and yes, that means our ancestor took such a hermitic, monastic path , he decided never to leave this room again, he lived for quite a few years, the war was already over, people were already walking there simply with requests, prayers and so on, and the prayers were miraculous, so they loved him, hid him and so on, and even after the war and so on, he did not come out into the world, and he did this with his life... the lord took him, well, i say, of course, we really need to continue such an ancestor, and we called our john the eldest son, ivan, and the youngest is born, that is, we choose, yes, we choose a name for the second child, that’s it, we try, that means we are looking for names and so on, at some point tanya says, i came up with an idea, please don’t talk me out of it, if you love me, then you will agree, i say, well, wait, well, i have to know, well, here you go, here it is, this will be mine, leave

it to me, please, so i say, yes, i’m not me, i should know, it’s just that when you leave, i feel so lonely, i want at least little dimochka to be with me, i say, no, no, no, please, no, i want it to be mine, dima dyuzhev, so 3d was born, dmitry dmitrievich dyuzhev, completely opposite to his eldest son, who, uh, activity, artistic decision. scream, whiskey, dance, pretend, get dressed, dress up, suddenly perform something, this is completely different, i say, tanya, you said that i don’t behave like that at home, who does he look like, and then tanya said, yes , the science of psychology is powerless in this sense, but i want to tell you, with your energy, do you think tanya is easy with you in general, i think it’s generally unbearable to be with me, right?

unbearable, unbearable to anyone, well, you know, i also live in a happy marriage, 30 years old, nothing was missing from the house, so i think that we are all very lucky, and in the marital status column i am happy to write hopeless, so we will endure , dima, tanchika, we endure, we endure, how do we do what we can, what we must, how did seven russian actors survive the attack of a cynical fake, russian actor? died right during the performance, to be honest, i immediately thought that they were scammers, death any film actor receives a huge number of responses, i was told that you will live a long time, why the pedagogical landing faced massive threats from ukraine, i received a lot of negative messages, it was done in order to maintain a degree of hatred and a degree of conflict, and the story of a russian woman , who very soon may become a member of the bundestag, anti-fake prime minister, tomorrow

on the first day, brothers, the commander’s son was born, by the end, sometimes there are no names left, a nut to crack, those who accepted mortal combat were given in the back just grass on the ground when we’re driving, alyosha, just a formidable house. officers on november 4th on the first, what kind of profession is this? to defend my homeland for drumming,

i need to learn from larisa, how? sing the star: season premiere, november 6, on the first. dear friends, this is a podcast of the melodies of my life, today we are learning about the main melodies of our guest, dmitry dyuzhev, dim, i can’t help but feel like i’m, uh, you invited me. on the set of the film of my

life, such a presentation, just absolutely like that, you know, uh, well, we worked with you on the set, you remember, i filmed with you, i filmed and film champions. the only role in a big movie is the film champions, the film consists of a novel and one of the novels was shot as director dmitry, this is your directorial debut, yes, this is the second higher education, i graduated and i played myself, fragments of the olympics, figure skating, was this segment is dedicated to where i performed the song 700 above the earth invited, great, we enjoyed it, today we continue. the amazing energy of goodwill from dmitry dyuzhev still brought me to such a tactful question, when dmitry is sad, what

melody do you associate with this state, well, in general, i really love classical music, opera, and maybe some kind of nadir’s aria from... the opera pearl seekers, so, something that -that’s how it feels with all my heart, i can’t, i have no desire to interrupt your performance, it’s just that everything is going right, tell me, on the stage, what is it but i... i’ve spent a lot of my life traveling on regular buses, these were moscow-astrakhon and moscow berlin and moscow holland, and moscow all over europe, everything is by bus, somehow everything is by bus, i don’t know, even at some point you could already

afford a plane ticket, financially, but still here’s a bus, you know, maybe , in first class, my dad said, i found a job, escorting cargo, on a huge alka, a kamaz truck loaded with watermelons or tomatoes from astrakhan, he accompanied the cargo along with the driver, i’m still at a loss, this is either some kind of truck driver, what this is some kind of guy and he always took me with him, and after that, after that he worked on the barge, and astrakhon moscow, we accompanied the cargo on the barge, also tomatoes, watermelons, and uh, somehow in all these travels i’m so sad, and sadness is because you’re away from home, where are you -something on a trip, but you will still return someday, this was something , for which you can’t guess what he will choose now, an association, well, with nikolai rastorguev, yes,

