tv PODKAST 1TV November 6, 2023 1:15am-2:00am MSK
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with you today is ekaterina varkan, the author of books on this topic, and i, the director of the all-russian museum of alexander sergeevitch pushkin, sergei nekrasov. we have great joy, unlost rings, two unlost rings , which are again stored in the collections of your museum, and one of them, of absolutely extraordinary beauty with an emerald, this ring, therefore, is imprinted. in the portrait of tropinin from the year twenty-seven, there are two rings on his right hand, on the thumb of his right hand, this is exactly the ring with the emerald that we just saw, the second ring, as contemporaries, so to speak, contemporaries recognized in it the vorontsov ring, lost, but then we will talk about it separately, but the ring with an emerald, if i may say two more words, a ring with an emerald, it...
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really was one of pushkin’s favorite objects and it went to vladimir ivanovich dahl, this ring , he said, was pushkin’s, he already wrote about this at the end of 1837, that when he looked at it, sparks ran from his heels to his head, and i want, dahl wrote, to get down to something decent that is, this pushkin ring, it did good, encouraged people to do good deeds, which dahl wrote very well about, well, in general, it is believed that the emerald, which determines the calendar of stones, should belong to people who were born in may, so and pushkin was born on may 26, and we know that he ended up in exile in mikhailovsky
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, which means that he wrote to his brother lev all the time , asking him to send this particular ring, still nothing, which means his brother didn’t send it, that is, we understand that this ring , we don’t know where pushkin got it from, maybe he bought it, ordered it, someone gave it to him, but he had this ring with an emerald until the twentieth year, and because in the twentieth year he left for the southern regions, before the twentieth year it already existed, they say that this is a ring with a chip, but it’s clear that, so to speak, no one will either give or buy, so to speak, these are, well, fortunately acquired in the process of life and wearing, such things happen, and i think all the time, as a matter of fact, where could this chip come from, i think, maybe pushkin, aka we had a temperamental man, he was banging on the door frame in a bad mood, maybe he was giving fatherly punishment to his servant, i don’t know, but i like the hooligan version, on the right hand on... on the thumb, yes, this is a ring
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it was, well, not only did they open champagne with sabers, they opened it with rings, and perhaps this chip just happened from opening champagne, which pushkin revered and loved, one thing is incontestable that pushkin really really loved this ring, one of his favorites, and so did i it means that twice i managed to be in this precious witch in his museum and see, that means this ring, yes, but it was absolutely necessary. at the time when you were writing a book about these rings, you had to see your eyes, this is of course an impression , because you can’t touch it, but when you can look close, it’s completely different, and i measured it with a ruler, which means the size of this ring diameter, it turned out to be 19.5, i went to a jewelry store just around the corner, they gave me such a handful as grape, where these rings hang in different sizes and i chose 19.5 , i decided what size the ring was, so i
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just saw, this ring is 19.5, here it is, here is the same ring as on my finger, then we understand that the size of pushkin’s hand was the same as mine, that is, it is a very small hand, i have a small hand, but for a man it is quite small, now we can tell, well, the second ring, which means there are still some of us left, pushkin's, also in sergei mikhailovich's collections, it's true called a ring. volkonskaya, although it originally belonged to alexandrugevich, and it is unknown where it came from, when it appeared, most likely during a trip through the crimea and the caucasus, when he was sent on a southern business trip from st. petersburg in the twentieth year, glory, yes, here it is , he met his friends, the raevskikhs continued the trip with them, the excursion, in principle , then there were also black diggers and divers for amphibians. because this stone, that is, i
