[000:00:00;00] to a large extent was in the nature of some kind of revenge, of course, and this too, the end of the reformer is known to us, as a result, the grenewitzsky bomb, yes, several attempts, unsuccessful, and then, yes, a successful attempt, this period, or something, i would put an end to here, because then a period of outright freezing begins. alexander ii , this is a separate song, to a large extent, this is a continuation, and a separate song, well, the unsuccessful reign of the last russian emperor, the victorious over russia extended wing after the first year, now we understand that without the abolition of serfdom, it simply might not have happened, because the plans were appropriate, as

we have already said, and the lag became disastrous, but what comes next is the agrarian question, the main question of russia, because the bulk of the population is the village , this is christianism, they tried not to touch it, they tried to freeze it in every possible way, this played a role, of course, we have already talked about this, but it is very important to emphasize once again, it subsequently played a disastrous role, because this main question remains in the first russian revolution, in the seventeenth year even too, that is, it stretches until the seventeenth. of course, of course, of course, i think that the topic of serfdom, it lasts until, as you said, until the seventeenth year, it to a huge extent predetermined the entire future path of russia, played its role, a negative one in general

, until... the change and negative due to half-measures, half-liberation , which contributed to the radicalization, so to speak, in principle of russian society, which , first of all, as you correctly noted, consisted of peasants, so yes, this is very an important point and yes, if russia had not carried out the abolition of serfdom, it had a chance to collapse altogether, these half-measures ultimately largely detonated in 1917. this is a historical podcast russia and the west on the swing of history. today we tried to deal with the issue of the abolition of serfdom . ilov was with you. study history

with us. russia-west on the swing of history can be viewed on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. welcome to the end times podcast. today i will tell you about how yulian semyonov was eliminated. semyonov is. an absolutely legendary figure, he is more than a writer, more than a publicist, of course, he is mainly known as the author of such a character as stirlitz, on the seventeenth anniversary of spring, this is his creation, this is his novel, which was filmed, this, by the way, was the first tv series on soviet television , and many reproached, i remember that

he... took advantage of the fact that it was the first, as it were, series, that is, there were more than ten episodes, each episode was paid for as a separate film, that is, after this experience, the guest of the television and radio of the soviet union revised the payment system for serial, so-called films. vladimir semyonovich vysotsky sang, i hate gossip and versions, well, here you can’t do without... versions, i also hate gossip in the form of versions, but versions, interestingly, that’s what the top secret publication was called in the holding company, which appeared after the elimination of yuliana semenov, who actually created this holding. generally speaking, the appearance of the first particular newspapers, and top secret was the first private publication in the soviet union, precisely

marked the end of times. because for the first time in 70 years of its existence the state lost its monopoly on the printed word and periodicals. semyonov was running around with this one. the idea of ​​​​creating his own publication, in which he could publish what he considered necessary and whom he read as necessary, had been floating around since about eighty-six, because in eighty-six he created the international association of detective and political novels, whose members were, well, the most prominent writers of the detective genre in the world, semenovich semenov is not just a master of detective fiction... not just a completely unusual extravagant figure in the soviet writing society, he is also a person who differed fundamentally from his

colleagues not in his writing style, not in his approach to writing , and in terms of his views , in general on the universe as a whole, on the prospects of his beloved country, i speak without any... irony of his beloved country, because he loved the country, despite the fact that he had a father repressed, he himself, of course, also had serious enough complaints about the structure in the soviet union, the structure not only in the writing workshop, but in general there were questions about freedom of speech, well, it’s a commonplace that everything is about this they grumbled, but he is the man who broke through... this wall, i repeat once again, he created the first private publication in the soviet union, top secret. in september 2023, it will be 30 years since yuliana semyonova passed away, but then in ninety-

three, his heart simply stopped, and he died long before that, in the year eighty-nine, since the year eighty-nine, he was able, well, what is called, as i... and it doesn’t hurt to talk about it, because i just loved him and love him, he was in a vegetable state, he was actually liquidated, why and how i will tell you today, the newspaper is top secret, it arose as such an experiment, yegor lyagachev, who then oversaw the entire press and all ideology in the soviet union, categorically objected to the ideas of a private newspaper . and then ilian semenovich semenoval: “and this will be a bulletin.” he said, no one asked any questions about what a newsletter was, it was just a monthly newspaper. using, well,

