to america, visiting new york, and returning with the artist boriya krasnov, i saw at the airport a man whose face seemed very familiar to me, i asked boriya krasnov, is this by any chance not igor budman, to which boris told me to make jokes or play a prank , this is... his brother, in this is confirmation of the words, when we first met, you had such long hair, a fenced tail, and here there was already a haircut that we had all become accustomed to, the classic igor butman, let’s call him that, talking on the plane, it’s a long flight from new -york to moscow, i tell igor butman’s brother, you know, i’m very pleased, i’m very pleased with you, you have a very talented brother, igor really has a brother, oleg is a wonderful drummer, younger brother, why, he says, yes , yes, and you and my brother are friends, i say, yes, of course, you have him a brilliant saxophonist, who is oleg, says, i say, what kind of oleg, igor budman, and what brother

budman, suddenly says, so i am, igor buzman, valera, what are you talking about, it was so funny, we remember it, then we held unforgettable, meetings at the olympics, that’s a little later, dear friends, let me announce. for you , nostalgia for the brightest, for love, may there always be love in your life, and my friend igor but. he will always play

the saxophony just for you, please. and today in the finale of our podcast. my life, my guest, my friend, igor butman, his saxophone, and its feelings , the melodies of my life at the first, igor mikhailovich, please, a little story, because we were talking about hockey and you know, when my friends, hockey players of all , come to my, to my, to my, my concerts generations, alexander yakushev and vyacheslav fyatisev, and as soon as i see them, and my guys, even the musicians, understand that if i played this melody, it means they’re in the audience for sure. and

it’s with this song that i associate all my appearances on the ice, when i played ska, i remember when i have photographs of me performing our ussr national team, which played such matches, training for the trip to the super series in canada in 1974 , i’m standing, very small, and next to me stands alexander volchkov, alexander yakushev, well , a little further there, listav, tretyak, mikhailov, petrov . kharlamov, this photo is,

therefore, this is my most joyful melody. this is the podcast melodies of my life on the first. i am valery syutkin, my friend, people's artist of russia igor mikhailovich butman was with you. thank you, mikhailovich. hello, the vremya program is on air, studio ekaterina andreeva, the main event of the day. russia's nuclear shield is a large-scale training under the leadership of the supreme commander-in-chief of missile launches from the ground from under