[000:00:00;00] that's criterion number one, that's the most important thing, that's how things are, and i think the rest of the world really needs to understand what's really going on here in the relationship between the us and china, thank you, as you well know, when we discuss now, the problems peace, problems of diplomacy, including between china and the united states, stubborn battles are being waged not only in ukraine, but in the middle east, israel is bombing and storming gaza, and this happens after the hamas organization attacked gaza, but very painful a strike on israel also with heavy

casualties, including among civilians. as i understand it, china and russia, in general, had quite similar positions on this issue in the united nations, but more broadly, how does china see the possibility of resolving this crisis, since the crisis around palestine has been going on for many decades, is it possible to hope to resolve it ? in foreseeable future? it seems to me that china’s special representative to the un made several important statements on this issue, china took a very clear position, in fact, as you just said, china's position is in many ways similar to russia's, we believe that resolutions need to be implemented, and

two-state solutions need to be implemented. there must be two states, the state of israel and the palestinian state side by side. without this, it will be impossible to end this conflict. china, of course, is not a party to this conflict, but nevertheless, china is an important player in the international arena, so i believe that it is important for china to speak out on this issue and indicate its position. and last resolution. the un, which was adopted just the other day, everything is clearly stated there, so i personally really hope that the middle east crisis, the gas crisis, will stop in the very near future, well, we also hope for this, although, as they say in such cases, hopes young men nourish, and i have not been at this age

for a long time, but on the other hand, if you don’t... work, then definitely not only will your hopes not come true, but most likely there will be sad consequences, so we all agree that that path, which the leaders of china followed and russia, this is the only way that makes sense - in this very difficult situation. thank you very much for your opinion and your time, we hope to see you again soon. on our air, it was a big game

, we will meet tomorrow on the air, the power of memory, something terrifying, is in the diversity of its countless depths, as avreli augustine wrote in his famous confession. hello, today we have gathered our thoughts about memory, about its secrets and mysteries. dmitry petrovich bak, literature specialist, candidate of philological sciences, evgeniy germanovich vodolaskin, writer, doctor of philology. friends, i am very glad to see you. mutually, with whom, if not with you , to talk about, about such a topic, and you know, i want, so i have such a pre-question, perhaps, a warm-up, memory - is it more about hope or curse? evgeniy germanovich, well, memory is something that you often want to get rid of, uh, in fact it is, sometimes you want to forget

many things, therefore, in some way there is a trace of the curse, but memory, it gives hope in that sense what if it's good memory, a good memory, then they give...' hope, something will happen again, petrovich , what do you think, you know, after all, i would put hope in the foreground, because well, we know, yes, the curse of the family, which can weigh down, hang, put pressure on itself, it definitely exists, yes, because the golden age gives way to the silver age, and then all the way to the iron age, but nothing good happens to the world, therefore, memory always speaks of a curse, but on the other hand on the other hand, memory speaks of the best precisely... because the past happy - this is childhood, for example, it almost always has a shade of happiness of a sinless, transparent existence, and the more you remember, the more you hope that at every moment you live in your fullness, and not in the

incompleteness that seems right to you in the bustle , i’m just now, when evgenia gernovich , you said that sometimes you want to get rid of something, but i thought, i remembered, or rather the thought, not my thought, about what what is confession? this is a cry to god, lord, don’t remember me like this, that is, don’t remember me, those committing this act: forget, yes, well, it’s funny to ask god to forget something, but that’s the whole idea, well, not repentance, but repentance is probably based, no, moreover, i believe that repentance, confession - this is overcoming time, you return to the time before the sin, as it were, because... this sin is washed away, it goes away, the only difference is this: you return to the previous time, but with the memory of sin, this is already a hint of the absence

of time , on the absence of before and after, and there is simply repentant sin, and - maybe the desire to prevent it from happening again, it is washed away, but the scars remain, the scars remain, well, the famous line of pushkin, but there are options for sad or shameful lines, they are not washed away, yes, this is a very important story, because even if you want to get rid of the memory, i am with my wife i agree, then the work is not to get rid of it, but to understand that this is given for something, well, because the oil of testing superpowers, we understand perfectly well, even if it is a bad memory, a memory of a sinful state of soul or action, but it is given not in order to be equal to it, memory is what makes us unequal to ourselves in the best sense, look how natural now then let’s move on to the actual meaningful part of the concept, equal, unequal, yuri mikhailovich lotman spoke about that,

