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Understanding 9/11tv Anti Feik 1TV November 2, 2023 9:20am-10:01am MSK
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[000:00:00;00] the feeling of an absolutely close person nearby, this is the path of love, this is the only hint that is appropriate here, and only because such a story simply could not end well, but for the rest of the answers, go to the cinema. pavel matveev, maya emelyanova, veronika ilbuchenova, alexander isaev, dmitry remizov, channel one, well, in yakutsk the chase is just like in the movies, a brave traffic police inspector jumped on the car to stop the reckless driver, just like that, several hundred. on the hood, the speed is not low, frost -20, there was a strong wind, but the inspector held his ground, two more patrol cars followed , as a result, the car was blocked, with the joint efforts of the fugitive they detained and tied up what he had done, but other than disobeying the traffic police officer and creating a dangerous situation on the road, it is still unclear. that's all for the news,
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we'll come back, but right now there's an anti-fake on the air. how 27,000 pentagon pr people are rewriting world history, an exclusive from the german journalist patrick baba, for whom he was hunted, as well as grenades and armored personnel carriers by mail. let's uncover secret arms supply schemes from europe to ukraine, amazing facts about the biography of columbus, voiced by independent... historians against genuine documentary evidence, about this and much more in the program today, this is an anti-fake program and here we are waging our fight against fakes and disinformation. we will now deal with an interesting message, so in kiev they claim that the postal terminal that came under attack in the kharkov region was an exclusively civilian object,
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is this so... the main question: the new post office, what is it doing, daniel, you are probably in new course mail, and what is sent to it? in fact, the new post office is involved in military logistics, that is, they transport equipment, ammunition, military technologies, let’s say the same technologies for attack drones, well, yes, that is , components, the attack drones themselves, and whatever, by the way, about the new post office until the age of 16, the new mail was very popular. among the ukrainian military personnel who were in the occupied territory of donbass, these were the dpr, lpr, which were under their control, the looted property of local residents was sent to their homes novaya pochta, and even the ukrainian channel stb, if i’m not mistaken, in 16 or 197 they filmed a whole report about how this was happening, then there was a ban on accepting anything from the military, so looking at these footage, i now i see, well, the mail is mail, what
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can i say, inside the box. could there be delivery of certain shells, cartridges, something else, night vision devices, yes , of course, why not, what we see now on the screen, because in fact, this is a war crime, but a war crime a crime of ukraine, because as part of our program we have repeatedly looked at examples where military equipment, military equipment, foreign military experts are based on completely peaceful ones. are based, they place their installations near schools, near kindergartens, and are based in trade and logistics centers , yes, what else did we look at, but we can’t even remember, a huge number of examples of how, hiding behind civilian objects, they are either stored, or used, or there they are used for transportation and processing, completely peaceful civilian objects, and here it is clear why this is a war crime, because
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strikes will still be carried out on military targets. 2015 there is a story about the activities of the post office, let's see, but here the locals are at a loss, they send not only ammunition, even forged gates, they removed the forged gates from the neighboring street, they removed them and sent them to their homeland, bags of parcels, there is a queue every day if you stand, see how many cars arrive , how many parcels are sent, check the rumors we organize our own inspection at the post office and it’s true that there are a lot of them. this man introduced himself as a general of the military law enforcement service, you are the fourth power and i am the first and that i am the first and that you heard me and that you have something to hide you want to give my soldiers a gift to dig further we are filming on a mobile phone in another department it is already
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pointless to stay here. now word of mouth has already started working, we are afraid to come here, we are heading to the lugansk region, in the city of shchastya, the post office is also in great demand among the military. the parcel is already being processed near the cash register, here’s some luggage, something in boxes and a diesel generator, a necessary thing at the front , we’re waiting at the exit, the generator is a guy from home, when we were driving from krivoy rog, he took his when they didn’t give anything, already after
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a few minutes later the version changes, the guy is at work, he didn’t go, he goes back to work and sends him back, so that the stench in the new one sleeps, the speeches are made, he will have to go there, another one of you, that’s what’s not on camera, postal workers say branches. to catch the looters, law enforcement decided to introduce new rules in all postal branches. now it has become much more difficult to send something prohibited or stolen. all parcels are accepted only in open form ; in addition,
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law enforcement and police are on duty in all departments. we must stop this serviceman, take away his weapon and hand it over to the military prosecutor. what to do if the military wants to send what the workers told us about. stb. pay attention to the credits of the report, you see, on the screen it says grenades by mail, that is, ukrainian media back in 2015 they stated that ammunition was sent through the new ukrainian post office, and not only that, but also that the looters stole, as... now we see, what kind of stb channel? in 1915 it was still possible to show this, right? well, now it’s simply impossible to hear in ukrainian something like that, for someone to openly talk about looting like this, you need to understand, well, it’s just that these facts have become so
