tv PODKAST 1TV October 30, 2023 12:40am-1:31am MSK
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the criminal code of the russian federation, it was just stupid speculation. it was large-scale, there, in my opinion, one of the episodes was about 11 yugoslav sheepskin coats, they were sold , well, in principle, it was a term, but he was sentenced, he received 7 years, he received the term precisely for profiteering, there were no murders there, no conspiracies, for some reason it was believed that... galina leonidovna brezhneva, who was either his patron or friend, or i don’t know, he didn’t hold the candle as a mistress, should have was to excuse him, as many said, and yuri mikhailovich churbanov, the husband of galina leonidovna brezhneva, this is of course wildness, i naturally asked yuri mikhailovich about boris, he... very irritably
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left this topic, that is, it is clear that he knew about his wife’s hobbies, but it was not, firstly, galina leonidovna’s only hobby, and secondly, it was not a fact that it had some kind of completely romantic, when i say romantic, i mean bed character, or maybe just her i liked the company and interesting, indisputably interesting companions, and with a sense of humor, with some common interests , i lived in the same house with yuri mikhailovich churbanov , before he became, in fact, that same churbanov, brezhnev’s husband, and i in general i was a schoolboy, i lived in house number 23 on the second novostankinskaya street, this is this house, this is a five-story building, what is called khrushchev, this is the second entrance where i lived, this is this entrance, churbanov, why do i
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actually remember my neighbor, well , first of all, he lived in the entrance where mine lived comrade, dima likhanov, who later became a writer, at that moment he was also a schoolboy, and the son of albert likhanov, a writer, and my father, who was also a soviet writer, but at this moment we are talking about... , he was simply a correspondent for the komsomolskaya pravda newspaper, it was called a komsomol village, because in these, in this house in the neighboring houses, there lived people who were somehow related to komsomol, my dad worked in komsomolskaya pravda, which was the organ of the komsomol central committee, and yuri mikhailovichnov, he worked in the central committee the komsomol, the head of some department, those old women who sat there on these benches in this... in this courtyard, they of course knew
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a lot, about churba in particular they knew that he was not entitled to the status of the black volga, which i picked him up every morning for work. no one knew that he was already there, he was part of the family, the general secretary. in komsomol then they worked with their livers, they said that this meant that in order to make a career, you had to drink very seriously, so yuri mikhailovich... i’m not at all on some negative level, when i became a soviet journalist, in a komsovol publication, i went through this, that is, i absolutely do not condemn a person who abused alcohol in the soviet union, because it was one of the main entertainments, let’s say, yuri mikhailovich in general, uh, loved life, he was in this sense so handsome and seaworthy, and he probably loved to work too, since he made such
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a career, because he made a career even before he met galina leonina brezhneva, by the way , again, when i was working over a book about the uzbek case, investigators from the ussr prosecutor general's office shared photographs with me, and i used several of them in my book, and about churbanov and the brezhny dynasty, i put this one on the cover, because well, here he is, he’s just for me i like it, i want to go to him, there, on this carpet in uzbekistan, where, where the fruit is, everything is wonderful, john kirby, speaker of the us national security council, should not mislead anyone, this pre-army look, kirby, national security council security is the structure who coordinates all law enforcement agencies in the united states, his rank is officially rear admiral,
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took my life under her control, how did all this affect you as a father? a white man who has problems in his family, americans are very susceptible to such stories, the main functionality is to launder. us reputation. we have appropriations and corresponding powers for both ukraine and israel. we must see the main beneficiaries. this is the american military-industrial complex. an extremely useful lobbyist who really pushes very serious matters. the delivery of the most dangerous, most destabilizing weapons lies ahead. john kirby, rear admiral and vice liar. heir dolls. what is this? summary of german troop movements near our border. if this is not preparation for war, then what? imitation of preparation for war. we do a very important department. pribentrop and even
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fewer himself personally took part in the preparation of your materials. the same materials that you gave to the russians. chief of intelligence november 4, 5 and 6, on the first. yes, at least you understand that you are i signed my death warrant, you idiot. so here we go, this is a podcast chronicling the end times. today we are talking about people who