that man is memory and culture is memory. i always tell students that you don’t need a lot of evidence to justify this, imagine saying that you wake up tomorrow and don’t remember anything, yes, what you don’t remember? there is no such thing, that is , it turns out that memory is a culture-forming phenomenon, excuse the involuntary academicism, and a person-forming phenomenon, and the question then is, is a person identical to memory or forgetting or not? there is wisdom unburdened by knowledge, this is someone who dealt with wise old people in old age and a person sometimes does not remember any specific things, but at the same time he... he is absolutely error-free in his choice, although he cannot justify it in any way, it may be that this is what tolstoy meant when

he said that when a person leaves for another world, he takes away with me memory, but memory not about specific events, but memory as a certain sum of ideas of good and evil, here is a certain extract that already exists in isolation from specific events, that is... 'the memory of an old man is the memory of a child, i'm leading in the wrong direction that a person falls into childhood at some point, i mean it more in this sense, we are approaching our beginning, so this is the same empty memory as in childhood, but only after, with experience, experience does not disappear anywhere, extremely interesting, to be honest, at the beginning when you said unburdened... i grinned, because i had another associative series, yes, that you have a lot of wisdom, a lot of sadness, i thought that you were talking about this, but you are talking about something completely different, yes, about wisdom, which is filled with sadness,

probably in some sense, yes, but now he can afford to not remember some individual episodes, yes, yes, absolutely right, i don’t know the etymology, but i’ll be such a preobrazhensky or fastmer improviser, it seems to me that this comes from the word to have, to take memory, right? she is always selective, you can’t remember everything, and zhenya is absolutely right and wise here, yes, that is , we are not talking about some details, episodes, they can also be remembered, but it is important that memory constructs itself. yes, i will return my previous thought, it changes me, but a person’s task is to remember himself as correct , besides, well, that’s all, but what is it to remember for himself great, you know, a person very often still records different moments in his life, especially a believer, he thinks about how to preserve the main thing for himself, what is correct in a moral sense, again to what we are talking about they said, it happens, yes, to catch yourself correctly, in life there are different things, there are delusions, there are sins, but it is important to catch and construct. to see the right thing about myself, because i am the same boy

who hid under the blanket from his mother and read books, i am the same boy who will not be a boy, but someday will die at this moment, like all of us, yes, but it’s important to remember yourself correctly, this is acceptable at any moment, in youth, in old age, absolutely true, we said, by the way, before the start of the program adante, he has an amazing plot, i’m not sure that he is found anywhere else in this form, he has two rivers, leta and eevnoe, summer is a river that washes away bad memories, then a person moves to evnoe , which is nearby, in general flows, it consolidates the good, this is a good mind , yes, if i organize it correctly, again, well, yes , well right away, yes, this is probably the case, maybe this is the system, it should be like this work, who knows, dante, in general, was not such a

specifically spiritual authority, but she herself the thought about this, uh, is very close to me, because even the idea of ​​hell , there is this opinion that hell is the impossibility of getting away from bad memories, that when you see all the beauty of paradise, then at that moment you... i feel incredibly ashamed of myself, this memory , it burns, maybe this is it, well, this is what chagin suffers from in your one-story novel, yes, that is, this is actually it, i perceived it as an experience of hellish torment, yes , he does not know how to forget, he cannot forget his betrayal, this is really so, absolutely true, he either like judas must hang himself, but either that or repent, so he repents and... the eternity of this repentance allows him to come up with a new

odissi poem, in which he gives his new life, i am far from convincing the reader that one must simply rewrite, no, you need to repent , and then as such a gift , maybe, maybe, i’m not saying, it’s more of a question, can you get away from bad memories, stay with good ones before death. today we gathered our thoughts about memory, its secrets and mysteries. dmitriy petrovich bak, evgeniy germanovich vodolaskin, i’m vladimir ligoida, let’s continue. but look, memory is not only that we forget something, but that we remember something. by and large, augustine writes about this, he says that this is such a palace in which memories are stored, which are either an understatement or an exaggeration, in