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also looked at it quite closely, it... is very similar to an antique one, there are three cupids there, who sit down in the boat, it is possible that this is, uh, the result of some kind of search, the stone seemed beautiful, one of the jewelers, so to speak, cut it, well, so to speak, in a new way, here, although it really is very similar to old, and carnelian, it is a very soft stone, so everyone loved to use it in the jewelry industry, so to speak, let’s call it, that’s true, but when it appeared, somewhere, maybe at some sort, i bought it at a dealership from a tatar or from a greek, he’s in the crimea, when i traveled there, well, many, pushkinists they are fighting, we know, so to speak, they are trying to guess, so to speak, the answer to marya nikolaevna’s relationship with pushkin, whether they had love, they didn’t, well, in fact, raevskaya herself, so to speak, at that time wrote in her memoirs that
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he always loved only his muse and no one else, gave a clear answer, the appearance of this ring, it is not at all romantic, at maria nikolaevna’s, it means they spent it in different ways, so to speak, not, not in drunkenness at cards, but sometimes they played different games, so to speak, lotteries and so on, and pushkin gave this ring to the lottery, and maria nikolaevna won it, this is not a romantic story at all, well, anyone, so to speak, who was there could win, but at the same time, she soon married prince volkonsky, sergei grivich and, who participated in the speech at the senate. year, then boldly one of the first went to siberia for him, with this ring, this ring passed through siberia, returned from there, inherited it to his son, mikhailugevich, then to his grandson, the grandson passed it on to the pushkin house, even after telling all this
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story, outlining everything and adding that he received this ring as a gift when he graduated from high school, that is, this detail was still there. well, in general, carnelian considers it as if from the russian word rejoicing from the heart and a stone of love, and many lovers preferred this stone, well, as such a significant gift, so to speak, and in fact , we have a third ring, it may be the first in pushkin’s life, the second here i i don’t know the so-called vrontsova ring, again it ’s called that, it’s also carnelian, that is, from hearts love and according to the general version. it means that elizaveta varantsova, the wife of the governor of novorossiysk, little russia, gave the ring to pushkin, yes, and supposedly they had some kind of relationship of their own, so as a sign, so to speak, of some kind of true
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sympathy, she gave this ring, and pushkin, uh, also called it a talisman, yeah. he even highlighted poems, poems, he made a drawing of this ring, which is also so to speak, it is rare to have such a drawing, a vorontsov ring, on a finger, on the index finger, just like that, here we have a drawing, on the index finger, in in general, two poems talisman, one was written immediately as soon as he received it as a gift, and the other was already memories , after some time, in general, pushkin wrote in his love face, wrote to elizaveteri vorontsova more than all 14 poems, so of course, here are romantic there was undoubtedly a relationship, pay attention, for the sake of memory, here is a print from a plaster copy and the very original
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ring that we are now talking about, here is the date 1899, and shlyapkint is one of the employees, one of the teachers. imperial alexander lyceum, which told us especially here about this. we have several prints of this ring, but unfortunately there is no ring, but we have sergei mikhailovich’s image in the portraits of this ring, portraits of people who later owned it, and we can show them, this is zhukovsky, two portraits of zhikovsky with this ring , and one more person, but we’ll talk about him later, later, here... this is a ring, very special, a famous portrait of a famous artist, well, unfortunately, we don’t have the original of this ring, as you know, after the death of pushkin, it belonged to vasily andreevich zhukovsky, he had it, then it already belonged to others,
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people, finally it ended up in a museum, the first pushkin museum of russia, a museum at the imperial alexander lyceum and - you can read that in 1917 , during the revolutionary events, it disappeared, since there really was a corresponding incident, but that’s not entirely true. well, because it was stolen, it was such an emergency much earlier, at the end of the 19th century, and because they didn’t want to know about it to say arrange means to draw attention to it, then they made a copy of this ring and put it in the display case, this particular copy was stolen, but fortunately , those prints were made from the real ring, which... we see, this is ivangeevich, yes, whom we should have shown much later, but we are showing now
