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[000:00:00;00] a psychiatrist, because in the shortest possible time after the appointment of therapy, my sleep was restored, my condition stabilized, and i completed the treatment without delays, exactly on time, without any emotional leaps that i absolutely did not need at that time moment, girls, let's talk about life after cancer, i practically don't know, with one hundred percent density of people... who go into remission after cancer, they go through some kind of colossal internal reboot, and comes out on completely different radars and now you become sensitive to the thrill of life, that is, you begin to receive an unspeakable, enormous joy from those things that for you were absolutely such, you know, an ordinary background, you
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didn’t know how to rejoice, and you didn’t know how... to sing , you understand the thrill of life when you left, closing the door behind you, of the oncology center, or as in my case it was the radiology, uh , department, so i remember how i walk along this path from radiology in the winter, there they are jumping snowflake with lard and breast , and it was like that happiness, just from the fact that you see this snow, snow, life goes on, what will happen there is unknown, but do you live here now? in general, you don’t care about anything else, i even shot a video of me throwing out the hundredth pair of shoe covers there, i didn’t even have a mobile phone then, i specially shot some video and then posted it on social networks, that the stage is completed, everything is rebooted, but what’s interesting is that in general i’m such a fairly optimistic person in life , and sometimes they even reproached me that you you rejoice where there seems to be nothing
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to rejoice at, in principle with me. such a style in life that any negative must be turned into a positive, and i can’t even say today that cancer, the cancer diagnosis was the most difficult test in my life, i can’t say about it, it was a difficult adventure, a difficult marathon, which i needed. in general, it’s not easy when you ’ve finished treatment, because the doctors are cooing with you, you can write at any time, but then you fluttered away like a bird from... yes, and i remember these words of the doctor, that you don’t need us anymore, come back there in so many years, well, of course, there is a series of necessary examinations, but to these doctors, so that we don’t see you, there are implants , you’ll come and change it after some time, and you’re like, that’s it, you’re alone, that’s how it’s like in this cube, and that’s it, now i’m responsible myself, and you know, it’s exciting, you’re standing before an abyss, a huge new life , as you know,
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yes, yes, an adult and what they call us, yes yul, guarded, guarded, yes, those are the ones the limitless opportunities that open up in front of you and which maybe you didn’t give in to, they are a little scary, here you have to choose, because i began to directly change my life, change jobs, change some areas, try new things, what is my family like? can’t keep up with me, sometimes, it’s just that now we know that there are no blacks... and you live your life purely, it’s very important to say that i ’m currently in prevention, that is, i’ve passed the stage of the operation, now i i am undergoing prevention in the form of targeted of the drug, i will be receiving it until may next year, but when i left the surgery where i had the operation , they told me, we congratulate you, you no longer have cancer, and i somehow
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start from this, that there is cancer in me no more, now i want to agree with anna that i have become very selective, this is who i communicate with , what i watch, what i do, because i understand that i should get the maximum from this, because this is life, now it is is happening, no one will wait for me to somehow get together or decide something, here it is is happening here now, so you need to live here now, and this seems to me very important, because i told many of my...’ friends during the diagnosis, i wore them so tightly so that they would go and get checked, because i say, please do me a favor, go get it checked, i’ll know that it’s not in vain that i’m going through this, if i help someone, i’ll be just happy, and they answered me something like this, okay , i’ll go next week, or i’ll go in a month , or i’ll go in 2 months, and i understand that they don’t understand this yet, this
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fact that life is a moment. you all the time, i want to talk to you about something else. an unambiguous topic: this is what the status of an oncology patient should be, well, a person who or there is a term in the english language, we do not have, unfortunately , a similar logical term has not taken root: cancer survivor, a survivor of cancer, in many western traditions, a person who has gone through cancer, he is in his own eyes, in the eyes of his environment, in society, he is such a hero, yes, he is such a special person, that is, you walk with a medal on the chest, this is one concept, there is another concept that says that you should not get hung up on, yes, everything was , passed, let go, don’t ask, don’t remember what is correct, in your opinion, it seems to me that there is no right here,