relatively speaking, my official position, i set up a franchise for this newspaper. it was published in moscow by the publisher semyonovich semenov, who had a salary of one ruble. for a year, now, we , the employees, the first employees of this publication were the owners of the newspaper, we were called shareholders, no one understood what it was, no one was particularly proud of this title and did not understand, in general, the essence of it, i was personally interested in what my personal salary would be, what kind of share i would have there, what percentage of this newspaper belonged to me, i was the first full-time employee, that is, i was the first to take a chance on... from the officialdom, i was working at that moment in a magazine change of organ of the central committee, he suggested that i go to him. our editorial office was located in a safe house of the security

department, on what was then kalininsky prospekt, now this is the new arbat. yuliyan semyonovich semyonova and his friends from the ministry of internal affairs assured that all the listening equipment was taken out of the apartment and that we could sit there and talk freely about anything, make our plans, i didn’t turn out to be any natural chief editor, i was just a reporter, yulian semyonovich quickly realized that i didn’t have any organizational talents, well, i calm myself down by thinking that at that moment it wasn’t, then i got them, and he invited alexander plishkov from the ap to the position of chief editor, and everyone was convinced that he was a bad guy, well, in general, many apan journalists worked for this organization, apparently he really was this pear, when he simply asked questions to his forehead, sasha, he laughed it off, but in any case,

he had organizational skills, and there were some, in general, special skills, because he i brought a couple of my acquaintances, who nevertheless discovered two bugs in the kitchen, so one room was julian’s room, where the meetings of the editorial board were held. the second room was the secretarial room and the third room was for the editorial office, in general, two wiretaps were confiscated, yuliana semyonovich was very got angry and turned to the general who actually rolled out this premises, he apologized, said that it was a flaw, well, that’s how we all laughed, no one really worried about it, only one photograph survived, where yulian semyonovich was captured with sasha

pleshkov, this is to the left of yulian semenovich semyonov, this is alexander, and the members of the reading board are ours, this is actually a photograph taken in the very office of yuliana semyonov, that is, in the room where the board meetings were held, alexander pleshkov was very a close associate of yulian semyonov, not because he worked in gru, but because he was his like-minded person in... a journalist, they equally understood the concept of the publication, the layout of this publication was invented by your humble servant, as they say, so we drew it there with the artist, the name of the logo was invented by yulian semyonovich semenov himself, and the entire pilot number was made by just four people, as i remember, dmitry likhanov, my colleague and long-time friend. sasha pleshkov, and, of course,

yulian semenovich semenov himself, who rolled out a bunch some materials that, i believe, were leaked to him by friends from the special services, and things went well, that is, returning to how i used my official position. so, the newspaper was printed in moscow, but since it was printed on such a special coated paper, which could be like a matrix, there were no computers, then... the newspapers were printed from a matrix, this is important to understand, i was then invited to convene in the very a popular program at that time, the transmission of the view of the youth editorial staff of central television, it had in a huge audience, was published once a week, i hosted several episodes at the invitation of my co-hosts with them, in each of these issues i, in the finale of the trias gazeze, there was

no advertising at all on... airtime did not occur to anyone, i remember there in general, such an episode, it’s a little not top secret, about advertising, that quite clever guys from the ocean, who were located in brighton, they began to make such sweatshirts with the inscriptions perestroika, there is glasnost, so... these sweatshirts, and we were happy to broadcast on them, not realizing that there is a whole cooperative selling these sweatshirts, well, relatively speaking for us, that we simply promoted merch, as merch is now called, since there was no control over the possible hypothetical monetization of the airwaves, then i’m in every issue of the look to which i was invited, i was shocked by the way with the next issue of a top secret newspaper that everyone could call

