[000:00:00;00] it’s not just that we won’t do anything, women, as a rule , argue their position very well, but when you know how when they don’t remain an argument they say, because i said so, the portfolio by profitability, if we talk about that, you’ve already mentioned , which is lower than the return as a portfolio rule for women, you can name some of these figures, there are some figures, here is the average return of a woman’s portfolio and a man’s, right here in the forehead, well, the difference is somewhere around 3-5%, if compare portfolios. in terms of profitability, well, if the survivor’s mistake, that is those men who lost everything are those who remained, yes, yes, who survived, who received some kind of final investment, received some kind of profit, i think that if you add it up with those who died in an unequal battle with investments, then i think that the profitability of women will be significantly higher, well, i wouldn’t say so, because again , women simply invest less due to the fact that they earn less, about 27%,

if compared. or there is a specialty between men and women, for some reason this is the trend. but tell me, are there any studies that show how much more often men deviate from an investment strategy than women, that is, how much more women are, well, i can’t say die-hard, but let’s say, consistent in executing their strategy and how far they go to the end, rather than men who change , they give up, something else, there is this kind of research data, well, i think that this is generally a percentage... about 20%, because the difference between investing women and men in our country is approximately this, and of course, these are basically the largest cities, and also an interesting fact , by the way, they invest in any product, i’m starting from deposits, real estate, it’s very interesting with the world , we really didn’t conduct such a study this year, but according to the data last year, why did we even begin to actively engage in this topic, because we analyzed our own portfolio in

ba, how many women, how many men, in order to simply understand what the actual ratio is, and what products, and in general we looked at world, it turned out that the russians are ahead of almost the entire planet and the first spanish women, by the way, take the place, yes, and then the russians go , but the only thing that, again, i repeat, these are only large cities, and what is this is temperament, i think that really this is a historical factor that, firstly, russian women have become more and more informed and ... are trying to open some new products for themselves - such products for family income and savings, this is the first point, the second point is important - it’s just a search for additional income, i think that it is connected with this, well, plus, after all, our internet community is quite wide and no matter what anyone says, and the availability of the internet in the country is quite high, and apparently this is the moment it also plays

a role, however, however, ignorance, financial such a gap, to some extent, we devote quite a lot of our work to the topic of financial literacy, we film all sorts of video lessons and, in fact, we somehow try to expand the awareness of our clients, in principle russians, so, therefore, gradually , like this... gradually we crept up on the topic women's investments, as far as i know, no one is doing this, but well , the topic is really very interesting, because, as i already said, the profitability of women compared to men is lower in the regions, this is really a very good help for the female population, to increase their income, and also, as you know, investing and investment growth

is, of course, supporting the economy. if you want to know more about investments, financial literacy, and how financial life works in our country, look for the episode of the easy money podcast on the website first channel 1tv.ru. russian grand prix, live broadcast, tomorrow at the first, let's see, it will be very interesting, love figure skating, adore

figure skating, appreciate figure skating. this is an easy money podcast and today we are discussing the topic of women in investing. at one time, when i was thinking about this topic, when they also analyzed the audience, i think that initially. uh, perhaps two factors led to the fact that women began to actually think, think about investments, but firstly, these are wars, yes, which they experienced our country, this is the civil war, the great patriotic war, when a huge number of women on their shoulders, in fact, bore all this weight, when all the men went to the front, the same thing during crises, yes, which periodically shock, and well, even in the modern history of russia, this is the ninety-eighth year and 2000 is the eighth year there, i’m not even talking about the crisis there. liquidity, god bless them there is the fourteenth and covid, it always turns out that men go to work, yes, the woman answers, that is, the man has no time to be distracted, that is, he his task is to thresh at the face, and there to produce what is called coal, and then the woman begins the distribution