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, he has, also below, if we look, so to speak, on his hand, on his right hand, there is also this ring, judging by everyone, we assume that this is the ring and there is, there is also, that means, an image of zhukovsky, one with a ring, and there is a posthumous image of pushkin, also presumably with this ring, this is a portrait of pushkin. which was created by the artist mazam in 1839, that is, 2 years after the death of alexander sergegevich pushkin, and it was pavilovich nashchekin who posed for the artist mather, but here it is very important to emphasize that he posed in this very pushkin archoluk, with that same ring, which is presented here, i must say that after all. ivan sergeevich surgeniev, when it dawned on him, the rings, he was going to
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to do it with such, well, a passing prize, or something, for great russian writers , that’s why ivan sergeevich surgenev wanted that after his death the ring would pass to leo nikolaevitch tolstoy, and then, as he wrote, when his time came, he would choose who to give it to , the ring was with a note from turgenev presented in moscow in 1880 at an exhibition, that's all of it. who, knowing that tolstoy and turgev had a very good relationship, so to speak, she decided for some reason not to give the ring to tolstoy, but to give it to the museum, well, that’s also good i left it in the museum, but in any case , so to speak, turgenev’s will was violated, this is what happens when... a non-russian person tries to figure it out, as a result , the ring took revenge, it disappeared, because
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it was left without the hand of the next one, called fat, well, a genius or a talented person, in the opinion of lev nikolaevich, you are watching the precious stories podcast and my host, director of the all-russian pushkin museum sergei mikhailovich nekrasov and i, ekaterina varkan, well... after all, pushkin still means with us for now in the crimea with vorontsova and is awaiting his deportation from - the wife of the governor-general and the governor-general and izvertsova herself, they were not in the crimea, they were in odessa, although the post was governor-general of novorossiya, and pushkin was in odessa, they went there - here, by the way, here are two poems, talisman, remember. one begins where the sea forever splashes on the deserted rocks, where the moon lazily shines in
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the late hour of the evening darkness, where muslims spend their days enjoying their sorrows, there the sorceress caressingly handed me a talisman, and laskavich said save my talisman, it has a mysterious power, it was given to you by love, this is this gift that is recorded in poetry, by the way, we see odessa now, and of course, this all happened in odessa, but pushkin’s lines, and , muslims, about gorems, this is, of course, clearly an impression from bakchesarai, undoubtedly, where pushkin just , relatively recently, visited, well, the relationship, to our great regret, did not work out between pushkin and varantsov, and he was expelled from odessa, already in exile mikhailovskoe, and there are different versions. the version that he exceeded his powers pushkin in relation, so to speak, to his wife, which means
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he courted her too much and, so to speak, demonstrated this courtship, another version was that he wrote many indecent epigrams, yes, there was a third version, what kind of opheism, that is, unbelief, here it may be one thing with another with a third, but in fact there is a feeling that, in general , vorontsov did not treat pushkin as bad as we would say today, so to speak, from here you can see how we are used to seeing us somehow handsome, that's how we are. or to think that he was so evil, it means, well, since he’s the boss, that means he’s evil, yes, he sent him away for an epigram, for opheism and because he wanted to beat off his wife, well , for no reason at all, yes, in fact, that’s it, but there is also so interesting, that means, documents, letters from vorontsov to his friend, anton antonovich fonton, and i really want to read these letters, not letters, but
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fragments, unfortunately we have very little time, well, here are some fragments, it seems to me , that this is very interesting, precisely from the point of view of understanding vrantsov’s attitude towards pushkin and in general his kind of inner deep dignity, respect, intelligence in general , vrontsov writes to fonton: the legacy of our good friend continues to cause me a lot of trouble, each of us must pay his tribute to youth, but pushkin is extending his youth too much, and he has talents... of course, he has, besides, we must give justice to pushkin, he speaks the russian language perfectly, our language is positively sounding beautiful, and then it’s great, who knows, maybe we’ll start corresponding soon in russian, but this is about such simply interesting remarks, here is one letter dedicated to a very famous story
