[000:00:00;00] death, you are afraid, you are afraid, everyone is afraid, and you are afraid, you are the same person as everyone else, neither god nor prophet, a man of flesh and blood, suddenly you have to answer, but what will you answer them? and you say, don’t be afraid, go, go, go,

go outside, finish all this right now. and where are you there, está bien, everything is fine, sir, what’s wrong with you? sylvia, call the doctor, there’s a big game on the air, and there’s an expression, two worlds, two

politics. today it received this expression, it is actually not that big, if you look at the size of the population, the size of the territory, especially in terms of the national product, other countries led by china and russia are ahead of this g7, but out of habit they call themselves the g7 and behave as such. as if they, they have determined that russian assets will be frozen, in some cases even confiscated, and under all conditions this issue cannot even be returned to until russia compensates ukraine for ukrainian losses in the war that

is now taking place in territory of ukraine. press secretary of the president of russia dmitry peskov. they are consistently working towards illegally continuing the seizure of our assets. this is illegal, it is against all possible rules. this will, of course, be contested, and contested indefinitely by our country. this will entail very serious legal costs for those who make such decisions and use such decisions. of course, we will also work on response measures. they can hardly be mirrored, but they will be like that. dmitry. this is what has been going on for a long time time, if you like, the standard expression in russia in russian diplomacy was mirror measures, in general it was believed that this was how one should respond, now it is clear that in a number of situations mirror measures do not work, are inadequate, overwhelming

sanctions were not adopted against russia, and western gold and foreign currency resources were not and are not stored in russian banks, so it is clear that the russian response, in order for it to be effective, it cannot be a mirror image, will see if they understand in washington and other capitals of the g7, that when changes are made in russia, a list of what russia can do about this, i... i don’t think that we will try to voice and debate this on a television program, but i want to assure that if there is , if you want, common sense and imagination, the list can be quite long, but a different type of decision, they were made in moscow by the mission, this is what

the president of russia said about this, russia and china, not to build any military alliances, following the example of the cold war wars, our interaction with you are constructive in nature, a serious factor in stabilizing the international situation, we work in the economic sphere ahead of time, achieve the goals we have set for ourselves, we work on the international platform, in international organizations and, above all, in the united nations, but we pay enough attention to our regional platforms, which are increasingly acquiring character via skype from shanghai nelson wong, president of the shanghai center for strategic and international studies, famous chinese specialist

in international relations, mr. mong, welcome you, you know what kind of meeting took place, you heard what president putin just said about this, your assessment of this meeting. the fact that the relationship between china and russia is quite unique, it differs from what the west says about this, this is not the mentality that existed during the cold war. shows how we do not have a military alliance, we have a partnership, a partnership that meets our interests, helps

build a new world order, let’s say, in his time, kaiser wilhelm, wrote after he was overthrown from the throne as a result of the revolution in germany, he wrote that one of... it was his illusion, which was supported by the people around him, his illusion that england was not will intervene in the war , and that, accordingly, germany will be able to deal only with russia and france, and england , as it were, will support russia and france, but from the country, if china and russia. will emphasize that their military-technical cooperation is not an alliance, that the g7 countries, first turn in washington that they, too, may have the illusion that they can

put pressure on china and russia individually, and what is called, act on the principle of divide and conquer, that despite what china and russia say about our partnership, the west i got the impression that our two countries are still getting closer and that something like a military alliance is being formed, but i would answer this question this way: time will tell, time will tell, we need to look forward, we need to think about the future, and the future is not the past, we don’t need to equalize what what happens today with what happened before, i very often say: russia is not the soviet union, and china is not old china. our two countries in today's world face

pressure from different sides, but russia and china are both large countries on the eurasian continent. we will learn to cooperate, understand each other, and most importantly, most importantly, respect each other. then it seems to me that we have the potential to build a future world order, where it will be good for everyone, all of humanity, and i again i emphasize that time will tell, time will tell who is doing what, who, in statements by american leaders, certain distinctions are made in the american approach to china to russia, they say about china that it is the main rival, and about russia they say that it is an immediate adversary, and that