, in fact, she is engaged in this, and the actual question is this, regarding the difference in the portfolio , let’s go down a little into specifics when we talk about women in investments, let’s say we don’t take deposits. yes, what is it? just based on statistics, what do female investors pay attention to? well, of course, these are stocks, blue chips, that is, this is something that is more predictable, federal loan bonds, this is more difficult, although this quite popular, but now, well, apparently there is still not enough knowledge, and if federal bonds, they are more so to say, are trusted by... then if you are talking about some companies, that is, not state-owned, yes, some, it’s more difficult here , this is the very last place now, because more analysis is needed, because blue chips are heard, but here you need it, you need to dig deep, that is, women also lack patience, not

only do they lack knowledge, there is not enough knowledge in the matter, how many times have we talked with women, a very large percentage of those who invest in real estate among russians in general, including among them, real estate is our sore russian topic, so what? cheese is sausage, so here, the best investment is to buy an apartment, but as a woman, i want to say, i don’t know, but about men, yes, here i can assume that, after all, this kind of long-suffering is greater we, the female population, like to invest in real estate, but from the point of view of resale, i know one woman who, as a businesswoman, started her investment activity precisely from the purchase of an apartment for resale like this, gradually, gradually, that is, in principle, she bought the property not for the child, not for herself, precisely to increase profitability, well, here the state also uses taxation

to push long-termism, and that is, for 3 years no one did not cancel the periods that need to be endured in order not to pay tax on the profits received, well, the house still needs to be built, but this is how we even say it, that is , we say at the construction stage there was such a situation, although it is still... such an example of a classic conservative investor, if we take the gradation and move away from the general, then we say that women, as a rule, are an example of a conservative investment portfolio , it’s true, yes, of course there are some without a head, and we also met such people without a head, we’ll have to remember very much it’s good that they invest their funds in some kind of risky operations, but as a rule,

they still, first of all, limit the budget, and well, they are still more conservative suitable, that is, a man can take more risks, buy some shares, something else, we started talking about the topic of financial literacy. touched on a little bit, well, actually there are two questions, yes, how effective do you think programs for improving financial literacy are online programs, and in general, in general, if you know such programs, what is the state or private company doing now in this direction , that is here's exactly what the work is going on to increase the financial literacy of the population, what you know, i know various and relatively speaking collections are released, these are some online videos that are released, but this is of course, these are not one-time things, this program in the ministry of finance has existed for quite a long time and has been developing. the central bank has long been

engaged in increasing the financial literacy of the population, which regarding women's investments, we are probably the only ones working in this particular context, but here we also have very good partners, and as you already mentioned, the ministry of finance and a private research institute are such a eurasian women's forum at the council, in fact, is where the idea came from... namely, increasing the literacy of the female population in terms of investments, we called our project “women’s leadership in investments” and actually launched a portal, which i think has been working successfully for almost 2 years there from personal an office with truly high -level experts, these are brokers, these are some people who actually deal with finance, bank employees, from specialized departments. who tell the population,

well, the emphasis, of course, is on women, yes, for in order to attract attention, but in essence these tools are all training courses, they are designed for women for men, that’s why we have such a portal, we have more and more participants, that is, there are interests on the part of people, and more moreover, as part of our research, the latest one, which we conducted jointly with naffi , about 17% of russians definitely want in the coming year, those who have not invested want to try to make an investment, which is also additionally connected, they are not satisfied with the return on deposits, i think that it’s not true, firstly, they began to learn more, this is primarily connected with this, just that very financial literacy and awareness, rather , there is no such thing, excuse me, i’ll interrupt you, that we hear this advertisement, yes, double your money in the morning.