this is his song, the road, you know so much , so, and when there was some sadness, it really pressed me. there behind the fogs, just a second, this is igor matvienko, to the verses of alexander shaganov, absolutely, because this is the main author of lyube, well, come on seryozh, that e minor, yes, come on, the blue sea, only the sea astern, where the sea is and it’s a long way home, there beyond

foggy, eternally drunk, there behind the foggy shores is my native shore, there behind the foggy ones, eternal drunken ones, there behind the foggy shores is our native shore in russian and such a broad melody, it ’s something and some kind of associative and in general the mentality was like that in the nineties, everywhere some kind of threat was waiting for you, danger, everywhere someone had to answer, hold the rod everywhere, say, this is your choice, now i understand that i just needed to see for at least a second. 30 dmitry dyuzhev, in order to, uh, understand that there is no need to look for another person for the role of space, the brigade, and then how it happened, this is his majesty of chance or his majesty of chance, well, really, then in the youth theater, i worked in the theater for young spectators,

and by the way, i’m sorry that i didn’t ask, but your first theatre, how is it a theater, uh-huh, well, when i was a student, on the third or fourth course, we received practice on the lenkom stage, they prophesied to us that, in general, after graduating from the institute, we could remain in the same capacity, the same involvement, the same, well... it was clear that in the next 10 years, perhaps you will receive replicas and they won’t give you phrases, but i really wanted to start trying to play, start trying out the character, i don’t know, a psychological portrait, a medical record of your character, this is necessary, and if you are not in the genre of pantomime, then you should, so to speak, learn to play monologues, which i yes, i went to youth, i showed in different theaters,

but then henrieta naumovna, a most talented director, her half is kama ginkos, this is a director from the edge, in general, of a theatrical laboratory, i am a fan of such directing , so i was happy that they took me then, but the first thing i encountered was this there were, of course, animals, i remind you that we are talking about how you got into the brigade, in what form, in what form? i saw an animal, we had some kind of a get-together until the morning, something like that, i came home in the morning, and i was renting a room in a three-room apartment, then my mother came to visit me, i didn’t have a mobile phone yet, it was around 2000, but there was a home phone, and my mother met me at 6 in the morning, saying, dimochka, they called you in the evening from a mass film, they are inviting you to a casting for some series of bandits, something like that , i... said you will come at 10:00 i say mom yes i ate i’m standing mom where

will i come well you lie down and i’ll really wake you up mom woke me up there at 90 i quickly washed my face got dressed combed my hair with mineral water on the minibus to mosfilm - k in the office it says tv series brigade and what mom said you shouldn’t go there come in so that it’s not from you, but you say open the door a little and there a little to the side, say: i’ve appeared, you called, and tomorrow i ’ll come to you with a cucumber, but today, oops, such a moment seemed not to have been warned, so that’s what i did , i opened the door slightly, the director of the sidrov brigade was sitting there and said, hello, so you invited me , but at the moment i was not very warned, so tomorrow i’ll come to you, he says , come in, come in, come in, i say, no, not tomorrow, tomorrow, he says, come on, come on, come on bolder, i say, well, just the situation is this, he says: come on, you know, i need one like that, i say, well

, to be honest, uh, i just got home at 6 in the morning, no, well, you’ll play me something like that, i say, well, you pour it the night before , then i ’ll sleep for 2 hours and in the morning i’ll come to the set just like that, well, we worked with him, and he says, i’ll immediately approve you for the role of a fly. this is a role for the first two episodes, an anti-hero for sasha bely, and i was happy, i came home, i said, mom, i was approved for the role of a fly, and then remember, there was such a famous fantastic film, where a man was flying around, something like that, and then turned into a fly, yeah, i say, mom, they entrusted me with the role of a fly, she says, why are you a movie son? start your biography with insects, ask for a role with the words your mother said, yes, what are you going to buzz and buzz

about, i say, but that’s not the nickname, it means some kind of bandit, you have to be a bandit, that’s all, and then they call, he says, dmitry, we we are looking for the main role of sasha belov, an actor, we need a partner, could you play along with us for camera, you have time, i say , yes there is time, well, i came, well, 2 days for 3-4 hours, well, about 50 people, probably, passed the actors who auditioned for sasha. white, and i was behind the operator, behind the camera, just in the corner, in the dark, that is, what is called giving lines, well, at some point i memorized it, learned it, well, i already started playing something there, improvising, and cider , i’m not needed at all, here the attention is already there , and he periodically says, dima, here , just a little bit, move here, okay, why should he, well, i moved, yes, now this, and now this, now this , periodically gives me something, i something.