the united states needs to focus on the long-term fight against russia at this stage; are these american statements taken seriously in beijing? it seems to me that it is quite obvious that they think exactly as i do just said, it's hard for them to let go of the cold war mindset. because at that time they tried to enlist the support of china in opposition to the soviet union. well, let's say the united states won the cold war. suppose, suppose, i personally believe, that the soviet union was not defeated, but it simply disintegrated, but it disintegrated

by its own choice, but today on the global stage, the united states has shown very clearly, as you just said, that china is for them a long-term challenge, and russia an immediate threat, but again again, this is completely different, the us has never been perceived as an enemy. what does china need today? china needs a new world order, a new world system that allows for the coexistence of different states. it's very different. that is why chinese leader xijen announced a new initiative. he said, not

only to chinese citizens, but addressing. more countries understand what china is doing today, and the partnership between china and russia is not directed against any third country, this partnership is aimed at the good tomorrow, to see you on our air, thank you, it’s your wards who are making trouble at the g7, how many leading countries are there from europe, and first of all, let me give you a rebuff, yes, about the g7, but they never themselves they didn’t call it big, in those, uh, prehistoric times, when it became the big eight, and

even then this was the result of incorrect decoding - the letters g, g are groups, not grand, not great, not great, yes, therefore - i i would still suggest to all ae, as they say, to perceive them proportionately, and proportionately, yes, there i would be, yes, longer than i could have imagined, i was initially an ambassador, which means i read carefully. today's communication of the foreign ministers and some of the statements that were made on the sidelines, well, what can i tell you, regarding the theft of our assets, i perceive this as just another, so to speak , you don’t have to comment on them, but so far they have not risked simply confiscating , so what are they talking about, we won’t give them to you until

something happens there, until the damage to ukraine is compensated. i think that it is the result of some kind of internal compromise, because those who want it as soon as possible, it’s time , and what we observed is these approximately 300 billion, of which more than half are in the european union, and the largest chunk, by the way, is in belgium, for this, if we perceive them as deposits, then they receive some kind of interest, they decided on this percentage - 2 billion, this tax, well, that’s their right, it’s like the money is in their jurisdiction, they have the right to introduce some kind of tax there , rather than

touching the main body of this - this asset, so they want to use it, so, naturally, we should not relax, the desire of the user, by the way , the same applies to those substantive elements that the european union is trying to include in the upcoming twelfth package of sanctions, the package will be very soon, a little any day now, i admit, because the minister of foreign affairs is not going to meet soon. and the second is russian nuclear fuel , neither the seven nor the european union itself have yet made a decision, they are now clinging to each other, the eu says, well, we’ll wait for the seven to decide, and the seven seem to be addressing them back,

the prime minister of belgium, who is, of course, tied to the yesov business, and this is mainly alrosa. if he leaves antwerp, where he supports in many ways, this center of trade and processing of diamonds into polished diamonds, otherwise this business will simply move, and everyone knows perfectly well where, he will come to mumbai, who will be worse off from this, who will be better off, well let them decide for themselves, stations that operate on russian and soviet nuclear fuel. moreover, serious people in this area, they understand that you can’t just take out some rods and put in some other ones without coordinating the technology of this with the country that produced the reactor from the company that produced this reactor,

so this is quite dangerous, by the way, one once it was sent for repairs by a frenchman, it ended in an emergency situation, a pre-emergency , let’s say, and a request to the then government of hungary to our rosatom, as they say, save and rectify the situation, which was done, now i know what to call it, this company washington, and as if in a group, a group, or better yet, or even better, thanks to the professor, a group of eight, a gang of eight will go? but considering that we just talked about chinese topics, this and that idea comes to mind, but it seems to me that you are a little too generous to them in terms of the fact that the mountain gave birth to a mouse, yes, from the point of view of the specific punishment, i’m trying to imagine the foreign ambassador