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because, well, i’ve been on this topic for 3 years, more than 3 years, and i don’t let go of this topic, because it’s wildly interesting to me, in principle, i was interested in medicine, and i’m interested in how it ’s developing now, i haven’t left any from one chat, and... my area of interest is really one of the layers of life focused on how medicine is developing, how science is developing, are there any new options for patients, yulia and i mentioned a psychologist, and perhaps people will now say, well, this is expensive, but you know that there are funds that provide these opportunities for free , and there are volunteer psychologists who are volunteer psychologists, and very professional ones, so i think that this is probably a big word mission, but this is a big part of my life that i don’t want to give up, i don’t want a biased attitude towards myself, i don't want to be pitied
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basically, well, in my work i do everything just like everyone else, but i have yes , let’s say, this is a pink ribbon icon, which signals that you can come to me and ask if you have a problem, it seems to me that this very dangerous concept, what a vulgarity. and it passed, passed and passed, yeah, not because you need to live with the disease, because there is no disease, if necessary, if the doctor said that you are in remission, live and enjoy the fact that you are in remission, because if you constantly think about illnesses are not life, it’s you, again, you’re sick, still, because in your head you are sick, but it is very important to help others, that’s why i think that forgetting and moving on is not very good, but i can do it. to say that i get great pleasure if i help someone, even if i listen for 20 minutes to the hysteria of a woman who writes that everything, everything is gone, i tell her for 20 minutes that i am here, i with you, i
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can’t hug you, but i’m just like you, i’m 33, that is, often women are a little older, they already decide that life is over, but i 33, i haven’t had much of a life yet, yes, but i’m here with you, i’m holding you mentally by the hand, i want to tell you that everything will be fine, these are not just words, because you must always believe in a good outcome, and it seems to me that because anya answered me, i had a feeling of security, you know, that there was someone with me who understood me, actions actually help more, for example, my friend and i had a tradition before chemotherapy, we went to some fancy restaurant have breakfast and i looked forward to it on the day of chemotherapy, not as the day when i will feel sick in the evening, but as the day when in the morning we have a great time with a friend, i stop by for my healing cocktail, and then i just continue to recover, this is a very
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correct phrase , i don’t continue to be treated, i continue to recover, yes, among our girls there is such a phrase that we are cancer patients , we are recovering cancer patients, that’s what we call ourselves, no, unfortunately, today there is some kind of russian phrase, but there’s a survivor, that’s onka there is a convalescent, yes, here it is worth emphasizing that i was very unlucky with my close circle with my friends, that these were people who sometimes awkwardly said these phrases about holding on, but i forgave them, because i knew that they they’ve never encountered anything like this, they don’t know, and i want to tell everyone recovering from cancer that if they say such phrases to you, don’t be offended, you ’re okay. keep in mind that people almost never know how to communicate with you, they don’t want to offend you, they want you somehow, to fence, to protect, so that you just say, i’m close, all my friends and my
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beloved husband were nearby and thanks to them i think that i’m now in such a basically positive state of mind, this is colossal support, well, friends, today we are talking so unexpectedly positively about cancer, about the fact that this, as you rightly said, anya, is a marathon, a marathon of adventures of self-discovery. therefore, do not be afraid, live life as if everything is just beginning, in some ways it really is so, today we talked about the fear of cancer, of cancer diagnoses, of people who are diagnosed with cancer, and our conversation, of course, is timed to coincide with the month when we talk about breast cancer, but not only about breast cancer, of course, we are talking about that
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test that befalls a huge number of families and people, thank god, today it is possible to pass it successfully, healthy, maintaining both health and good psyche, psyche podcast, cold spring. distant lights are sleeping, how long have i been looking for the dream of my love, dancing snow and rain, my dream will block my path, you
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in the spring. i need to see it, it will be warmer, as the spring cried, what will be there ahead , the bird will fly into the distance, my love... find it, the snow dances with the rain, the dream warms the way for me, you are my spring, i need to see you, it will be warmer, the snow dances with the rain, dream warm the way for me, you are my spring, i need to see
