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[000:00:00;00] rise and clap, clap and hit him on the cheeks, and he began to cry, at this time there was a montage and lyudmila markovna, he is in tears, he is in her apartment, this dog was also voiced howling, he too, this one is crying, and he lies like that and, he’s sobbing and crying, suddenly he’s such a fucking cat, he forgot, but he seems to have turned on the washing machine, and this machine was done like that, there’s a balance with... and this washing machine is jumping around the apartment and he’s on she sits down and doesn’t understand anything what to do, he says and there he says madly with the salshit of this also no, everything was cut out, why do i remember this, i don’t know why , but you probably had something, you, i obviously watched some kind of work show of the entire material, and by the way, you often watched work shows, yes, i remember all these
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scenes as they were on the screen, and that you were jumping on this washing machine, it was oh, we were like that, all this and i cried, i was talking to valodia, and why was it cut out, this is not an anti-alcohol footage, now there will be two episodes with the most terrible ones, you know what happened, everything was washed away, the negative, everything was washed away, these ones that have already come out, everything, nothing bring it back, such cruelty, not a single review was positive, what a mockery of the russian peasant, why , after 40 years, this fashion appeared in france, these boots, they turned out to be legislators, and then it was just like that, they humiliated them so much, volodya too he, he was in such a state, we didn’t have a single festival, not a single award, not a single one, there was nothing, it’s as if this picture doesn’t exist, listen, what scene
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are you most offended for that wasn’t included? the bar is very beautiful and the bar scene is when everyone they’re sitting, yes, it’s so funny, we laughed so much, well, you should see their faces, how they played, all this, how it was, the synchronization is full in tubes, the condemning sound seems to be almost pointing with a finger, this is an image, it’s intact, well there were many, many, i remember some kind of new year's light, where you seem to meet gurchenko after many, many years, it was as if he sold a new version after something like 20 years had passed there, she walks at the station, something so random, such a harlot, that means she walks around the station, meets vasya with a pigeon in his suitcase, well, that’s it a remake, not a remake, just a continuation, a meeting after a certain number of years, well, it was so unfortunate, but the people were very funny, but it’s so funny, it’s so touching, it’s talented, and my favorite
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scene, you know, that’s not strange, this dream, when... when the two of them fall asleep next to each other, she says, electro-sleep, yes , electro-sleep, it’s very, something just made me feel like my head, and i was snoring, you had some other thing, it was some kind of- then, and these and these devices are still in pyatigorsk, in my opinion, they filmed it somewhere there, all these devices are from there. times, this scene, when i also know that some bigwigs at the top were against this scene, where at the end you and nina doroshina are literally having a picnic there, where the flowers are blooming, it was there that the magicians charged, yes the magicians charged, not
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everything has been opened, yes, let's see, vasenka, nadenka, vasenka, nadenka, vasenka, nadenka, vasenka, nadya, lasenka , what are you, vasenka, are you right now or something, but now there are interesting precedents like this film set? when the actors are thrown in by the director or now everything is clear according to the timing, according to the script, well, look what director, look what, now i starred in some sulfur films with raf, i played there, uh, an alcoholic singing, an alcoholic singing, he gets drunk, so a good alcoholic sings, i i wrote and recorded, in my opinion, 11 or 12 songs, now they are making a continuation of seven more episodes, and i will sing eight more songs there, i’m in my
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hoarse... voice, an old man’s voice, so to speak, getting pleasure, and he’s like that here, he has his own world, he has his own world, his own world of this beauty, melody, like this. very reverent and the director is very flexible, he goes for many things, i really like it, it’s great , returning to this little moment, vasya kuzyakin meets lyudmila markovna, after many years, now many films are being remade, remakes are being made, yes, how would you react if it were bad, i’m bad, we continue with the people’s artist of the russian soviet federative socialist republic, with my father alexander mikhailov, i’m trying... remember when i you for the first time captured it, and the flashback is the first to emerge, this is usnarva, the lighthouse, you come from hungary, tanned, uh-huh, for the first time with a beard, yes