and having received the initial information that this is doubling, tripling, then a person comes there, well, to the bank , looks, okay, now the central bank has raised the rate there, our deposits there are going at 11, at 12%, even though it’s more than ten, yes, further, the man says, okay, where are my promised 100, yes, no, let's do something else, and on the contrary, it plays a bad, cruel joke with the fact that advertising, many financial organizations promote their projects there, promising mountains of gold and actually pushing them into the population... well, into the information clutches of scammers, there is truth in your words, of course, these are the conventional methods of awareness, rather , drawing attention to one’s own , i don’t know, one’s current activities, it can of course push people to just thoughtlessly make some investments and lose theirs the funds are, of course, here, but to answer your question, why did such an investment boom begin in the first place? well, first of all, it just happened that our last... by the way

, there was such a boom in opening brokerage accounts when people were sitting at home, when profitability fell and they began to look for ways, there was a lot of time, they began to read, actually open those very brokerage accounts, but at the same time these brokerage accounts remain unused, that is, people opened them, then everything stabilized more or less in the economy and they forgot about it even iis, well an individual account, a deduction from the state, if you work for well, 4,000 rubles, but nevertheless, as they say, this is enough, well , serious money, 52,000 rubles can be received as a one-time tax deduction, or you also need to release your income from this account know how to do it, yes, for example , there are a lot of people there who buy real estate there and do not receive tax deductions, simply because they don’t know or don’t have time to file or something else? that is

, a tax deduction when purchasing real estate is one thing, another thing is a direct tool designed to start active use of an account, and an individual account, it was actually created for this , well, somehow it’s left, by the way, and banks are now promoting iis or still focusing on some of their investment products, and in my opinion on their investment products to a greater extent, why? well, because it's for the bank? well, of course, well, objectively , probably yes, this is a business, so i would... start with the fact that the first most important message that needs to be sent to the audience is in those who are trying to actually educate themselves financially, and gain that same financial literacy, and this means giving basic returns on, well, in this case, let it be rubles, but god bless him, they haven’t gotten around to dollars yet , even to the yuan , that is, a person must imagine what a relatively risk-free income is, yes, well, where someone guarantees it, well, either a bank or something... in government bonds, which is much more reliable, yes, i take this opportunity, i want

say that bonds are much safer bank deposit, while they bear exactly the same profitability, yes, sometimes even a little higher, and sometimes a little lower, but approximately the same as the rates in banks, only here your deposit is guaranteed by the deposit insurance system, well, in fact, also by the state, but only up to a certain amount, and in my opinion , up to a million now and 400, but in the case of bonds, you give it back to the state. the state is fully responsible for fulfilling its obligations to you , but you need to remember this and this is the very basis literacy, and i would start with the fact that everyone should imagine this level. profitability, because in our country, both women and men, i think everyone, when they hear about 11, 10%, they say, well, where are these ikhs, yes x2, x3, multiplication, here, and this is not the case, everyone must understand that this is really a huge risk, that’s how profitable it is, yes, even for financial institutions, and well, for banks

in this case, to promote exactly this kind of profitability, then to educate their investor, well, let it be a woman, a man, this it doesn’t matter, for example, we use the ofz tool, but i want to say here that we probably need to tell the population more about it, because it is certainly in demand and is even in very active demand , but at the same time, with everything, these are probably again large cities, that is, these are people who can somehow glean information, we need to tell the population more widely about such instruments in general, as for deposits, well, here, after all, the profitability is probably still a little less, because there are restrictions there, again there are amounts, it depends on the amount, yeah, that’s why there’s such a nuance. this is the easy money podcast, and today we are discussing the topic of women in investing. what is a big source of confidence for women in terms of information perception,

that is, who should it be? it should be some kind of government structure, that is, the speaker there from, say, the ministry of finance, or it should be some kind of scientist, that is, who she believes in most... firstly, it depends on the psychotype, the woman herself depends, secondly, it seems to me that women, they are a collective image, they draw this for themselves, they, if in principle a woman begins to dive into the topic of investments, she will listen to this, and that, and that will make some kind of conditional choice, that’s attracting attention, i don’t even know, it seems to me that this must be some famous person who is somehow connected with the world of finance, but at the same time popular. for example, you mikhail, i hope we will have a boom after the program with those women’s investments, everything is like in life, but you know how a man and a woman come into an ordinary grocery store, i don’t know what to buy, let’s say, i don’t know, there are canned peas , yes, let’s say, a man sees a shelf with peas, takes them and goes to the cash register, doesn’t sort them out, and there’s a brand

