[000:00:00;00] there are many trainers, and you almost have even richer experience, because you have skated in different countries, absorbed completely different, sometimes contradictory information from different specialists, tell us a little about this path about those specialists, maybe someone who especially helped you, because from robin shelkovy to eteri it’s like that for me, that is, if i skated with pair coaches in russia, this is understandable, but robin shelkovy and ateri here they take two different planets for me . listen, this thought came to mind that throughout our entire career, we are like such an experimental couple , everyone was skating mikhailovically, even before your arrival, and then my wife and i, when we had been skating for 2 years, our experiments continued further, that is, we then had robin on the team shelkovy, also for a couple of years, well, i’ll explain that

robin shelkovy is the legendary partner of alena savchenko, with whom she became a five-time world champion and a two-time olympic bronze medalist. and you also forgot to add that this is your very my main rival was, you might add, yes, of course, robin was also my most sworn rival since tatyana volosazhar. well, then, after robin, we changed the coach there again, and already started working directly with you. then we had marina, and at the end there was the iteri tut beridze group, that is, we had a series of such experiments throughout our career. wait, why an experiment, because stas is like a person who has just started training, yes, that is, this is why it’s an experiment, what’s like with him it will work out, then, what is the next experiment, robin too, robin too, also yes, also a foreign specialist, he came to russia, how will he work with the russians, then,

later. then with you too, then with me, that is, you all took on some of these beginners, amateurs, then with me, then with a dance coach, yes, then with a singles skating coach, well, yes, an interesting path, but i want more note that since we trained all the time in moscow, in moscow as such, pair skating schools at the time when i was still young, well, not... was not so strong, that is, all the pair events were there, either in st. petersburg or in perm, and as a result of all these ups and downs with coaches and so on, and the first olympics in 2018, you are on the team and your first, medal - this is a team medal, tell us a little about participation in the team tournament, silver at the pinchan 2018 olympic games, well, these two

olympics were radically different in mood, in impressions and in emotions, in the eighteenth year, i really wanted to perform, i went as let’s say, to holiday, that is me, when we stopped in the village, this atmosphere itself, these competitions themselves , so directly fell into my soul and i really liked it from the first minutes, when we were just checking into the hotel , it was so unusual to see other views there. therefore, when all the species, all the winter species are united under one roof, let’s say, and of course you were preparing for the competition with a fighting spirit, but you were going for gold, let’s not be so direct about creating romance here, you came there as leaders in pair skating, team leaders, that is, you were the first couple, winners of the grand prix final, you were

two-time european champions, yeah, and as a warm-up. tournament, of course, i already had a lot of athletes and coaches here on the podcast, and one of them was koleda, who unwittingly became the anti-hero of this situation, having unsuccessfully performed in the short program, and he told me in the podcast that the only ones who supported him were from the whole team of guys, it was you and dima solov, well, yes, but what could we do, we lived, firstly, there were three of me in the same apartment, but it was clear that after such a speech, well, the person is very worried and he should be at least just how he was worried, tell me what you saw, maybe from the inside, well, what can you tell, well, when he arrived, he simply didn’t have a face, he he was all gray in color, there was such a feeling that there was no face and well, it was clear that

he was just pinched, constrained, well, that’s what i think, but you still need to support the guy and , first of all, skate him another free skate if he still has such emotions if it goes to the free program, then it could be even worse, but no, just completely human. they supported, they said, well, get ready for the free program, what should you say to an athlete in such a situation, what did he say, can you imagine talking to a person who is the leader of the team and is going for a gold medal, that there is also medvedev, zagitova in the team, who also hope for this medal, and he just like that, that’s what he said, what words did you find, what did you say, approximately, at least what you were talking about, that ’s about it, it was like this, misha skated in the morning and the next day after him we performed, i

we watched the broadcast from the phone in front of the bus, watched the performance of the singles skaters, sighed, went to perform with save, it was also hard after , it was easy for me, i just performed after zhenya plushenko, also exactly in sochi, four years earlier, and he, on the contrary, charged me, then yes, i was very worried, i watched zhenya and i thought , well, that’s it, i can’t... i’ll just go out and skate, well, i had emotions that i need to fix it somehow, we’re a team after all, so we need to help the team somehow, and we performed great, scored 10 points, and then in the evening, a little bit, maybe even a rethink came into his head and his mind and emotions calmed down, well, just mishyan, well, this happens, then a silver medal, which one? yes, maybe they could have won gold, but they won silver, it’s still cool , the first olympic games for you, that is, immediately a silver medal, then personal competitions, where you fight back and forth with your sworn friends from china, wenjinsu and