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egregious that they were finally allowed to talk about them and stop them, because there’s just the houses were so abused there, everything was there there, sockets, switches, light bulbs, something was swarming in my head all the way while i was watching this story, a poem by our soviet children's writer, i highly recommend that those who are not familiar with it check it out, sergei mikhalkov, it’s called a german parcel, one to one , everything that happened then on the territory of ukraine, during the great patriotic war, how it was robbed , packed and shipped, we saw now after so many years, well , we just see the unloading, these frames show that british spartan armored vehicles like placed in civilian trucks, the very nature of this cargo would not be visible. on board one of the trucks there is a red company symbol - this is exactly the new post office. also, one of the ukrainian public funds reported to the media that it had delivered more than a hundred armored personnel carriers to the country from europe. at the same time, according to the organizers, the main
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logistics partner was the ukrainian new post. but let’s return to very fresh footage about the work of the new ukrainian post office. what kind of car is this? yes, this, well, this, well, of course, is nato-style, rubbish, this objectively rubbish, this technology is already morally outdated, probably 40 years ago, well, it’s better than nothing, on the other hand, well, i always say that even a catapult that can kill is better, but uh, what a miracle , i honestly don’t even know, in modern conditions, how long it will last, it’s purely scrap metal, which is just for money, they don’t even need to dispose of it, that is, let’s say the british, the french. they still make money from this, they sent it, it’s all help, it’s coming, this is a loan, that is, a loan in the form of not money, just scrap metal , when they say they gave a package of 500 million, of which 100 million goes to the salaries of nato instructors
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who have never been in any combat action, they generally they don’t know what combat contact is, but they are training someone, that is, an instructor, it’s funny, they talk about it a lot, it’s a big deception and it sounds beautiful when it says that we’ve been allocated another amount there, if we do the math to do a really expert estimate how many reached the field, well, there in the ditch, in the war, then this completely different amounts. loading again there is loading the production of shells, we take any european country that supplies shells now, they pay the manufacturer, the same rhein-metal, he makes money, his shares jumped due to government orders, but they do not send new equipment, new equipment, as he said boris pistores, minister of defense, we must first think about our safety, accordingly, and the emptying of warehouses, of course, is yesterday ’s equipment that has been there for 40 years 50 years and
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for some reason they have it at inflated rates dumped, let's just go back to what is generally transported in ukraine under the guise of, well, in civilian vehicles or in special vehicles, including ambulances. by the way, i want to recall those very cases when, even at the beginning of a special military operation, the ukrainian propaganda made mistakes, for example, we remember the story of the arab tv channel, in which ukrainian soldiers were depicted being transported in civilian ambulances, and there was also a scandal with dhl, also an american postal service company, vehicles that the ukrainians used for military purposes, again, there were such blazing cases when osce employees were carried away in espionage, when i was still the head of the press service and the speaker of the dpr army, and often i myself had to go to the sites of shelling, here is the petrovsky district, it’s not far from the front, somewhere in the trudovsky area, we went out again to record the results of the shelling, and the locals said, yes,
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as usual, the osce was here, so they left, after 10 minutes the shelling, so we had time hide, because we knew that if the osce appears, they just don’t leave, they immediately arrive, we need to understand that our enemy, this applies not only to ukrainians, these are the beauties of the nato bloc, they are not limited by the rules of war, nor by moral standards, nor norms of international law, they are unlimited, they will do everything, absolutely everything they can do, but we have some kind of framework, we are trying to comply with something, vary it, and show how kind and kind we are. non-aggressive, but he is the enemy in the open they will simply do whatever they want, for them the law is not written , that’s all, so of course, they will use, well , any methods to achieve, the ukrainian new post office works not only on the territory of ukraine, but also in poland, and also opens a representative office in germany, the czech republic and romania, by the way, this is very... convenient for transporting military and dual-
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use cargo specifically to ukrainian territory. but i think that we have sorted this out, well, right after the advertisement we will talk about fakes about russian passports. i know you will already say have been said many times, now the situation is the other way around, it turns out they are not giving it away, can you imagine, they are already worried about this , we will discuss it after a short pause. olaf scholz disappeared from the public sphere for a long time; they say he simply fell and injured his eye. which will allow us to turn the heads of those german forces who intend to come to power through constitutional means, we will continue to support ukraine with money, humanitarian aid, more than 150 billion euros have been stolen, we support in the defense of our own country, an absolutely dependent person, but to whom no matter how he serves the united states, bilderli, none of them wants a strong, sovereign germany, copes with his responsibilities, he is finishing off the german economy, biden has