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, i was a werewolf, let go, then, yes, yes, yes, yes, he brought me a plastic hammer like that, which made, sounds, sounds, yes, such sounds, i remember the second time, when you took me to filming, they were waiting for me at... i remember how in saratov, oh, wow, we had this elka, yes, a dog, elka , dal terrier, brilliant, i remember how you first pushed me in a sled along the frozen, snowy volga, and then the thought came, harness the elka in the sled, and you i ran away, called her, she ran and gave me a sled ride, yes, yes, i remember how you brought a tape recorder from france, a single-cassette, g100 , i remember right now, but what, i don’t remember, such a small cassette player, i brought a hairdryer for my mother, orange, and french magazines, this was the first gloss in my life, you brought some more chewing gum, several blocks of different
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ones, oh well, i stuck them on the shaphaner, on the closet, but i found it, and so i lived, i calmly stole it, yes, more moreover, he himself stole them and distributed them to his classmates in order to... deserve this - unsteady, unreliable friendship based on envy, oh how interesting, look at this, how interesting, i remember how the whole family sat, made dumplings for the whole winter, filled the freezer all winter, ate them then, yes, yes, yes, and you just tried the raw minced meat , yes, i want to get even better at you, maybe i ’ve put a little pressure on you, but it doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter. there was more, more, something would have been missed, something i missed, and although i am very grateful to fate, and you are great, you created yourself, when now, well, sometimes they call,
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they greet you like that, they say, and i’m with a bone yours i’m familiar, and i’m so proud that you didn’t become an alcoholic, not a drug addict, i didn’t become a drug addict, it’s also thanks to you, because i remember this wonderful moment when i came, it was marina roshcha and me too, naturally i was in my teenage years, tried everything, and i swallowed some stupid pills, came, big eyes like a cat from shrek, smile from ear to ear, but i didn’t understand you, then i realized that not later, i still had the torn one in my hands a capacitor from a fluorescent lamp , from which acid flows, i’m laughing, you opened the door, at first you didn’t understand what, but then you realized by the pupils and how you slapped me a juicy, good slap, still, and broke your finger, in me, and your forehead clicked a little and the cracks a little -
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it clicked a little, but it still clicks, by the way, journalists found out about this story, and they started interviewing me on this very topic, and it’s even veiled there, we ’ll talk about you, and it definitely comes up on this topic, but the truth is father someone like that beat you when you were a child. no, stupid, because once, that 's all, that's more, once, yes, well, okay, straight, it probably saved me, but i told you, remember, when you got up in the morning, came, he said, dad, what are you saying, i have a challenge, something like that, yes, he says, not you, me i say, i, i say, i read taras bulba, i read, do you remember the phrase there, i gave birth to you, i will kill you, i will kill you again with pills like this, i stopped, it was just such happiness, i tried it, that’s enough, and that’s when i heard the wording performed by journalists, but it’s true that your father beat you, i say, it’s true, but
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what you see now is exceptional the result of domestic violence, my father beat me, and did it often, and moreover, we now see each other much less often than i would like, but every time we meet, my father asks me to beat me, because i am a person... public, then dad does it either in the stomach or with a telephone book on the head, but after that i become somehow younger, immediately, somehow cleaned up, and you know why this is a journalist too, if he’s stupid, he believes, writes and it worked, when i was 17 years old, first flight, i was an apprentice motor mechanic, 4: in eight there are no days off, and we came to petropavlov and kamchatsk and my boyfriend comes up to me, also a motor mechanic, a colleague, already a second-class motor mechanic, san says it’s my birthday, come, we stayed for three days, and i’m happy, i’m all like a shirt - he stroked me, i had such a checkered sweater, well, the first time the sailors accepted me as a boy there, into their clan, so the sailors came to the restaurant and they got me drunk, well
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, the first time, they got me so drunk that they dragged me to the ships, literally, just like they were dragging me along the ladder they threw me off, it’s a mystery, the ladder is narrow, lift it, lift it, then i heard something like that, bang, something hit me on the head, i was either being a hooligan, something was all over, i was laughing a lot, shouting there, and so bang, i still wake up in the morning, i get a black eye, and bang and i pass out, right? black eye, they turned me off, they threw me into the cabin, i have a black eye, i wake up in the morning, the boatswain is standing, i grew up with such sledgehammers, a healthy handsome man, my man leaned on his elbows like that, he was looking at me, what did my son look at, he was cool, i looked, he has such an eye cunning, i say, dad, it’s not you, he says, i’m you, with with such pleasure, i say, well, what is it, i drank for the first time, i’m 17 years old, that’s it, he says, he looked, looked at me, got hooked, he says, remember, son, three things, marry me, how... to drink with whom and