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, when pushkin was very irritated by this story, when he was sent on a business trip to count locusts, he became beneath his dignity, although he was an ordinary ordinary official, all officials served and carried out instructions, so to speak, and pushkin was listed as an official, he himself wrote that i never lifted a finger, i did nothing, i perceive this salary as a scholarship for what i cannot do trade in moscow, in st. petersburg, this is known, this means varantsov’s thoughts on this matter in a letter to his friend, he cannot become an official, but they made all sorts of indulgences for him and did not bother him with work, but the prince, however, wanted something to occupy pushkin, but because complete idleness is also not good, well, he wanted to occupy him for business trips on various assignments within the governorship, for a test pushkin was sent to saroncha, and what came of it, we read: a colonel came with a report, a colonel, quote came to me with a report
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extremely indignant, he showed me pushkin’s report about his business trip, my dear... you’ll never guess what was there, poetry, rapport in verse. pushkin wrote: the soroncha flew, flew and sat down, sat, sat, ate everything and flew away again. the colonel thundered and began to talk to me about discipline and violation of laws. bring me the law that prohibits submitting reports in verse, i besieged him. it seems there is no such thing. prince suvorov sent not only the governor, but also the empress herself a report in verse. thank god, thank you. tour-tuk, taken and i’m there. when the surprised colonel came out, i began to think what to do with pushkin. and so i decided the next morning to call pushkin, scold him, or rather, shame him and put him under arrest, but nothing came of it. in the evening i started reading other reports on soranche. this time it’s serious, detailed and
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very long, there are plans, tables and calculations, i got through about 30 pages and thought, what’s the conclusion? sat, ate everything and flew away again, i couldn’t draw any other conclusion, i read the second note, again too, ate everything and flew away again, i felt dizzy and angry my passion for pushkin subsided, at least he spared my time, i didn’t call pushkin, but i got raevsky to reprimand him to soap his head, from everything i said, it’s clear that pushkin’s place is not in odessa, and that every other city, excluding, of course, kishelevo will be more suitable for him. by the way, we can probably add to this that there is also evidence of how pushkin met with the peasants in the fields affected by the soroncha, and having gathered this very gathering of the peasants, he turned to them with the question: what do you think? what
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is sorancia? it was necessary to somehow continue to fight this circumstance, there was complete silence, finally, one of the peasants timidly proclaimed that saroncha is god’s punishment, but here , pushkin said, how can we fight god’s punishment, go home, and he dismissed them , there is also such evidence, but in general the relationship between pushka and vorontsov, for a long time, especially during the soviet period, was presented extremely straightforwardly and not entirely true, they were much more complex. and vorontsov at first treated pushkin very well, although there were reasons for dissatisfaction, we will undoubtedly remember that after all, mikhail semyonovich. was one of the brightest and bravest generals of the russian army during the patriotic war of 1812, he was undoubtedly a man of honor
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, and a heightened sense of honor, therefore, just like pushkin, so of course, it was sometimes not easy for them together, so varantsov undoubtedly sighed with relief when pushkin was sent further to mikhailovsko. under the supervision of local authorities, the reason for which was the well-known letter, they have just reminded us of this, a letter related to the dissemination of these very ideas of atheism, of course, i still prefer the version , that means, of vorontsov’s good attitude towards pushkin, this is the letter that, in general, it seems to me, we presented to the general public for the first time today, yes, this is interesting, of course, yes , for the first time here is somehow closer to my heart, and so pushkin, strictly speaking, according to leprandi’s remark , which means, this is what he wrote, the count did, after this letter, the count made
