tu ne viendras pas ce soir tombee la neige et mon cœur s'habie de noir, c'est soy cartège, tout en l'arme blanche, l'oiseau sur la branche, alors la sortilège... tu ne viendras pas ce soir

, mais cris mon désespoir, mais tombe la neige, impassible ma neige, near salvadorov kharatyan, snow is falling, yes, yes, it is snow falling, well, it’s like that, let’s call it the melody of sadness, let it be the melody of sadness, he’s waiting for her, and she doesn’t come, but she doesn’t come, such a time, our friends from yugoslavia were very popular, do you remember socialist the whole camp, of course, karl goth is unconditional, the polish group was called guitar, chervona guitar , severinsky, when they ask me what is your favorite ensemble, it was, i say, i had two favorite ensembles, the beatles ensemble and the ensemble the countries of warsaw, a collective image, and the beatles are beyond competition, that’s clear, they have always remained for centuries, i’ll move a little bit along with you through history. according to the fate of dmitry

kharatyan, here we go, we go, and i’m looking forward to what came first, midshipman or green van, of course, green van, well, yes, yes, green van - 80, by the way, 40 years this year, we filmed 40 years ago, green van, where are you july and twentieth year, two songs by maxim sakovich danaevsky allowed, allowed me to perform in this two-part film, and this is where, dim, the van was filmed, it was filmed in the water, this is an odessa film studio, by the way, he even has the last entry in his work book not as an actor at the antaganka theater, but as a director at an odessa film studio, about this few people know, but it’s a fact, here it is quit his job at taganka, he was finishing his roles , but at the end of the summer he had to start working on the green van , the script was written by the actor, it was according to this script 3 years later, so we made this film, which now everyone knows, except for the wolf

wait a minute and then verticals, he is firmly in your life, because i know you are one of the few who, in my opinion, i don’t even touch laim semyonovich, because my trustworthy vulture, he absolutely honestly belongs to the swing of the sixties , it seems to me that many people sing vysotsky, but according to by and large, only those who have vysotsky in their hearts have the right to sing vysotsky, otherwise it’s immediately obvious that he’s all in everyone’s heart and soul, but of course, it’s pointless, not only to compete, but even to try to out-sing him, i sing him, i sing vysotsky exclusively because nikita vysotsky, his son, who has been keeping the memory of his father for many years, and he is the creator of this award, his own track, which is the first channel, that’s the only reason, honestly, i myself would never take a risk and even just, well, i really wouldn’t perform this publicly, for i just said to myself, i won’t do this, because even if you remind me, well, i’d better

ask you, i’ll just say sincerely, let’s remind ours, let’s remind, but just you help me, because this is such a song about a friend, if a friend suddenly turned out to be neither a friend nor an enemy, but if you can’t immediately figure out whether he’s good or bad, drag the guy to the mountains, take a risk, don’t leave him alone, let him be in a team with you, then you’ll understand who he is, there you will understand who he is, i wanted to ask you how, just about friends, well, for me, of course, from the point of view, i think that in life also with you, because you are connected with gorynych, with igor sukachev, yes, we are connected a lot, we are peers, we are connected by our place of residence, i live in well krasnogorsk pavshin, there is a village of pavshin, from the moscow river

the village of mikinnino, where as igor ivanovich lived once, back then, in his youth, before tushino and before all these further changes in life, it turned out that we were even baptized in the same church, well, really, i was already an adult, i was 31 years old, and he probably the younger ones baptized him, well, in short, territorially, geographically, we were already somehow there, apparently we were moving towards each other , this bridge across the moscow river, well, it’s there, when in his works, you’re always, well, i’m not always, i’m in the first film, the crisis of the middle age, this is his first film, debut, yes, i, they wrote the script with vanya akhlabystin, so they gave me such a role - an emergency doctor, igor, hello, hello, hello, thank you very much again, i met igor, and the acquaintance , you know, it happened on the cruise, we were approved in a film from the odessa film studio, such a cooperative film, i think it was the second year, the shuttle cruise was back to turkey, 8 days, i think nine, so he