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the leverage to force scholz to follow the american path. german tanks must stop the russians. germany shot itself in the foot, but it went well, now they will shoot themselves in the head. olaf scholz, doll chancellor, dolls of the heir tutti. today is the first one. bourbon steersman is a product of the stellar group, a rebel girl with a strong character, mysterious and elusive. matilda, fantasy, next level, tomorrow on the first. what is this? summary of
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german troop movements near our border. if this is not preparation for war, then what? imitation of preparation for war? we are doing a very important job. trope and even the fuhrer himself personally took part in the preparation of your materials. the same materials that you passed on to the russians. but his comrades trust him, he just sent information from the newspaper by gossip or something, you will obey me directly when you go and drag me along with you in your own way. two new transmitters sounded. us i need an exact date. be careful with these materials. if they float, it will be the end. we need him alive. he only shoots as a last resort. chief of intelligence
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november 4, 5 and 6, on the first. do you even realize that you have signed your own death warrant. idiot. you carry me like a river. well, he sang the most important song for me when we first met . i personally had no chance of guessing him as a future national artist, these are guys from our backyard, this style is closer to me, that is, such an intimate conversation with the audience, the first rehearsal, the boss is irritated , he just goes to the microphone, just says the first words and the whole world turned me upside down, thoughtful rostorguev, so to speak, here we go. the audience loves the ensemble, they love, they love these songs, they know them, they sing together, i am very grateful to the audience for the fact that for these 30-odd years they have been with us, god willing, everything will be fine with us in the future, i drew
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a cat for you there, i know that you love them, who are they, the premiere of the documentary lyuba, lyuba 4 on the first of november, well, major, for now, as they say, i will gain experience from ivan petrovich, unless, of course, he is against it, in fact, i am against it, kovalev is a knowledgeable, experienced employee, i am ready to work under him, i am working with you, we just didn't have enough radio amateurs. and this is with the help of vvm? yes, i can teach you this too. he made a scene of jealousy for me, he says, i winked at kovalev. so, we have a new murder, we are all slowly going crazy. found something? oh, no, where? i won’t bother you, he’s following us all
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will drag you down, maybe he was once a brilliant cherkastov, but now, well, he’s just a stubborn old man. can i spend the night with you? don't trust you. mosgaz, cherkassov’s last case, do you want me to report, you can say so, no, i won’t, you will, and we won’t dig up your old cases, big premiere, soon on the first, this is an anti-fake program and we continue, on the left coast of the kherson region, they allegedly stopped issuing passports of the russian federation since the beginning of october, the number of passport issuing points has decreased, those wishing to receive a russian citizenship are faced with bureaucratic problems and documents are collected in a new circle. this has been happening for several weeks now. let's talk to a person who knows everything about this, this is the head of the public relations information department of the main department of the ministry of internal affairs of the russian federation
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for the kherson region, marina ursova. marina vladimirovna, hello, good morning. they are worried on the ukrainian side that it is not so fast. former ukrainians receive russian citizenship, is this true? no, that's not true, the information certainly doesn't match, all of our departments on migration issues provide government services in the field of migration and provide government services for accepting documents for obtaining a passport of the russian federation and issuing already issued passports. recently, the division on migration issues in the kherson region has not been disbanded; it continues to work as usual; in addition, mobile mobile teams continue to travel to remote settlements in the region on an ongoing basis, in accordance with schedules agreed with administrations of settlements, for the purpose of accepting documents and issuing issued passports of the russian federation to citizens with limited mobility. thus, since february, 8,000
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applications for passports have been accepted from citizens with limited mobility and about 6,500 passports have been issued. how many days, and what documents are needed to get a russian one? passport, well, look, he will already receive a passport within 10-15 days, information about obtaining the necessary package of documents can be found on the website of the main department of the ministry of internal affairs of russia for the kherson region, and also in any point in our region where passports are issued. how many passport issuing points are currently operating? 16, in your opinion, yes, why do ukrainians do such stuffing? well, of course, to destabilize the situation in the region. this is the first time when our employees go to receive documents and issue passports of the russian federation to citizens with limited mobility, then only words of gratitude from local residents, thank you very much all the best to you, all the best,
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goodbye, i watched the story, i think there they said citizens with limited mobility, but in fact the person lived under the ukrainian authorities, he received a pension, some kind of medical care, well, somehow it functioned, and here you are, and here you are, and how, if you are not a citizen of russia, you can receive a pension, in this regard, if the passport provides social guarantees, this is simply not discussed, absolutely true, yes, but i think we have sorted this out, let’s move on to the next one, in germany they announced persecution of a journalist, writer political scientist patrick baba, the reason is precisely became a book about the donbass, which he wrote, published and immediately there were consequences, the man immediately lost his job at two universities with lightning speed, for which they fired him, he had calls for war, calls for genocide, justifications for some kind of military action, no, he is an observer, he testifies, and the desire to close the family did not come from there, not with the chancellor, this is the decision of the university directly, that is, this is the atmosphere in