who was assigned to negotiate on this matter, chuchuvu says, yes, we agree to... truce, only all sanctions will continue until you agree to pay ukraine, multi-billion dollars, that is, not just multi-billion dollars, well , i wouldn’t limit myself to this, i would issue them a counter -invoice for the damage that was caused to russia and its interests and the fact that such a calculation we are carrying out, and there is no doubt that this is a very correct approach from my point of view, and it is pleasant to hear, it is less pleasant to hear , let's listen, we see that the international situation remains extremely

difficult, tense, in a number of regions old problems have worsened and appeared new hotbeds of conflict, in particular in the middle east, where a new round of the palestinian-israeli confrontation has been provoked, from which it is primarily civilians who are suffering. global instability is projected by states that are directly aimed at undermining legitimate power, social stability and traditional values ​​in the cis countries. to violate our traditionally close trade, cooperation, and cultural ties. well, the minister of foreign affairs of russia, sergei lavov , also spoke about this subject and spoke very harshly, in general he is absolutely sure that this is not by accident, i really want to hope that the fact that this is not an accident, with all the ensuing

consequences, will be understood by washington, brussels in other capitals, groups, let's listen to what minister lavrov said. a special role is given to illegal, unilateral restrictive measures , the so-called sanctions against russia, and their number is unprecedented and exceeded 17. the goals are not hidden, to undermine the russian economy, to force the political leadership to abandon an independent line in foreign affairs, to set up. against the authorities, this a directly declared goal, although the west has always pursued a policy in which sanctions do not target the civilian population, this is a lie, this is exactly what they are doing, i repeat once again, the goal is

to provoke unrest, to raise the people against the authorities, alexander dugin , this is a very serious statement, and extremely specific, firstly, do you agree, you know as well as i do, well, in general, russian assessments, they don’t take them too seriously, they are more interested in what russia is doing, well and what russia can do is yours opinion, you know, i conditionally agree with the minister’s assessments, but this whole situation , it is already stable, resembles the picture that the west is not only talking about sanctions, taking away ours, our reserves that we placed there in the west and simply fighting with us, a coalition of 52 countries supplies... our enemy directly with weapons, and this is the war they are waging against us, not in words, but in deeds. russia, in

my opinion, for now, that’s why, in my opinion, you are right that the west does not take our statements very seriously, because in fact, russia always, well, every day they confirm, and the seven, this group of seven confirms, that it is at war with us, that it is going to fight with us to the bitter end, and we say, but we leave for... the right to take some actions , and as soon as we threaten some things and then don’t carry them out, accordingly, even our evasive, cautious threats, they completely lose their meaning, well , for example, we are told that we will interfere in your internal rules of sovereignty, but they violate everything, whatever, they have rules, a name is established and changed when it is convenient for them, then the same gold and foreign exchange reserves, we, in general , ordinary people believe that nabiulina took the gold and took them to the west, but this is not so, agreements were signed

, papers, where this gold was in russia, it is there, but we signed obligations, from the point of view of which we should be accrued interest, we should from your point of view, you need to change, so we are simply breaking these rules, that’s it, we we are breaking off relations with you, the same the very presumptions of non-interference, why don’t we intervene in the internal politics of the united states, the european union, start supporting those structures that are not afraid, and then effectively, why don’t we fight with them, i mean in ukraine, in full force, not expecting any peace negotiations, because we, now we win , we can consolidate this victory, they will only talk to us after our victory, before our victory, they believe that especially after this wavering ambiguous policy, they are serious with us , they definitely won’t be counted, that’s it, what will they offer us, if they offer anything at all... it will be so much lower than the level acceptable to us that we can consider it just white noise, so we need