konghan , and it seems that now everything will be fine, but the free program and you you even let in a medal, not just a gold one, but a wooden medal, yeah. got it, tell us a little about this day of the free program, why did you analyze it so many times, so much time has passed , of course it’s difficult to talk about it, it was just such a blow after the competition, but still this is life, this is sport, two irreparable things happened, let’s say , mistakes, which i don’t know, it could probably be stress or really... i wanted this medal to jump out of my pants at the moment of rolling, it may have affected

the first olympics or some kind of inexperience, that’s all, well, no one figured it out, the only thing i remember is that i immediately turned off the phone, stuffed everything in like this with suits, skates, a backpack, went off into the sunset, there’s a lot of it for me... .' calls, from parents, from uh friends, from relatives, everything went by, by the way , i met you in the village, and you were the only one who supported me, said the right words, that i need to continue skating, continue performing, because for me this it was just a day of mourning, and well, i didn’t know what to do next, well, it seems like there are medals, there is europe there and... along with the worlds they gave , well, why continue anything further, when that’s all, the end of the world happened, and you will explain to me what this is, this is normal, the first time we got hooked , we fought there, your olympics are ahead,

the next one, and what about you? i just didn’t know where to go, i felt so bad that i... vova let down the entire coaching staff there and i too, i left and let you down, what happened, were you worried or as it seems to me, yes, i was very afraid, because i knew that you just couldn't handle it morally, yeah, well, even after that, like my failure, i went out, we were still at the skating rink , i went out into the corridor, the coaches were standing there, the judges were standing there and everyone somehow said so, well... nothing scary, everything is fine there , everything happens, well, it didn’t work out, it didn’t work out, but i was like, it’s the olympics, like it’s no big deal, what’s it about? and that’s it, i also

went into a room in the village, sat there and didn’t come out, i also only talked there with my mother, probably the next day, when vova and i met, we talked, and so did vova said there: what does mom say in such cases? mom, mom said, it’s okay, we still love you, yes, we love you anyway, like everything is fine, zhenya, where’s your dress for the city? now you didn’t burn it at maslenitsa, by the way, that’s a good idea, i wanted it, no, it’s hanging at home, in kazan , and at the exhibition, yes, why not, that this is a dress from the free program of the 2017-2018 season, the same, the fourth place at the olympics, those polka dot panties, i still remember those polka dot panties, that's why

i really don't like this dress. coming to in venice, the traveler is more inclined to see his expectations than the city as it is, in the eighties of the century the carnival suddenly revived by itself, the silent or screaming crowd in the square is always ready to turn the world upside down, if the crowd does not want anything, the carnival is impossible, the phenomenon of the mask is difficult to understand, using a mask is a desire to change, hide, become someone else, sometimes people get the crazy idea that there is no more taboo, the energy itself and some kind of action, this is not observed here, not even close, and it seems to me that the russians could breathe a new spirit here, confused masks wander through the venetian squares and streets, but this is nothing more than the shadow of a carnival, why wear a mask if you are not able to give up yourself? matador. venice, winter water, on

friday, on the first. bourbon birman, a product of the stetellar group. for those who have just joined us, let me remind you that this is a podcast-free program, i am maxim toronkov and my guests are my athletes, evgenia tarasova and vladimir morozov. well, then right away you’ll be astounded. more on the head news arrived from the coach, yes, immediately after the olympic games, how it was , you can tell me exactly about this moment, when after such a seemingly unsuccessful skate, well, the free program was probably, it seems to me, in your career , the most unsuccessful, and then there’s this rental, and then there’s this story with the coach, yeah, how was it, how did i end up in your life? it wasn’t such a surprise, let’s say,

because when the olympic season began, the news published a very large article from ning mikhalovna, that i, that is, an interview with nina mikhalovna mozar, and your coach, yes, that i’m just tired, i’m done, i don’t want to train anymore, i’m like, what, the beginning of the season, only, that is, at the beginning of the olympic season you you find out that your coach, in principle, well, no, doesn’t want to work , but it seemed to me, this is a very strange statement or interview, but we worked as a team, that is, that’s all, there were no complaints, that is, we were going to the olympics together, worked together, so, well, at least it seemed strange to me at that time, but then after, well, the games, really, she said that guys, i’m not going to coach anymore, she just said i’m