of peas, but a woman has to go around the whole store, then she will come up at the same time, having collected a bunch of things there, this is also necessary , then... she will carefully examine the peas, and then there should be some famous person who advertises a certain brand of peas, she will choose it, that is, as i understand it, all life patterns, they all work in investments, well, of course they work, by the way, if a man trusts more, for example, some financial organizations, brokers, some management companies of his finances, as a rule, then women trust banks more, such a conservative approach, that’s all - after all, banks are more of a trust organization for women than, for example, some management company, that is , it turns out that, unlike men, because again this is a question of a risk factor, that is, a financial company is some kind of such still an incomprehensible beast on the market, the beast on the market is like this, yes, but there have always been banks, the main ones should definitely not fail, the logic is in this, and what should be according to your research, by the way you watch

your investors grow , what must happen in a woman’s mind for her to come out of this. here’s a conservative investor, i’ll give a three-liter jar at home to the bank, actually as a financial institution, even if we leave the ofz out of the brackets, what needs to happen for it to become truly full-fledged an investor in the broad sense of the word and have already thought about such a word as an investment portfolio, well, again, if we compare, a man can immediately go, relatively speaking , buy shares without understanding it, then a woman is more like she has such a step-by-step approach, she will first try one instrument, a second, a third. that is, what does this mean, if all of them have worked, that is, she is gaining more and more tools, then she, in fact, is growing in investment knowledge and is using more and more a wide range of tools, by the way, in court the question is, from experience, who turns to the services of investment advisers more

, men or women, men, that is, women prefer everything, but among investment advisers there are many women, i myself know, well, exactly because of this. that is, the smartest women teach men and this, in fact, is the main investment, yes, too, and such an interesting factor, by the way, how much time does it usually take for a woman to become so that one can say that she is really became full-fledged investors, i can’t say according to statistics, it also depends on the person as a whole, well, how would this approach be, i can say that, well, if among women, then 39 years old is the most basic... age for investment, that is, this is a woman who has already gone through a certain professional path, who usually has a higher education; many of these women are very

entrepreneurs. but these are women who come from finance, just from the educational sphere, well, mostly of course, who are connected with entrepreneurial investment , financial activities, let's say, let 's talk about what is also an interesting point about how to invest, earn money, as a rule, what do women invest their earned capital in? well, in the education of children, this is probably the number one such task, this is a long-term investment in order to then actually invest this money in the education of children, including in your own education, and that is, these are some specific life tasks, life goals, this is definitely real estate then there are these not zaluts diamonds and no, but it’s interesting that wealthier women are just thinking about it, too, we had one such thing, well , i wouldn’t say it was a study, but rather a round table on the topic of investing in

art, in some precious metals and so on, and now this is gaining more and more momentum among the female entrepreneurial community, including, well, becoming popular, then i will address the male part of our audience, dear men, men invest in gold and dear men, do not envy your women, because all earned profit, as she told us. just faith, they will invest in the education of your children, in their own, at least you will live with educated children and women next to you, in recreation, travel too, well, again, family pleasure to say, a direct difference if a man invests in order to just make money, as a rule, without any tasks at all, but as a rule, i want more money, relatively speaking, now i have this amount, i ’ll invest it there, earn money and be... well done, relatively speaking, i’ll feel it there yourself, and woman, no, this is a different approach, these are immediately some tasks of this kind, well