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arranger, poet and generally a very cool person whom i adore, but i don’t know yet i was in person before this meeting, alexey is similar, lesh , hello, hello, very glad to meet you, finally, yes mutually, i admit honestly, i don’t know how to sing, but i love, unfortunately, for those who are in karauk in the moment when i also come there, and my my favorite song to start with is, of course, cold spring. for warming up, forgive me, please, i sing it all the time and mentally ask you for forgiveness, i also have my friend from rostov on don, he is warming up on the song before you, we. i’m just haunted by karaoke in general throughout my life, he me, when we first became friends, he me, he says, you know that i sing your songs better than you, i say, well, most likely, i’m not qualified to be a singer pretend, great, just a minute, who are you then, well, i
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perform, as it were, well, here are my songs, for me of course, it’s more important that i write them, i don’t know, i still have this whole complex, and this complex remains, that i think that... if a person wrote a song and still performs it, then this is it i have great, great respect, and this is very harmonious, because if a person wrote it, then he actually shows what is inside him, that is, what he believes in, at least i believe in it , that a person believes in what he sings is understandable, that is, you rather sing with your soul than somehow some super cool vocals, this is what i call acting singing, i studied at the acting department, we were taught there to sing with the soul, if you have. it may even be that the voice there is not some kind, it’s not super superior, you take it there , it’s not not the timbre, it’s not super , it’s just so tasty and thick, sing with your soul, sing, thinking about what you’re singing about, worrying absolutely, well, yes, that ’s how it is for me too in addition, in recent years, an interesting practice has appeared for me to sing songs that i like, but which
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were not written by me, this is exactly how i approach them, in these are mainly war songs of soviet composers, and they are so... sincere - the works are so written by professionals that i am in admiration, i sing them, i of course try to tell them, it is clear that the notes must be held, not there don’t just mumble, this is for rappers there, but keep notes, i’m a rapper, i don’t keep notes, you can always go into rap, if something happens there, now it’s yes, trendy, trendy, listen. you just said about war songs, i caught myself thinking that when i listen to your cold spring, i sing it too, i understand that it’s about love, most likely, but for some reason the film still reminds me a little of the cold summer of 1953, directed by proshkin, who took my directing exam when i was studying,
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thank you, this is a big compliment, great film for some reason it echoes, although i understand that the song is not about this, but here i have this one, what do you think? cold spring, your main hit? well, actually, really, this is a song from the first album, the first album - it was some kind of miracle for me, because i really i was brought up on western music, first classical, and german, but mostly there, uh, well, beethoven, and god, i thought ramstein, no, ramstein didn’t exist then, i still don’t, i’m 1969, me too , yes, seriously, well, just imagine, and then i got carried away, when i was studying guitar , acoustic, or rather, classical guitar, students slipped me pinkfeed for 7 years, and since then i just failed there and it was mine, i was 12 years old, no, 73, this is the dark side of the moon, this was no longer a bar, besides there was already time, of course, there was already a wall
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, i listened to everything, yeah, and i, i kind of carried this all my life with me, this is a reserve of cla. and english rock music, that is, and jazz, then they hooked me there, so to speak, with miles davis, and many jazzmen there, i listened to cool jazz there and so on, i was very interested in really really music, what is called the depth of itself the art of music, yes, these meanings, these great sensations of some kind of cosmic scale, i can say that stan’s album helped i won’t go crazy in the army, well, i had a player and there were only two cassettes, i won’t say that on the second, on the first i had pink floyd on both sides, it’s not bad to listen to an album on both sides in the army on a reel, or what? no, no, well, a cassette player, yes, i already had it then, i served in the eighty-eighth, ninetieth, and
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i still remember this one, it was called a laser, my father brought it there from somewhere, i used it everywhere, in the same place nothing was allowed, no personal belongings, well , it’s clear, it’s clear, well, that’s how i... what’s wrong with this with all my baggage, i was naturally interested in english-language music in russian. in general, i didn’t even try to write . you had some projects, i had something there, they were called, i don’t quite remember, there was some jolie jail all the time, jay this me dzhanga is also present, which means jolly jail and the planche planche swam , oh exactly, and what about the planche - it was an interesting thing, there really was a lot of music and we ourselves wrote poetry, which means my friend and i wrote in english and were there. i'm in london, it's hard to be born with the russian language and writing poetry in english is one of my many stupidities throughout my life , and that’s what it means a lot. honestly, it turned out that we thought we always focused on music, but nevertheless, we had some kind of philosophical texts about life,