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contact with petersburg in the lightest terms, and to pushkin designated stay in the estate of the sskolov province, pushkin in mikhailovskoye, well, i think that we can finish this, probably today, yes, we will not finish, we will stop today, in our story, because. the next stage may be very interesting, stories related to alexander sergeevich pushkin, with objects, but i think that in our story about precious stories, we will not limit ourselves only to pushkin, but we will also remember some of his predecessors and contemporaries, precious evidence exists in the form of those objects, facts, which are kept in our museum and not only in our museum, and i believe that many stories can evoke undoubtedly, no, there are things that carry material value, and there are
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things that are priceless, yes, which mean a lot more to a person , for a person , for a family, for society, for history, they change stories, this was a podcast of precious history, director of the all-russian pushkin museum sergei mikhailovich nekrasov, ekaterina varkan, writer. author of the most interesting books about jewelry - belonging to famous our uh cultural figure. hello everyone, this is nely komshity, tatyana gevarkyan is with you. autumn is that time, everyone returns from vacation to the office from vacation to school, so it’s time to talk about office measles about the trend for school uniforms, my
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guest today is costume designer anna khrustaleva and actress milana bru, hello, hello, hello , you now have a very relevant topic related to school uniforms, this is the premiere of your film, i’m taking a step, i immediately ask anna how... the work on the creation is proceeding images in movies? well, first of all, this is, of course, mental, intuitive work in some kind of ideal world , well, in an ideal world, i don’t mean in a material one, that is, you need to find a commonality between your idea of the hero, the hero, as the actor represents him, as the screenwriter represents him and the director, and as soon as it’s all tied into one, the image is... everyone is happy, then the tenth thing is to find your own clothes, it happens, don’t let’s just say it right from the very beginning, then the costume designer receives an offer
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to work on a film that takes place in a school, that is, accordingly, it’s basically a school uniform, yeah, and preppe style, yeah, and something connected with the school, yes with the uniform, with the uniform, yes, with the school uniform, and , as far as i understand, school uniforms are now available in some places and not in others. somewhere she is free, and this is such a rather, in general, complex style, you know , first of all, naturally, a conversation with the director, after i read the script, how she sees it, in this case she is the director olga akatieva, and accordingly, i will talk about her in the feminine gender, and olga told me that she wants the main characters to be seen without a uniform, because they must show their individuality, but there will be, let’s say, representatives of the heroine milana works as a teacher at the lyceum , they should be in such an ideal, pressed, elite school uniform, i started studying
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subculture. modern, because teenagers without subcultures, of course, cannot exist, and one of the heroines is polina, her name is played by vasilisa, an actress, she is just the representative is so bright, she’s ready, well, everything is mixed there, goths, emmas, in general, she is different from the others, black color, makeup, blue streak in her hair and so on, and i also have to clarify that the action does not take place in a moscow school , but provincial, so it was very important not to make the kids too fashionable, too trendy, because a provincial school should not look with the same touch as a moscow lyceum, just like my kids are already lyceum students, they are, of course, dressed to the nines, they have emblems, they have very beautiful jackets, well that is, a strict school uniform, strict hairstyles, everything should be perfect, that is, such an ivy league , and probably, they would probably be inspired by this, yes, of course, including, of course, the propstyle
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is generally very close to me as an artist and a person , this is very interesting to me, i like all this aesthetics of closed schools, i like it when people are dressed neatly and neatly, but it seems to me that everyone is also inspired by harry potter, naturally, he - this release of these films also influenced the new popularity of the record style, although probably with in the forties, it never left the radar, except perhaps in the nineties, when crunch was still at its peak. and so this one, well, even in grunge there were elements of pre-made ethical shirts and some kind of svetara, there was still something, even in ties, even in grunge there were elements of the prepi style, yeah, it’s just more informal, more extended , that is, they played, maybe propi style, but in their own krange manner, and milana, you play a lyceum teacher, yes, but initially the story is that my heroine,