to fight with the west, as they have already given us an evasive offer, until even with china, we have now heard that china does not want to say directly that it is concluding a military pact with us, it says: we will see, we will see, this nelson vank, he says: we, then you will win, and then you and i will think about it, really, but we are fighting now, blood is now pouring on... our forces are also being cut off now, we need support now, and not later, when we win, then we from china will speak differently, like metric, but if someone says, i am your enemy, i will kill you, i will use all means for this and i will not take anything into account, and you say, wait, wait, young man, they don’t do that, you’ll be a bandit, he he says, i am a bandit, i came to kill you, to kill your children with an ax and everything that’s yours to take away property, we say, well, this is not according to the rules, against the geneva rules. somehow our conversation with the west is not going well, and you say, harshly, says lavrov, yes, harshly, but they are building their unipolar model,

holding on to it cruelly, talking about strengthening their hegemony and frankly not only declaring war on us, but it is being carried out with us, we must admit, alexander , tell me, i apologize, i cannot agree with you and, frankly speaking, i do not understand your accusations of the ambiguity of our policy, because - according to your logic, we should be similar to the one on which we build our foreign policy and the observance of which we seek from the rest of the world, so a military alliance with china, and what is in our interests now to conclude a military alliance with china, but i don’t agree with this, that’s your right, that’s there is a half-hearted policy, no, this is not a half-hearted policy, because it means practically nothing to us. well, tomorrow, tomorrow he will send his troops to us, and we need this, gentlemen, no, uh, i’m very

sorry, you may have a dispute about international... right, i can’t argue with the producers that we should go out for advertising, we’ll be back in just a few minutes, this will help everyone, the program is to live healthy, it always helps to educate, tomorrow is the first. rom kastro is a product of stellar group. and so i’ll ask you a specific question, well, uh, they kicked it out

in response to the aggressive actions of the collective. the west against russia, so that russia would respond in a mirror to the ukrainian counter-offensive by responding now with its own offensive, when we know that the offensive implies a great, great superiority not only in numbers, but in air defense, for some reason , knowing you, i don’t think you’ll say, let ’s rush into such an offensive, right? yes, absolutely not, it’s better for the military to know when to organize an offensive, to what extent, with what forces, what for this, i’m talking about something completely different, we didn’t use colossal things, this is a completely different question, including in relations with our other partners in multipolar world, we have not yet put forward

a clear, clear, consistent program, we will now be the leaders of brix, we must offer them a worldview, we must offer them one, then there will be... a world order in which this hegemony will not exist, and this is a conflict, we cannot satisfy the west’s desire to preserve hegemony and fight this hegemony , depending on how much we like them, we don’t like them, if they destabilize this hegemony, they are our friends, we must give them bonuses, we must invite them here, we must encourage them, we must act use the enormous potential of diplomatic, intellectual, geopolitical, and ultimately cultural strategies in order to move into a civilizational conflict, but he also says: let’s avoid a civilizational conflict, if we are already in it, how can we avoid it, and for everything there is a time, yes, for some reason you can be late, there is, it is possible, it is possible, in politics, the time factor decides everything, i think that, in general, again, i know you a little, i think that you and i, if we sat down , we

somehow, i think we're talking about a lot, you agreed, but only i... seem to proceed from the fact that the senior military leadership understands some experts, i take experts very seriously to our expert opinion, but i always proceed from the fact that the difference between an expert and a statesman is that experts do not make decisions , that experts are not responsible for these decisions, that when i talk to this... program, i want to assure you, i am trying to be responsible for the decision, so many of the things that are like would you mentioned, again using the statement of president putin, but i understand that my hands are itching, my hands are itching too, because so many unacceptable things are being done that i really want to respond and respond quickly,

immediately, but if we want to respond effectively, we will talk to you in a few minutes about whether we are able to think correctly, and i know that you have thought a lot about this topic of thinking, i would really like to hear your assessments, but for now let’s talk with our outstanding military expert, dmitry rozdenko, and tell us now we can no longer say what is happening, on the line of division of ukraine, contact, we already have me. it seems that neither in politics, nor in military affairs, there is no need to scratch anything at all, this is fraught, you need to think and think with a cool head, what is happening on the line of combat contact in ukraine, we still agree more closely, well, battles are going on with varying success , to say that we are advancing like this, bravo, front-line operation, no, you can’t say that, the fighting is very heavy, but these are