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the country in which you are subject to persecution if you do not sing in the choir, for the first time on russian television, and it's nice to note with us the connection comes out to a german journalist, writer, patrick bab, who just wrote a book in the donbass, for which he is being persecuted in his homeland. in germany, patrick, we are glad to welcome you, please tell us what reaction your book caused in the west? of course it hurt me. first of all, i was introduced as an election observer from the russian federation in donbass, but i was not one. this can be easily established if you call the public chamber of the russian federation and just look at my website, read my previous activities to see that i do not offer my services to any government, but i always keep my distance from the government, in connection with this i lost the invitation to teach, apparently, since from the point of view of those in charge, this
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sufficiently served confirmation that i will deal with the russians, you know, this war will end at the negotiating table, so it is imperative that people from germany continue negotiations with people from russia, even if their opinion is in some way diverge. when the book was published, i was happy to learn that many people in germany were interested in it. i have 25 events planned in germany before the end of the year and i'm really excited about the opportunity to talk to people. the majority of german residents, as far as i know, are in favor of negotiations to find a peaceful solution. among the government, at the moment, i do not see any initiative that would indicate a desire for negotiations. this war can only end once the united states and the russian federation reach mutual understanding. well, naive man, did you really think that. in today's germany you will come and such a whole journalist will be neutral
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, you will be allowed to conduct your objective journalistic activity so much still believe in fairy tales, you could ask those who have already gone through this scoundrel is not from the point of view of the fact that the person has lost his profession, he patrick is suing, he is suing, he filed a lawsuit , he will be able to bite off some things because there was a mistake in the argumentation and this is it ah, i was not an observer, look, i did not have observer status, i was present, i observed as a journalist the processes that were taking place, in fact there is a loss of rights, if i am a doctor, i want to help people, it is my right to help people, i was trained for this, if i am a journalist, if i am a journalist or a writer, my right to talk about what i see is my professional activity, but this did not start at first with a special military operation, they were constantly silent about the crimes of ukraine. and bab too, by the way he raises this question, he does it very correctly, if every journalist did his job decently, in the west and all the editors
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who stopped true reports about torture, about the nazis, and not about bandera, then there would be no conflict now, this one-sided presentation , which is an information war, do you really think that germany is a neutral country , if it was neutral, then yes, it would be worthy if you tell us how it is here, how it is here, how people live, how they perceive it. germany means then in the information war far from neutral. germany has clearly positioned itself, it is at least a participant in combat information operations, it is clearly moving in this format, so their apparatus, well, i will say so, needs to be studied, it is necessary to resist, let me read an article about pr people, what patrick writes, journalism is more . not suitable as a source of information. the submission of the entire public had been in preparation for years. there are at least 27,000 pr people in the pentagon trying to influence the media, universities and
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the public. but we started a long time ago minds, this war in ukraine did not fall from the sky and, of course, was not an unprovoked war of aggression. patrick baab, with all due respect to him, he didn’t open up america , he said, having made sure of basic things, he didn’t take the russian side, he didn’t make any sensation, he said, maybe the russians aren’t the bad people we make them out to be we draw, the essence, in fact, i even think he said, look what i see here. yes, look, i see this, then, think what you want, but i only see this, i don’t see anything else, so i can’t tell you about anything else, and firstly, how this knowledge shook his inner world, because this work on the machine lasts more than one year and not from the age of 14, it lasts much more years, and secondly, how simply because a person turned his gaze to another sector for a second and oh, what is happening there, how
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the full power of this colossus, the kremlin, has already fallen upon him, they are abnormal, they are lying, they are nothing they know, they work for the public chamber of russia like hot cakes, every a second a new version flies out, well, i think we’ve sorted this out, yes, timur said it perfectly, the women didn’t discover america, that’s who discovered america according to the ukrainians, we ’ll talk about this right after a short pause. i decree, award the title of hero of ukraine with the honors of the state to bandera stepanov. stepan bandera's father was a ukrainian greek catholic priest and he was of course integrated into a church structure that was permeated with hostility to russia. he was quite flawed, sickly, short, his hands somehow dragged behind him, and such people, as a rule, of course, experience an inferiority complex.