, of a social and family nature, you know, you just said it word for word, like for many years, my wife told me, you know , why can’t you earn a lot of money, because you earn it for nothing, when you see that you already have enough for everything, then some kind of bar is triggered for the man, and i say, yes , you’re mine, this one as he knows. there are still a bunch of tasks, so they set goals for investing, it turns out that from aimless just making money, it turns out, but this is really so, indeed, if you set clear goals, and this is confirmed by all psychological studies on financial planning, budget management, with clear goals you achieve them much faster, more clearly with a greater probability than if you just the goal is to make money, yes, because because it's psychological here. as soon as

the first three levels are filled, the man rushes to the sofa, well, with the rarest exception, yes, because everything is fine, there are cars, apartments, dachas there, all the security, what else , but a woman is always like this, maybe this is another difference, yes, yes, the main rule is that the actual goal in investing should be a specific goal, from this portfolio. you can formulate what you need, all women, without exception, come into investing with a specific goal, well, i haven’t met a woman who, to be honest, that’s how many times i ’ve talked just with the female gender, let’s say, who are somehow interested , really very important every woman is literally a woman, she strives for a specific task, to solve a specific problem, yeah, it’s true, returning to the topic , the use of a man is such an interesting sport, yes a man is a hunter, but this is psychology, men are important there, so

i can - i can, i did it - i did it, i can do it, why, let it be , here, here i can, yes, then a woman specifically has this masculine energy, well, it’s a well-known fact that a woman is needed in order to inspire a man and b, direct his efforts in the right direction, useful, in fact, then it will work. the laws of life on this planet, yes, in fact, the main goal of a woman is preservation , procreation, therefore, in order to preserve the economy, it is necessary to increase the literacy of the female population in terms of investments, well, you know, i can say this, there is such a conventional phrase in russia , which we lost, i remember when, many years ago, i watched chekhov’s cherry orchard for the first time in the theater, and well, it’s one thing

to read. that the main character, when he told in the second part, this is the beginning of the century there, yes, he tells his household that he will do, after the sale of the estate, in fact, there is the main plot of the work, and he declares, just read it, just don’t be lazy, he declares that he will invest them in government bonds and will use this income there, for me it was such a revelation, i think , why he was there or a theater critic, i don’t remember now, but a man associated with art, far from finance for sure, and he is completely. calmly, but operates with complex financial instruments, not a bank deposit, so he tells this to his household, who understand, they understand what he is saying, that is, when they say there all of russia is bast shoes, yes, at least in large cities, even on estates, that is , the level of literacy was such that such complex instruments were spoken of simply as

ordinary things there, well, like i’ll buy there, i don’t know, a new hat with ribbons or something, i think that, of course, this is a generally normal approach to such a stable stable economy in order to conclude our conversation, in order to really we received not only female investors, but also male investors, i think that all market participants, and this is beneficial, should engage in basic education, yes, because when you are open, when you are transparent, i just noticed that a lot of advertising offers are based on the ideology of transparency , yes, there are transparent conditions, and transparently, there is a lot of promise towards openness, i think this is a very correct message, that is , you need to win trust first of all, through honesty, through your expertise, and then we will all grow up together, well that's it including our program, and successful women investors, and men, the population of russia as a whole is very smart, i think our country,

our people are very smart, i think we deserve to be financially... including financially , not just women. vera, thank you very much for your time, thank you, i hope that we will encourage a large number of women to become even more active, starting from financial literacy, engage in successful investments, become successful investors, thank you, thank you. hello friends, this is the podcast life i am wonderful with you, its host, writer alexey varlamov, my guests today are cinema and literature, the wonderful director alexander veledinsky and the writer, public figure, sergei shargunov, and the reason for our wonderful meeting,

thank you for coming, was the release of the film 1990, based on the novel by sergei shargunov, and actually today about this novel, about this film, about this time, i want to talk to you, let’s start with you, sergey, in fact, the theme of 1993 in literature, well, is reflected in one way or another , here what comes to my mind, but these are novels, yuri bonddarev's bermuda triangle, yes , this is alexander prakhanov red-brown, this is yesinin, the former rector of the literary institute, his novel eclipse of mars, and what else comes to mind, boris evseev, the renounced hymns, here is yours, leonid borodin had it, yes, leonid borodin, it was leonid yazifovich, by the way, and dwarf cranes, by the way, yes, vasily belov, beloov, yes, of course, vasily beloov, here is your novel, eduard limnov, eduard limonov, well , look, all these writers are writers, well