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how long, you don’t remember, you’ll die, you want it, i say, i don’t want it, it’s a deal, a deal, it was 61 years ago, golden words, like that, i still know with whom, when, how much, i won’t be like that , i’ve been drinking for a long time, after the men , there’s so much battery, no matter where i go , there’s already a vodjar, here, you’re ours, fellow countryman, you, siberian, you, let’s have a drink with you, before the fights i even got there, i say, i don’t drink and i don’t want, i don’t want, i don’t want everything, how disdainful you are, under yes oh people’s love, we express it as let’s go have a drink, but the whole country loves you, and how you you’re struggling with this, you’re trying to avoid it, calm down, now it’s calm, i know how one incident went , it was amazing, i’m sitting in some restaurant somewhere, i see two guys coming up, wonderful guys, such handsome men, listen , mikhai yes mikhai, i’m with the vodyarov, we can have this , let’s have a drink with you, i say, guys, i... i don’t drink, like you don’t drink, how can it be that i don’t
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maybe i’m saying, well, really, i don’t drink, i’m saying, no, i’m saying, i’m an alcoholic, i said , i’m an alcoholic, i’m saying, why can’t you see, i’m saying, i’m an alcoholic, i’m just crazy , i swear, i don’t know what ampals are, i’ve never even seen them, i know that many of my colleagues were sewn in, i won’t give the last name, and i say, i got sewn in, i say, well bro, then i’m sorry, but we’ll sit with you , sit down, sit, talk, they drink, a lot, they turned out to be cool guys, well, it’s just so interesting to talk, that’s it, and i’m sitting, i think, listen, guys, i’m saying this, it happened a long time ago, i’ve been in trouble for a long time, give me 100 grams of cash, everything says no, bro , you can’t, that’s bro, you can’t , he saved me three times, i swear, something, bro,
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you can't, that's all, nothing, it's still saving me, bro, i need a hug, i love you , you're great, i love you too, thank you guys, come on, call your parents, talk to your loved ones, hug , podcast 20 years later, my guest today was my father, people’s artist of the ussr, alexander mikhailov, i, konstantin mikhailov, thank you, greetings, this is a podcast chronicling the end of times, my name is evgeniy dodalev and today i will tell you about one of the most demonized figures of soviet bohemia. we are talking about boris buryats. he said that he is the son of a gypsy defense, but in general
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... such a pantar has been hung on him by a lot of different crime stories, there are publications, there are television series, there are film incarnations, from which it follows that he is a villain, the lover of galina leonidovna brezhneva , soviet princess, daughter of general secretary leonid ilevich obrezhnev, and allegedly boris, was guilty of the death.... of many actresses who collected diamonds, was a gunner and organizer of crimes, i very much doubt this, because at one time i i had the opportunity to get acquainted with the materials of the criminal case, at the suggestion of telman kharenov chedlyan, with whom we worked on books and publications in the so-called uzbek case, he also organized a meeting with
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boris for me, although according to the myth he by that time was already dead, and his pursuers were from the gypsy community. the soviet union was cursed and there were rumors that all the troubles that happened with yuri mikhailovich churbanov, the husband of galina leonidovna brezhneva, and with many other characters, it was all a consequence of this gypsy curse, and the first time i saw boris was back in my student days, it was in the oragve restaurant, he was a bohemian star, as it turned out later, but i saw him in the company of some athletes, it was the soviet union team, even now i can’t remember what sport, we had a student company there, and boris showed attention to one of the girls
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who was in our company, there was some kind of conflict situation, we were forced to leave, and boris then said that we again... see you, he told me, i didn’t know who he was, after the fact the waiter was an acquaintance, he said that this was a very powerful man, the lover of brezhneva, uh, who got him a job at the bolshoi theater, and such a significant figure in crime world, which can find there and somehow deal with it, i don’t believe it, i don’t believe in any of this, no, they were of course acquainted with galina or leonidovna, i don’t know how close they were, but he was such an interesting man, completely different in his television film incarnations, he impressed mainly what is called presentation, that is, he dressed as they did not dress in the soviet union, that is
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, some kind of floor-length fur coats, uh, shirts with these collars, a hairy chest, with a huge cross decorated with diamonds, well, that is, he attracted attention, and we finally saw him, many years later, in the building of the general prosecutor's office of the soviet union. his status, at the moment when we saw each other for the second and last time, was a prisoner. to be honest, i didn’t even recognize him, that is, telmanich warned me that there would be a meeting with boris buryat, because i was then working on a series of publications under the general title. about the brezhnev dynasty and simply asked to arrange this meeting with me, his term was already running out, but the fact is that he was in a camp, there was some kind of he picked up a very exotic disease, some kind, something related to