decided to audition you for space, i then say, you know, i’m so happy that you gave me the role of a fly for two small episodes, i’ve never played a big role in a movie, so i’m a bird in the hand than a pie in the sky , give me this volume, which is how i feel, i can do it, but for 15 episodes , one of the main ones... colleagues, i may not be able to cope, i may let you down, so it’s better to leave me like a fly, they say, young man, you come, we'll figure it out, we'll figure it out. a you knew exactly this film with sergei bezruk, but you had several high-security holidays and then, well, it’s clear, that is, you then got caught several times, then you were

temporarily unavailable, we worked together , and besides, what did you offer the director me as a second partner, so in general, it’s incredible to have such a person , they say, i would like to say to our tv viewers, it’s very useful to be open to the difficulties of accomplishments, because sometimes fate can play out with you in such a scenario that you could not imagine it’s complicated, it’s really like that, dim, we ’re approaching this final moment of our program, a melody of joy, yeah. dmitry dyuzhev, oh, valer, i confess to you, honestly, i love you, to the point of tears, i adore your work, i adore the way you speak, the way you sing, the way you move, the way you hold, i love you to the point of tears, how you, yes, how do you, how do you compose, how do you, in general

, valer, you, you are an unbeliever, i, well, forgive me, a little younger than you, here are my years at school, my graduation at the theater institute, what - there are big holidays there, this is a song, a song, this has always been bravo, bravo, what - romantics, romantics, you know, we've been singing this song recently. dim, we wrote this song, a young man came up to me and said: “thank you, valery milach, for your songs, especially for the ldpr,” i was so surprised, i didn’t write anything for the ldpr, in general , and there weren’t even any requests nothing on the other side, but it turned out that he meant the abbreviation, love girls, simple romantics, you understand, therefore, for our

tv viewers, together with dmitry and sergei asokin we. let's do it with pleasure, love girls, simple romantics, i wrote the text for this song, therefore, i will now perform it with pleasure for you, in the most complete calm in the most severe hurricane, ships sail in the blue sea, maybe that’s why the mariks understand what the magic of love is, these brave understandings don’t have a problem, be kind to them, help the star, love girls, simple romantics, cheeky cagers, and moriks, leave girls, domestic boys, you shouldn’t give them your

love, don’t give them your love, dmitry dyuzhev in the program melody of my life, thank you, dear tv viewers for being with us, if you missed something, look at the website of the first channel 1tv.ru, it was a podcast melody of my life, thank you, dim, valery setkin, hello, this is a podcast of the psyche and we continue to put together our psychological puzzles, no matter what they concern. today is the expert of our meeting, doctor of science, family psychologist, andrei zaberovsky, hello,

andrei, good afternoon, father artyom, who came to us with a request that now confidently responds in the heart. well, almost every parent, let's just say: how to tear off a child from a gadget? it's like that? absolutely, why are you going to tear the child away from the carriage? i have a daughter, she’s in her eleventh year, eva, she’s a wonderful child, but 95% of her time she spends her time on the phone, on the computer, she watches endless video hosting sites, she plays some games, these games are not good, plus, right now ... in these internets of yours, yes , yes, well, i, yes, yes, in these, in these internets of yours, in ours, yes, yes, ah, there are some maniacs there, well, the girl is there, there this constantly has to be monitored and any other action, and my wife and i are trying to take her to a music school, take her to dances there, to a modeling agency, she does it all

