[000:00:00;00] to refer, he clearly describes different types of love, not only for a woman, not erotic, but for god, for children, for mother, there are clear scientific criteria, let's say yes, that erich from is one of the followers of the school of psychoanalysis, who is very i wrote a lot about love and about emotions from a scientific point of view, everyone rega the art of work, the art of love, there is, we will not list everything now, but including, here is caring for another, when a person loves, he thinks about the object of his love , it’s not his duty, he just wants to give this person something about him, this is one of the criteria, if there is no such need, well, there are also some criteria, then there is doubt, even if the person says that he loves, well, from a scientific point of view, here there are already questions and we can doubt, yeah, that is, it turns out that if i don’t want to give something to a person, then most likely i don’t love him, most likely you

will... use it, my dear, but who said that i don’t give anything to a person, because you, i don’t remember this, then i made a mistake and i would like to say that it is already possible to give a person not only some financial needs , yes, although in this regard there were no problems with this either, that is, i really love making people happy, and it brings me wild pleasure, for example, giving gifts and to choose, to make some surprises, it brings me great pleasure , but what is important is that it is important for me to see a bright emotion, that is , when i see that a person is very happy, then this is some important moment for me, to see emotions and give a lot of everything, everything, you want even more, more, more, then there is a story about you again, yes, you give something, you need to see that the person is very happy about this, yes, he expresses emotions, your dafabines begin to be released and all sorts

of other neurotransmitters that... nikita, you would like more to find out how you build relationships, of course, but don’t you think that our relationship here in our company has turned into an argument, natalya says something, i sometimes say something, and you seem to be opposing us, what do you think about this topic, well, there is one. okay, how about you? tend to argue, is this how you build relationships? i like to prove my point of view, my mother always doesn’t like this trait of mine that i will always push with arguments until the person says, i have nothing to say here, but it seems to me that this is how

the argument is built, that you share with your own arguments, that there are also norms, but at the same time, i don’t think it’s worth arguing when you simply state your arguments in a calm tone, that this is somehow unconstructive, and what would you like to get as a result of an argument with us? in a dispute, i i would like to understand that somewhere i am wrong, so that i can cover up this gestalt. the fact that it turns out, yes, in some near future i will be able to have a relationship , here is natalia’s metaphor, my references to authorities , well, for me, at least, and as i understand it, for you these are not arguments, they did not convince you , not, of course, an argument, but the question is that i can understand all this, yes, but feel it to understand, well, as i say, a famous philosopher, this is

a metaphor, yes, great, but how can i. three feel it and put it into practice, when in some extent, i stop feeling it, it’s just as if these are not thoughts, but feelings, sergey, and maybe in general there are people who are not given this gift - such a giving muscle, such love, and maybe here nikita simply suffers from the fact that he doesn’t fit into some social stereotype, and thinks, well, i’m somehow not like that, i don’t have... relationships, girls bore me, in general there can be such people, nevertheless, nikita described himself as an empathetic person and who is very much, gives, however, he loses interest, i understood everything correctly , yes, then i will again return to where we started, the limitations, which are the desire of another, uh, person, and this seems to

be due to the fact that you lose interest. yes, while you were talking, i thought that perhaps this empathy for everyone, and then in a relationship i want to somehow compensate for this by saying that, well, it’s time. and perhaps i was looking for this corner, when i don’t have to think about others for a long time, that is, because it’s true - in my work, it’s very an important part, because if you don’t feel the person in the frame, you won’t get some beautiful picture from this, that is, you constantly take this resource from yourself, because you constantly need, you present your relationship to us, we, of course, look at the situation through your eyes, we can think about how you imagine your girlfriend, well, at least the one with whom you had a relationship for 2 years , imagine, yeah, everything we know about her, how do you introduce her to us, she’s such a rather unpleasant type, she shows only