so to speak, a generation older than you. writers who encountered these events at a completely different age, and you, who were then a youth, a teenager, why, why, what was you, a thirteen-year-old boy, ninety-third, we are children of the terrible years of russia, unable to forget anything, remember how at the bloc, i belonged to the generation that matured early, everything that happened and outraged was impressively involving, those events, in my opinion, were... to a certain extent , turning points in the modern history of russia, and the ninety-first year was not turning events, but it’s all interconnected, of course, this is such a special time, but it’s interesting that the people who defended this building together in the ninety-first year turned out to be opponents 2 years later, and it’s typical that many young guys, either my peers or a little

older , those who defended democracy in 9 became defenders in ninety-three, and among them were the dead. for example, i was eager to go to the barricades in 1991 and came already in 1993; in 1991 they didn’t let me in, my parents weren’t allowed in, and in 1993 too. they didn’t let me in, but i had already run away from home, it was all taken very seriously, painfully, but besides everything else, it seems to me that a certain gaze of a writer was already emerging, because when i arrived there, i tried to remember all this, to fix it in my mind, and you were such a fool, you were there, that’s what you were doing there on those barricades, well, first of all, i still felt like such a witness, a chronicler, it was very interesting for me to communicate with people, to understand what they are like, i remember this - the station krasnoprestenskaya, ordinary people in the metro are completely indifferent to what was happening and one person in shabby clothes who shouted: “comrades, don’t forget to get out.” and how many people shied away from him. i go out,

i see a woman with a vat of borscht, which was detained by the police, she is trying to smuggle this borscht through the barricade, besieged. and this large pan tips over, and bright red liquid spills onto the marble. you knew about it, i told you about it, i also think it’s just being asked, i didn’t tell you, well, maybe there will be a series, no, probably not me then, well, there’s a lot more, and smoke bonfires, and the faces of the barricade workers, and uh, completely different flags, an inflorescence of flags, disputes within the crowd, someone turns away from one speaker, someone turns to him with hope, completely different chants, completely different flags, and you have it all yours young memory... the society for developing the theory of happiness, youth, there were christian democrats, cadets, anarchists, nationalists, such an amazing gate park in the city center, wonderful,

what are your memories, alexander? and my memories are such that i started on october 1st, i not from moscow, and on october 1 we started studying at the higher courses for screenwriters and directors, and lived in a dormitory in gik, this is galushkina street, next to mira avenue, floors, which means that in our dormitory we saw armored personnel carriers, kostankina, and us , we lived in the same room, lyosha sidarov, igor porublev and i, this is the whole future brigade, who made the brigade, lyosha is the director, and we went after these kostankin armored vehicles, we saw it all with our own eyes, so to speak, we took part, we believed that we, novice filmmakers , must, of course, be in the thick of things, you we lay there for a moment under the bullets. they shot at us, reporters were killed before my eyes, all this happened, yes, but you can say that you, as a director, were also born there in a sense, of course, i didn’t think then, it was scary then, there was real shooting, because that

armored personnel carriers were driving, announcing that if you don’t disperse in 45 minutes, in 30, in 10 minutes, we will open fire, no one believed it, it’s all in the film. and when ask, i was more focused on the novel on the chronicle, because we came when already ask, ask explain this to ours. the center of vastankin is opposite the main building, that’s where the cars crashed, we didn’t see it with our own eyes, so i could only rely on the chronicle of roman serezhin eyewitnesses, but we tried to do