, she basically succeeds, but it’s more interesting there, yes, in this world of hers it’s more interesting, let’s figure it out, still, what worries you more is the fact that she is sitting on the phone or the content that she consumes from there , what worries me is that this is almost all of her free time, any other action causes opposition from her, we live in sochi, let's go , let's go and go shopping at the seaside, it's better i still need to finish playing something here, watch almost any action , she constantly wants, this is your beauty, yes, this is my beauty, after all, you didn’t answer my question, what really bothers you, then the time she spends with a gadget or the content she gets, if she were sitting on her phone or tablet, but at the same time watching some good films or some... cool tutorials or some i don’t know films educational about travel, educational games, you would was that less of a concern?

probably less, but there is too much of this and there is nothing else practically, there is nothing else, i would actually look at this problem from different aspects, because in my opinion both are important, it is important what our children do in gadgets and how much they spend time , we’ll probably start, let’s start with... from your scientific point of view, what today in your opinion, at the moment, poses a greater threat to the child, the gadget itself or the content? we must understand that gadget mania, which is now has spread, the term has already spread and there is already newspapermania, which has become relevant in the last decade, it is connected with the fact that for our psyche, there has been a proverb for a long time, it is better to see once than to hear 100 times. in this regard, video information is digestible, it is very easy for a person to perceive, especially a child , whose brain has not yet reached

the working mode of an adult, in this regard, because when we read a book, when we read a word that is a complex symbol , which is unpacked in our brain, and this requires certain analytical work, you need to connect the word with other words, otherwise video content, any video content, it enters the brain very easily, it allows you to absorb it all in a relaxed mode, as they say, it’s natural, we are a little lenin people, yes, what is easier for us, i’ll interrupt you, not only lazy people, you know, what would a colleague, an evolutionary psychologist, tell us now, he would immediately draw our attention to the obvious thing, he is moving evolution, this is not about that, look what evolutionary would tell them psychologist, that the ability to see something, look, see, collect. brain picture, but we understand when we look, yes, we have a variety of parts of the brain involved, yes , some are responsible for taking information, others for comparing it, the third for completing the image, this

was a machine of incredible complexity given to us by nature by god, yes, we were born with it, reading is something we learn, no, moreover, we are not born, a child is born with the ability to see, to hear, but with the ability to read. the child is not born, but he was not born, you understand, yes, if you don’t teach him, he won’t be , that is, for a person, it’s not even that he’s lazy, it’s just natural for him to watch, to hear, that’s all, you see, as you rightly say, yes, it’s not just to see the letters s, it means to reduce them into a certain word, take the word and place it in some part of the brain, which will pull out the meanings, compare them, this is, well, this. a gigantic job, why do it, when, here you go, everything is shown here , what you say is all very cool, there is scientific

progress, i understand what comes there, i don’t want her to read a bunch of books there, i want me to have a child, for the child to be social, for the child to communicate with parents, with dad, with mom, eat on time, i happily went to the sections there and plus she spends 2-3 hours working on gadgets, she is there all the time, all the time there, a child stole a gadget from you, well, that’s what it is. zhetamaniya yes, which we said, well, let’s take the second side: on the one hand, it is easier for a child’s brain to perceive video information than to read books, on the other hand, you need to understand that the creators of these video games, video worlds of entire video universes, yes, game universes , are also specialists, psychologists of a very good level, who, of course , model human emotions, because the main specificity - so to speak, of such gadgetomania - is the fact that the child is emotionally involved in the game. he receives those emotions that in ordinary life, even with a very warm parental relationship with a child in the family, he will not receive, how

super-bright these colors are, yes, super... emotional so now we have a really good topic , because millions of parents are faced with what artyom will face, because with ordinary instruments, that is, music school, drawing, an evening walk in the park, with a child, from a gadget, from a child’s play can’t be taken away, because you won’t give these emotions, so i want to say right away, as a practicing psychologist , that in this situation, if a child has really been... emotionally dependent on the game for years, has become such a gaming addict, let’s do it to be honest, the same centers of the brain are involved, this addiction is located on the gadget, exactly in the same place where the addiction to alcohol, sweets or drug dependence is located, they are in this case, that is, you are like dad, with the full support of your wife, you must offer your child something that will be emotionally acute for him, that