on such and such a phone number, in my opinion there was even a creeping line, or, in general, go to the office, yuliana semenov is top secret, and we will provide them with a kind of license , that is, it was such a franchise, and the newspaper was published in millions of copies in a variety of republics, and was published in the baltic states, in the transcaucasus and in central asia, we quickly gained a very good reputation plan and things were going well, i, as a shareholder, didn’t understand this, because i still didn’t care about what a share was, but there were people who understood the situation, but more about them later, veda vodka, a product of the stellar group, you look,

suit, everyone can feel themselves in that he does not know prejudices, wearing a carnival role that is impossible for him in everyday life, this is the time for the fulfillment of hidden desires, carnival for me is therapy, my psychoanalyst’s name is carnival, there are no social differences in carnival, life is so complicated, we have no there is no reason for celebrations, but suddenly the carnival comes, dancing in sambo, it is so wonderful, living the carnival in rio. matador, fever in rio, tomorrow on the first. when you go to the sambodrome, it’s crazy, it seems like your blood is boiling in your veins turns over, we are back, this is a podcast of the chronicle of the end of times and we are talking about yulianna semenovich semenov and his brainchild is top

secret. at some point, yulian semyonovich thought that he needed to expand, that is, make not just one newspaper, but make several newspapers. it is possible to publish a magazine and since sasha pleshkov is very much his right hand and the first deputy was very busy with organizational issues of expanding the base of this printing house and was constantly going on business trips here and there to one republic or in another i was establishing these contacts, it was decided to invite a person who is quite well versed in media, in western media, and this person was artyom borovik, he was a friend, comrade and colleague of dima likhanov, who actually introduced me to yulin semenovich semenov, but artyom at that time he worked in the very popular magazine ogonyok, under vitaly korutich, and headed the international department there, published

books, one of them was called, as i served in the american army, that is, he actually went on an internship to the pentagon, here a journalist came to the american... and i remember this meeting in the central house of writers, the four of us, me dima likhanov, veronika khelchevskaya, artyom borovyak’s wife, artyom sat for 3 hours, we rubbed it all out, we really tried to persuade him to lose his head , without knowing about it with dima, so that he would come as a deputy to yulian semenov, in the end, artyom agreed and began to work on the issue of creating, in particular, a newspaper version and a magazine of the person, which later appeared in the holding, top secret, but already without pleshkov and without semyonov, because sasha pleshkov was killed in paris in

april of 1989, sasha went there to engage in the so-called gold of the party, now no one remembers this phrase, then in the late eighties, it was... that’s quite the story in the media was noisy in the kitchens discussing it, it was about the fact that people who understood that the soviet union would inevitably collapse, they withdrew resources, the so-called gold and foreign exchange, to the west, in order to then come back with money and well, do what they did, that is, buy up factories, entire industries, and there was a very...' tortured selection system that pleshkov talked about, in the same group, for example, to some resident, intelligence officer, a budget was given, for example, to create some kind of pharmaceutical company that would be a roof for our work, for residents,

or, more importantly, for some kind of business, and people carefully watched how he would manage this money, some... spent , invested all this money in business there, as it were, well, taking into account, of course, some salaries and so on, and some stole, well, that is, they created a business, but another million went somewhere offshore, the person put it to himself, these people were taken into account as promising in the center, that is, they were invited and told, well, we all know how much there is, how much there is, you work very correctly, that is, you are a promising person. just keep in mind that we know everything, they were counting on these people as those who would later build a new society, as enterprising people, and not blinkered people like that ideologically one-vector, who did not think about themselves, but thought only about work

, not without bitter irony and sarcasm, pleshkov told this, that was the idea in general... to deal with this gold of the party, that is, to generally open up this system, in paris we had acquaintances, when i say here, i mean the top secret editorial office, in particular francois moreau, this is a french journalist who admired semyonovich semenov, wrote essays about him, considered him a check for the future, but new russia , and he worked... in the vsd magazine, it’s friday, saturday, sunday, was very popular in those years and the publication in france was about like a light in our country in those same years, and he said that his leadership, the leadership of this magazine, could... offer sensational material for