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katerina, she... not entirely honestly deserves a position as a teacher in one of the main schools in moscow, she goes there and of course this is also from a pskov girl who studied at this institute, she becomes such a serious young lady, a careerist, and she also has very beautiful , formal suits, i also really like my image in this film , because they chose wonderful suits for me, they are all strict... but very bright, ah, one of my suits is blue, so bright blue, then burgundy, they look like identical, but absolutely different there, but it went well with these guys who are lyceum students, and of course, the final stage is a competition, there turns out to be a literary competition, where these guys are gathered, and my class is moscow and the lyceum, they are all strict , they are all in beautiful suits, they have red ties, this for me
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is just my weakness, i adore all these uniforms, and there is a ninth b, yes, they also have white shirts there, but there b, who is from another city , directly, there they also have white shirts, ties, well in some places they are not very neat, well, their ties are tied, in others they have jeans, and there , in my opinion, green ones, their own clothes, that is, their own, their own clothes, but as if with white ones, even some of them didn’t have in my opinion, that is, you had to use both here and there. style, but at the same time show social disunity, yes, yes, and just the same, the main character , seryozha novosad, who played sasha, he also was not in a suit, as i was there, in full dress, but he was more in such a style, he wore such a stretched sweater because he had to to show that a person is completely unprepared for the competition, he was detained there because in general, the plot is very twisted, that is
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, when... we were filming this movie, there was a feeling that we were filming a series in terms of the number of locations, the number of situations, the number of flashbacks, because there are often references to the past, in my opinion we had three , at least three times in the past, in which we also prepared, but this is the recent past, yes, that is, there was no need to change the style very much, well you know, since our main character is an orphan and we are a little bit like that they made childhood so nostalgic... you can, if you look at it this way strictly, maybe it seems more distant than it actually is in terms of the plot, the plot, it’s probably correct to say that, but it was necessary to show that the social class of the main character is also not very high, that this is not some prestigious moscow courtyard, that’s why the time span is really small, but there is a difference in style, and what do you remember in terms of style from the films?
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which in the style of preppy harry potter we already mentioned, there was also gossip girl, yes, i can’t help but mention wednesday, it seems to me that this is such an incomparable work of costume designers, in general this is this aesthetics. mixed with preppy, the otic preppy is very close to me, yes, yes, it seems to me that there is also such a surge now if you go to stores in mass markets, yes, that is, these black and white dresses with white collars, it just seems to me that this is the influence of wenzi on this yes well, it’s beautiful, it’s beautiful now, and even that’s good that it affects are the kids who are starting to buy these school uniforms okay? someone is lucky who has a black school uniform in the schools there, because for me it was an absolute disaster when in our gymnasium there, out of black uniforms, one year we were told that all black school uniforms were not allowed, now we have blue in school
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, for me it was a disaster, i always loved the school uniform , but everything was perfectly ironed, everything was always perfect , some beautiful knee socks, there were skirts, i thought that this uniform was wonderful... it fits and - well i still had gymnasium, i had a gymnasium, where everyone sat like this , all these, well, beautiful ironed white blouses, there is this severity, i always liked it very much and i adored august, when you go to some stores and buy this a school uniform, plus you also combine a vest or a jacket or this skirt in some way - but for some reason some kind of blue uniform was absolutely unacceptable for me, i don’t know, not that i, i like the blue color, but, but black - this is some kind of professional color for me, to this day in theater universities too they stick to black, somehow your black was total black, or what?