can be an alternative to those... emotions that the game gives, in this situation, i will cite this recent vector, and what is he, i can’t even imagine what he should to make it comparable in such a volume, you know, she always has a gadget at hand, and there is this flurry of emotions, it is in huge quantities in a bottomless way, this is what dad should do, that is, he should arrange every day and some... then quests and adventures, so that she already said one, one wonderful word that we use in practice, so i’ll give it. several cases this year, let’s say, yes, in one situation, there is a child, also a girl, a little older than your daughter, and we suggested that dad and mom began to actively attend quests, that is, this story is now developed in almost any city, quests, and now, fortunately, this is already an inexpensive story, that is, they began systematically every weekend, attracting girls’ friends, that is, to assemble such a micro-group, go on quests that give

very, very emotional and scary... the reaction is yes, because quests are most often built on such things, on fears, and there, on overcoming some obstacles, well, too, so i personally have questions for our majority of our quests, but this is a topic for another, i also have a question, yes, but in any case this is a lesser evil, but in a situation when the child’s studies have already gone well, when the child’s emotional sphere has gone wrong, because again, artyom correctly said that getting addicted to gadgets gives a child a negative aggressive reaction to being distracted from the game, because the child simply begins to irritate. in this situation , let it be a quest, i have her in conflict, yeah, that is, she needs to have a conflict there with her mother, she was like that or she became and was, but more, more becomes, she conflicts with her peers quite often, and i understood why she needs emotions, she needs strong emotions

there, so that they push her, there somehow, this is what she needs, yes, this is exactly what she needs to get endorphin, not there are enough of these emotions in normal life, she needs conflict, that’s why artyom, using standard, standard techniques, like dancing, singing, something else, you won’t solve the problem, you need to give the child alternative emotions that are manageable, but legal, that don’t create problems for her life, but it is emotion, regular trip... on a weekend on a bicycle, but not just here to ride around the district, but 50, 100 kilometers, these are, accordingly, other territories there, and with an overnight stay somewhere in these roadside motels, it’s scary for the child, the child opens peace, the child is interested, again, if he is traveling with his parents or you can again take with you a certain number of girlfriends, friends, it ’s just an acute emotion that can be controlled, i repeat, this is not a problematic emotion, but an acute emotion, only it will allow

find something for the child... alternative to toys, this is exactly the problem with parents, they follow the usual path, which does not work. andrey, let me clarify, this needs to be done constantly, or is it like a reboot, we are saying so that our dear listeners do not be afraid of us, we are talking about a transition period, a period when we remove this very dependence temporarily, yes, and then of course, we lower the speed a little and introduce the child into a more systematic normal activity, but at the stage of separation of the child, who is deeply immersed... in play activity, this is unfortunately necessary, my wife is a super traveler, even i don’t fall into her rhythm , so i don’t go on all her trips, but the child goes with her , this year they traveled to bukhara, tashkent, samarkant, it was all on some terrible schedule, they visited kyrgyzstan, they flew in, so what’s the point, she came to the hotel, demanded the internet, this is a podcast of the psyche

, my name is natalya loseveva, i am a journalist, expert, family psychologist, doctor of science, andrei sberovsky, our guest artyom tikhomirov, the father of eleven-year-old eva, we are talking how to break the child out of the captivity of gadgets. have you tried sending your daughter to some kind of sport? i took my child to wrestling at one time, but then i couldn’t come to an agreement with my wife, because she said that after all, it’s a girl and wrestling isn’t exactly good, but the girl liked it, it was interesting, my girl kindergarten likes boys, and there, thank god, it’s okay to be happy for you in this case, but there were so many boys there, she of course liked it, she liked it there, well, as if it wasn’t a section, i mean, like some kind section, it was still a school of soviet training, classical wrestling, but unfortunately my wife and i could not agree, so if you now, so to speak, from the rostrum of the first channel say that natasha,

the child should be sent to the wrestling section, then perhaps she will listen, no, well, it’s not necessary to fight, well, listen, you all need, it seems to me, the three of us will agree, especially since when the child is 11 years old, i already think her voice can be taken into account, of course, and the most important thing is... debate is precisely that highly emotional activity precisely the presence, if you even more so say that the child has a certain conflict there, a certain request for something so sharp around her, then she should receive it, without having received it in such a legal useful mode in the same highly emotional sport, that’s why based on work experience, let’s say mine, again, in such cases i advise not just sports, but sports where there is a team, volleyball, basketball, football, that is, where there is still energy, conflict. because any group activity is a conflict, in this case the child is just will receive, will get those very emotions that a child may not get, well, in real life, if he is so highly emotional, so this is the thesis our dear listeners should hear, that