everything right, exactly as it happened there, and when the first shots were already sbtrov, tracing up, and then went down, we fell, crawled there, that means on the ground. then my worldview changed forever, but how did it happen that you read sharguno’s novel, and seryozha and i have been friends, we’ve been in saratov for 20 years now we met at the trial of eduard limonov, we are friends and communicate, and uh, seryozha, he gave me this book 10 years ago, well, actually, when it came out, when it came out, twenty years of events, here i am, not even 10 years have passed, yes, i i read it, i always knew that this was my... topic in 1993, then your geographer just came out, yes, the geographer just came out, yes, i looked, i think how cool sasha takes pictures, if only he was such a director, the film was shot based on the novel by sergei shargunov, and

why based on, after all, cinema and literature - this is absolutely the essence of a different thing, yes , of course, literature, i think , comes first, cinema is based on literature, even if it is original, but the script is still written. i just have to let everything pass through me , which means my fantasy begins to play out , especially since i’m a participant in the events, so i made , i don’t remember, four or five film adaptations, starting with pietsukha, with the first short film, limnov, then limonov , then ivanov, then prilepin, the monastery series, and yes, this is the fifth incronization, it turns out i, with whom i did not communicate from the writers, i immediately warned what i would do based on the motive, and not once did anyone object, everyone, all the writers, told me about

the same thing, that the book is already good, you’ll take it off a bad film is your problem, if you make a good one, it’s just a plus for us as a writer, so i think in this sense, i’m very pleased with the film, and i immediately understood that it would be a separate independent world, but it’s all the more interesting to see those rapper points that exist in a novel and see, as it were, some kind of parallel life of your heroes, or see the film embodiment of certain moves, for example, when tsoi is singing on the opposite barricades, and how the camera, yes, goes into the sky and is transferred from tverskaya street to the ostankino pond, and now you came up with it, wrote it, now you see it on the screen, embodied, by the way, this episode is very important, in principle, this is what should, should bring people together, but this rapprochement is not happening, it seems to me that in something important we coincide, because thought and books and films how...

scary is dehumanization, how scary when a split occurs among people, especially among those closest to them, and this is not made up, we know thousands of such families, and then and now the archetypal story is absolutely yes, the heroes are not some kind of activists, these are ordinary people, it’s just that harsh reality has invaded their quite quiet ordinary life, so read separate books, watch movies, compare in favor of one or the other, but seryozha and i are similar to each other. well, yes, but i must say that it happened something like this for me, i was sitting when i watched this film next to pavel bosinsky and i kept asking basinsky , pash, and this was in the book, and this was because i must admit, i had not read the book at that time, i’m guilty before you seryozha, that i read this book after that , when i watched this film, because i suddenly became wildly interested in what is in the film, what is in the book, when i read the book, i realized that it is , of course, very different, very different. and it’s interesting, yes, it’s interesting,

how you worked with this literary material, yes, it’s interesting, how in this novel this is how this canvas is developing, this is such a saga, really a family one, but still, returning to basinsky, there have been a lot of reviews of the film already, mostly positive, in general, it seems to me that this is a great success, on which i can sincerely congratulate you all film crew, here, but nevertheless, the question hovers, is it for the whites or for the reds? it seems to me that... there we ask ourselves this question, we will live, not very well, here you are, a former teacher of marxism-lenism, are you for the reds or for the whites, i am for private property, and so do i, but i doubt it, but i want to figure it out, because i am for justice, i am for the people, we will apparently always ask this question to each other, meaning by white and red they are completely different,

these colors are definitely the bolsheviks there and liberals there, nothing like that, yes, but as long as we ask this question, we will not achieve happiness, happiness cannot be achieved, only a madman is happy. hello, on the air news in the studio sergei tugushev, at the beginning of the episode, briefly about the main thing. attack on the refugee camp and fighting in the southern part gas sector, at the same time hamas attacks tel aviv, a new round of the arab-israeli conflict. destroyed hymars installation and