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were close to galina leonidovna brezhneva. now, of course, when i remember the circumstances of this case, this case, and those episodes that were imputed to yuri churbanov, i understand that this is not the scale that can impress the current reader, and often i hear that this case was inflated, churbanov was persecuted not as a corrupt official, but as the son-in-law of the general secretary, brezhnev, it really was the end of times, because after the death of brezhnev. in 1982, the country collapsed, before that there was, of course, some kind of inertia that held the country, but the fact is that leonidich brezhnev, despite probably having some merits, was a man who was not able to correct
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state discourse, the discourse remained stalinist, in the sixties and seventies, and the country... lived by completely different laws, there were completely different realities and different, if i may use the term concepts, that is, the concepts were new, the elite was absolutely bourgeois, party elite under brezhnev, and the discourse, i repeat, was still the same about the world proletariat, in general, nothing has changed, this is where the country itself was undermined, it is customary to say that the country was destroyed by the program, the view and - rock musicians are by no means i’m tired of repeating this, the country was destroyed by the incompetent party elite, which did not adapt to the change of eras, which is why, in fact, the end of times has come. chump, i remember a lot of stories that
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now seem funny, bribes in the form of three melons, or a box of cognac, embroidered... a robe embroidered with gold, the most impressive thing, there is a watch video for 1000 dollars, 1000 dollars, although back then it was a lot , it’s like now, i don’t know what it’s like now, 100,000 euros, but the song is not about that at all, he was one of the largest leaders there of the law enforcement department, the first deputy minister of internal affairs, and it is clear that according to the current scale there... this is not very serious money, but here the point is not how much, but here the point is how, if a person thought in principle, it is possible for oneself to take some kind of offering and not fulfill it or another, official action or
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, on the contrary, to do something, being stimulated by this offering, there by the same golden stool, this is actually... corruption, the country was destroyed by the conflict between brezhnev's favorites, between the heads of law enforcement agencies. andropov headed the state security committee and leonid brezhnev’s longtime front-line comrade nikolaikov headed the ministry of internal affairs and these two shcholokov and andropov , they fought among themselves, in this in this war they basically lived the country as a whole, because while they were measuring influence there conspired against each other, the country was sliding into the abyss.
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in fact, yuri andropov, this was the person who, according to the order, took boris buryat out in the first place, speculators, not the largest by soviet standards, but only because he was a person who knew the daughter of the general secretary well, they made him into such a villain, and... people in distress in andropovo, that is, the security officers who were engaged, firstly, they came up with all sorts of jokes, and secondly, they threw rumors into society, rumors about the power of this very boris distributed, as they call it, by specially trained people, in order to actually discredit... brezhnev, first
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of all, including yuri churbanov, although yuri mikhailovich himself told me that in november of the eighty-second year andropov invited him and said that so far i, that is, he, andropov is alive, nothing will happen to him and churbanov, churbanov held the post of first deputy minister of internal affairs, that is , he... andropov i don’t know what he was guided by, because i will repeat that he was at enmity with lye and naturally, he some claims and his people developed, churbanov, bypassing party instructions, because according to closed party instructions, it was forbidden to make, that is, it had
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a direct relation to churbanov, since he was the son of not just a member of the politburo, but the general secretary as the kss, that is, in violation of this closed instruction, they were in development, all the people related to galina brezhneva. and the claims that... found out that jewelry would be delivered to one or another jewelry store in moscow shipment of jewelry, she informed her friend about it, or i don’t know, or an accomplice, whatever you want to call it, boris, and he was driving in the morning to the opening of this store and... fell officially, that is, simply through the cash register, he bought at