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mites that live in eyelashes, he lost all his eyelashes, that is, his eyes look very strange, without... eyelashes at all, especially considering that he has eyebrows remained, here are the old ones, that is, it was very strange to have such an appearance, and of course he evoked sympathy, he was completely depressed, there were a lot of things against him, i say that all sorts of crimes were hanged, that he participated in the theft of diamonds and uzoya fedorova, and i remember the first issue, newsletter top secret, which was organized by yuliyan semyonovich semyon. it was dedicated, the cover was dedicated specifically to zoya fedorova, because it was a noisy case, and we , i mean when i say, we are a top secret team, because i was the first full-time employee of this publication, worked on this case , there was not a word in official documents about boris buryat, while both
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rumor and a lot of newspaper and magazine publications attributed his participation, either as a gunner, or... as the organizer of this murder is the theft of jewelry from zoya fedorova. in the case materials, which, in any case, were provided to me for review by telman at a glance, the only thing that boris was charged with was article 154 of the criminal code of the russian federation, this was simply stupid speculation. it was large-scale there, in my opinion, and one of these episodes was about 11 yugoslav sheepskin coats , they were sold, well, in principle, it was a term, but he was sentenced, he received 7 years, the term he received was precisely for profiteering. there were no murders or any conspiracies,
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for some reason it was believed that he should have been excused, just like galina leonidovna, brezhneva, who was either his patron or girlfriend, or i don’t know, he didn’t hold the candle as a mistress, for some reason he had to be excused, as many said, and yuri mikhailovich churbanov, galina’s husband, naturally asked about boris, he left this topic very irritably, that is, it is clear that he knew about his wife’s hobbies, but this was not, firstly, galina leonidovna’s only thing, and secondly, it was not a fact, that she had some kind of really romantic, when i say romantic, i mean bed character, maybe she just liked the company of interesting, absolutely interesting companions, with a sense of humor, with
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some common interests, i lived with yuri mikhailovich churbanov in the same house, before he actually became that same churbanov’s husband brezhny, and i was actually a schoolboy, i lived in house number 23 on the second novostankinskaya street, this is this house, a five-story building that is called khrushchobami, this is the second entrance where i lived , this is the entrance where yuri mikhailovich lived churbanov, why did i actually remember my neighbor, well, firstly, he lived in the entrance where my comrade, dima likhanov, lived , who later became a writer, and at that moment he was also a schoolboy with the son of albert likhanov and a writer and a friend of my father, who was also a soviet writer, but at this moment we are talking about,
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he was simply a correspondent for the newspaper komsomolskaya pravda, and it was called a komsomol village, because in these, in this house in the neighboring houses, people lived which were somehow related to komsomol, my dad worked in komsomolskaya pravda, which was the organ of the komsomol central committee, and yuri mikhailovich churbanov, he worked in the komsomol central committee. the head of some department there, the old women who sat there on these benches in this courtyard, they of course knew a lot about churbano, in particular they knew that he was not entitled to the status of the black volga, which took him every morning to work , no one knew that he was already part of the family there, the general secretary, he worked in the komsomol then... as a liver worker, they said that it was it means that in order to make a career, it was necessary to drink very seriously, so yuri mikhailovich, this is
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not in any negative way, i myself, when i became a soviet journalist, in the komsovol publication i went through this, that is, i absolutely do not condemn the person who abused alcohol in the soviet union, because it was one of the main entertainments, let’s say, yuri mikhailovich generally loved life, he was in this sense such a handsome man and a seabort, and he probably also worked loved it since he made this career, because he made a career even before he met galina leonina brezhneva, by the way, again, when i was working on a book about the uzbek case, investigators from the ussr prosecutor general's office shared photographs with me, and i... used several of them in my book, and oh, churbanov about the brezhny dynasty, i put this one on the cover, because here he is, i
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just like him, i want to go to him, to see this carpet in uzbekistan, where there is fruit, everything is wonderful . so here we go, this is a podcast, chronicle of the end of times. today we are talking about people who were close to galina leonidovna brezhneva. now, of course, when i remember the circumstances of this case, this case and those episodes that were imputed to yuri churbanov, i understand that this is not the scale that can impress the current reader, and uh, i often hear that this case was inflated, they persecuted churbanov not as a corrupt official, but as a son-in-law... general secretary brezhnev, it really was the end