local battles, and the reason, well, first of all, if look at almost everything as if in the process of, well, its evolution, this is... police missions, peacekeeping operations , some special operations, but not a big war, here is basically a big war, quite big, with a lot of casualties from... . a large number of resources involved, key points, well, this, of course, is avdievka, that is, where serious intense battles are taking place, the task of our troops is to surround the area, a small tactical theater of military operations, this is the main thing, of course, then, then there will be a cleanup and the like, the goal of this operation is to try as much as possible to push ukrainian troops away from the donetsk republic, that is, to reduce the number of strikes. although it will not be completely reduced, cannon artillery will not hit, rocket artillery will hit, that is, given the nature of the ukrainian regime and the characteristics of the ukrainian regime, in any case, they will shoot at the civilian

population with all possible methods, if only because they do not consider them people, i remind you of poroshenko’s words, our children will go to school, their children will sitting in basements, that is, nothing has changed since then, it has only gotten worse, exactly the same, the same line of behavior of the israeli troops in the gaza strip. there is naturally even tougher, even more, i would say disgusting behavior, disgusting in terms of not that, uh, killing militants, you cannot kill the idea, that is, in itself, this structure opposing israel, it will then be reborn, reborn, like hydra already has a large number of heads, so israel is depriving some of its own, local tasks, we see this, as i said, their main task is to oust the people from the gas territory, that is, the northern gas is cut off, the city is blocked, corridors are opened for people to leave, in the process of people leaving, arrests are made, everything is caught, so, that is, there is a question here, you know, on both sides, whether democracy, legality is observed there on this side or on the other, or is all this

based on some rules that they come up with themselves, but the process of displacement itself, it goes on, then there is uh, what will happen next, well, it’s hard for me to say, i can say only one thing, the number of civilian lives that israel will take will be very large. and this doesn’t even resemble revenge for the terrorist attack committed by hamas, it’s more reminiscent of the place of the israeli military, i understand that you most likely do n’t want to be in this place, but sometimes it’s still useful to understand the perspective of another country, here they are they will tell you that october 7 was the worst day for the jewish people since the holocaust, they will tell you, and you have seen terrible, terrible pictures of what hamas did, some of it’s even somehow awkward for me to mention these things on tv in any detail, well, how could israel not

answer this, if israel has to answer this, then no, there’s no good answer from the point of view of these israeli politicians, military experts, in addition to how to destroy control, hamas. over the people's law, because if you do it as the military wants, then you will have one tactic: close to what the idf, the israeli army, is doing now, and if with professors of international law, they will say that israel will be accused of genocide, and the israeli military will say to you, you know, after what happened on october 7, in the skain case they will be accused of genocide, than we will be an israeli... soldier and will tell you: isn’t that what the united states was guided by ? , when they dropped atomic bombs on hiersima on gossaki, why after that this bombing

was never condemned in the united states, since even after that president biden gives moral lectures so that you respond? well, first of all, you understand what the matter is, there is also an arab state, that is how it all went. then israel is not so pure, we can understand, turn it around so to speak, they don’t say that they are pure, they say that they do what they, as military men, must do, out of necessity, exactly, i think, the same they said the same thing, the german fascist invaders, when they executed kosmodemyanskaya, you know, because she defended her territory against the enemy

who occupied it, demanded... a very real problem that outrages me, i now carefully choose my expressions, how little we hear ...answer, but i know that such a discussion, we just didn’t see it happening in the near future, we see it, although i have a question addressed to the israeli leadership, okay, you say, oust, liquidate hamas, oust