your desires, it’s about you, well, in general, not cares, apparently she doesn’t care about you very much either - and she loves you, and the way you introduced her to us, i don’t even want to take you into the company with you, yes, i don’t want to take you from her. well, this is already in context, yes, apparently she’s kind of obsessive, you need her, maybe she jokes somehow awkwardly in front of your friends, you, well , you have to be embarrassed by her, and you presented us with such an image of a rather unpleasant person, i don’t agree that i tried to give some kind of image, because it absolutely does not coincide with reality, i feel that they love me more. and i'm in the position of someone who allows you to love, it’s about the feeling that i said that he doesn’t love, but an unpleasant person, no, is very pleasant, and

i’m probably more comfortable with this person than anyone else when we’re alone, but when we’re not for a long time, so i’m interested in this person, but we... we have completely different interests, that is, we are more likely to be fixated more on our relationships than on some of our common hobbies, interests, etc. further, what do you mean by sorting out the relationship, here’s how you think, let’s talk about why you and i tire each other out, you keep saying this all the time, saying it, by the way, it’s useful, but if in the world we often talk about this, because i also think it’s useful, but of course it’s like that difficult stage. it’s just that this is the center of your communication and clarification of relationships, how to treat a friend at this moment, we are very interested in this dialogue, both of them are very interested together, and when it becomes

something, well, it’s good for us to go somewhere together, watch a movie together at home, eat a delicious meal, and i feel maximum comfort next to this person, and this is my kind of safety zone, that is, such an island where everything is good, plus or minus, but then you feel... with cooness from this is how to combine you want some kind of passion and surprise, and high emotions , sergey, i’m a little confused, and you expect this from a girl, that she should somehow create these emotions for you, no, it seems to me, this should be something, it should charge me, something for me to do, let’s say some actions, the universe, who will charge you, the person next to you, well, this is from her, what is your expectation from her, that she will somehow be with you, that this is a common contact, yes it will be, but it somehow gets lost on us. this is a psychic podcast, my name is natalya losyeva and together with

doctor of medical sciences, psychotherapist sergei kolov, we are solving the difficult situation of our hero nikita koryakin. i will return again to the understanding of freedom and your desires, you never thought, here. perspective that you are a slave to your desires, and not a free person, okay, ok, yes, it’s interesting, i’m a slave to my desires, but well, i definitely need to think about this topic, because i don’t feel like i’m being controlled, but my desires, that is, i can approximately, which doesn’t concern relationships, again, everything that concerns another part of life, it suits me very much and i feel like a very happy person, but there are times when i feel so sad. evenings, moments when you realize that something in life is missing, you attach great importance to the development of yourself as a person, yes, well, i don’t know what your concept of personality and personality development is, but

science believes that development is overcoming something within oneself, including one’s desires, including, i can also refer to many authors, well, take my word for it, this is overcoming one’s own... including , for this story for you, i deliberately asked some questions before this. it is considered that if you do not have something within yourself... your internal limitations, and some external ones, and do not somehow adapt to them, your personality begins to degrade , yeah, this also applies to relationships, relationships with yourself, but this also applies to relationships with any person, including a girl, if you don’t make any effort, everything is only according to your desire, yeah, then... the development of relationships

should not happen, however, like individuals, yes, but in in any case, if we are talking about relationships, yes, i agree here that i am rather looking for some position that is convenient for me, so that i don’t have to change much, think about something, yes, okay, but there is and the other side, me, this is my profession, where i have to change a lot, very, so how do i freelance, work and you are always responsible. only you, you don’t have a boss , you always have to manage your life, you have to agree on shooting, communicate with people, that is, it’s a rather uncomfortable life in this case, natalia you want to say, there’s a different nikita, the relationship becomes kind of... then another, that is, there is one story, but here it is completely, who only wants his desires to be satisfied, nikita, i have an association when a person wants, here

i want. i want something, it doesn’t seem like it, that’s what this is how children behave, then if this hypothesis can be true, that i am just what i kind of want, then you are looking for, in a relationship , not partnership stories, you are looking for your mother, but the girl doesn’t know about it, she thinks that we have a man, well, look how personable you are, really. i saw and notalia, well, it’s just a match, and in my youth we had it on you, we called it bait , that is, the girls will be interested in exhibiting there just once, and then the friends will get it, and then what kind of company is there, but she thinks , she's wow, who is he going to talk to now, but it turns out, well, i won't call you, babies are babies and it's like you start to get offended, but she has no idea, maybe i even... and i'm especially