played according to the plot, according to the script, he played the captain of this ship, and we are something like a detective story , i don’t remember well now, that’s where we met, actually at work and became friends, and so to this day... we don’t part, you’re watching the podcast melodies of my life, i’m its host valery syutkin , my guest is dmitry kharatyan, you and i just spent time on the set again the process of the film the green van, after which dmitry went to serve in the army, went to serve in the army, yes, eighty-four, you know , in december the film was released, in may i was drafted into the armed forces of the soviet union, and i was 2 4 years old there was a famous artist, i was married, i already had a child and in general such a serious test, at this age , when you already have something, it’s not just something to lose, but something to compare with, you didn’t use these many there, you know, i also served, i’m just 18 years old, 18

to serve, it seems to me, is still more correct, just tell me, you’re a famous artist 24 , and what is this, well, it’s simple, you remember there before, someone was pretending, but i couldn’t, that means i somehow.. well, it’s not that i don’t thank you that you couldn’t, i’m grateful to fate for the fact that i served in the army for a year and a half and it helped me a lot, really, and despite the fact that i was already accomplished, like with an education and that’s all with the family, but this army brought me together so well, so disciplined internal , some such correct guidelines, or something yes, the meanings in life have changed, i ’ll tell you, all thanks to these relationships, which there in the army are completely separate, they are not, but there was music during this period. and i was in a freelance ensemble, by the way, after all, even though it was sort of a combat unit and yes, but nevertheless, by the way, i also repent of the army, uh, i played the guitar and my troops were military air, we serviced planes, but i played all my free time,

i came from the army so a step higher in professional development, you’re already on bass played, i played bass on drums and sang in english with you there was someone else in the army from... the drummer of now vladimir kuzmin, alexey maslov, served with me, he was younger than me right in the same unit, and before me an artist a little older, but no less talented, alexey glyzin, right in the same one that he told me that it seemed like in one, but not at the same time, yes, just in one part, in the same part , and the city was saved in the far east and between khabarovsk and usurisk, this is necessary from moscow was still a flight away. by the way, for the first time in my life i flew on a plane to the army, before that i went with my mom and dad by train, and for me it was an eight-hour flight to khabarovsk, just such a strong attraction, there was still turbulence, but since then i love airplanes very much, i don’t know, somehow

it worked out for me with them, we are moving further along your destiny, we are entering this time in the life of dmitry kharatyan, who, especially for you girls, is: unforgettable. so, this handsome guy appears with fecundation, very everything is serious. the preparation was very serious, indeed, we were engaged in horse riding, it was already somewhere before gardomarinov, or just, well , it was a little before, i auditioned with marlen martinovich for the role of alexander sergegevich pushkin. so, it was eighty-one eighty-two, this is svetlana druzhinina for you. no, no, svetlana druzhinina came later. dressage, which means fencing with the wonderful vladim yakovlevich ballon, was such a master of international class, he was very famous

fight director, he fenced with both his right and left hand, so he, by the way, and the musketeers, he choreographed all the fights here in gordomariny and even played there, tell me, and you, i know, of course, you do exactly as much as you think is necessary, you will talk about this, but this is your then friendship of this entire company, everything is there at zhigunovny, it somehow stretched out, or are you now talking about, well, unfortunately, in life it doesn’t happen like in the movies, yes, we are just colleagues, we we rarely see each other, we communicate, but then, of course, in our youth, yes, of course, yes, yes, yes, in these 2 years our life in this story of the gardomarinov, of course, we were very close then , we talked, well, almost every day, but for you, if i ask, the gordamararins are like a school of life, what would you say about all this, oh, valer , you know, there is this image and role that

obliges me to be better, like the army, you know, for me, which gathered me and disciplined me at some points and motivated me and filled the floor with some meanings, also this role, which continues in general - to be useful to me, you know, it’s like a prayer when you you pray, you cleanse yourself, you become enlightened and you decide in this life, why you even live, also this role, it is fateful, of course for me, that’s how... the first role was igor grushko from minshov, this is my father in the cinema , also my mother in the cinema, you can say, this is of course svetlana sergeevna druzhinina, she is great, this is the same person who in the girls played an unforgettable role for us, she is still such an example for us of love of life, and overcoming all difficulties, she is very young, a young woman, she has such energy, svetlana sergeevna, live happily ever after, 1787 peace and gordemarinina 1787 war, 1787, yes 7000