stopping coaching, look for a coach, and i don’t think for long, you’ve found not a coach, but a commentator who’s on these olympic games was part of, well listen, we are the teams of the first channel and commented on figure skating, we skated in the same group, we saw how you trained, you always helped us a lot, you also set a program for us, a program, yes us... the page has turned over, a new one has begun chapter, a new four-year anniversary, which we have already started with a different composition and how was it? oh, what happened, to be honest, yes , at first it was very difficult, in terms of the three of us, basically, it all comes together, and some organizational issues are already falling on our shoulders. for ours, that is, there was no manager, but somehow the first

year was even more or less, that is, now no one works alone, any type, any group, it’s just a whole headquarters, a whole board of specialists, coaches, who- that is responsible for choreography, someone for sliding, someone for paired elements, someone for choreography, someone for physical training, well, that is, it turns out to be a whole team. that is, these days have long passed when one coach works with an athlete or a couple, the fact is that when you came to me in 1818, it was not only... with ice, with the fact that i was a beginner and so on, and there was also, let’s say, a personal problem between you, that is, you stopped being a couple in life, you met for a long time, it was during the olympic season that it turned out that you broke up, there was this grinding together, again, it all

fell on my shoulders, i just would like to understand how you can maintain such a successful, there is a plus... minus trend at the same time after such a story life, when you were together, and then just decided to skate, everyone can tell for their part, if, well , how it happened, there we both understood that the couple on the ice of us was a very good and promising one and ruin everything that was on the ice now at the moment there is, it... it was straight, to destroy in life it was, in life it was also, of course, such a difficult turning point, but you were the initiator, yes, but it was difficult, as always , women are to blame for everything, there is such a thing, and women win and are to blame for everything, so -

well, there was some complex, not some kind, it was difficult, so we talked, made a decision , uh, all this was not easy, but it was necessary to somehow preserve figure skating, because we both had goals, yes, there was one olympics, unsuccessful, but i don’t want to end my career there at 22-20 years old and it doesn’t make sense then everything that happened before, well, it was somehow difficult, i’ll say it simpler, the priorities would have been set and a sports career is not so long and there are things that are irrevocable, you can get back together there, go your separate ways, everyone’s life turns out differently, people

they play three weddings twice, and if you missed your sports career, for some reason, no matter what, you can’t rewind time, that... it won’t be the same as it was in your youth, so thank you, there’s just a very interesting story about how we got to ekateri georgievna here beridze, the fact is that i produced this still , when we were at a tournament in holland, do you think we should tell you, in holland there was glechenhaus, daniil markovich and maurice, also at the same tournament and we communicated with denmark there, and there i threw this idea at dani that we should get to the olympic games, get into the team, and what a strong team it would be if we were all here as our club there, then timt beridzy would come there and perform, a very cool idea and you give us help, because i understood that without ice it would be difficult for us to continue, and as

it turned out, deter georgievna conveyed this idea to denmark and they were ready for the moment when, what if suddenly we come someday. but after the world championships, which also went poorly for us again, fourth place again, and it’s not really customary to talk about it, it’s not fashionable here, but i started to feel depressed, that is, it’s a real depression, a real one in my life difficult moment, because i gave up, i thought that i couldn’t do anything at all and didn’t know how to do anything, i couldn’t i understand how, at that moment, when i told you that try to approach eter, i was directly pushing you, go, go, go, go, or you went together to talk to tereya georgievna, but i didn’t want to go, so i for some reason it became interesting, why did you still say that if we go, then only with him , because she offered you other specialists there, because they don’t change horses at the crossing, the pre-olympic season is already over,

the next year is the olympic season, something... then some new , uh, specialists who will have to be dealt with again, that is, not with you, they seemed to pick it up, as if in the general vein - they all went together , it was again to re-interpret everything from the beginning, well, i just didn’t want to, and i thought that this was generally, well, it’s impossible to do, i can do anything to say only blessings, gratitude for this path, because it was interesting , emotional for me, and of course, at the end of my life i will remember it all again, maybe everyone is coming up with something there, but this is... cool piece of life, i don’t regret it at all, because i thought later then, well, i would skate like everyone else in these shows, i would play thousands of roles, but these emotions that the olympic games give you , as a coach, how to become a coach of the olympic games, olympic medalists, it’s just gratitude, because well, it’s