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the official price of these stones, this is now very, perhaps, not very clear, but for those viewers who did not live in the soviet union and do not understand that the gap existed not only in discourse, but in prices, that is, there were some state , the so-called official prices, but there was a shortage, that is it was impossible to come to a jewelry store to buy... a ring there with two or three carats, because well, there weren’t any, it was a shortage, just as it was impossible to come to the fish department of a grocery store and buy caviar, although caviar was produced, and she they traded, in general, at the very least, everyone tasted it, but it was impossible to buy it, because everything was sold on the black market, not at the prices at which it could officially be bought in a store, it’s quite like that - the system was confused in this sense in short, these
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diamonds that were or jewelry were purchased at the official price in the store, again, that it was just a person who came, took it from the counter, went to the cash register there, that is, this was not done in any secret way, you just had to know which exactly the store, what day to come, this is such insider information, this is what it is called now , then these stones were sold and these jewelry at - a different price , two or three ends were made there, people called it, it was called actually speculation, these episodes are not in the case, because they are out of business, which initially... they were present in the criminal case, then they removed it, because galina leonidovna was still taken out of this blow, so i still, i believe, by the way, churbanov that andropov promised him not to persecute him, why, because just if we look at how events developed, churbanov retained
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his position as first deputy minister of internal affairs, even after the death of his father-in-law, the fact is that andropov was in power for a very short time, and with the death of andropov, when this began like this called the race on the glafet, with chernenko had already begun to put very hard pressure on churbanova, and this was done precisely by the department, andrupovskaya, that is, the security officers, actually we, that is, i mean journalists, were involved in the information war, before that it was impossible to imagine an information war in the soviet press, but from somewhere... that is, after mikhail sergevich gorbachev came to power , when glasnost was announced, including, among other things, this very glasnost, it also acquired the format of an information war, me and the person,
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who headed the investigation of this uzbek case, which almost turned into a kremlin case with telman glyan and nikolayomovich ivanov, was introduced to his deputy by dima likhanov, the same dima likhanov who lived in the same building with yuri mikhailovich churbanov, this is not connected in any way, just like that it coincided that likhanov was offered to do this business, but he was very , well, firstly, his dad, albert likhanov, he headed a children's fund, and secondly, dima worked in the ogonyok magazine for vitaly korotich, and in short, he had something to lose and he was the thought of me, even if i was younger, but the thought, i was such a fool, that is, he didn’t say that it was possible to fit into such a thing, and i was completely unaware of all the anxiety about how all this could end, i eagerly entered it, said, yes, super, excellent, very interesting, there is galina brezhneva, yuri cherbanov, yes, yes, yes, i
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will, i will do this, well, i want, so to speak, to consider that i was naive , although if you call a spade a spade. i was just stupid, because in a completely different way - all this could have unfolded and this story could have ended completely differently, both for the people from the prosecutor ’s office who were involved in this, and for those journalists whom they, let’s say, used, although i would like to console myself with the thought that the use it was mutual that we used the security forces, they used us in order to publicize this or that... information, because any publication in the soviet press, it instantly became a reason for dismissals, for some kind of action, because they believed what if it’s written, it’s been replicated, then it’s just a guide to action, the circulation was, by the way, colossal,
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the circulation of newspapers was colossal , there were only five or six of them, i don’t know, it’s true, komsomol truth, there’s work, well, actually, that’s it, that’s it, from such large publications, magazines, there was nothing at all, so firstly, i repeat, they had millions of copies in circulation, and secondly, there was a certain trust among readers in the printed word, it was believed that if something is written, then so it is, i remember there are publications, some kind, a note about a hundred lines after... which people there lost their posts, including ministerial ones, and about churbanov, and about brezhnev, no one actually wrote before me, they wrote in the west, of course, many of our compatriots, such as roy medvedev,