any case, in a narrow sense, a little narrower, then the question is about the value of memoirs as historical documents , because in general, what are memoirs, this is the memory of an individual person, and the memoirs of another contemporary about the same events will be different. how to perceive this? well, if you allow me, i would still start with forgetting, so that this topic does not disappear, because in this earthly vale we are always faced with the realization that we have to forget, yes, something completely different, yes, and i keep repeating the quatrain of my beloved georgy ivanov, if a new life, oh soul , opens in a black grave, how good it must be so that we forget about the earthly one, yeah. that is, this moment of possible forgetting

of what seems valuable is always present in the face of, well, some other memory, this is not a memoir, of course, a memoir, this is a personal experience, yes, yes, well, a memoir, this is, naturally, memory, but it is such, memory is very, truly selective and special, this no, not what was on... actually in quotes, because the thing itself is the most mysterious point in general, by the way, even at the stage. here we are sitting, the three of us, and we see completely different things, it’s not even the fact that we are sent there, everything is completely different, because here is a wonderful neurophysiologist,

alexander yakovich, kaplan, when i consulted with him, about roman chagin , he said that even at the stage of vision, vision is not optics, it’s the brain, right at the entrance it’s a very special picture, and how is it then everything is in the memory, what changes it undergoes, this is only in general, one can be surprised, that is, memory, it is completely different things. stores, it’s not like five cameras cost five identical pictures to take, that’s a completely different story, and memoirists need to, well, at least be checked, well, yes, if we want historical, i just know

, i was thinking about something else, this is where the bridge is thrown, to the topic of imaginary memories, not just interpretations, again in chagin there is this nikolai ivanovich, and this story about a business trip... to britannia. , i’ll be honest, i still want to think that this is not true, when in the end i think that he came up with it all, i don’t like it, i will assume that this is what happened, but in fact, here is another kaplan, ours, a wonderful author from thomas, in his article he started, but he wrote that he was like the mathematician immediately remembered complex numbers, parts of which are imaginary quantities, but the meaning is that this creates a kind of three-dimensional vision, and then you know, i immediately start thinking further and remember: lotman, who says that art is the experience of the unlived, the most important human experience , it turns out that the imaginary memories of any person, they allow him to be a creator in some sense, more than he is, more than in reality, that is, it is almost art, yes, that is, art without art, no, well, it realizes herself very differently, anna

karenina, for example, anna karenina, i am convinced that everything that happened to her stems from the desire that she experiences when opening a book. in the carriage at the very beginning, when she goes to reconcile steve with his wife and there she meets vronsky, rides with her mother, meets vronsky himself, she so wanted to live the lives of all the heroes, yes, that’s the whole point, i think the reader does too feels the most, as a child i so wanted onegin not to kill lensky, when i re-read it, but suddenly he won’t kill, i thought, then is it generally fiction, this is, in principle, the law of art, when you perceive art , you think that it... in general, memoirs are reliable not in the sense that they correspond to some kind of case itself, as zhenya put it, they correspond to your conviction , your rightness, there is no rightness, remember the paintings of picasso or picasso, how convenient it is to say where dora maar has two noses, yes, because he wants to see her

immediately profile and full face, and we see each other full face, but there is also other sides, therefore any memoirist is sacredly... convinced that that he writes the truth, even if he wants to deliberately distort it, like zhorzhik ivanov in st. petersburg winters, in a word, for me , in memoirs, the most valuable thing is subjective, yes, kotaev’s in the grass of oblivion, he describes it there, how he considers friendship with bunin, that’s why bunin asked him something all the time, well, mayakovsky asked him, and bunin. in the damned days, and for him, the only phrase is completely destructive, i don’t want to repeat it, that he would have sold everyone, including there, if they had paid, here are the memoirs of two people, and about specific ones, they do not

contradict each other, are these two truths? both are true, but solomon’s court, it’s like... it’s impossible to say, but what he sold or didn’t sell is not the question, well, yes, but it’s just surprising, so to speak, the range of opinions, well, yes, although here you know , i involuntarily remember this famous buddhist parable, about five or how many four blind men who approached an elephant, from different sides, and one, that means, who cares, he is absolutely right, he says that it is a snake or a wall, a rope, yes , memory is always like this, it cannot embrace everything at once, this volumetric vision, vision , in general, this is our aparatik, we do not see infrared, ultraviolet, a bat sees, so what about experience, that’s actually me. i have always been fascinated by the fate of an actor, a great actor who really, if