really there was a chance, which somehow may not be 100%, but i managed to use it, so i can only say thank you, and we can tell you, but we are coming to beijing as a different team, everyone is already with us, we are going georgievna and darkovich, me and lyosha tikhonov comments, he’s also nearby for everything training comes, everything is in order, that is, we are practically the whole team , pash and lyusarenko also made it to the olympics, that is , all of us, here are all six, our six are magnificent, we are all sitting together at the olympics and here we still have news, that we won’t compete in the team, we are forced to sit there for 23 days, wait for the free skate, and you continued to train, skate whole skates, that is, we went out just like a normal training session. well, every day is like a competition, and let’s

let the audience in on the secret a little and tell you how you found out about the fact that you will not be skating in a team with the strongest short program of the season, and on the day, the day before the start of the team competition, we have our pair training, we are the ones skating a purely short program, i remember in full, but we have three pairs in end. literally a couple of minutes from the end of training, a car drove out there, while we were standing on the ice, the federation was gathering us, and they announced the lineup for the team competition the next day, and they announced, we so uh, looked at each other, it’s clear, we’ll go get ready to the personal, which means that everything will be fine in the personal, that is, we even

discussed it verbally, but on the one hand we can say that this played into our hands, that we did not participate in teams, because we already had experience in previous team competitions , when you had a great ride, you gave away your emotions, yes, but here it’s the other way around, as if you have a chance in a personal way to throw out everything that you’ve been saving up, everything that you’ve been training, and i think that it’s like as it happened, so it had to be, we prepared for 2 weeks, i think that it was not bad and was very beneficial, skating in the main arena, where we performed and we skated both the free and the short there, and when you have already skated the free skate there 10 times... purely, here you go to the starts and you are the eleventh time, you already know that you will also skate it cleanly, at least someone knew, well then

the free program, life skate, they just showed theirs, as your

fans call it, and i probably did too, day is this a defeat or a victory for you ? i didn’t consider this a defeat, and until until now, well, somehow i was so glad that at the right moment we did everything, and that i have no complaints about myself, and even then there were, it was possible here a little here, on little things, but globally, yes, we did everything... this moment and

i was just happy, well, that’s exactly what i was, but still it’s silver with a golden tint, but it’s silver, but i ’ll tell you what it was for me, i i wasn’t upset, because i had been afraid to dream about it for several hours already in the morning, however, i tried, only the thought came to me, that there might be a medal, i drove it away from myself and said, you’ve already gone out on the ice with them a thousand times, hoping for a medal, without thinking, so i ’m honest, i was afraid to dream, but here it’s straightforward, so for me there was no these are defeats from you, you are such a maximalist. well, you took me off your tongue, of course, gold is better, but the same chinese, the same eternal rivals of yours, if someone else had won, it would have been easier for you, or on the contrary, you lost to those worthy , with whom you walked side by side, these guys are also a very long way

passed, they deserve it too, but they made a mistake. these are like worthy rivals and it’s not a shame to lose to such people, so we have a lot of respect for this couple and they are great masters and do a lot of interesting things that the next generation still needs to learn, well, if we look back, of course, enough about our rivals successful. is it possible, looking back, i will now try to remember approximately everything, two-time european champions, three-time russian champions, twice silver at the world championships, bronze at the championship world, uh, two olympic silver medals, personal and team, and at two different olympics, still a successful career, or

so-so, successful, well, yes. successful, successful, well, if she is, if you have such a successful career, then what’s next, where to go next, what horizons to aim for, there are some plans, grandiose ones, then people ask, write, where are the saffron milk caps, not we will walk around for a while, yes, we are completing our sports activities, no, we are not suspending, we are going straight. we are finishing our career, finishing our competitive career, activity, yes, unfortunately, maybe for joy, we won’t go to competitions anymore and won’t compete, but how did you come to this , how did you make this decision, collectively , or maybe someone said, well,