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of times, because after brezhnev’s death in in the eighty-second year the country fell apart, before that there was, of course, some kind of inertia that was holding the country, but the fact is that leonid brezhnev, despite the mass, probably, of some of his merits, was a man who was not capable was to correct the state discourse, the discourse remained stalinist in the sixties and seventies, and the country lived according to completely different laws, there were completely different realities and different concepts, that is , the concepts were new, the elite was absolutely bourgeois, the party elite under brezhnev, and the discourse, i repeat, was still the same about the world proletariat, in general , nothing, nothing has changed, this is where the country itself was undermined, it is customary to say that the country was destroyed by the program and rock musicians
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, by no means, i will not tire of repeating this, the country... was destroyed by the incompetent party elite, which did not adapt to the change of eras, so the end of times actually came. chump, i remember a lot of stories that now seem funny, bribes in the form of three melons, or a box of cognac, and a gold-embroidered skullcap and a gold-embroidered robe, the most impressive thing... there is a roller watch for 10,000 dollars. 10,000 dollars, although back then it was a lot of money, it’s like now, i don’t know what 100,000 euros are like now, but that’s not what the song is about, he was one of the largest heads of the security department there, the first deputy minister of the interior, and it’s clear that
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according to the current scale there, this is not very, not very serious money, but here the point is not that, but here the point is how, if a person considered it in principle possible for himself to take some kind of offering and not fulfill this or that, an official action or there, on the contrary, to do something, being stimulated by this offering , there by the same golden tambourine, this is actually the definition of corruption, the country was destroyed by the conflict between brezhnev’s favorites, between the heads of law enforcement agencies, yuri andropov headed the state security committee and leonid brezhnev’s longtime front-line comrade nikolai shelokov headed the ministry of internal affairs. these two, sholokov and andropov, they fought among themselves, in this in this war they basically lived
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the country as a whole, because while they were there influence was measured. conspired against each other, the country was sliding into the abyss, in fact, yuri andropov, this was the man, why, according to the order , boris buryat was pulled out in the first place, speculators, not the largest, by soviet standards, but only because he was a person who was well acquainted with daughter of the general secretary, they made him into such a villain, and there were people in the misery of andropovo , that is, security officers who were engaged in, firstly, they came up with all kinds of jokes, and secondly, they threw rumors into society, so
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rumors about the power of this very boris were spread, as they say, by people in order, in fact, to discredit brezhnev, first of all, including yuri churbanov, although yuri mikhailovich himself told me that in in november 1982, andropov invited him and said that as long as i, that is, he, andropov, was alive, nothing would happen to him and churbanov. churbanov held the post of first deputy minister of internal affairs, that is, he actually oversaw the soviet police, he was very, very an influential person, but the fact is that andropov , i don’t know what he was guided by, because i repeat that he was at enmity with shchelokov and naturally had some
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complaints and his people developed churbanova , bypassing party instructions, according to closed party instructions , it was forbidden to open so-called operational investigative activities against members of their families, that is, this had a direct bearing on churbanov, since he was not just a member of the bureau, but the general secretary of the cpsu, that is, a violation of this closed instructions, they were in development, all the people who were related to galina brezhneva, and the claims that were made there to the same buryat, well, now it seems to me so funny, for example, galina leonidovna found out that this or that store jewelry in moscow,
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a batch of jewelry will be delivered. she informed her friend about this, or i don’t know, or his accomplice, whatever you want to call him, boris, and he drove in the morning to the opening of this store and bought it officially, that is, simply through the cash register, he bought it at the official price of these stones, this is now very, perhaps not very clear, to those viewers who did not live in the soviet union and do not understand that the gap existed not only in discourse, but in prices, that is, there were some state, so-called official prices, but there was a shortage, that is, it was impossible to go to a jewelry store and buy a ring there with two or three carats, because there weren’t any. it was a shortage, just as it was impossible to go to the fish department of a grocery store and buy caviar, although caviar was produced - it they traded, in general, at the very least, everyone tasted it, but it was impossible