alternative emotional activity is needed, each child can have it individually , yes, that is, you need to understand that for someone, a panda park of some kind, where there are climbing frames, respectively, or a climbing wall, will give a dull emotion and... will distract someone from the game with something more, well, sporty or more educational, by the way, in this situation, here when you described that your daughter, your wife, went on very interesting trips, maybe they didn’t work enough in the situation that you could , together with your daughter, read the history of these countries and cities where they are going, and accordingly, looking at something is educational and maybe in the mode of a real trip it would be included in just those very educational materials, the next topic that i would like to discuss with you, if little by little, is what is called about culture. labor, yes, this can also happen, but this is the path that, in my opinion, makes sense

go through, especially since the child is an adult, try to come to an agreement, and say, listen, look, let ’s look at this, look at this, look what i found, i found, look what a cool quest on the phone that improves physics, moreover, now there are probably a lot of such toys... here i will reveal your thesis to you in unison, because here it is important not just to go with the child into some educational topic, i recommend that parents still try to determine a possible profession and the child’s self-realization, i emphasize, is in depending on the age of your child, of course we can make a mistake, the child ’s interests and goals may change five times more, but nevertheless, if we even preliminary outline some kind of goal, then with the child, look for some specific ones. programs on the same internet there, correspondingly tied to the task that you want to become a great businessman or chemist or physicist or someone else, let’s look at materials that will be useful to you and this will naturally, positively affect your grades at school,

here then we will interest the child better than just like parents say: well, i would like to see something educational there, well, look how much interesting it is, the child just doesn’t have a request for something simple yet, he wants to have a practical aspect, so if we add... to the educational programs also a target task child, his game in the profession, we will show the usefulness of gaining additional knowledge, it is advisable that this goal is probably closer, yes, that is, sometime in 10 years it will be useful to you, this will be useful to you this year, it is already the second time she has been with us year on programming, you know what one of the most prestigious, creative professions is called a game designer, these are people who come up with...

physics, chemistry, because you must not only come up with some kind of scenario, but you must understand, for example, for you, the action takes place on the moon, but how will an object on the moon come into contact with the surface? moon with what strength? in fact, artyom, in your case, if your child really has such a creative, imaginative imagination, plus the child went to programming, you can actually say, child, you can be a successful person, earn good money, but in this case, let's look at these games without getting emotionally involved, treat it like an expert, look at the game, what can be done with take it to create your own game, create your own virtual world, in this case, if you start. talk to your child about this, daughter, what kind

of world would you come up with, but let’s come up with a set of plots, a set of characters, what kind of characters they will have, what they will overcome if you teach your child to write down his thoughts, you can create such a mini family laboratory to discuss some new scenarios, new moves, maybe this will gradually captivate your child and then we will really get a bright, successful specialist in creating the quietest gaming realities, and we will solve your problems ... problems and the child will get a prestigious profession in the future and will take those subjects at school that will be important for this, this is actually a very good correct scenario, god forbid that it will be yes, but she doesn’t watch my content, where you can sort of say, there’s thomas sawyer, i don’t know, what we watched there, there ’s the adventure of petrov vasechkin, she watches the same bloggers, narrow-minded, who are now filled with everything , and accordingly, she copies them, and to attract her, let’s watch... i don’t know a movie with you there , she’s not interested in timur and his team, and

there’s one more point that’s also important, i wanted to discuss with a psychologist the only way to control it my child now - it’s either as a reward, give a gadget as a punishment accordingly, there is no other way to turn off the internet and of course we use it, that is, we did our homework, turned on the internet, got a bad mark, there will be no internet today, we come to the theater for a beautiful ice show, where, well, we watch the circus, the child is on the fifteenth, second, third for a minute she just falls asleep, that’s it, she wakes up when everyone claps and that’s it, that’s it, because you described the picture when a child is already dependent, yes, getting those emotions, he doesn’t fall asleep there, because he doesn’t compete with these, yes, real life cannot compete, that’s what we said right at the beginning of our conversation, that parental efforts are so reasonable. a beautiful distraction with something standard, what they were distracted with in childhood, no longer works