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which means it’s about people’s relationships, in relation to something absolute, and so on, so directed this album, just listen to the music, this is what we composed, in london they said, listen, guys, you have such cool lyrics, what are you doing, and then i realized why, but because we have absolutely a different attitude towards life. here’s a different worldview, we wrote differently, in other words about something else, about something they probably weren’t used to hearing about, it’s very cool that you wrote lyrics, it’s really not like directly imitating some robert burns or something else something, namely thinking in russian, but simply translating it into english, as i understand them, yes, most likely so, plus of course there were some rhymes, as pushkin said, i envy the british, they have a lot of rhymes , that means in the language, yes, because eishen. cool
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rhyme, when i started writing in russian, i just dived into it like into some kind of warm, gentle ocean, and i suddenly began to understand the meaning of words, because we are dealing with an ethical language or songs and even a language, it’s different from everyday language, it’s not a means of information, it’s a means of spiritual penetration, that is, it’s some kind of vibration, and moreover, the language conveys its own history, its own worldview, its own attitude, just take the idiomatic expressions of russian language, it was even the same, not was, yes, this doesn’t translate into anything, but it’s me, sometimes when i perform this song, i say, guys, this is our russian
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was mirages again. this is a podcast 20 years later, i am the host konstantin mikhailov, my guest is alexey podobny, the leader of the django group. listen, your band name is a little bit cowboyish or it didn’t come from there, djangu, i also remember with franco nero, djangu, you haven’t seen the film, if i had seen it, where he walked with a coffin, and there was bullet fire, if i had seen this film, i probably would not have taken this one an alias in no case, and then django is freed, but this is already fast. already after shadowboxing, that’s why tarantino was late, maybe he got off you altogether, that’s it, janga reinhard, he’s a french guitarist, he played in the forties, he made his style like this, it’s called manush or tamzhi swing, it ’s called differently , this is such funny, cool, cheerful music, and i liked playing it, just in the army, i didn’t hide the player,
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i hid the guitar and notes, it’s more difficult. i tried, well, there the dryers could be thrown onto the boards, a very cool thing, if no one slept there, my guitar lay there, that’s where i studied at night, well guys, well, this is already in the second year of service, of course, in the first year you practice there, so i remembered, you fly, well, the first six months, then a little bit there, you already have to, you already have to sort of control the situation there, but it requires drawing from you, as if naturally, that too. you can’t, as they say, crawl to the side, so they say, oh, cool, lesh, but it’s okay, we ’ll sit here, listen to you play, but i i think, okay, i’m playing, oh, this is a cool thing, what is this, and i say, yes , there’s djanga reinhart, there ’s such and such a rider or something else, he says, but cool, django , this is a cool name, you will be django, in general, well, that’s django, and then it came up, somehow i was going through it,
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but i generally wanted something sonorous, something like three words. so powerful, well, i didn’t find it , but the guys did me a disservice, they say, here’s dzhanga, look, cool, beautiful, romantic, everyone around me also says, yes, cool, beautiful, romantic, i think, well, probably, okay, okay, and then you see, it turns out, i’m a simple person, alexey poddubny, suddenly this incomprehensible thing begins, no, it happened very interestingly, it’s very awakens some kind of associative series, yes alexey. thoughtful, for some reason django, cold spring, that's all, for me it works very well , let's leave it, leave it, here i am, listen, it also worked for director sidorov, who took this song into the film in which all my friends were filming, deniska nikifororov and pashka, also a very long time ago, cool, also a tabakovsky student, also a moscow art theater student, he’s