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to buy it, because everything was sold on the black market, not at the prices at which it could officially be bought in a store, it’s quite like that - the system was confused in this sense, in short, these diamonds that were with or... jewelry were bought at the official price in the store, again, that it was just a person who came, took it from the counter, went to the cash register there , that is, this was not, was not done somehow it's obvious there, you just had to know which one exactly the store, what day to come, this is such insider information, this is what it is called now, then these stones were sold and these jewelry at a different price, two or three ends were made there, and people called it... actually the speculation of these there are no episodes in the case, because they were originally present in the criminal case, then they were removed, because galina leonidovna, after all, was taken out of this
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blow, so i still, i believe, by the way, churbanov that andropov promised him not pursue why, because simply if we look at how events developed, churbanov retained his position, first deputy minister of internal affairs, even after the death of his father-in-law, the fact is that andropov was in power for a very short time, and with the death of andropov, when this so-called race on the heads began, under chernenko they already began to put very hard pressure on churbanov , and it was andrupov’s department that did this, that is , the security officers, in fact we, that is, i mean journalists, were involved in the information war, before that it was impossible to imagine an information war in the soviet press, but starting somewhere in 1985, that is, after mikhail sergegevich gorbachev came to power, when
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glasnost was announced, including, among other things, this very glasnost, it also acquired the format of an information war, i was introduced to the person who headed the investigation of this uzbek... case, which almost turned into a kremlin case with telman glyan and nikolai yanenovich ivanov, to his deputy , dima likhanov, the same dima likhanov, who lived in the same building as yuri mikhailovich churbanov, this has nothing to do with it, it just happened that likhanov was offered to do this business, but he was very, well, first of all, his dad, albert likhanov, he headed the children's fund. secondly, dima worked in the ogonyok magazine for vitaly korotich, and in short , he had something to lose, and he was thinking about me, even though he was younger, but thinking about it, i was such a fool, that is, he told me that
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i could fit into such a matter, and i am completely unaware of the whole effort about how all this could end, he eagerly wrote it down, said, yes, super, great, very interesting, there is galina brezhneva, yuri cherbanov, yes, yes, yes, me. i will, i will do this, well, i would like, so to speak, to think that i was naive, although , to call a spade a spade, i was just stupid, because in a completely different way, it could have unfolded and this story could end completely differently, both for the people from the prosecutor’s office who were involved in this, and for those journalists whom they, let’s say, used, although i want to console myself that the use was mutual, that we used the security forces, and they used us in order to publicize this or that information, because any publication
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in the press immediately became a reason for dismissals, for some then actions, i believed that if this was written, this was replicated, then this is simply a guide to action, the circulations were, by the way , colossal, the circulations of newspapers were colossal, there were only 5-6 of them, i don’t know, it’s true komsomol truth, news, there labor, well, actually, that’s all, like that. there were also no major magazine publications, so firstly, i repeat, there were millions of copies in circulation, and secondly, there was a certain trust among readers in the printed word, so it was believed that if something is written, then it is so , i remember there were publications, some notes about a hundred lines long, after which people there lost their posts, including ministerial ones. and about
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churbanov and about brezhnev, no one actually wrote before me, they wrote in the west, of course, this many of our compatriots, such as roy medvedev, who contacted me after these publications, some people who were called dissidents, they published publications , including in the russian-language press in the west, but in soviet publications, in soviet periodicals, of course, no one mentioned these names at all, and when i published a whole page in moskovsky komsomolets about galina leonidovna brezhneva called kremlengate, and it simply quoted the testimony of galina leonidovna herself, and the testimony of assistants, churbanov, testimony there are some secretaries and others, then in general, well, there is... such a cliche, the journalistic