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no, black and white, and black and white, of course, black and white, then there was blue, which was blue and white, respectively , yes, blue and white, yes, and then in general, next year for some reason we have, you see , there was some kind of fruitful year that was constantly changing... well, in general, it’s so impractical, it’s like buying yourself a wardrobe, but suddenly next year you need to change it , just after black gray blue there was a year when there was a rebellion of parents who said are you really are you stunned or what? by the way, i’m wondering who makes the decision in schools about what the school uniform will be, who would have known, i remember that they even brought us booklets so that we would treat our parents and the parents would choose this school uniform. that is, they even make booklets, that is, they made booklets, but of course, there are costume designers for school uniforms , of course, school uniforms, this was our gymnasium, it seems to me that these are some kind of orders, i don’t know what they are like -the company offers a more, perhaps inexpensive form,
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director, well, that is, you could buy something directly at the school, or you had to select it somewhere yourself, come up with this idea that they even gave us some kind of school uniform of this particular color. but you could buy this color, that’s how it was, and that is, they gave you some kind of references and you could either buy it at school or improvise somewhere yourself, but then i say, after this scatter, we were simply told , that there will have to be a school uniform, blue, gray, black, it doesn’t matter, then i i stopped liking everything, well, because everyone was different, i don’t know, but i always loved consistent styles, adding something, some elements, for example, a beautiful collar, i had those at school a lot, i bought these, and i wore different ones, emphasized my image, i could wear some kind of classic skirt, an ordinary white shirt, i constantly changed collars and always got great
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pleasure from it, there are some kind of shoes, and by the way, what, what shoes go with this style and are there any acceptable standards for what you can wear, of course, but it was always shoes or ballet shoes. is it possible to have a nap in heels? no, heels are not allowed, heels are not allowed, right? no, if it’s a heel, then it’s such a mini, well, how is it such a square, such a small flat heel, and we weren’t allowed heels, sneakers weren’t allowed, although it was sometimes strong, now i can say that i have a younger sister, and to this day he studies at the same gymnasium and, to my great regret, the uniform is no longer a uniform, because recently we went shopping with her, she talks about i want to buy such a knitted vest , you know, now the fashion has gone big, they are even bigger, such massive knitted long vests, and that is, not these small ones that are for you, no
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no no, these are the knitted vests with this neckline, well, we’re trying them on right away, i say sofika, let’s take a smaller size, she tells me no, now it’s so fashionable, that is, she puts on these... a large vest that almost reaches her knee, this is how they go to school it’s possible already, that is, i’ve already even reached the school uniform, and apparently the jackets there have these big... shoulders, something that is now kind of stylishly fashionable, if it doesn’t go out of the color category, well, school, let’s say, seasoned white, black, blue, gray, that ’s fine. recess is over and we are back to fashion lessons. we have costume designer anna khrustaleva and actress milana bru in our studio today. anna, did you take into account all these modern trends in school uniforms when... i’ll tell you again about
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our work with director olga akatyeva, we we initially agree with her that when we make any kind of movie, we already have six projects, we try to adhere to the principle of timeless aesthetics, that is, of course, i take into account, look, review how schoolchildren dress now, but we slightly smooth out all the trends, that is heroes who, by their nature, must follow trends, of course, they stand out, they look the part, but still these are not exaggerated big jackets, here are the huge vests that milana is talking about now, that is, we are slightly smoothing them out so that after 20 years old, the viewer who watches, i hope our movie, and he wasn’t surprised there , it didn’t look somehow ridiculous to him, that is, so that the aesthetics were so harmonious, as i understand it, milan’s heroine is such a girl, that’s another thing, what character traits did you try to reflect in her
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costumes and in what ways did you achieve this? well, firstly, there had to be a transformation, that is, at first we see milana and do not suspect anything, we see an idyllic picture, the main character and his girlfriend, but then they gradually appear some features of a steel lady careerist, respectively, there are a minimum of prints , straight lines and very... it was important to show such a charismatic character, because the girl achieves her goal, everything seems to go according to her plan until some point, and therefore these bright colors, they are so rich, charismatic, that is, if you want to show a career woman in a movie, then you use bright colors, no, i always, that is, firstly, you need to look at the actress’s appearance naturally . that is, i
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i see that milania will suit, that is, some more delicate colors will suit another person and this will also show his strength, and then naturally you need to look at i don’t know, in what room this is all happening, well, that is, a huge number of different ones are taken into account factors, but naturally, if a person is so straightforward, strict and so on, these are more straight lines than soft, smooth, fluffy textures, there and so on, that is, this is... obviously, i think, in working on images in prepe style, where did you get the things, you can buy them everything in stores, or you had to sew to order, or something , maybe found at blash markets, you know, assistants are looking for things everywhere, that is, i don’t really care where exactly they find it, i need it to be tried on there was a certain number of things, very different, of which, references, technical specifications, sketches, i gave.