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who contacted me after these publications, some people who were called dissidents. they made publications, including in the russian-language press in the west, but in soviet publications, in soviet periodicals, of course, no one of these names mentioned, and when i published a whole page in moskovsky komsomolets about galina leonidovna brezhneva called kremlengate, and it simply quoted the testimony of galina leonidovna herself, and the testimony of churbanov’s assistants. then this is in general, well, there is such a cliche, journalistic, there is the effect of a bomb exploding, it was something like that, that is, it thundered so much. not to mention the fact that this was the first publication in soviet periodicals, where an entire newspaper page in a2 format was devoted to journalistic, author’s material, before that - the entire page
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were allocated only exclusively for the materials of one or another - the congress of the communist party of the soviet union. there is an important point - the next one, that uh, since it was not for nothing that they leaked it to me, relatively speaking, this is what they call it. it’s just that the investigators leaked these testimonies to me there, and not just like that, because after they were published in a million copies in the international red cross committee, it was no longer possible to remove these testimonies from the case and ignore them, because before that, in general, it could simply have been this or that call to say that we don’t need these testimonies, we just do them, you know, like when editing a film, we just cut out this episode, it doesn’t fit into the concept. therefore, the investigators, of course, wanted certain points to be finally included in the concept, so having already published these
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materials, they seemed to have such a term - which was used for artists, e lithuanian, that is, an artist who performed in the soviet union , it is any text, be it a song, a poem, it doesn’t matter, it was censored, this is a work, this text... it must be filled in, that is, there must be a corresponding stamp there. this is how these testimonies were read. naturally, people from other law enforcement agencies, they were interested in where the journalist actually got these materials. i said, yes, i found it. so here we go, this is a podcast chronicling the end times. today we are talking about people who were close to brezhneva, these publications, when i say that they had a resonance, i am not exaggerating at all, because right after the first
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report from the kremlengate series, people from western publishing houses contacted me, as a result, books were published there, including galina brezhneva - this is a book that was published in... already in our time, that is, in the post-soviet period, but they were published and books in the west as well, it turned out that in the soviet union a book called pyramid was published, the authors of which were me and telman , the investigator looked at it, and this is a book that talked about corruption in the soviet union, it was published by soviet publishing houses and the only name that was removed from this book by the publishers was the name of boris buryats, why?
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he was not an influential player, but he was a gypsy, as it turned out, no one wanted to deal with gypsies, not because there could be some kind of, i don’t know, ordered story, but because simply in all seriousness, as they explained to me publishers, they feared a curse. because it was believed that after boris, the puryan, as it is called, was accepted, that is, he was arrested and convicted, the gypsy community cursed those people who in their opinion, they were involved in this, all sorts of troubles began, well, up to criminal prosecution, they also meant galina brezhneva, yuri mikhailovich, i don’t know, i didn’t look into this issue, but they told me that... why do we need this gypsy curse it’s better to have a showdown with the kgb, there with the bandits, but not with the curse,
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as for yuri mikhailovich churbanov, he knew that his wife was friends with the son of the gypsy baron with the soloist of the bolshoi theater, zaboris, but he made it clear to me that well like whoever she was friends with, she had marie blind as friends, and she was friends with sladimir semyonovich vysotsky, and i asked directly that you, yuri mikhailovich, read that there was nothing there that could awaken you mavro, atelo, that is, there was nothing to be jealous of, to which he was irritated, said that ggali, he said he had affairs only with your brother, and he meant that she had a serious relationship there with a couple of journalists from the ap , and with everyone else. she was just hanging out because well, she generally liked bohemia, her first husband was milaev, a circus performer, her second husband, igor kio, a famous representative.