let’s ride some more, that’s in whose stone, yeah, to someone who loved figure skating since childhood, well, i don’t know, i just mean that zhenya has already gotten married, she maybe wants some kind of family comfort, there, to give birth to a child, to continue the family line klimovykh, and i asked last year that we ride one more year, i i wanted to go skating after the olympics, and it didn’t take long to persuade my wife, that is , i asked my wife, let’s go skating for another year, then we’ll enjoy the competition, without hassle, without any tension at the competition. well, it’s just so big, well, it’s just a thrill to ride, to perform, well, for yourself, yes, she said, yes, what does he lose and what does he gain, and we’ll find out later, no, well, we talked about it, what we are now we receive education, each, that is , of course, now while in shape, until after

sports, some ice shows, and something to do. find yourself in life and do what you like, well then i have one more direct question for you, if zhenya will clearly manage her husband in sochi, then uh, if, for example, a weak coach, maxim tronkov calls you for help, you’ll come, i came to you, as a consultant, yes, as a second coach, for example, so you already have three, it turns out the fourth. max, of course, i’ll come, or, or even replace me, but that’s unlikely, uh, let’s talk a little about my personal life, i know that, well everyone knows that the wife of fedor klimov, an olympic champion and silver medalist of the sochi olympics, is paired with ksenia stolbova,

and is vova morozov single or not? no, no, no, i'm not alone, that's it. okay, maxim, thank you, that is, you don’t need to write your phone number below so that the girls can call such a handsome guy, they are already writing without you, oh, tell me who, what, half of them. she wants it, i do, but she doesn’t want it to be advertised , you know what these grimz are sitting there, they immediately peck, guys, thank you very much for coming, that you told your story, your plans for life, remember that you have a huge army of fans who love you very much, so be sure to ride, please them in performances, do not lower the bar, continue to train before each show and then your longevity will already be in the show , endless, thank you, on my own behalf, thank you for being in my life as athletes, please stay in my life now as friends, because i love you very much, you know it, and we are a family, always remember this , i

i will always come to your aid. hello. this is a psyche podcast, my name is natalya losyeva and today, together with our expert, psychotherapist, clinical psychologist, doctor of medical sciences, sergei kolov, we will deal with the situation of the young, bright, brutal nikita koryakin, who is confused about what he really wants relationships, why don’t they work out for a long time, and where is the freedom that needs to be found? tell your story, there is a problem that it’s difficult for me to trust myself, to give myself into someone’s hands, to do

some kind of full-fledged relationship, because i always feel some kind of restrictions in them, and since i am a creative person, and i need freedom and most often i need it in everything, i recently had a relationship, it was six months ago, and it’s like when everything... such a bouquet period , on the contrary, i get inspired by this, i get interested, but when this has already been going on for two years, like this whole bouquet period, it begins to turn into a routine, and this grounds me a little and my creative impulse in work in in general, some of my ideas, they are a little dulled, and i feel that at the moment i... begins to lack some kind of creative impulse with this, some difficulties begin to be felt, and of course this

affects relationships, and i i’m losing interest in people, i probably just feel that i want more, that is, i want to communicate - with different people, to get attention - from other girls, so that i feel a lot of attention, this is important to me, it energizes me, but once in a relationship i i still consider myself a good person, and it is important for me that my other half feels needed, but when i need the attention of other people, i think there are some problems with this, in the shadow and candle, but in general, what is your request, here when did you come to us, so that we could answer your question, how to feel free in a relationship , because i... am already 26 years old, and i want, the clock is ticking, yes, well, mine is a little slower , so i want to develop myself in relationships,

because when you lead some superficial relationships, you don’t get much deeper emotionally, and since my life is connected with creativity, i ’m sure that there is also something to be gained there, so that later you can give it out to people, nikit, you know that here i am now to yours. .. i heard a lot, a lot, a lot, yes, yeah, you said, trust yourself, i myself, now i’ll think of a dear, beloved, precious one, i can’t do it like this, but to someone, this priceless gift, me, nikita koryakin, 26 years old, photographer, graduate student, bring for long-term use, i also heard that you are getting bored, yes, that is, routine sets in after the bouquet period, as you called it, yeah, routine sets in, and you no longer want anything, it doesn’t make you happy, yes, it doesn’t

inspire you, and the third thing i heard is that attitude can maybe i’m wrong, i’m saying this, then the way i hear it, this is a resource for you to be inspired, for you to be an artist, for you to realize yourself, and the girl in this... where? good question, probably, this should first of all be a muse for me, which i will give her energy, she will give me that is, so that it is a mutual energy exchange, in some kind of... as if our wires are lost, this energy disappears somewhere, and that is, i don’t feel that i want to give something to this person, and even so i don’t want to keep the person next to me so that it’s like i’m playing around, ala and we just parted ways, but i want the person next to me to be happy and give him only positive emotions, but as you know, it doesn’t always work out that way, there’s something i don’t