, well, of course, this is the year of the battle of kinburg, where our russian army led by suvorov defeated the turks, this is the second russian-turkish war, of course, with with the help of the gordomarins and their children, here’s a short, brief summary, we’ll wait for the melody of love, tell us about them, it’s not a secret, everything is known. my personal life, ah, that means i’m married twice, such a very bad joke, but not about mine, not about my situation, my wife twice, both unsuccessful, one left, the other didn’t, well, it’s really like that for me, one left, the other didn’t, here are both marinas, both marina vladimirovna, here are both, by the way, according to the zodiac sign cancer, just yesterday i saw somewhere on the internet somewhere, which means the most faithful wives are crayfish, it turns out, wow, i think that’s how lucky. me, but we really , with my second wife, marina

maiko, we have been together for 34 years, and i have a son ivan, from the latter’s marriage, and from the first daughter alexandra, she is not an actress or a director, so vanya graduated from geek last year, and he is a film director , stage director, made a graduation film and goes to festivals very successfully, even receives awards, so they are preparing for their debut now, let ’s wish ivan kharasyan success, but how since. he is the absolute fruit of your love, this melody that helps you experience this feeling, well, what, it would seem, like life without spring, spring without foliage from gorodarins, but it should have been, in general , somehow it was she, but i, i have one of my very own, because my opinion is not criticism, but my opinion, that when a man talks about many women, it’s he who talks about himself, and when ... he says, and the only one, it’s you, give me one thing, yes, yes, this is exactly the song i want to perform, because it seems to me

that this is just a standard the relationship of a man to a woman, because each of us, each of you, is unique, unique , one forever, i have one, like the moon in the night, like spring in the year, like a pine tree in the steppe, there is no other... like behind which river, no, beyond the fogs, distant countries, this is the turn that is made with the river, you can take away peace, you can give up, you can pay off debts, you can love.

you can leave completely, just shine, shine, you are the only one for me, you are the only one for me, you are the only one for me, you are watching the podcast melody of my life, today my guest is dmitry kharatyan, this is the positive that you radiate, it would be impossible , if it weren’t for this, as in the acting profession there is always either joy or sadness, that’s... that you feel sorry for something in life, to what melody? oh, well, it’s not really a pity, there is a wonderful song by yuri visbor called lonely guitarist, well, this has something to do with us all, it’s a sad song, real, lonely guitarist in a roadside restaurant, black

candle, cypress. between the stars in the window , he plays and sings, sitting as if in a black frame, the black sea behind him, under the spotlight moon, our dear helmsman, on the road of my non-humans, from suffering without cigarettes. made this turn, oh, luck, my god, to hear in my native country, human speech, expressed in tender notes, the restaurant is half empty, two dancing couples, two

warriors are sitting, you and me, but without... bake the world, a lonely guitarist, with a good handel for a couple, this small tavern rises to heaven and floats like smoke, the christian idea that one day you will be lucky, if suddenly you are unlucky. he plays and sings, hoping all the time that someday good will win in the fight against evil, oh, how difficult it will be for us if we believe him, with this century our romance is

eternal and unclean, but saves us in the night, from shameful unbelief , a bell under an arc, a lonely guitarist, but it is a bell under an arc that saves us in the night, from shameful unbelief. a lonely guitarist, dmitry kharatyan and valery setkin save us in the night, this is a podcast, the melody of my life, you know, i remembered, did you tell me or not how armen borisovikhan, give some assessment, or