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church dynasty, let me remind you that she fell in love with a young and promising artist, they just got married officially, and uh, when they went on their honeymoon to sochi, what i call specially trained people arrived there and simply took away their passports the young people then handed them new passports, which no longer had this stamp, it is clear that leonid ilyevich brezhnev. as a leader state, he wanted to somehow minimize the damage, relatively speaking, reputational damage, but the methods by which this was done actually showed the weakness of the administrative-command system, and, by the way, showed his weakness, including as a parent, as a father , who simply cannot establish a relationship with his own daughter , by the way, that is why, when galina leonidovna
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met yuevich... who already had the rank of mayor at that time, that is, a handsome, stately officer appeared in the family, he after, of course, the circus, leonid brezhnev, was glad that, as he believed, gala came to her senses, but gala did not come to her senses for long, the love passed , the tomatoes withered, so she again rushed into various adventures, including with boris, leonidovna divorced chump while he was in conclusion, such an option is provided by law, in my opinion to this day, that if a person is convicted, then his consent to divorce is not required, and in the case materials, including those that i published in the mcc in other newspapers, there are her assistants and people
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from relatively speaking, i don’t put anything derogatory into this term from the servants, they said that she tried in every possible way to wrest property from her ex -husband at that time, all the property that he could lay claim to, i went with my colleagues, documentarians to colony number 13, in nizhny tagil, there was a colony for party workers. security forces, i actually started this whole thing in order to talk to churban after the fact, after the negotiations, he was naturally not happy - our meeting, he was extremely laconic, and i then made a very interesting discovery for myself that the camp authorities, in general, were also, well, relatively speaking, on the side of churbanov, that is, they...
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sympathized with him, that is, in in the eyes of all the people from the system, from, well, let’s say, those whom he calls the security forces, ah, he was a victim, he was a victim, among other things, of journalistic pressure, and there are very contradictory assessments of his own activities in the ministry of internal affairs, many from the people on the topic they say that he is something there really, in general somehow... he did, he didn’t give the impression of a person who could work on something, he gave the impression of a person who really likes to relax and enjoy life, and again he didn’t look like an intrigue . boris buryat told me, at that meeting , within the walls of the prosecutor general's office of the soviet union, that he said that they would kill me, i don’t know how sincere he was, he said that he was afraid
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of freedom, that when he was free, they would kill him, after his release , after some time he is very he quickly got pedicitis on the surgeon’s table and during this operation to remove pedicitis he died, and as doctors say, the operation is generally very simple, but all sorts of things happen, naturally, a supporter of a conspiracy theory, how comfortable it is to think that it’s simple - they killed him on this operating table, and i myself think so, in order to hang a lot of very serious cases on him later, yuri mikhailovichnov, after his release, actually did not communicate with galina leonidovna, he married for the third time, the first marriage was on tour, when we were neighbors, he had an official marriage, in his third marriage they say that he was happy, he simply died of a stroke, that is
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, from... i think that to a large extent, of course, this whole story undermined him, was boris buryatan guilty of his death, well, maybe indirectly, only as a person who... spoiled his nerves a lot, in fact, if they had not met galya brezhneva at one time, maybe they would have lived longer and would have lived happily, but who knows, for sure it was a podcast chronicle of the end of times, my name is evgeniy dodolev, there will be other stories further. hello, this is the psyche podcast and we continue to explore the depths of our underwater psychological worlds. the topic
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of today's podcast is no coincidence, because october is breast cancer awareness month . we will certainly defeat cancer, well, in every sense, we will defeat it and in general we will defeat it. but sometimes it is very difficult to believe it at the moment when you find out about your diagnosis, about how to survive cancer, about how to stay healthy, full of strength, energy and normal psyche, today we will talk about the heroine who is undergoing treatment right now, hello, yulia, hello, with my colleague, a colleague in many ways, we will talk about this in a little more detail, this is anna tarubarova, journalist, oncologist and cancer educator, hello anna, as i understand it, you knew each other online , yes, that is, you, yulia, subscribed to anna as a science blogger, now you