, so artyom, in this case, i advise you, you can still, child, let us have this kind of transitional period, or such a transitional type of activity, here you are played a game there, spend 15 minutes or half an hour there to tell your mom and me about what you played there, what alternatives are possible there you would have done this game differently, we are trying to verbalize this game, we are trying to make it more intellectual. andrey, she really wants to copy these bloggers , she repeats, i say, let’s shoot beautifully, mom will support the light, i will support the camera, we’ll do everything beautifully, let’s see what kind of background we have, so let’s create it somehow, write the script , her mother tells her, i say, i’m ready to help, let’s do it with pleasure, we’re ready to participate, we filmed something there, whatever she says. categorically refuses our

participation, the fact that she, the content that she produces, that is, she also makes some kind of content, yes, well, like almost all schoolchildren now, she makes content, and what is there, what is she doing there that is good, interesting, that was that you liked it, that in general, i’m glad that she does this action, that she not only absorbs, but tries to give something to this world, i really like that she has these heroes, games, these videos, cartoons, she draws them, i don’t like that he draws... only these characters and no others, and she’s good at it it turned out well, well, to draw the same characters for two years, and you told her and you said when, that you like what he draws, moreover, she draws these characters much better than she went to art school for 2 years school, she spent more time on them, and you again suggested telling the child, here you are doing some kind of activity, but let ’s do this activity at a more professional level, a good stylist, we can find you

an interesting design for your clothes, we can i’ll try to hire an animator who animates your drawings, i’m sorry, there was a photograph, well, here’s the first photograph , my wife is engaged in photography, at first as an amateur, now she’s growing up, she takes photographs of her, get the child to take pictures with mikups, that means in the studio, but this also needs to be said there that you won’t go only... the internet, well, how am i supposed to be born ? well, there’s a very important person here , they’re torturing you, and return your passport . there’s a very important nuance if you’ve tried at least once or twice. to professionalize a little what she films, try to raise the quality of this content at the expense of other people there, and at the expense of specialists, show the child that you watch, what you film yourself gets roughly 500 views, and what we did with the involvement of a professional, gave immediately there 1,500 or there 5,500, then maybe here

is the main currency, likes are the main currency for it, if you and your wife come up with it now, really without fools, like... these were the attempts on your part, have you tried? here once again, when there was a noticeable increase in content, i myself am partly involved in journalism, when we started trying experiments with the internet, with youtube, the first thing my daughter did, she destroyed it, she had access to my youtube channel, she erased everything my video, from which there were 100-200. and you’re a little aggressor, and for me, that is, well, i didn’t even hit her , well, it seems to me that you just didn’t realize the shock of it , that is, everything that he himself did as a video blogger , this child came in as a destructor, you know, and

simply destroyed a competitor, you know, just literally erased, she said, i thought dad you didn’t need this video anymore. this is a psychic podcast, my name is natalya loseva, i am a journalist, our expert, family psychologist , doctor of science, andrei sberovsky, our guest, artyom tikhomirov, the father of eleven-year-old eva, we are talking about how to free a child from the captivity of gadgets. artyoma, look, now your child undoubtedly has some group of those bloggers whom she follows , who is an authority for her, in this situation, you, as an adult, smart dad, wife, you can contact one of these bloggers, what do you know, my daughter is a fan, she draws well there, she understands something quite well about this story, maybe you need some kind of assistant there, yes , it’s possible, a person there who will be useful for you too, like dear blogger, can you write to my daughter or call my daughter, in fact, especially

through her dad, through her mother, or directly through her, if she has such an understandable nickname on social networks there or somewhere else, and say, listen, girl, let's do it there or what i did here on a more professional level with your participation, it’s rated, it’s, it’s more interesting , accordingly, now there’s direct contact, that is, you are like dad and mom, unfortunately, let’s be honest, the child is apparently not in authority, not because you are bad parents, because the child has other authorities that were imposed on her by 11 years old, it is normal that now for her there are some close in age, these bloggers, showing such fantasy. we can involve them in the pedagogical process, in this case we can make them yours ally, that is, my advice is not to counter such an attack, but a frontal, conflict one, which will only push you apart, because the model is either turned on or