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very cool, he’s cool, czech wood. yes, yes, deniska, it’s gorgeous, and the film turned out very good, it’s just amazing , at that time there weren’t many good russian films, here is such a film and such a soundtrack, and it seems to me that this is just a huge success, from all sides , director, actor, your song got there, it just worked out very well, well, even when we met at the presentation of the film in moscow, with alexei sidorov, and he told me, so who are you, i say , this is the person whose song you have there at the end, oh, you saved me in the finale, he said, yes, that’s it, well, that’s verbatim , i’m just quoting whether this is true or not, i don’t know, but the fact is that these words definitely made the finale, but how did you get there, how did you find out about it, did it happen at the same time as you, or were you aware, no, no, i was aware, but i didn’t really count on it, because i just recorded this song, i recorded the first album,
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that’s what i said it was for me miracle, and one man arrived, his name was ilya, so he said: we’re filming a film in moscow, even look, an american actor is participating, amos is there, so i say, oh, cool, he’s a tough nut to crack. it’s cool, that means there are two second-generation students, yeah, that’s it, i say, it’s cool, it’s probably a powerful project, i liked the plot, he says, give me songs, well, i gave you an album, it’s already been recorded, practically mixed there, and all this, and he left, that’s it, and there was no news for 4 months, suddenly he calls and says: that’s it, lesha, they took the song, great, in general, that’s it great, we'll watch the movie soon, listen, and papagan in general is the same thing, what kind of word is that? well, a papagan is, in general, such an allusion, also a little to the english language, that a gun is, in general, a pistol, and a papagan, papa, is , well, like a solid pistol, big, the main
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one, papa gun, a group of django. it’s such a night, you know, run away if you don’t want to, ay-yay-yay, there are pennies on your mind, a suitcase, a papagan is dancing in your hand, shores, southern, north, to the southern, making many hordes, distant, distant stars, sad, click on bolt pedal, yes yes yes yes! pull, pull the golden house, streets, thresholds, blind with sleep, pull, pull, golden thought, stop the caravan
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, arrived, night, i know, i know, run away, seeing off the winter in the spring, meet, it’s better to hug the ocean than forgotten love and a glass, distant, dalia stars sad smoke in pockets oida and happiness in handfuls, trucks a pity, not forever, yes, yes, yes, yes, we pull, we pull, golden duman, streets along the road, naslabit the basis, we pull, we pull, golden duman, sideways, hello, let's pull up the golden fog, the streets of a friend will give you love, let's pull up the golden fog,
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golden duman, chanem golden duman, botians. we've arrived, let's pull the golden duman, the streets are handy to the slebide znov, we're pulling, we'll pull the golden duman, the feet are horapan , we've arrived, we're pulling, we'll pull the golden rumat, the streets, the hands will itch the snobs, we're pulling the golden duman, the stopper, we've arrived, let's pull the streets, we've arrived, what is the main song for you, by the way, in fact, for the first time on the radio the song papagan was heard, and then it just started, which means it’s a cold spring, it’s hard
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to say about the main songs, i still try to write and further, although of course my productivity is probably not very high, there are very few albums, but now i’m only the third who said, new songs are written only by those who don’t have good old ones, in my opinion it’s antonov, nikolsky or antonov, well, i trying? and then i’m interested, i’m interested in continuing the search in a melodic sense in a poetic sense, uh, there’s a song, for example, in the nights of the factory outskirts and i also wrote it for quite a long time, selecting each word in the literal sense, analyzing it, tasting it, writing it down on paper, depending on how it is looks on paper, how it sounds, how it sounds from the speakers, how it is, and so on and so forth, how it fits into an arrangement without an arrangement, that is, i have a very perfectionistic approach, maybe to my work, according to your bend,
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yeah, from django’s group, it’s clear that you’re an arranger, because i see some gorgeous girl there, i recognized you, you have an accordion, you have an absolutely charming girl who plays the trumpet, she plays the keys, by the way, she’s a student eli inkrieg, that is, the famous trumpet player, yes, wow, how they even played together, i listened, it’s very special to me, well, they threw out a cry , i wrote a song, it’s called lorca, the most key moment of this song is the trumpet solo, yeah, that’s the trumpet solo, to me played by louis armstrong, i’ll tell you how, also with the help of such things, but not with the help of a computer, i searched for a very long time for several days , i finally found single notes that louis armstrong played in some recording, it was very fashionable for them, that means , the song starts, then it stops, which means there’s a pause, louis plays, let’s say, yes, then the whole thing comes in again orchestra, and the song ends, and so on