believe in you, you know? right now i'm listening to you and something doesn’t feel right to me here, you know, it’s as if nikita koryakin is sitting now, yes, an actor is sitting who plays a young man, so enthusiastic, so subtle, who came to us , show yourself, girls, look what i am, don’t count on more, because i will be burdened all the time. yeah, that’s what i thought now, yeah, if i wanted to show myself, i probably would, but i don’t want to talk about my problems , because i came here with the problem to deal with the concept of freedom, because that freedom is, of course, good, but when you feel this freedom, you have too many paths, when there are many paths, you can get lost in something and not reach the point you would like, but tell me what lack of freedom is for you ?

not freedom is when i have to do something that i don’t want, for example, what, for example , i want to think, this is what i like to do, great, too, that’s great, i like cleaning, and, for example, spending time , i want to go somewhere with friends, simply because we have some common interests, but one way or another, i'm meeting a girl there for some other reason, not because they love photography there, yes, i want to meet people with whom the girl will let you go, well, that is, there was no hysteria, there was no scandal, and it wouldn’t happen for sure, the problem is that my conscience is starting to gnaw at me, that i don’t take it, as if i’m not interested in her, there are people with whom i’m more interested, yes, or there, you feel guilty, i very often feel guilty, i think that my empathy is quite normal

position and probably she is for me. allows me to feel it, and often empathy is my enemy and friend, because sometimes i feel too much, and at the same time it seems to me that the person is uncomfortable with it, but sometimes it happens that the person actually doesn’t feel so bad about it, but i just thought of this for myself, and mm further, for example, maybe i want to go there on vacation with my friends, i have both female friends, but at the same time this is always accepted. and if i say friend, this is a real friend, nothing more and more by the way, it’s interesting that i perceive, as it were, my friends, i put them first , for now, because i think it’s logical, why, because a new person comes into your life, you meet there for a year or two, and you have friends, with whom you have been friends for 20 years, 10 years, and they seem to be a priority for me, perhaps there is also some nuance here, why is it difficult for me to build this, so you understand that every year this length of friendship

will increase increase, you know, and the chances that you'll ever meet a girl, by these standards of yours, who can compete with your friends , it will simply be minimized, well, or unless you lose all your friends, listen, an interesting case, although the story at first seemed to me quite banal, sergey, what do we not have here so? nikita, do you have a close, warm relationship with someone , yes, i have a friend, with whom we have been friends for 20 years, from the line... first class, and i can safely call this my sister, with whom we have been a lot spend time together in general i have an understanding of what deep relationships are, but unfortunately not with the second half yet, it doesn’t work out with the second half , that is, you know how to do it, but something yes, because i feel when i choose a partner that this is from the category, it’s like i ’m slandering

something, and if i chose a person, then that’s it, he’s mine, i, her, everything, and that is, for me this is some very, very important step, which i don’t know what needs to happen for me to overcome and this one said , yes, that’s it, i’m ready, so i’ll swear on blood, figuratively speaking, look, it turns out that he seems to be giving you only two policies, yes, so he says, i’m with her, and i don’t have the right to look either left or right, even if this is my childhood friend, he sentences himself to this, then he doesn’t. from the same self-judgment, self-righteous, one begins to suffer, it turns out, nikit, you seem to have two parts of the psyche, one wants some kind of close, long-term, deep. relationships, and the other wants freedom, and if i understand correctly, you understand freedom as the desire to fulfill all your desires, that’s what you want, then you do, yeah, and if there are any restrictions, and this applies to this one stories about desires and freedom, only

relationships with girls or in life in general? in life in general, and it’s very difficult to control me in terms of this, because... as soon as i feel a lack of freedom, i lose interest; you even know, some kind of indifference towards this person wakes up when they try to limit me in something , and i immediately feel discomfort, there’s some kind of energy, it kind of sinks and is lost , and i immediately feel somehow uncomfortable and hard , in the feeling of not being free to live, as you imagine, because there’s another person and a girl? anyone, she has her own desires, her own ideas about freedom, i understand this perfectly well, the idea of ​​a relationship is collapsing in my head, because they automatically make me seem like i’m no longer happy, because the first tick here doesn’t