they filmed the scene where he does not participate, in my opinion, with kuravlev. and he came up to stop, as it were, the filming process, he loudly, so that the director could hear, said this: leones, i haven’t seen you at work for a long time, i’ve grown a lot, very much, you know, there was a story, he says that we should shoot more we will not? asked the director says, yes, this is the amount of truth that the people needed - said armen borisovich, this is the amount of sadness that i needed from dmitry kharatyan, a melody of joy, there is a song that in fact, well, many concerts end many famous performers including joseph davidovich kabzon, this is a song by our friend, oleg mityaev, this is oleg mityaev , of course, come on, the bend of the yellow guitar, you will hug, tenderly, the string, a fragment of echo,

will pierce the tight heights, sway. to the dome of the sky, big and star-snowy, how great it is that we are all gathered here today, the dome of the sky will sway, large and starry-snowy, how great it is that we are all gathered here today, like a reflection from the sunset, a fire of pine trees, a plaque. are you sad, tramp, come on, smile, someone very close will quietly tell you how great it is that we are all here today, someone very close

will quietly tell you how great it is that we are all here today we gathered, still with a sore throat, today we will remember those whose names are like wounds on our hearts. their dreams and we will fill every breath with songs, how great it is that we are all gathered here today , with dreams and songs, we will fill every breath, how great it is that we are all gathered here today, how great, how great. that there are such people on earth and communicating with them is a great pleasure: the melody of life of dmitry kharatyan, you saved this evening,

thank you, valera, thank you, it was very pleasant, dear friends, all episodes of the podcast melody of my life, you can watch on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru, me and dmitry kharaktyan, wish you health, good luck and good ones. news, thank you for being with us, see you next time on our podcasts. and in parting, a short poem by gennady shpalikov, artists, tailors and railway workers have wings, but only artists discovered how these wings sprout, and they sprout like that, out of nothing and out of nowhere, no, the miracle has an explanation, and i can’t afford it , thank you, valera, for the miracle. wonderful evening, thank you,

i need to have dreams because i really did and do a lot of ballets, yeah, sometimes i have dreams that the performance is starting and some dancer can’t come out, they say to me: igor, well, you know ballet, right? come on, and i wake up in this hysteria, yes, this happens, hello, dear friends, we have almost started our broadcast, uh, on the first channel, creative industry lab podcast with you elena kiper, music video director and producer, and roman karmanov, general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives and media manager, our guest is the brightest, iconic representative of fashion, more than fashion, he is an honored artist of russia. in fact, a lot of people sit in this chair. designers are all igor chipurin. good night, i’m very glad to be your guest. good night. but we have already started talking about dreams.

let's continue, because there is intrigue, the viewer is terribly interested in how the dream ended? what does a designer dream about? yes, there are dreams, i have a dream from which i wake up that we are preparing a show, almost all the models are almost ready. no one is dressed, the music of the show begins, and i see that the mannequin is not dressed yet, i also wake up in horror, so that is, this is pure horror, that is, it turns out, life’s a person is full of horrors, let’s somehow move on to the creative industry from dreams in yafa, and what triggers a designer, well, that is, something mentally, but no, well, firstly, the number of objects that we understand, yes design , well, what should i call it, art, that is, it’s street design, it’s like industrial design, if we’re talking about the facade of a factory, which, i’m glad that at one point i began to enjoy not only from my

direct profession as a fashion designer , i suddenly went into furniture design, then i started doing interior design and i’m grateful to myself that i wasn’t afraid, then i started making sets for ballets, where i made costumes, then i made a design, i made an iron design, i did a lot of things and got there, this is really my pride, this was last year, i made design of the facade of a plant that produces fiberglass, this is the strongest thread in the world , from which airplane wings are made, and a lot of other things , this is a russian company, and i am very proud of the result, it is very beautiful, so work turns me on, life turns me on in the context of my curiosity, how to do her more beautiful or more modern, and this of course comes from fashion for me, but everything that i do in general, even ballet, i always

do... very modern modern glass and my costumes are always somehow surprisingly new and for me this is also a new discovery of oneself, so what drives it is the desire to give birth to something new and be endlessly surprised, and ballet costumes, yes, that is , it is clear that the theme is already laid down there, but you, as a creator, can convey the meaning even more deeply through the costumes, i for example, when i looked at one of the st. petersburg museums costume... from filini's films , created them, which designer, i don't remember how many, but in any case they were wonderful italians, the most talented, this is such a complex work that conveys this contribution and excursion into history, and how it’s all stitched together, how it’s created, how it’s made, the feeling, it doesn’t seem to be conveyed from the screen, but you see what depth of work there was to create, construct, with the smallest. costume,