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the guys from bandera's security said with indignation that he beat his wife, or even kicked her in the stomach when he was pregnant, when a child grows up in an atmosphere of violence, this becomes a kind of permission to use violence; in his childhood, in his youth, he had the nickname koshkodav. avver actually took ukrainian nationalists under his wing, and this came directly from bandera. on august 29-30 , 1943, i massacred and shot over 1,500 civilians. german troops were not allowed to love your homeland and not understand culture, art, literature, geography, what was the name of the village where uncle fedor lived, what kind of tigers live in russia, usuri,
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they are also siberian, this is a marble one. she walked through this region with a backpack, she will stop a galloping horse, she will resell an apartment in a gallop, i remember you, rose, i went, i went to the skating rink, but what did you think, there was no little goat, a man becomes a little goat after the wedding, that’s the depth baikalo, premiere, i love my country, will say yes, and we are united forever, like sun, air and water, all together, the most russian hit about my sad soul, and
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let my heart ache for those whom i do not ask to breathe and believe the wounded. this is my fight until the last moment, my fight, even if my fight is bad, until it goes out, my heart is beating, and i am alive, going on in my chest, our eternal battle, i am russian, i am going to the end. good reaction, brilliant
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command of the german language, i was born in a ural village, rather weak in character, it seems to me that he is very eager to add, gentlemen, what’s the matter, the elimination of koch is of great political importance, but is it worth risking such a valuable agent to eliminate koch, based on real events, a real intelligence officer must be ready for anything, the razor's edge, the premiere of a serial film, soon on the first, he is the enemy, you fell in love with him like a cat,
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you get pleasure, this is an anti-fake program and we continue, columbus was allegedly ukrainian, the ukrainian historian alexander dubino stated this, he outlined the discovery in an article entitled: so who discovered america? the article was published in the magazine ukrainian culture, it is published by the ministry of culture and arts of ukraine. let's listen to the fake itself. in different countries, the discoverer of america is called differently. in spain colon, in italy colombo, the french write colomb, the british - columbus. we are most interested in the name of the great navigator in portugal, where he first gained fame and from where he made his first long-distance sea voyage. in 1477, and his name in portugal was col. it is known that in medieval europe surnames were given, as a rule, according to the place of origin. let's look carefully at the geographical
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map. here it is, colomia. christopher from colomia. is this even possible? and if possible, then how did the young ukrainian end up in a distant western european country, and what did he do there? it does not mean that there was a direct connection between central and western europe. much has already been written about the spanish region of galicia with ukrainian galicia, so i will not dwell on this issue separately. aleksandryevich petrov, chief researcher at the institute of general history of the russian academy of sciences, doctor of history, is now in contact with us sci. i'm glad to welcome you. greetings everyone. i thought columbus discovered america. just imagine, my knowledge must somehow be shaken after what dubin wrote. i think it's unlikely your knowledge. well, indeed, christopher columbus discovered america, there are still discussions going on about who columbus was by origin, there are discussions in general between the spaniards, between the portuguese and between the italians, mainly
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against this background the discussion is now unfolding, when historians and linguists study the language in which columbus wrote, because he wrote in catalan, these are the latest, i am now telling you the achievements of scientists, but it is obvious that columbus was either of spanish origin or portuguese origin. ukrainians are not happy with this, but there are some gaps in columbus’s biography that they can still catch on in order to attract him, well, to ukrainian kinship. it is unlikely that anything can be added to this, except that indeed, if we are talking about columbi, little is known until the moment when he addresses official letters, first to the portuguese monarch. then to the philanthropist of europe and he even turned to the english king for financial assistance, tried to contact the french king, but it is obvious that this navigator knew
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many languages well and indeed, his such knowledge of navigation and knowledge of commerce speak about him uniquely the origin is of european origin, spain, i say or portugal, and where is columbus buried? and you know, a detective story, in fact, it is believed that in general this is columbus, his foundations is located in seville, a very beautiful cathedral, and in general there is an archive of india, i worked there with documents, a very interesting place , attracts a huge number of tourists, here is the tomb of columbus and in general even approaching it, a whole outstanding monument in the cathedral, it is very difficult to approach, but but you know, archaeologists, historians, anthropologists argue that there are numerous transfers of the remains of the kolub, in fact, there is a horse-drawn horse there, or someone else, i want to explain to all tv viewers how this all