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several times, i found it myself. successful notes that louis armstrong actually played, i chopped them up, made all sorts of modifications, pitching, stretching and fifths and tenths, in general, i did this solo on the trumpet, it went like that, then the question arose, so, okay, there is soul on the trumpet, but there is no armstrong, and the song is about a girl, but shouldn’t we find a girl, that means, who plays the trumpet, i think, probably, a fantastic situation, then suddenly sasha brucheeva loomed on the horizon. we made an offer from which she couldn’t refuse, mm, she’s very pretty, by the way, from your personal life, i saw your quote that your biggest phobia is the stamp in your passport, you’re downright marriage-phobic, well, there was such a period in my life , yes, but now, so to speak, i am an absolute example, the absolute opposite, i thought that the ring was like that, it was a factor that simply... well, something like that,
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so i lost it, i lost it, about a month later , then i bought the same thing, went, it means there, well, almost in secret from my wife, i bought the second, then i wore it, i wore it, i think, well, somehow, well, suddenly i’ll lose it again, in general, in the end i don’t wear it, i don’t like to wear anything on my arm, well, well, now i’m married, you have children , i heard, yes, yes, yes, yes, well, what has changed, everything has changed, just everything , when my son was born, i was still trampling on the people, so to speak, so i took courses, i helped, that means i was present there massage, psychological support, in general, i went through this case twice and when i took my son in my arms, i realized that my life had changed just in one second, and then i understood everything, i understood so many of the deepest simple things , i experienced such feelings, that is, being a father is just, well
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, this happiness is incredible and i value it as the most important thing, how many years? the son is nine, now, and the daughter is four, playing on something, which means that the son played the guitar like drums, at first we all thought that he was a drummer, he just beat it mercilessly, but very rhythmically, very drivingly, i think, well, that’s it, it’s not a guitarist, it’s a drummer, yes, well, i wouldn’t like it at all since i have no influence on the choice of life path , because i know how difficult the profession of a musician, writer, performer and so on is, so i am a kind of cross, yes, that is, you were born a musician, you became a musician because you as if confirmed, yes, they told you to be a musician, you want to be a musician, well, from up there, you want to be a musician, you’re like, yes, yes, i want to, get it, that means, like this, so, if this is not... then, that
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is, this is most likely your destiny, after all, over houses, farewells, hopes, not until the heart-to-heart conversations, everything between us will remain the same, you dialed the number... you can’t press it, true love is not bound by vows, that’s why, my little boy’s dream, everything... hangs out on the roofs of the converted factory
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outskirts and my brother’s industrial sleep tonight they were silent, rubbed here with a dritch, so they dropped me with hot sadness, this dropped me with hot strong sadness, got me somewhere in the nights of the factory outskirts, i didn’t hide my heart under my clothes, from the rain i lingered at night, and they are still burning in my uncurtained window, the stars that i promised you, just today the nights are silent, the trams are ringing in the morning, so he dropped me in the heat of the moment, with sadness, he dropped me in the heat of the moment, with sadness, somewhere in the nights of the factory outskirts, so the agreement is that we are at the same time with the passing freight trains, we are of the same blood, the receiver of the cities , voices through the door,
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with sadness, but someone in the heat of the moment , don’t call me to the lights of zamoskovar, this the conversation is not about me, i wouldn’t trade my native soviet street for anything in life, it’s a botka. 20 years later, i am the host konstantin mikhailov, my guest is alexey padubny, the leader of the django group. what did you dream of 20 years ago that has now come true? but i have to say that i
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’ve never gotten so ahead of myself, yeah, i’ve always had some pressing tasks in my life that needed to be solved, then forgotten about them and moved on somewhere else. so i wrote the first album, i wanted to form a group. because he was actually a studio arrangement album, there were a lot of invited musicians, and good ones, there were very, very many different instruments, it ’s just that if you pulled out the stage, then there wouldn’t be enough space just for it all to be there, double bassists there, some- then the colorists, why wasn’t it there, you have an arranger in you, yes, yes in me, well , you basically caught me on this thing, that i really talk about this all the time, you have such a bend, but it’s sophisticated together with this... it's powerful and electronic and music, along with it he is like that with a normal, such a good gypsy drive , what you play, you know, this is a little bit like gogol bordello, such a little bit of kusturica turns out, yes, there are such songs, there are others, just if it were a whole concert, then it was possible to show there some song snow, which
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