i’m not hiding it, in fact, that is, i’m a super kind, gentle person, and i wo n’t be very masculine in relationships, this, i don’t consider this some kind of disadvantage for myself, and i’m probably even proud of it somewhere, but the problem is that yes there is some kind of appearance, most likely at the beginning of a relationship people expect something different from me, and even at some point i i think i should shave off this beard, because my appearance, in my case, is true... that is, i don’t feel like some kind of giant who will understand everything, that is, me, but how do you react if a person is enchanted you, he may be disappointed in you, that he is an ops, he buys it, and then it turns out that this is not at all how you react to disappointment, i don’t remember this, to be honest, that is, the girl continues to be deceived, probably, right? fact, what is your version that he begins

to lose interest in her and leave them so that they they weren’t disappointed with him, it’s the fear that when the rapprochement happens, she’ll look and say, oh yes, i thought he, oh, and he, and this could be an underlying fear, nikit, maybe it ’s very scary that she’ll be disappointed, then your defense will throw it first, well, in any case, as if this is the understanding of y. i don’t feel it in myself, because one way or another, kindness does not mean softness, yes , don’t hit everyone in the face, i’m sorry, this does not mean that you are a weakling, yes, i just find other ways, i’ll comment on what seems to be happening now , it seems that it’s not just an argument, but you you are already making excuses to me, there is such a thing, i hear some thought of yours that does not coincide with reality in my understanding, and in this case i need to

tell you what you are wrong about. sergei very precisely reformulates what you are saying, because you are the one who is saying that i really, well, i want someone like this, that i give all my best to everyone, i want them to take care of me, i am so defenseless, fragile and so vulnerable in these, this is how we heard it, maybe there is a question of some kind of your self-presentation, really or in some kind of conflict, sergey, what if they were unique. started a relationship with a girl who is older than him, who would be similar, maybe to his mother, yes, you are probably in a very warm relationship with your mother and yours, i think, right? that's right, i think it's not the age of the girl or woman. it all depends on her character, she may be younger than him, but if she has strong inner maternal needs, that is , to take care, entertain, take her to clubs,

organize a holiday, what else are mothers out there? they do it, they entertain it so that her child will be interested, then this has nothing to do with it, and it may not be a holiday, but a trip somewhere, i don’t know, by the sea, for example, dear, we have a surprise, yes, well, so what? as an option, and you think we’ve come to what - you didn’t argue with us the first time, and didn’t say, but maybe the girl is just not the same, i’ve been thinking for a long time, maybe it’s a habit, but no matter how we don’t see each other for six months, that’s all equally ours, when we met, everything is the same inside, that the desire to be with this person, well, that is, it’s still not so are you bored with her? you meet for six months and your heart starts beating, right? yes, yes, next to her there is a seething inside, that is, it has not gone away for 2 years and no matter how many times we have separated, it is all the time, all the time this feeling overtakes me, there is an erotic

male part, there is another, it is different you can call it a child’s room, it’s kind of infantile with its own needs, it looks like they’re in conflict inside you and you can’t deal with them, ball to the right, ball to the left, and maybe this is one of the main problems, in a smart word, this this is called splitting of the psyche, this is a defense mechanism, what to do? there are technologies that should lead, well, to integration, yeah, we are all , we are dual by nature and the world is dual, we live in it, there is definitely nothing good, nothing bad, you can look at it this way, you can look at it this way, but usually. if you believe philosophy, opposite parts fight in their unity and develop a person, but they force you to remain stuck in one place, you have no relationship. sergey, please tell me, this work is exceptional

for nikita, it doesn’t matter what kind of woman it is, whether this woman or another, or what is called family or partner, joint therapy, i would recommend first individually, to understand yourself and your own, for example , directly opposite tendencies, one wants closeness, the other wants freedom and so that everything will be as i want, and so that my mother does not show any of her desires, but this and that part is you, they are both really important, but it is important to understand and integrate them , manage them, yeah, with this i really agree, because i feel in myself, maybe even some three sides, yes, parental, something in me definitely has some needs, i have something serious too, and there is also this nikita , ala, a student party-goer, for whom it is important to feel that you are still young, everything is still