he takes his work deeply and seriously, then he can actually live several lives and can live them with full dedication, this is a colossal experience, if done correctly come up, but it’s not a reading that requires an actor, but a complete one, she might lead us a little now, yes, but maybe we ’ll stop for a second, because we have to live, not live, there according to the system, not according to the system, again nikita sergeevich mikhalkov said when he had one phrase in mordyukov’s family: oh you, 40 takes, 40, and he says that if you approach her, she plays so hard that an ambulance takes her away every time, that is, he says, it’s just a mistake profession, yes, that is , the actor must be able to instantly switch off somehow. because otherwise it's these experiences, they

are already on the verge of schizophrenia, no? as stanislavsky says, and since i teach at the amhat, i really love konstantin sergeevich, he says a simple thing, that you can’t play anything, you can only grow, develop something in yourself, it must be your true emotion, but you need to find it in something in life that leads to this emotion and to make it your own, to appropriate it, and this is scary, of course, on the one hand it’s not... somewhat life, on the other hand it’s like an authority, still a distance, it shouldn’t be, no, i’ve been teaching acting for many years, so i keep emulating this all the time , i won’t, i won’t argue with you, i will make you the most influential revolutionary of our time, but this is not forever, the struggle for power is essentially a struggle for a woman, i myself decide who i will belong to, don’t you regret it? i never regret anything, they almost killed your daughter, i did it by name, trutsky, from

november 1, on the first, сnop gin, a product of the stellar group, today we gathered with thoughts about memory, dmitry petrovich bak, eugene germanovich vodolaskin. we continue, i keep trying to explain to the students why memory is needed, they say, well, it’s still there, well, now we can say that they will turn off the internet, before they said they won’t turn it off, now we understand that they can also have electricity for a while it may disappear, yes, but i really liked it, tatya vladimevna chernigovskaya and i talked once on this topic, and i said, well, what is memory for knowledge, for education, she says, but memory is not about remembering information that is not knowledge, but this is about contexts, associations, and this, if you don’t have this on your shelves, yes, then it is very difficult to assemble this mosaic

of knowledge, as this thesis resonates with you, of course, this, complex existence or existence in context, it is necessary, because, well, let’s say, if you raise a person in the sans souci palace, surrounding him with a wall, then nothing good will come of it, by the way, a wonderful novel by alexei varlamov, my soul pavel, that’s about it, that’s the same model, there’s a huge problem here, how many things, artistic ones are based on the fact that something... is hidden from someone so that he does not know, does not remember, most often these are all unsuccessful attempts,

here is memory, it is certainly contextual, for example, when i remember something, i often i don’t even remember exactly what was said, but i remember where with what facial expression, this is such synesthesia, or i remember what it smelled like at that moment. let’s say it smelled like sleepers at the station, the memory is olfactory, it is one of the strongest, it is believed, i remember, dmitry sergevich likhachev said that from childhood he remembers the smell of heated boxwood, uh, crimean smell, and he says, when i am now an old man, i hear this smell, my mood immediately improves, memory is not information that can be done like that. to state in three pages, memory is the whole totality, this is the world of god, as

it appears every moment, but in all its completeness, therefore, in fact, this has always excited me, so i tried to describe it, the way it comes, not as information, insight into something, but in all of these, for example, if a child is lying in bed, then he sees drawings on both, he drives with his finger on these drawings, while his grandmother reads robinson cruz to him, that’s all. connected in the world, this is what kharms talks about, remember, everyone goes on trams and doesn’t know how everyone is connected to each other, but we must remember this, well, we heard a wonderful essay, and from the lips of evgeniy vadolaskin - this is just a fragment from a novel, but i don’t want an essay, but this kind of gelertor thesis, vladimir ramanovich, you asked a little

about something else, that’s how it is, yes, this is ignorance, because my two favorite examples, evgeniy borisovich, parsnips, i have it with me twice said that his father said that if the gospel had the power of mathematics, then there would be no evil in the world, well, because no person, believer, non-believer, atheist, buddhist, whatever, can say that he does not distinguish where good, where there is evil, in the gospel, well, it’s clear, it’s clear, like twice two, like a theorem, but nevertheless the world is near, so some more effort is needed, identification with you, i remembered the phrase for the rest of my life... memoirs alexey fevrovich losyev, she is like that, i know her from memory, when i first learned that the sum of angles triangle is equal to two right angles, i realized that from now on, this is my truth, mine and no one else will take it away from me, you see, this moment is missing, yes, newton’s law, it came to newton as the insight that he is understood at that moment, and things were falling with the acceleration of free fall, and before he formulated it, this device that we all have in our pockets, it