top secret, well, here we go sasha pleshkov went there, he had breakfast that day with eduard limonov, who lived in paris and who, by the way, thanks to pleshkov and yulian semyonov, returned as a writer to russia, because it was we who began to publish him in top secret, he still there was such a banned writer, but he was already speaking at the end of times, everything was changing and banned names appeared in the press on television, forbidden topics, by the way, i have a photo in the archive where yulian semyonovich talks with eduard in our office, of course, eduard limnov has nothing to do with to eliminate sasha pleshkova, naturally, other people did this; it just so happened that in the morning i had breakfast with him, then he met with the leadership of the vsd. the french were ready

to sell this information, but at the prices which were completely normal for western media, where there are millions of francs, well, there was no euro yet , they were ready to pay for sensational materials, we naturally didn’t have that kind of money, it’s just that in media there weren’t even any advertising budgets, i not only on television, but in newspapers too... at first there was no advertising, but the leadership of the vsd, as yuliyan semyonovich semyonov assumed, they somehow got hold of some of the information and told sasha about who exactly was in france, particularly in the west they are busy accumulating funds withdrawn from the soviet union for further investment in the economy of new russia, in short, he had dinner with the french , returned to the hotel, felt very bad, he tried to call a doctor from

the embassy of the soviet union, the doctor did not come, he went down to the lobby when the party saw that his hotel guests were bleeding from all the orifices, from the nose, ears, mouth, he called the doctors, but it was too late, completely, he was brought to moscow in a zinc coffin. the conclusion of the french doctors was more than strange, that is, it said that he was poisoned, it was not clear what, yulik, as they called him, everyone in our editorial office behind the scenes, naturally semyonovich, because to his face they called him either yuliana or yulian semyonovich, but they lovingly called him yulik, yulik was completely crushed by this story, because he understood that to a certain extent , he himself, so to speak, having given this order, i... having opened this pandora's box, sentenced my deputy to such a rather tragic

fate, and he decided promptly and completely to get rid of the publication, or rather not to get rid of it as such, but to bring it to the international arena, he entered into an alliance with merdek, with rupert merdek, an american media magnate, and decided to start what is called a collaboration, in the presumption that if it was soviet- american edition, it will be easier, in particular, it will be possible to find money to buy the information that the french offered us. a representative of merdeka agreed to come to moscow, yuliyan semenovich semenov wrote a letter to the then head of state, to the general secretary of the communist party mikhailugevich gorbachev, the first president of the ussr, that he was planning such a meeting that he wanted to bring top secret to the international level. and outlined some prospects and how, in principle, this is good for the glasnost that gorbachev promoted, and how cool and

very, very good all this is in general, a representative of merdeka arrived, and we went to negotiations, there were us in addition to the driver, yuliyan semenovich semenov , by the way, she didn’t have any guards, no one at all i was worrying about some kind of security there, that was the mood, i repeat, i, artyom borovik, and yuliyan semenovich semenov himself, a meeting with representatives of mardek was planned there on a ship on the moscow river, and during this trip yulik had a stroke, then he had a stroke, so naturally the meeting did not take place, we went to the hospital, and at that time i... was filming a film about yulina semenov, my friend olivia lichtenstein, whom i met when she was working on a film called

prostitutes, about prostitutes, we'll film then we met, i went to london there for dubbing and so on, so she started a series about new people of the soviet union, not new russians, but new people, svetoslav fedorov was there, kuryokhin and yulian semyonov, in my opinion there are already three tapes for at that time, comrades comrans came out in this series, so she was filming a film based on my script about my... since they were traveling in the second car, they wanted to film this meeting with merdyk, which was supposed to be, well, key in the film, that is naturally, they came with us to the hospital and filmed how we were getting out

yulika from the car, and dima likhanov and other people from the editorial office arrived there, whom we notified, and... dima told me, well, when he saw that my english were filming, this, he told me, are you crazy, well, he used not normative language, but i thought that i really went nuts, because the person we love, he is drooling, has a cloudy look, he is just, well, the picture is not the most attractive, i asked olivia to stop filming, she said harshly , that zhenya... you are not a professional, i say, i am not a professional, i ask you to stop filming, by the way, i later discussed this episode with many people on domestic television, i told them, there was such an episode, wasn’t i crazy, they said, you should have continued filming, if you are a journalist, you work, you record, because