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photographs, i have to draw something in photoshop, if i can’t find such an accurate picture that conveys it, well, now artificial intelligence can create any images you use, by the way, i haven’t tried it yet, i’m somehow afraid to step into this direction, but of course, by the way, i know that your colleagues are already creating movie posters using artificial intelligence, that is, they give them all these movie references, they draw imposters and say , which is sufficient. it turns out very interesting, but still the style is recognizable, that is, you can see from the picture it was created by artificial intelligence or such an imperfection, it is also supplemented there, that is, you can give a task, they will make pictures for you, and you can do it there supplement or use, they are even a little bit like such a source of inspiration turns out, but in general this topic seems to me endless, very interesting and this is some part of the future 100% for cooperation.
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with artificial intelligence, but i hope that our profession will not be completely managed, and we will still be useful in the cinema, but this is actually our present, because stores are now opening where you can try on clothes in virtual fitting rooms, that is you send a photo, these are the images that you can buy in stores, you try them on virtually, oh, i didn’t know that, wow, they already exist, even in russia there are already stores where you can completely experiment with this. or see how this or that style fits on you, it’s not an exact calculation of how it fits, well, it’s approximate, but you can still imagine, you don’t have to waste time, just look. yes, yes, you can, you can speed up the process of selecting clothes , it’s interesting, yes, that it appeared first on the internet, these are the fitting rooms, virtual, but i probably didn’t know about the stores either, this is somewhere in japan, in russia , yes, yes, creating these images, and you
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coordinate directly with the characters who wants to look like, we had to work with milana, with the actors, you mean, and we this is usually done at fitting. we’re already discussing and, uh, with milana in general, with most of the participants and most of the characters, we somehow got along almost immediately, but some of the actors argue, there are such cases, in my career, thank god, well, less and less often, i think , how experience matters, how more and more developments some with whom you can come with a ready-made image, who it is better to call in advance, discuss over the phone, but there is an idea, for example, that i cannot bring the actress ravshana kurkova to the mass market and they need some higher brands simply because that it’s like a person of such status, an actress of such status, she plays toshana, wears only luxury brands in the movies , i can’t say that only luxury brands, she also understands that she is acceptable, she plays with us, having memorized the school’s school
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, she works very deeply and subtly on the images, she understands that the teacher not at school she can go to luxury, but to show that she is married to... a very wealthy man, which is later revealed in the film, was also important, that is, we selected jewelry that matched her, all the texture lines, colors, these were taken from luxury clothes , but still in terms of content, that is, there were there, there was a masmarket too, it was just somehow diluted like that, milana, it helps, this image through clothes to get used to the role, yes, of course, in general i’m already... today i said that for me, as an actress, there is no such thing that i i won’t act in this, i don’t like it, because i’m an actress and i have to do my job, that is, there are no roles that you would refuse, this is in my opinion, it’s like my opinion that everyone should
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do their work, well, well, the makeup girls, they have to do their job, make their images. on me like clay, and the girls, the costume, the costume designers must see me in this image, the director must give me tasks that i must perform, and i, in turn, must combine all this, because this is my profession, to justify why this, this, this, this , this is in one person, also the text , this, the script, her way of thinking, her way of moving, her way of life, her way of behavior, why does she dress like that? why she wears makeup like that, i have to justify this as an actress, and i believe that every image can be justified, every task can be completed if you think about working on it, that is, this is what my heroine doesn’t do for me maybe, well, that means answer the question why maybe, that is, i think that
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it still needs to go deeper, do it the way they tell you, because it seems to me that there is professionalism in this, but when ... i won’t do it, it doesn’t suit me, it’s me, but a person knows better what works and what doesn’t suits your character, because that’s what he’s here for, so i’m specifically talking about the artist and the director, naturally, who sees this image, because you see the image of yourself as in a mirror, like who will like me or not i like it, and the director, let’s say, sees the picture as a whole, just like the artist, he sees how they will all be combined together, so in this sense, i believe that you can’t talk only to yourself, you need to give... to people who already see like this, and i only look like this, repetition is the mother of teaching, i advise you not only to watch, but also to review episodes of podcast lab on the first website, today with me in
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