turned off, this model is a dead end, unfortunately, it can work, but for a limited time , until adolescence at 14-15 years old, your daughter will simply start secrets for herself. telephone, as if they won’t take you into account at all, so find some kind of expert, benevolent, adequate from this internet world, try to involve her in some kind of activity, that is, let’s try to find an ally, because for psychology, the most important thing is to find an ally in communication with a child, try this resource, but how, but how will it free up the girl’s time from the gadget, because this is another problem, what the girl spends almost all her time... but if we make this communication and spending time manageable, if we attach practical benefits to this, when the child will not just waste time, but learn something that will help him in his studies, will allow you to get a profession, child, again

but when an experienced, say, blogger says, child, i’ll tell you right away, if you play there for more than two or three hours, you will lose your eyesight, you will lose your other skills, like communication and other skills, that is we need authority, but if i understood you correctly, then the strategy is something like this: in order to free a child from the captivity of this thoughtless gadget of pastime, and from this black hole, we need a hook, that is, we are looking for something to cling to, where we have a resource, we have a resource what we have is that she doesn’t just watch , she’s still smart and well done, she produces her own content, and this is a hook for you and me now that we need to grab onto, right? you need to push, maybe then the strategy is such that we say, dear, you’re doing great , really the world of gadgets of this internet content is your world, you ’re doing great, doing digital things, but you need, then either artyom and his wife, or, as you say, one of these allies, they tell her, listen, you live in

sochi, maybe you can make a series of mini-videos about your extreme parks, about your watering holes, that is, make her spend more time on producing content, so we did something like this and what do i like, but she doesn’t like it? what she can do, then listen to what andrey says, let him praise her, even for this content, so i actually would like to use the platform of the first channel and appeal to bloggers, dear bloggers, who are engaged in children's content, please, well, somehow contact me because i the child needs you to say that she’s doing great and that she spends more time in the family, and not on these internets of yours, not only in the family, but to do something, to do something exactly, including, by the way, artyom , in this case, here’s some more advice: he’s filming some content about his hometown, he can also get money for it, i emphasize, i

immediately understand that the competition in this field is very strong, it can be very difficult to actually get through to these grants, but again, i know examples of parents who acted out this a miniature, and such a micro-scene, the child said, let’s apply, we actually applied, we didn’t win anything, but the parents tell the child, listen, and you won, that is, we are deceiving the child a little, manipulating in a good... sense of the word, we say that we have been allocated a certain budget, this is your budget, the parents’ budget, this is some 5-10,000, relatively speaking, that is, we are not talking about millions, and we say, here we have a task, we have a technical task, which we must implement, and then she must understand and it is advisable that if she finds out, hears, she already knows, she will hear from some strangers, but of course it’s cool for you to compete, your mother is a professional photographer, your dad is a journalist, well, it’s understandable with such team. you will do better, that is, she must understand through some other people that she does not have a dad and mom, such edifying

ones run around on the grid, which means they are flapping their wings, that the gadget stole our child, and dad and mom are, in principle, allies , they can be used, in this case, the child increases his authority, he feels responsible, because leadership is responsible, and i repeat to us, this is the most important element, this is practice-oriented, if we find orientation in real life of what the child does in the gadget, if we we pull from the internet from virtuality into reality, in this reality it is monetized with real money or real praise, then this is that new emotional dependence, but it is correct, because it does not push the child from reality and, on the contrary, returns to this reality, everything you said, thank you very much, i hope that this program will serve as a lesson for her that she took my mother and me to her team of bloggers or developers there, it doesn’t matter, but

the most important thing is that i would like to say, here’s andrey, i have two children, i have an eldest daughter, who is already 23 years old, and the children are growing up very quickly, everything we are saying here is great, making money there, getting a grant, do it there, a cool project on youtube, well, i already understand that i want to be a dad, to be with my little daughter , who is already 11 years old, who... in 5 years she will already be an adult, i would say, no, no, well, that’s it, i just really want to receive and give love to this daughter your parental love to her, because the time of childhood is very short, artyom, but there is only one way, this is to create a platform for joint activities in which the child will be involved and which is precisely a conflict-free form of interaction, this is actually what this will give you here parental feeling, with a child, by the way, i want, i continue your request in this case there and to our listeners, including bloggers, i want to say one more thing.