the palestinians from... well, okay, hamas, the remnants of hamas will move to the west bank of the jordan river, a radical regime , so to speak, and what will you do with them ? , it unwinds, and if it is in at some point not to break it, it can be broken by the method of victory or... the only correct decision would really be, but which israel will never accept, the americans will never accept, this is precisely following that declaration, the creation of two states, perhaps there was between them there would be a constant military confrontation, but there is a state of israel, there is no arab state, there is a pseudo-enclave, because if we look at the west bank of the jordan river,

not everything there is under the control of the palestinians administration, these are... some small islands, that is, there is an entire settlement there, the creation of which was condemned by the un , by the way, the european union, everyone else, we’re leaving for advertising, we’ll be back in just a few minutes, mosgaz, cherkassov’s latest case, from november 13 , after the program time is on the first. i have to say that i have a certain sympathy for the israeli arguments of the united states, when washington demands from tel aviv more restraint, more humanity, but i know that many israelis want it that way say, friends, we

learned all this from you, their second people. well, when they started to rebel, including doing it with very tough, i’m not afraid to say barbaric, methods, then of course, immediately, the civilized american establishment declared, but we told you, we warned you, these are absolutely terrible people, with them no agreements are possible, to take away their territory from them, move them to another place and generally, as it were, liquidate them as an independent culture within the united states, which is what was done, and of course, this is not an argument that can seriously be used in favor of israel, but this is an argument that somewhat explains why there are no israelis in the united states, because the americans themselves were there, but now this is

one of the most important practical questions for me, alexander dugin. i know that you have thought a lot about this and written a lot. but here’s how to organize russian society and the decision-making process in russia, thus implementing more effectively its decisions in the field of national security, in a situation where a considerable part of the russian elite , including the foreign policy elite, it’s no secret at all, in general, never supported the special operation, maybe i’m wrong, well, what should we do about this? well, it seems to me that this is the question we have, i think that from the point of view of both the management of the military side of a special military operation and the political will of our president and...

the people and, in general, the reorientation of a significant part of our intellectual managerial elite towards victory, these are all very positive processes, they are happening every day, maybe we don’t see them so brightly, and maybe we shouldn’t try to speed them up, since they are coming anyway, but the fact is that we see one civilization, we deny the anglo-saxon world and the global west the correct universality of their rules and values , principles, including genocide, nazism, racism, all their other wonderful properties that they are now exchanging with the israelis, which of them are more racists, who has what of this destruction and genocide and the indigenous population , well, studied more, this is an obvious question, we from we are sailing away structures, networks that are vital from this civilization with which we are saying goodbye, with which we are at war, with which we are in conflict, with which we are breaking off these intellectual, or perhaps spiritual ties, whose

rules we are ceasing to accept more and more every day and more unambiguously, but they are still connected simply organically and this hinders the improvement of our society, well, here we either need to get along with this group, that is , they talked on this program, and not only on this program, it’s not like this is in russia is the official party of defeat, these are people who basically consider themselves loyal, very often they not only consider themselves, but in general are loyal, they simply, well, if you like, not only have a different point of view, but also a largely different psychology . from people with a somewhat, well, if you like, more clearly expressed patriotic position, it’s one thing to create some new structures, including analytical structures, and another thing to organize some kind of purge, i don’t think you would

like to see this , no, of course not, but the point is that, please note, in different conditions freedom of thought rises in different ways, for example, unless of course, i can hardly imagine that even on the eve of the war with nazi germany there were such sympathizers, although they say there were, there is such a study that there were, so we concluded pacts with them, not attacks, there were people who, in general, had a good attitude towards nazi germany, but when the war began from that moment, no one treated this position with any delicacy towards this free-thinking, these people must to be at least removed, removed from those positions in which they could cause harm, because they stand napoleon very many loved on the eve of his invasion, there is a bust of napoleon in front of the entire elite, this is a wonderful, this is a wonderful example, many of borodin’s heroes were people who before that they had great sympathy for france, absolutely true, but