you don’t think about yourself, about your emotions, you think about recording this or that fact , you report, you don’t lie, there is no analytics here, you record, because later you can figure out what to do with this material , and if there is no material, then with there is nothing to do with them, and so i realized that i am not a professional, so since then i prefer to introduce myself as a media icon rather than a journalist, in short, this filming was stopped, that is, they did not film yulian semyonovich, the british were filming us. they filmed me, dima likhanov, artyom borovik, he disappeared immediately, he left somewhere , somehow they pumped out yulian semyonovich, he began to at least moo, say something, the members are not very separate and well, in any case, in his eyes, some something appeared there, and although it was clear

that he recognized people, we left him in hospital, the next day a nurse arrived, i arrived with the british with olivia lichtenstein’s group, and the nurse said that two people came at night, they didn’t even put on white coats, they just showed their id and talked to syulyan semyonovich semenov, after that no one spoke to him anymore , in the sense that he became, well, in such a state that he could only cry and, well, in general, olivia... took off everything, she took off this nurse for a fee, because she got wet, but for a soviet nurse, 100 pounds sterling, it was almost a six-month salary there, then in 1989, she told me all this , when i accompanied olivia to sheremetyevo, they tried to seize these tapes from her, she did not fly

on these flights, she called the embassy at sofia embankment some people arrived there, then she flew away the next day, but she managed to get the source codes, only in the summer of 2021 i met her in spain, she gave these source codes, kindly to me, they were used in the creation of the documentary film of the first channel, and yuliyan semyonovich semenov, and yuliyan semyonovich semenov was still in this state... for some time until september of ninety-three, that is , for another 4 years, and here is a very cool, relatively speaking, moment, a moment that

i thought it was necessary to talk about it in the work that we did together with olga yuliyanovna semyonova, daughter, youngest daughter, semenov, this was just in spain while working on the film about yuts, where all these things were said, uh, across the four seas. i still won't leave him, because he good, good, of course, everything that concerns you, everything that concerns me is me, god, what a man, and i want, the main thing that

a man has, it should be a propeller, fantasy, the next level, tomorrow, on the first . hot ice, on the weekends on the first. love figure skating, appreciate figure skating,

adore figure skating. we are back, this is a podcast, chronicles of the end of times and we are talking about yulian semyonovich semenov and his brainchild, top secret. you can find all episodes of the podca project on the website of the first channel. 1tv.ru, so the thing is that i i repeat, it was the soviet union, nowhere in the world, including the soviet union, there was any internet, there was no internet, there was no mobile communication either, so when a person went on a business trip, and yulian semenovich semenov went on business trips very often, so that work in the editorial office was gone, in general in the holding, he inserted such a pack, a form... with a top secret logo with his signature, where you could type any order, put any date and, as if with his signature, it would come into

force, well it was assumed that he would return from a business trip, if something was printed there, it could have been recalled and disabused, no one could have imagined that a situation would arise when... the person is alive, no, his heart did not stop, he is alive as before, but de facto he is a corpse, de facto he can’t do anything, he can’t say a word , these forms were used, these forms were used, first all shareholders decided on their shares, and dmitry likhanov, and i and many others, including zoya ivanovna, semenov semenov’s secretary, so very famous

the lady who was imprisoned in the stalin camps, and such a nice, completely mesanthrope , everyone was afraid of her, but they loved her, in general, everyone lost their shares, the shares were all accumulated from artyom genrikhovich borovik, artyom genrikhovich borovik settled in semyonovich semenov’s apartment. here the nuance was that yuliana had two daughters, but one of them, olga, with whom we worked, still lived in the city of paris, and the eldest dasha, she is an artist, she was completely far from these some she had its own family, its own problems, its own tragedies, was infinitely far from these some kind of property disputes, in short , the holding ended up with artyom borovik, which in general was not bad, because in fact, artyom, he was younger and much