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’ve seen each other for the first time, the first time, and the first time i’ve heard yulia’s voice, usually i have everything ideas about girls solely based on correspondence, when i found out about my diagnosis, i immediately began to look for a person who had gone through a similar path, i found anna, she seemed very beautiful and strong to me, so i decided to write to her asking for help, i defeated my cancer more than 20 years ago, and my remission, thank god, has lasted for many, many years, although it should not have lasted so long and i should have been sitting here with you, but nevertheless, when - my doctor, who was not just an oncologist, but also an oncological psychologist, and then this was...' a great rarity told me that you know, 10% depends on me, well, on her, as a doctor, and 90% is your attitude. that’s why i would like to conduct our conversation today in this way, not just you know
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, in this positive way, everything will be fine , the three of us know that this path, it’s so difficult, let’s be honest, it happens in different ways, and it happens in different ways, but let's talk about those different fears through which, for the patient, and his relative, and society, here is the number one fear, it seems to me, the most important, which prevents us very much from being healthy, this is the fear of well potential hypothetical diagnosis, being afraid to say the word cancer, yes , a three-letter word, this is also such a super stereotype, so we need to say cancer, if we don’t, we’ll pronounce it like... not words that have already taken root in our lives, and therefore, i think that the taboo should be removed from this word, it seems to me that in general the taboo from oncology should be removed, so the more people, those who actually survived this disease,
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will help other people and, well , you know how little good one, like one did it, another did it, a third did it, you won’t notice how it will become normal and not in the sense that the disease is normal, but help. why did i think so, because well, what do you see, hollywood films, the main character dies of cancer, and you watch, by the way, i can say now that i watch these films with such a feeling, you know, i close my eyes like this , yes, because well , every time, time after time, either he dies of cancer, or she dies of cancer, and this is certain, this is it. this is a bald head this wildest weight, you know all this , this cocoon of some kind of sinisterness is growing around this, and people watch it, it’s kind of like a movie, yes, it can even end well, but it
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’s delayed in their subcortex that cancer is bald heads, death, suffering, pain, horror, and there is no cure, that is, well, since this is an american film, accordingly, well, if there, no matter how she was cured, here - of course not... cancer phobia in society simply has some off-scale boundaries, have you ever thought about this, anna, that is , a person does not go to get examined because he is afraid to find out if he has something there. he’s not even a diagnostician, you know, as if he’s expecting something bad, and thereby delays the start of treatment , if there is one, yes, that’s what we basically have to fight with, and when i personally made a coming-ay i said about that i had a diagnosis on social networks, i was in no hurry with it, i probably had some kind of journalistic approach, first of all, because after the diagnosis i spent about a month looking for
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i’m not telling you that oh, karau, something so terrible happened to me, no, but i did coming out primarily to tell people that this happens, and that now you and i will be together to go through this path, people knew me there as a journalist , as a mother, as a traveler, this story happens to me, here we see you, yes, this is apparently the period of chemistry, yes, this is already, when the chemistry is completed, this is the period of kiwi , this is what i call this period, this is the beginning of chemotherapy, here i am fresher, here i i like that i’m so bald, fashionable, but, in fact, i wasn’t worried about my baldness, and why i decided to tell, so that people would go get examined, because i was the person who didn’t even have an idea that it turns out that you need to do an ultrasound, it turns out that there are mutations that are congenital, that cancer is not an insult to men, yes, a very popular story, if? you have breast cancer on this right side, the first
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thing he writes to you is that you are probably offended by some man, and here there is an offense at this, this is a popular interpretation of psychomatic various evidence-based concepts, when because here we can’t just, you know, take now to zero out the entire layer of science , which also talks about the stressful - nature of some oncological diseases, but how our people interpret, yes, this is of course a separate story with this, i can directly cover with an ace and say: i was born with a mutation, which means that i have an eighty percent chance of getting cancer, everything is like mine, sisters, mutant sisters, well, look, on the one hand, there is a person’s fear of what he may get sick, and he is afraid to find out the diagnosis, and another option, cancer phobia is the cancer phobia of society, now there is no such mystical horror.