accustoms us to something else, yes, that there is just a naked one. i spied the memory and it was as if you appropriated it, nothing like that, it needs to be done to your own, to appropriate through a hyphen, but still, in your example from the gospel, it seems to me that another difference is that scientific knowledge is, well, if you like, violent, yes, i found out that 2.2, and if i if i argue with this, then maybe they will take me, but only to kashchenko , dostoevsky says 2:2 besides me there will be not dostoevsky, but an underground man, yes, yes, that’s knowledge, let’s say, that’s the connection now with the gospel... but us this thing sets up that it requires almost nothing of this effort, yes, well, since i noticed it, i tell the students, what 40 years ago it was like to do, if you don’t remember where the line of a poem comes from, he tells me, they go to the library, and that you go to the girls at the checkout, where the line comes from, the turbulent years went by, how to find out, well, by the way, you

know, i’m talking about i also wanted to talk to these memory stealers, because look, we started with the fact that culture is a collective memory, yes, and a person is an individual memory, but what happens is that it may be too bold a generalization, although in essence i it seems true, any information revolution, it gives serious the growth of collective memory, the invention of writing and printing begins, and it always hits the individual, but the iliad of the odyssey arises in oral culture , the need disappears, individual memory decreases, i had a classmate whom evgeniy onegino knew by heart, could continue from any moment, and we perceived him as an epic hero, although probably for the ancient greeks he was , well, what’s there to remember, but individual memory, well, we can’t do anything about it, yes, this is such an insoluble story that collective memory with the help of that, it is somehow still, well, more or less

insoluble, because a person, of course , lives a short life, it takes him some... period in order to get involved in this humming collective creativity , yes, universal, so he gets an education, he turns on, turns on, as soon as he turns on, he already has to think about the eternal, so, well, yes, here ’s the thing, personal memory , historical memory, in fact, a person is 90 percent formed by personal memory and, personal... experienced, here is historical memory , it enters into it, like some small 10%, the prehistory of its existence, they are the most important, but for the formation of a person as a spiritual phenomenon, what is important, first of all, is personal, personal memory, here , ah, this is like

some preface is also connected. this is this instead of a meeting and individually. yes, but this is something that ultimately becomes one’s own, it is so absorbed by a person that it passes on, this too, it must be said, is a special phenomenon when something moves from the sphere of abstract knowledge into your personal history, i just remember myself, some things, they became facts of my life, for example, ups and downs with dickins’s characters, it was me, and this is inseparable from me, this is what

a person appropriates himself , masters, makes it his own, it moves from the category of general historical memory to the category of personal, it really is, you know, but now a thought just occurred to me, maybe it’s quite immature, but it seems to me that in some sense, collective memory or here there, what belongs to the background knowledge, in a sense, can... change faster than individual knowledge, maybe i’m wrong, but now i thought, they left our background context, for example, ilf and petrov, well, here i am with the students, when i’m trying to say that i once said that your answers remind me of how shura balaganov boykono monotonously recounted the contents of the brochure myatesh on ochakova, i thought that the answer would be a friendly laugh, but the answer was such perplexed looks , that's what you're talking about yes, it remains in my individual memory, that is, the collective in this sense has changed faster than not, a large volume, because there are as many seconds in a day as 2,000 years ago, yes, there are a lot of carriers fighting for us, not only ilf petrov,

but trifonov disappeared, for example, i don’t make any comparison between trifonov and elf petrov, but galich disappeared, galich disappeared, but there is no person who doesn’t have trifonov or makanin in his head, well, here’s another one, when i tell students, what is this, well, a classic, well, absolute a classic of a certain time, vladimir simyonovich makanen, this name does not exist at all, because. as if we are accustomed to the fact that literature, art and in general our life exists according to the principle of the media, according to the principle of the information occasion, what is remembered is what seems to catch, as the younger generation says, and what does not catch goes away, yes, indeed, and this is such a serious story, well, some kind of unconditional classic , if i may say so, it still remains, for me in some sense it is still an example of greatness, or something like a work, yes, because sometimes it would be better not to remain, my famous question: i ask a student, is pushkin a genius? but why? i can't say, right? and just like ulato, you love pushkin, so you become enraged, yes, i immediately begin to tell you why zhenya