ahead, that’s what i thought, that when i enter into a serious relationship, it’s as if i have ended my such a bright, cheerful life . it’s like these three aspects, they probably need to be somehow mixed into one lump and made friends. well, friends, here we see such a complex composite nikita, who is a little confused not in relationships, but for now, or already in himself, i hope that something has become clearer to you, where lies the plane of your real freedom, where you need to row, yes, like a mushroom, very it was interesting, thank you, it was a psyche podcast, and we, together with our expert, clinical psychologist, doctor of medical sciences, sergei kolov, examined the situation of nikita koryakin, who, at 26 years old, is trying to understand what he really

wants from a relationship with a girl . on air first. channel podcast everyone wants to fly and i, leonid yakubovich, before introducing you to our guest , i want to warn you that we will not fly anywhere today, we will talk about emergency situations that ended, thank god safely, and before i repeat, introduce us our guest, i want to give an example of several such emergency situations , which are written about a lot, interpreted differently by people who understand absolutely nothing about it, create a feeling as if everything is unfavorable for our aviation, this is not so, here are examples, over the past 60 years, there have been approximately 15 such emergency situations in civil aviation, which i repeat, ended successfully thanks to the great ability of the pilots to control the aircraft.

february 24, 1962. all four engines of the il-18b failed over cyprus. the plane made an emergency landing without landing gear extended, not far from pathos, and none of the 100 people were injured. on august 21, 1963, during takeoff from stalin, the uliner's front landing gear jammed. an emergency landing due to... the weather in tallinn was impossible due to... fog and the pilots decided to land the plane not in vnukovo moscow, but in pulkovo leningrad. when running out of fuel over the city , one of the engines stopped, and then the second engine stopped. co- pilot vasily chechenev, who previously served in naval aviation, successfully splashed down the plane in the neva waters, none of the 405 passengers and seven crew members were injured. on april 11, 197 , a tu-154b passenger aircraft en route from tashken to krasnoyarsk experienced

an engine failure at echelon, the pic made a decision in the planning mode to land at the nearest airport, the landing took place at night in poor visibility conditions with the runway lighting completely turned off. the plane successfully completed its landing, however, it rolled off the runway, all 164 passengers and members. the crew were not injured. on july 12, 2000, the airbus 30 airliner, after takeoff from chania to island crete, was unable to remove the landing gear due to a malfunction. instead of going over, the crew decides to send the plane to vienna, but the pilots incorrectly calculated the increasing fuel consumption, 22 km from vienna the fuel has run out. in glider mode, the pilots were able to dive almost to the runway with 150 people on board, no one was injured. on august 24 , 2001, an airbus passenger plane was flying transatlantic from

toronto to lisbon when all engines stopped over the atlantic due to a fuel leak. there were 306 people on board, but the pilots successfully landed the aircraft in the ozores . on january 14, 2002, liiners 204, en route from frankfurt to mainey to omsk, was already preparing for landing at while descending at an altitude of 100, the plane experienced a failure of two engines. the crew managed to successfully glide onto the runway, and none of the 1,005 people on board were injured. there have been approximately 15 such cases over the past 60 years. and now i want to introduce you to a person who experienced such an emergency situation. this is a first class pilot, damir yasupov, a hero of russia , who once, not quite recently, successfully landed a plane on a field, that’s right, yes, that’s right, hello, tell me, what i read, now

there are such emergency situations in the simulators , the periodic training program for flight crews includes practicing actions in case of various failures, as a rule, this is a fire engine, engine failure, failure of various aircraft systems, landing approaches in various weather conditions, aborted takeoff, emergency descent, and so on, and of course there is a scenario in the simulator preparation, this is the failure of both engines, how many times a year do regular pilots go through the simulator, every six months - we have a scheduled simulator, it’s 2 days for 4 hours we practice these actions on the simulator. so, now let's dispel all gossip rumors, thank god, the check is over, everything went fine, you fly out, yes, everything is fine. so, what happened step by step, you took off to we were operating a regular flight from zhukovsky simferopol, there was an early departure, 6:15 according to the local time schedule, august 15, the middle. we had an a321 aircraft, a configuration of 220 seats, that is, taking into account that there were children in our arms, in the end we had 226 passengers, a full