more advanced than yuliyan semyonovich, firstly, he did not suffer from all these complexes there , relatively speaking, i think that yuliyan semyonovich semenov would have followed this path of creating a holding much longer and not so confidently, because it was under artyom borovik appeared... a newspaper and a magazine of a person in general, in general, an advertising service appeared, that is, holdin flourished, but already ... his competitor and ally, a writer, a detective writer, very famous, said that we were discussing a completely different story, that’s

what- then they remembered. then a few years later, when vladislav listiv, the first head of ort of the first channel, was shot, eh, weiner , remembering this story, said that, how often, killers stand close to the coffin, uh, i don’t know what he meant, because somehow there was no time for that, and actually it was for me then and was not interested, all these things... in fact, in a narrow professional circle they are not a secret to anyone, there was even once another date in the central house of writers, a meeting was arranged, olga came from paris with her grandson semyonov with his son, this is dima likhanov, sitting to the right of the semenovs, dima and i were simply the hosts of this evening, these

things... everyone in the hall sounded, there was a relative close to ilian semenovich semenov, nikita sergeevich mikhalkov, because yuliyan semyonovich semenov, was married to the sister of andrei konchalovsky and nikita mikhalkov on ekaterina, in fact, she is olga semyonova’s mother, and i asked there, here’s nikita sergegevich, and nothing surprised you from what they heard, and he said. that no, nothing surprised him, but i, since i’m not a professional journalist , i’m surprised all the time, i can’t get rid of this unnecessary, so to speak , this, i don’t know whether to say, quality or lack , to be surprised, that is, i can’t, i can’t learn to

perceive information without bias, broadcast it, that of course, it really interferes with my work, but it allows me to think that i am not dooming my soul to death , that the soul is immortal, yuliyan semenovich semenov, it is also immortal, and not because he created these works, not because st. for now they know, even those people who do not know who lion semyonovich semenov is, have seen seventeen moments of spring. and i think what would have happened if pleshkov had not gone to paris then, so that it would be top secret, but so that it would not be top secret, it would be obvious that the vector along which the country is moving is no longer to change what the country would have already decided without yulian semenovich semyonov and without journalists, the main drawback of yulian semenovich semyonov, with all his merits, is that he was also a person, when i say, i also mean myself, this is

perhaps the only thing. what do we have in common, that we were naive, because, of course , i would never risk comparing scale, talent, charisma, but - he was also naive and also assumed that through - some kind of agreements, through publication, by publishing books, and you can influence the powers that be everything, but he didn’t belong to those, although it’s clear that by creating the first private publication he made a contribution to the end of times, although i remember arguments with him, he objected in every possible way to some, i was always in a rush there, i wanted some... then investigative journalism, to expose something, to write , i had some kind of my material about hazing, and he told me, you can’t, you can’t criticize the army, you can’t criticize the special services, you just can’t,

there is...’ there is the party leadership, but for god's sake, you can't touch this base, i it seemed, what a yulik you are, i thought, retarded, what a retrograde you are, yulik, i still love you, i thought, well, here you are wrong, but he was right, he, making his contribution to the end of times, understood about the end times are much better than mine. this was a podcast about the elimination of yulian semenovich semenov, my name is evgeniy dodolev, these are the chronicles of the end of times. hello, here is dmitry bak, the host

of a literary podcast, which is called in very important words, let them not speak, let them read, our guest today is theater and film actor and writer, veniamin borisovich. mekhov, hello, veneminich, let's start, if you don't mind from the very beginning, this is how it all started for you , what was in the foreground, or what was in the beginning, and what then, so, i was born in moscow, in a year before the start of the terrible war, dad went to the front, already being a candidate of economic sciences, already in charge of some sector in the main house of the soviet union, which was called gasplan ussr. my father is a scientist, and when his centenary was celebrated without him, it was at the current

plekhanov academy, where dad taught for many years. and opened the audience of professor smekhov. now that i... i visited him and we approached this classroom. several teachers immediately reported that there was a rumor among students that if you pass the smekov test in this classroom, then you have an ideal reputation, but my father still went to the front in 1940. my family began, what my beloved mother was like, naturally, i had nothing else in the world next to me, and i have nothing more sublime and beautiful and beloved,

we left for evacuation, understandable places, yes, my mother with the second year student was already forced to become