could also have confidence, why i cannot live without him, yes, but something that is absolutized on the tablets is written down forcibly, it disappears, yes, an absolutely amazing story, i sometimes read fragments of chagin, in public, and there i have a story about lenin and pechnyak, texts tvordovsky, zoshchenko and nikolai ivanovich, so i look, no one laughs, no reaction, i say, the audience is quite young, and i say, raise your hand, whoever has read leni the pechnik, not a single one, that is, i’m not saying that everyone should read , but with us everyone knew it, yes, yes, but it was part of the language, yes, here it is an independently living phrase. he is not the worst, this is not something that needs to be repeated day and night about lenin and the stove-maker,

but it shows how differently generations are structured, what different experiences they have, well, this is the other side of accessibility, democracy, the notorious, yes, because accessibility means absence, once i was in front of a large audience, “well, let me say a line from mandelstam, who can continue, continue, i didn’t even say a line, but two words, enough to sulk, the audience stood up, like as if i was hosting a parade, she said, we’ll put the papers in the table, but it was, it’s not, well, these were people of my age, our age and beyond, but it was impossible to buy, get hold of, or read madlishtime, but everyone knew it, now he there is, but there is nothing on this disk, this is your most important thesis; i actually heard it from you for the first time several years ago. when you said that this universal availability of information and even knowledge of some kind, it turns out that you just don’t have to get it, i really like theodor adorn’s phrase, in order to fully perceive music, you still need to get to where

it is performed, it’s terribly important, symphony, there is no sound recording, there is no technical reproducibility according to benjamin, yes, so if you want to hear a symphony, you must understand where it is performed once a year, yes get there to the philharmonic in another. that we do click, click, beethovin’s ninth, yes, the first scriabin, but this is not completeness, this is lightness, which is false, and lightness. there’s even something more, as i remember, zanusik told me, who had not used a mobile phone for a long, long time, and he talked about some priest he knew who had a dog barking on the call, he said, why , he says, well, this is a notification, here i am a man from the village, when someone came, a dog barked, and when excuse me, you're in the restroom and vivalda, yes, it's something like that, well, it's some kind of

cultural thing. the combination is incompatible and one process and another, i think it’s so risky, let’s joke dear friends, well, we didn’t have time, of course, i think that i’ll have to gather my thoughts again, i wanted to talk more about memory and time, to continue the topic of forgetting a little, well maybe with your permission next time, but you know what i would like to end with, well, in a sense, we are in captivity of pragmatism today, yes, i would like i ask you, i have such an instrumental question, if you think it’s important... memory training, can you advise something for this very training? i'm generally not the one who could give advice regarding memory, but it seems to me that that is, i heard , and i think that this is true, you need to learn poetry, that's exactly what i say, they say that it 's better in a foreign language, well it’s possible, only on your own it’s less, less effect, but i’m against the word... recognizing good poems, they

’re just like the quintessence of language, any are remembered to live to lie down a national goal, well, russian literature is poetry, yes, speech dies at the moment of utterance , ours included, here they are immediately forever, yes, poetry is generally a universal remedy for everything, likhachev said that during blockades, when minus... 20 in the room, it’s impossible to read a book, everyone is lying under all the blankets, but he says, but they read poetry out loud, it could be done, and it saved, i agree, absolutely, poetry in russian and not in russian, not in russian, i agree with you, but it has a special charm, it it’s still an effort, unless of course it ’s your native second language, yes, that is, you

understand in a special way what non-utata is like there. native languages, and you know, in this regard, what i really like, the ancient greeks say, it was used by the pythagoreans, not the pythagoreans, i don’t know, when you’re already going to bed, going to bed, try to remember the day in all its details, in all in the smallest details, this, well, firstly, you immediately fall asleep, they say, if, if you practice, yes, well, really, your memory is trained, thank you very much, dear friends. i really don’t want to part with you,