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effect of a bomb exploding, it was something like that, that is, it thundered so much, not to mention the fact that it was the first publication in the soviet periodicals, where an entire newspaper page in a2 format was devoted to journalistic copyright material; before that, entire pages were allocated exclusively to materials of one or another congress of the communist party of the soviet union. and the next important point. that, because i don’t just like that, they leaked it, relatively speaking, it’s called leaking, it’s just that investigators leaked these testimonies to me there, ah, for a reason, because after they were published in a million copies by the vmc, it was no longer possible to remove these testimonies from cases, ignore them, because before this, in general , there could simply have been one or another call to say that these testimonies are not necessary. we just cut them out, you know, like when editing
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a film, we just cut out this episode, it doesn’t fit into the concept, therefore, investigators of course, they wanted certain aspects to be fully integrated into the concept , so having already published these materials, they were like this was the term that was used for artists, lithuanian, that is, an artist who performed in the soviet union. it is any text, be it a song, a poem, it doesn’t matter, it was censored, this work, this text, it should be filled in, that is, there should be a corresponding stamp there, this is how these testimonies would be read, naturally, people from other law enforcement agencies, they were interested in where the journalists actually got these materials, i said, yes, i
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found it. so here we go, this is a podcast chronicling the end times. today we are talking about people who were close to galina leonidov nebrezhneva, these publications, when i say that they had a resonance, i am not exaggerating at all, because there, right after , uh, the first report from the kremlengate series, people from western publishing houses, as a result, published there. books including galina brezhneva - this is a book that was - published already in our time, that is, in soviet times, but books were published in the west , too, and it turned out that in the soviet union, a book called the pyramid was published, the authors of which were me and telman glyand, an investigator, and this is a book
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that talked about corruption in the soviet union, it was published by a soviet publishing house and the only name that was removed... from this book by the publishers was the name of boris buryats, why? he was not an influential player, but he was a gypsy, as it turned out, no one wanted to deal with gypsies, not because that there could be some kind of, i don’t know, custom story, but because simply in all seriousness, as the publishers explained to me, they were afraid of a curse, because it was believed that after boris, to get clean, as they call it, accepted, that is, he was arrested and convicted, and the gypsy community cursed those people who, in their opinion , were involved in this, theoretical troubles began , well, up to criminal prosecution, i meant galina brezhneva, yuri
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mikhailovich, i don’t know, but i haven’t looked into this issue, but they told me that what the hell this is a gypsy curse for us, it’s better to have a showdown with the kgb. there with bandits, but not with a curse, as for yuri mikhailovich churbanov, he knew that his wife was friends with the son of the gypsy boron with the soloist of the bolshoi theater, with boris, but he made it clear to me that well , well, like whoever she was friends with, maris slepa was her friend, and she was friends with sladimir semyonovich vysotsky. and i asked directly what you yuri mikhailovich think, that there was nothing there that could awaken you mavro, atelo, that is, there was nothing to be jealous of, to which he was annoyed and said that ugali said he only had affairs with your brothers, and he meant that she had
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a serious relationship there with a couple of journalists from the ap, and she just hung out with everyone else, because she, well, generally liked bohemians. his first husband was milaev, a church member, his second husband was igor kio , a representative of the most famous church dynasty, let me remind you that she fell in love with a young and promising artist, they just got married officially, and uh, when they went for a honeymoon in sochi, there came, as i call it, specially trained people who simply took away my passport. the young people were then given new passports, which no longer had this stamp, it is clear that leonid ilyevich brezhnev, as the head of state, he wanted to somehow minimize the damage, relatively speaking, reputational damage, but the methods by which this was done, they
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showed in fact, the weakness of the administrative-command system, well , and by the way, his weakness was shown, including as a parent, as a father, who simply with her own daughter, she can’t... improve relations, by the way, that’s why, when galina leonidovna met yuri urbanov, who already had the rank of mayor at that time, that is, a handsome, stately officer, appeared in the family, he later, of course, circus, leonid ilevich brezhnev, was glad that , as he believed, gala came to her senses, but galya did not come to her senses for long, love passed for... tomatoes, so she again rushed into various adventures, including from borisam. galina leonidovna divorced churbanov while he was in conclusion, such an option is provided by law, in my opinion to this day, that
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