every line, i mean joke, there's a thought, definitely my first ballet, i i never dreamed of making costumes for a ballet, and the big theater took a risk, offered me to make costumes and scenery, it was an affer on my part, because i didn’t make any scenery, and i agreed, and this is the most amazing thing was the ballet of leonid’s thirty-fifth year massine, a former dancer of dyagelev, and this ballet was done by the phenomenal henri masson, the famous artist of that time and the son of massine, allowed me, a young guy who had never done anything, to redo everything and i got into it so deeply that i came up with the costumes, and the coloring was degrade, and there were a lot of movements, when guys lift girls and hold them on their shoulders and such diagonals go, i came up with the idea that the suit became lighter from dark and the girl was the lightest, that is, i even thought through

such things when making swans in paris lake recently, i came up with a tutu of a swan like japanese origami, and this performance has a completely different mood, it has become sharper, tougher, all this drama, it was spoken out more clearly, so of course, ballet for me is also a kind of innermost self, but this is an important manifestation of oneself as much as possible, because... you are spitting on history, no matter how strange it may sound , now i am very worried, because next year there will be a premiere at the bolshoi theater of the three-act ballet the tempest, the last play by shakespeare, where the theater entrusted me with it, to make costumes, i am very worried, because i let everything pass through me, but i am sure that we will do something amazing, after all, this is also engineering, because this is ballet, this costume must also work together with it and it

must be comfortable, comfortable in order to to do, of course, of course, well, that’s why we’ve been given the brain to think about everything , think 10 times, create once, well, after all , well, about paris, after all, after all, we hear a lot about attempts to limit russian culture for abroad connected with art, with literature, with our artists, with opera and so on, has this phenomenon affected you in any way? i was affected maybe more on a personal level, because in france there is angelin prijakash, this is one of the most famous french choreographers, i am with him i made four ballets, costumes for these performances, and i feel, of course, a barrier and i feel, of course, that i’m probably going to work on lake - this was my last work with him, although we really feel each other. we

are moving, developing. and art is endless and the most important thing is to maintain respect for each other, and i treat my past with those people with whom i worked with great respect and will always think so, no matter how they show themselves in any situation, now . creative industry podcast on channel one, in the lab podcast line, our guest today is igor chipurin, and with you is elena kiper, producer, music video director, elena and general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives. not long ago i talked with one person who represents industrial design. and so we, he and i talked about the state of industrial design, strictly speaking, and i asked him to draw me, so to speak , to indicate a diagram, that’s where we are, generally speaking, he drew such a ladder, and so

somewhere below, that means he poked at her like that. we are here, how did it happen, we have wonderful traditions of industrial design, generally speaking, soviet ones, how did we find ourselves in such a situation that industrial design is again at the point, at the very beginning of development, i think that probably after all, the times of the soviet union, it is design as such, probably , was not actively developing, and there really was no effort to do something individually, i even remember a technology textbook when i was studying, the first line was that we are different in that it takes away individuality, that’s how if only unity, it... comes through similarity, so it seems to me that this was the main problem, when there was no increase in doing anything actively, beautifully, the most important thing was that this was already at the end, it seems to me, of the history of the soviet

union, because if we take the twenties, if we take the thirties, then how architecture developed, how the same malevich kandinsky developed, how painting moved, where music moved, at some point, unfortunately, this anti-individuality, she seems to me absorbed everything, and we came to what we came to, because even if we talk about my direct profession as a clothing designer, remember, the all-union fashion house - it was an amazing school, an amazing story, but there were many fashion houses that simply created five coats there , four suits, a number of dresses, then it was sewn for the whole country in the same color and did not develop in any way, and there they thought more about not beauty, but about the comfort of producing it all, then, of course, difficult times, changes in all sorts of structures , but i'm glad that i