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from society in front of a cancer patient, that is, if 20 years ago you were told in all seriousness, listen, well, somehow you’re already in remission, when you go to get a job, please don’t say that you had cancer, you’ll get married, don’t say , not to my husband, god forbid a relative, but what a truth this is, what a nightmare when you ask why he says something like that, well, there are no arguments, but some kind of internal means such... obstacles, but what does it look like now? now, for example, one of my good friends, who is undergoing treatment, chemotherapy, quite long for a brain tumor, right in the midst of treatment between the third and fourth chemotherapy , gets a job in our largest russian bank in a fairly good position, and its managers are absolutely loyal besides, he misses, he takes some kind of
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short leave, a few days, to undergo chemotherapy, and moreover, that’s how i i understand, he is such a, you know, well, role model, or something, for those around you, you know, natalya, you said that your remission has lasted for more than 20 years, these words have already given millions of people hope, and i’m sure those who cling to the screen, and those who cling. to the screens, they put this notch in their heads, those who are now undergoing treatment, because i am in various chats about breast cancer, and there periodically there are searches for those who survived, yes, these same survivors, and where are the people who they lived there for more than 5 years, and these people just live, let's talk about your story , the first days, the first week, at that time i went to the gym to work out, that day i set a bench press record, i pressed 150 kg
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despite my fragile build , it was hard, but i was so happy that i put some kind of new mark of my own, i felt great, in the shower at the gym i felt under my arm, on the left , a certain ball, for some reason i was at that moment, as if just like i got an electric shock, well then yes, i immediately realized that this was something wrong, that it shouldn’t be here. examination, unfortunately, at that time i... had not encountered doctors in everyday life, well , that is, i didn’t have anything more serious there, so i didn’t go to a regular hospital, but to a paid one, and there was a therapist who examined me , having prescribed a bunch of tests for me there, an ultrasound, right away somehow, it seems to me that it was clear from his face that something
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was wrong, because he looked at me, well, with pity, with some even, well, with some kind of... then, i was constantly told such words that everything it will be fine, the main thing is don’t worry, now everything is being treated, and somehow i initially began to understand that this is some kind of complicated story, not just inflammation, on february 28 they told me at the ultrasound that yes it is, they told you right away, yes, they told me that it was very likely cancer, and that it had spread beyond the breast, and that’s actually the ball that i felt in my armpits - it’s a metastasis. what was the first reaction, it was a shock, it was the opposite of mobilization, maybe i thought to myself that i would cry, if only it was as if they had told me this situation a little in advance and this is how you would react, i would probably say that i would cry, no, nothing like that happened, i was just very scared, well, inside myself, as it were, but at
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the same time with outwardly, i didn’t give in at all that something bad was happening, moreover , my husband and i didn’t tell my parents, because we decided to get to the point of treatment, that is, when they will prescribe the treatment itself, then tell them, i believe that this is the right strategy, because this period, this is actually the most difficult period psychologically, it seems to me, i don’t know how you will confirm or deny, from the moment of diagnosis to the start of treatment, yes, this happened to me, to many of those with whom i am familiar and i advise: those people who have just found out about the diagnosis , i just go through this period a lot - with such acquaintances, with such clients, and this period, it is the most fragile, because you seem to be unbalanced, you you don’t understand what will happen, it’s the unknown,
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this is the absence of some kind of plan, this is the absence of fighting tactics, as if you are doing nothing, but time is passing. in my electronic card, so i had to live until the next day to talk with the doctor, and i remember the night i lie and think, so i’m not doing anything, so you said, but there’s shock or mobilization, i had complete mobilization, i need to act, i need a plan, i probably calmed down, not when i started treatment, but when i...' the doctor said the words, i grabbed her stella fedorovna by the hands and said: tell me honestly, is this treatable? she says: “anya, it can be treated and it can be treated well,” and i exhaled. bison, the case of the fashion model, final episodes on monday tuesday, on the first. the europeans, a few months ago