work we have. nikita, it’s true, any relationship is a certain limitation, and you understand how you pay for such freedom, how do you feel... loneliness and isolation, the problem is that i never feel lonely, that is, because there is always someone who compensates for this, since i often go filming, it’s a lot of acquaintances, a lot of people around me, also then, if you want to tell something, share something, there are your close friends who compensate for this, but why do you need a relationship then with a girl, why, friend, you have a close need, a warm relationship, as for well, as for a relationship, intimate relationship, for example, he is a young man, and this is also an important part of our life, probably, just like that, you know, promiscuity study, somewhere, uh, in any bar, he doesn’t want to, yes, because the moment comes when you want to go to bed, not alone, yes, with someone, to feel that

warmth from a person, but the problems are in some kind of deep relationship, that i want this, but something is pricking, that’s what is pricking, i want to take it apart and how... somehow, like we already said, the limitation of the girl’s desire is pricking, yeah, because she has her own desires, for you this is a limitation, and you seem to you can't stand the desire of the opposite side, yes, but don't under any circumstances think that i'm everyone there desire, i’m not ready to put up with it, if i understand that somewhere i have to give in, yes, i understand that, but there is some point of no return, when it’s like... that’s it, the pot is boiling and i can’t to give in further, that’s it, i want freedom and i need to rest, that is, i had a relationship for 2 years, eh, well, again, we call it 2 years, but at the same time we had some pauses, why, because i i just needed

to rest, and i gained strength and was like, hi, how are you, let's try again, and sincerely i believe that it will work out, then we go, the relationship begins. cyclically in a circle that i need rest, i get there, go somewhere to rest, take a break from the person, then i start to get bored, because i still feel love for this person, that is, i can’t say, it’s like... then otherwise, but love is what for you, for me love is when , no matter what, you think about this person and - in other people next to you you can see this person and desire him in any case, there is some kind of story togo, that you both want to be together, but something separates you, she still doesn’t lose this feeling of love inside for this person, well , that is, love is a feeling, yes, this is how i am with my feelings, yes i worry, there

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wednesday on the first . this is a psychic podcast, my name is natalya losyeva and together with doctor of medical sciences, psychotherapist sergei kolov, we are solving the difficult situation of our hero nikita koryakin. have you ever had pets? mine personally, no there was some kind of flower? there are three flowers at home, but why do you like them? crazy, i look after them, you have no idea how i take care of them, but please tell me a little more in detail, i really wanted indoor plants, because i believe that they bring comfort to the house, and i like to create comfort at home, and when i started the first plant, i realized that it needed a companion, i got more and they thought about how this plant feels, yes, that is, i constantly water it every day, because watering for me is a stress reliever, uh-huh, loosen the soil in this plant, i have conveniences there, i know how much is needed , when it’s there, and what do you feel when you

do it, you loosened it there, added fertilizer, and after 3 days new leaves appeared, i feel some kind of satisfaction, as i see my work, and i see the result, and when you see the result , you understand, great, that means i did everything right, that we have achieved a new leaf in this case, well, you are happy, that’s it suddenly you realize that you seemed to be doing all this for yourself, yes, but it won’t change in any way your life, but when you see the results of your labors, your investments, your lack of freedom, you can’t just leave for a week without agreeing that someone will water them, right, yes, this is not freedom, by the way, this terrible lack of freedom, and you enjoy it, it’s interesting, but the flowers are standing still and waiting for me, with people, unfortunately, this is impossible, they will wither if you don’t take care of them, or they will have midges, maybe? i just didn’t love, well, there are doubts, yes, from a scientific point of view,

love is a little different, there, let’s say, if to refer to frome, he clearly describes different types of love, not only for a woman, not erotic, for god, for children, for mothers, there are clear scientific criteria, let's say, yes, that erich frome is one of the followers of the school of psychoanalysis, who wrote a lot about love and emotions from a scientific point of view, art is work for everyone, the art of love and we won’t eat there... now we’ll list everything, but including, caring for another, when a person loves, he thinks about the object of his love, to him, this is not an obligation, he just wants it to give a person something about him, this is one of the criteria, if there is no such need , well, there are still some criteria, then there is doubt, even if a person says that he loves, well, from a scientific point of view, there are already questions and we can doubt it, yeah. that is