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happens, in detail, this happens it’s very simple that if a person makes some kind of discovery, he presents it at a scientific conference, preferably at an international conference or congress, where the report is discussed, then the report is published, that’s basically how it works, you know. what happens if we see that the cleaver wrote in what language, we see his facts of his biography, who he married, this is one of the fact that he married... a portuguese girl with a noble origin because of the whole theory that he is actually portuguese, and this be discussed at scientific conferences, then it can be recognized, because these texts are very serious and dozens, emphasis on dozens, of an international conference are devoted to columbus, but this theory of what you just said was not seriously discussed at any of the international scientific conferences forums, and even then i think that it will not be discussed, so seriously, from a scientific
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point of view, that columbus had any origin other than the countries i mentioned, most likely he actually wrote in catalan, and this is part of spain , here i am for example, i am more inclined towards this, although probably the italians and representatives of genoa will argue with me, because the official point of view is that it had the origin of the island of cursica of the republic of genoa, we know that genoa is a huge trading empire with already defined. democratic structure, well, linguistic analysis now shows that no , this is not entirely true, so it is precisely on this fact that disputes can be waged between genoa and between, say, catalonia, please, all other theories that arise in huge, believe me, a huge number , even professional historians don’t have time to keep track of it, this is an attitude towards science , thank you very much for this lecture, all the best to you, there are a lot... they are one more fantastic
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than the other, i have come across a version that he was a pole, and his last name is not columbus, but golumb or dove, something like that, i think that everything connected with this was treated with disdain then, and today we often disdain certain mythologization, these things should not be allowed, we need to fight, because in 100 years everything will be upside down, so i think we need to fight for history, it’s like 27,000 pr people in the pentagon, right, who? what am i talking about, yes, who did it in such a way that they imposed on us certain values, a certain worldview, that is, they worked on it, that’s right, this character is exactly the same, a pr person, only, well, in principle, also from the pentagon, although only with territory of ukraine, yes, they are doing the same thing, creating certain fake news, fake entertainment, fake mythology, and then over the years it just gets intertwined, intertwined, intertwined , like on the internet, you write in a search engine, and it’s already given to you, and to get to... however, you had to go very, very far
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down several pages, and many will not do this, you know, very correctly, a person who has the status of a scientist or something else, he has influence, he has, he is a leader of public opinion, when they created you as an authority, and then some characters appear ukrainians are like farion, kind of crazy, but she has airtime, it has an influence on a certain target audience, i think the person is simply sick, and it’s one thing we talked about measurement there, we talked about colombia and a completely different... discussion about, for example, how to really motivate a person to bloody age-old oil for attitude towards the russian, well, this is how it happens, first they created authority, then this authority drives a certain narrative into the head , this is the moment, that’s when the soviet union collapsed, and the countries gained independence, let’s say they were in the first period, for example, they were taught for 8 years to be independent, that is, people there were taught for 8 years, we are independent , we are independent, let’s not be so nostalgic, we are independent , for the next 8 years... they were taught we are special,
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we are special, we are special, for the next 8 years they were told, russia is to blame, russia attacked, we are special, we are independent, it has always been like this, we are special, but russia is to blame for everything, now and so on, plus yushchenko comes, 2004 early 2005 earlier in the revolution, that is, society was not ready yet kill each other, yushchenko occupied a strictly pro-western position in terms of ukraine, that is... bandera the hero , the holodomor, these narratives were worked out as much as possible at the state level, a purely eastern dude immediately came, yanukovych, yes, who came, and even azarov, once in one of the interviews he said this in agreement with the americans, that is , they rocked the boat one way and the other, if before that the presidents were, as it were, for the whole country, but here they created a sharp contrast, plus they were already heating up the famine, bandera the hero, and so on and then , when society was ready. here's the east
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