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, started saying that it is super important that africa is on our side, that. in africa , let me do this, ask for money. denmark is not the largest country in the world, we cannot make important decisions. we want to provide maximum support to ukraine. we cannot make important decisions, so we support ukraine. i'll be with you frank. we are talking about tunisia, for example, it did not even receive one euro. pinched. yes. everything went to ukraine. she doesn't even understand who is talking to her. she thought banderas is such an actor. they say we will take what is ours. this is programmed chaos on the streets of europe. how to make hundreds of millions of people commit suicide. did the americans succeed? show vavan and lexus. premiere. on wednesday on the first. this is a psychic podcast. my name is natalia loseveva and today we are talking about cancer. another very
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important point that distinguishes in my opinion view, psychology, management of cancer patients. modern and what happened 20-30 years ago, you maybe even girls, you don’t know this, before, in most cases the patient was not told that he had cancer, that’s true, that’s true , yes, you would it’s easier, anna, even if you didn’t know your diagnosis, you would be treated there for inflammation, in which case, no, i want to know everything about myself, i trust the doctor, there is a professional who takes the reins, and i believe that on i work with my illness as an equal with a doctor. that is, there are three of us, a doctor, the patient is a disease, like this, this is how the three of us are sitting, this is roughly what it looks like, this is a team, and well, this random guy came in. in order to somehow change your life, because life does change , and you spend some time there with her, then say bye, and for my tumor, for example, i even
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gave a name, my friend came up with it, yes, yes, yes, zina, zina, go away , i don’t want to offend anyone whose name is zinaida, it ’s quite a rare name, but for some reason we gave it that name, i wonder what it’s like for you it was, that is, somehow you are here, and i am now. i remembered that there really is such a technique when you embody this thing of yours, well, any disease, in fact , not necessarily a tumor, so you somehow try to either come to an agreement with it, or strictly order yourself to leave, my brain seems to me , turned on some kind of mode to save the main organ, which is located here in the cranium, this is exactly my mind, and at the moment of diagnosis, this was the most... the worst thing, i will also say, exactly because of the uncertainty that existed, and these were holidays, it was march 8th, you know, all the girls go, congratulate each other on
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the holiday, give each other flowers, they all exchange some kind of congratulations, july is sitting on the phone so in the kitchen, and it’s just like everyone sends me congratulations, and i answer , but it seems so nightmarishly terrible to me, because i answer insincerely, because my, my head is occupied at the moment with something else altogether, and my brain, it did this thing, it turned off this one, this one, this one area of the disease, that is, i can say that right now i can’t even remember what i felt in this area of the chest, as if i didn’t have it, that is, there is a head and what is a little below the chest, everything else , this is how it is, but we are doing this, there is a doctor doing this, tests, as it were, i ’m trying not to think about it now, because in the very first days my mistake was that i... lay and thought, like it grows in me, while i do nothing, they don’t give me any medicine, nothing is clear, what
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this is what type of tumor it is, nothing is clear, and it is growing and it is unclear at what speed , that is, i am inactive, roughly speaking, it takes over me, these aliens take over me, and i can’t do anything, and then i calmed down and decided , well, come on there, live for now, that today i opened our correspondence with yulia, and the girls find me... through different social networks and yulia wrote me a very touching message that anya, you are the only person i can trust, of course, such responsibility falls when you read such messages, and i i remember your wording that it seems to me that i won’t live until the morning, yes, almost every second message contains this wording, the girls seem to be captivated, well, for example, i’m an example of a person who discovered some kind of pea in january, but ... it only started in july, but nothing so bad happened to me during this period, i’m calm that this is actually not a very good
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tactic, and therefore it’s not a good tactic in terms of the fact that i didn’t have an understanding of how act, that is, well, i went there to i had an ultrasound, it seemed like it was no big deal, i had a period of searching for doctors, yes, who were wary and who referred me, but don’t, as they say, the sleep of the mind draws monsters, you won’t die overnight, yes, here i would also like to agree and emphasize that you shouldn’t think that you’re dying right now, that is, and you think that right now another 20 minutes, then he’ll capture, i don’t know, your heart it will stop and you will die, this is not so, you just need to gather your courage, with thoughts to start acting, that’s what is important to emphasize, not to be inactive, but to act, but with your head turned on, how calmly, as it were, when you started to act? as soon as it was confirmed to me by biopsy that it was cancer, and accordingly, the lymph node
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