but time is inexorable, but we still have memory, evgeniy germanovich vadolaskin, dmitry petrovich bak, today we gathered our thoughts about memory. hello, dear tv viewers, the podcast of the melody of my life, i am its host, valery syutkin, and today a theater and film artist with his velvet voice, dmitry dyuzhev, came to visit me, hello dmitry, hello, valerochka, dear, thank you for the invitation, good night, dear tv viewers, sergey osokin is with us today on the accordion, together with seryozha we play in the light jazz project, a cast

of melodies of my life, it allows you to learn more about our guest through music, because music is the best keeper of memory, we will remember the melodies that accompanied you in your life, they will give you have the opportunity, based on them, to remember some small details that don’t come to us without music, and of course, we always start with the melody of childhood, so dmitry dyuzhev the light appeared, by the way, where did it happen, it happened in city. astrakhan, my mother was nine months pregnant, they also lived in almaat , my father worked at the lermontov russian drama theater and... on july 9 in the morning, my mother began to cry, i want to see my mother, i want to see my mother, my father, in some incredible way, buys two tickets for

plane almaat and astrakhon, they arrive, my mother’s contractions begin, they arrived, an ambulance, my pregnant mother is being taken to the maternity hospital, the maternity hospital in astrakhan is located on the seventeenth pier, where the second sunday of july, this is the seventy-eighth year, fisherman’s day, they come - ships in the caspian fleet are loaded with fireworks, so they bring my mother to the maternity hospital at 9:15 pm, lift her into the operating room, as soon as it all begins , the fireworks begin to roar, boom, people scream, hurray, mom remembers, you say you were born, and obstetricians, he says, are running around, lord, who was this born into, a fisherman, will become a fisherman, a fisherman, dear friends, just now, right before your eyes, and i, i have the impression of a more artistic story about the appearance of light, i have never heard in my life, that’s what it means, the dramatic actor has come, i i just saw this movie

, you know, the astrakhan barge with watermelons, dmitry dyuzhev is visiting us, dim, after all, that’s it, astrakhn, dad was an actor, you inherited more than a dozen from your dad, acting. dad loved music, we had records, and of course, we had records and soyuz-cartoon, and little red riding hood separately, the bremen town musicians had a separate record that played, i want to tell you, after all, music is the password of a generation , you are not the first person who comes to visit me, in childhood and for me, too, bremen musicians, this is kind of straight. for our children, this music by gennady golodkov continues to sound to the poems of yurientin, tell me, do you have experience in voicing cartoons? in your career, of course , i have several cartoons, which i voiced,

played different roles, voice color, expressed the psychological portrait of the character, tell me, when you didn’t yet know such smart words, but you were smart. an astrakhan guy, he’s growing up, in his youth, well, it’s clear that with your dad’s profession, you were already, so to speak, to some extent, directed, well, here is youth, melodies of youth, i listened to something in adolescence and played it, so to speak, the melody of youth, it is associated with such a melody by torverdiev, from 17 moments of spring, i have it and in pictures this youth flies, that’s how the melody , and as a song, you know, i was an absolute fan of our soviet film the three musketeers, i dreamed of being one of them, i

dreamed of taking a sword, in fact, we ran out into the yard, took branches, we performed all this, this is, of course, our domestic film, where is boyarsky, where is smekhov, where is smirnitsky, valentin georgivich, yes, valentin georgivich and i are still playing a play together for 20 years, free love, when did you begin to know for sure that the acting profession is your path in life, when did you make this decision? i dreamed of going to sea, in astrakhan, this is valor and honor itself, these chenilles, these belts with a badge, badge. heavy, it’s so convenient to fight with them, in general, this is such an honor and dignity of astrakhan, of course, i wanted to be like them, but at some point my father, when we were watching a theatrical skit boy, he saw that i began to laugh, began to ask who it is, why

they are doing this, this is not kvn, it seems like no other programs, these are just students of the theater institute, and then he said, dimochka, you dream of becoming a sailor, but but if you go to a theater institute, you can be a sailor, a rescuer, a hero, and anyone else, in one of your lives you can try yourself, experience different professions, different characters of people, i convinced you, dad, convinced me so much that i went to i entered the theater institute to mark anatolvich, to mark anatolvich, right from the first time, but you got in, everything was successful, and even then there was such a popular melody, everyone

sang it; my first love there. we’ll just remind you of the self-sounding there , seryozh, you remember there about the london intro , then there was some kind of brutal male chorus after that, i don’t remember the word either, i remember. not there, not seryozha, seryozha,