for so many years, and during this time i am really proud that, for example, my line of furniture, the onations were not me, but the italians, that is, the italians saw in me a designer who can create an amazing line of furniture, and i did it, then the same thing with when they approached me to make a car, i made it, a car, yes, the design of a car, but what do i mean, it’s just that the time in which i live, it apparently already needed and continues to need such designers, and i hope that i want to believe, even believe that i am not alone, of course, i sometimes work with designers, with architects, i see so many talented, young guys , they think very freshly, they make very... juicy, bright products, we are just such a huge country that so far this is not the whole country cover, but i believe, i really communicate with very talented young people, namely those who are engaged in industrial design, who

are engaged in some kind of drawing of objects, that is, not not in the profession and i want to believe that they will force themselves not to be disappointed in this, because like my generation fashion designer, if you look at the haute couture week in moscow, we had a galaxy of people who came out on this catwalk with their collections, almost no one remained in the profession, some became simply artists, some went into some kind of apprentices, that is, by and large, because it’s difficult to be a fashion designer, yes, of course, well , it’s difficult to be here, because there was no industry as such and we started to create it, and everything in the beginning is always very difficult, i really i work a lot, i don’t regret it, but i still probably gave my life... profession and i enjoyed it, but this is a sacrifice that not everyone can afford, well, i see designers in different parts of the country, i mean now specifically fashion, clothing, and designers,

who are quite powerful, but every time they complain that they lack investment, covid has undermined many due to the fact that there were no purchases, there was no... this is what is needed for this, ideally, this is what is needed, in our country there is no culture of investing in design, firstly, into fashion, especially since this has never happened it wasn’t, so either you live off, like our brand, due to the fact that you work endlessly and invest in yourself, but it’s very difficult, and this development is very long, or, when yours... can afford, believe in you, and when i won the non-speech competition and went to paris to buy myself a ticket, my mother sold tedadusa’s wonderful suit, this is the designer who dressed the beatles, with this money i bought a ticket,

that is, my mother likes me invested in this way, but this rarely happens, i want believe me, now there are a lot of programs, i hear, and sometimes i go to conferences, there are a lot of government programs. who are ready to help young designers develop, i am very happy about this, and i want to believe that those guys who are complaining, who are somehow... built, they should somehow steer into this path, because it seems to me that such a state support for design and fashion designers has never happened in our history, but in general russian fashion is some kind of special collencore, it’s something separate in the world, because, well , some people seem to be inspired, but they only transfer certain aspects, and some signs, but russian fashion as a phenomenon.

exists for the world, when i was doing, it seems, the third show in paris , i asked a question to a very famous french fashion woman who was involved in the press, sylvie grumbach, i say, sylvie, i don’t really understand how i can get my russianness here to show you in paris, she says, everything is fine with you, you take russian literature, you take russian music, your whole history is like that. what we perceive you as russian designer, says: how can we highlight, for example, a french designer? says, exactly the same, everything comes from the soul, everything comes through some of our cultural values ​​in which we are born, this is aesthetics, this is the past, this is music, i would really like russian fashion to continue to develop as a modern instrument, because that i really would not like the themes of sheepskin coats, felt boots, kokoshniks to be exploited, because this

is the past, this time has been lived through, we have cars, we fly in airplanes, we must be it is very constructive to correspond to the time in which we live, everything else is our culture, this is our aesthetics, why do they think, and i was often told that russian women are the most beautiful, but i myself don’t know why they are the most beautiful, yes they are the most beautiful , but this story all comes from the heart. because one famous photographer told me in response to this statement why russian fashion models are so successful in the west, he says: they have such deep eyes that taking photographs is a great happiness, coming into contact with this, so it’s all over again but the inner world that our culture, our literature, our upbringing gives us, how our parents raised us, i often see the confusion of europeans when you open the door for a woman and let her in, she somehow doesn’t understand that you are from her... but for me this is the norm, for me it is the norm when a woman

comes up to me to stand up, this is again education, it’s all from within and it has been going on since those times, which somehow still boils in our blood. dear friends, creative industry podcast, we continue the conversation, an interesting conversation with honored artist of russia, designer, igor chapurny, you can watch all episodes of the creative industry podcast on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru, well, about the fact that this hoodie, this clothing is killing our sense of beauty, we already talked about this today, here young designers are probably watching us too, young, i think, those who are just starting their journey, here are some tips or recommendations on where to look, in which direction, it seems to me that the main thing is that the new generation... is missing, it’s still knowledge, you have to practice it

always self-educate, you need to study the history of fashion, you need to study the history of fashion in different countries , you need to understand fabrics, i have very sad examples, when sometimes a young designer comes to me for an internship, he doesn’t even know the name of the sleeve, he doesn’t understand what words i i say, he finds them abusive, so i recommend to the new generation, study, teach. because clothes are not two sleeves and a neckline, it is a person’s philosophy, it is a person’s inner world, which he embodies in the form his appearance, knowledge, knowledge, knowledge, of course, a lot of work, where should he go, i don’t know where to start, technical school, institute, right away, i don’t know what a factory is, i lived in a time when i didn’t there were mobile phones, i have to think about it, my parents already found me, but then

it was somehow all normal, and there was no internet, and i started as a designer when there were no magazines, there was no internet, that is, i expressed myself on observation seems to be there, yes, but now everything is possible, study, enter into internet, there are a million courses, a million people give away their knowledge, learn, it’s real , well, a person differs from a non-human in that the creature... can be trained and improved, so you need to improve yourself and move forward in your profession, well, profession too, that’s it , young designers, they have parents, when i was twenty or eighteen years old when choosing a profession, if i told my parents that i would do animation, it would have sounded like this, in general quite, let’s say so, fantastic, then there was something in fashion, economists were in fashion, lawyers were there and so on, like that, now the creative industries are flourishing, that’s what you can say to the parents

of young people who want to become fashion designers, to what extent is this a profession that will allow them to get into legs. it seems to me that a designer, involuntarily by his profession, if he does not develop, he becomes a very interesting personality, a personality for his parents, for his family, for his children, because this is a person who improves the world in any case, a person who improves the world is a beautiful personality, so parents, it seems to me, don’t need to be afraid of this, give, directly guide and give birth to these people... with their harmony they decorate the world of close people, decorate the world of strangers, this is really now a very interesting time for talents , and if you weren’t a designer and artist, what would you be? at first i dreamed of being a figure skater and i had an idea, when my mother

was at work, to fill the room with water, open the balcony, that i was frozen and skate, designer and artist, transformed the space, yes, it was a little bit the time of astronautics, well, life, life took me into the tight grip of fashion, put me in my place, and i don’t regret it, into space too, yes, i dreamed of being an astronaut, because you managed to watch the greatest, greatest film of all time challenge already, for some reason i was afraid to watch it, in the context of the fact that i don’t understand what my challenges are, what clothes are there, what kind of clothes are there, yes, i ’ll definitely watch it, but i was just born at a time when astronautics was actively developing , and figure skating was a number alone in the world, so i took the best fantasies and wanted to be, apparently, the best , ballet in space in costumes from igor chipurin is the next step, it seems to me, but

no, in a rocket from igor chipurin, i think it doesn’t matter when someday the rockets will be so huge that there will be different mini ones. installation, by the way, about rockets, and you haven’t tried it out yet, i, i have one dream, this is to make a design in an airplane, of some company, that is, all the seats, trim, that is, to make it so beautiful, comfortable that people that fell on a few hours on this one, just relaxing from pleasure, from tranquility and from some kind of designer beauty anyway , maybe i’ll have time, maybe, dear friends, with us... today on the air of the creative industry program in the lab podcast line on the first channel there was a man transforming the space around him uncontrollably igor chipurin, honored artist of russia , absolutely and the program was hosted for you by elena kiper clipmaker and producer and roman karmanov, general director of the presidential fund

for cultural initiatives and media manager. it was creative creative podcast. goodbye. hello, the program is on air, ekaterina is in the studio. main events of the day. new orbits, vladimir putin in korolev near moscow, which was shown to the president at the energia rocket space corporation. in ruins.