load and seven crew members, a full load and almost full refueling, more we had 16 tons of fuel on board, you read a prayer before launch, read a prayer before launch, requested permission to tow back, sorry, i have to explain to our tv viewers, prayer is not exactly what you think, it’s a list... recommended actions that the crew must perform several times before takeoff, before starting the engine, before taxiing, before entering the runway, at the start before takeoff, after clearance for departure, that’s right, absolutely right, it’s called a map control checks, so you read this, you did not receive any negative information, yes, everything went as normal, the engines started. we checked all the systems, everything was working normally, we requested permission to taxi to the preliminary start

line, the dispatcher warned us, in a standard phrase, that a separate flight was being observed. birds in the area of ​​the airfield, well, we looked around , we didn’t seem to see them, then, when we were already taxiing to the runway itself, we saw a large bird that took off before our eyes, well, it was scared by the sound of the engines the plane took off, and then we taxied to the executive start, onto the runway, read the control check map and were ready for takeoff, asked for permission to take off from the dispatcher, and so you took off, but i piloted, the co-pilot controlled the radio. this is how we distributed our responsibilities, what kind of flying hours do you have? at that time i had about 400 hours, yeah, how many years did you sit in the left cup, in the left seat i had, there were about 800 hours, that is exactly a year, yeah, yeah, as a commander, they took off normally, the most interesting thing , a moment passed - take-off and initial lift-off, that is, after we received permission to take off, gave the engines a nominal mode, began

the take-off run, at the end of the take-off run, already upon reaching the decision speed, if we convert to kilometers per hour, then somewhere around 310-320 km/ h we had take-off speed, the moment of take-off, that is, we passed the line, which means we began to raise the front strut, at that moment we saw that a large strut began to take off from the left edge of the runway, cross our take-off course and began to fly away somewhere to the side , they began to behave somehow inappropriately, that is, to look for a course towards us, that is, we gained somewhere around 3-4 m in height and then crashed into this large flock of seagulls, that is, it was like a cloud, since the height was the plane’s low altitude, some maneuvers, rolls to the left, right, or sharply blowing up the plane was dangerous, because it was possible to hit either the wings, the wing, or the rear part of the fuselage, so they performed

a normal takeoff with the recommended one. angular velocity of raising the front pillar and well visually, of course, we thought that we would fly above this flock of seagulls, because the impact was felt? yes, there was a collision, numerous impacts were heard, a bird, a fuselage, wings, uh-huh, ah, and of course, from the sound of the engine, we realized that the birds had hit the engine, that is, there was this characteristic drop in revolutions, a drop in the left revolution into the left engine there were about three. birds, about two birds to the right, that is, there are blows, an on-board computer alarm and a sound signal , this is a drop in revolutions, and so it happened the bird strike itself, both engines stopped? and our left engine went to idle speed, and not only did we get a false indication at idle , such that the reverse valves of the left engine came out, that is, one of the faults broke the sensor, which monitors the state

of the valve, we got this indication, that is, the left engine came out, came out the other way around... low throttle, we didn’t notice a drop in revolutions in the right engine, it was insignificant, in this position we continued our takeoff, since the hit the birds were very unexpected, then at the very beginning of takeoff we skipped the usual procedure for retracting the landing gear and began the initial climb, with the landing gear extended, that is, since we have one engine, the airbus has two engines. which are located under the wings, then we had a slip, the left engine failed, the right one was still pulling , a slip appeared on the right half-wing, that is, the plane began to turn, and eliminated the slip, pressed the pedal, pressed the pedal without moving, turned on the autopilot and reported to the dispatcher this situation was reported

to the dispatcher about an engine failure, although the situation, of course, is actually non-standard, the fact is that the reverse output at this stage of the flight of such a failure... in principle, there should be no action on this failure at this stage , there is simply no action, they worked, in fact in fact, the reverse flaps did not come out, they remained in the closed position, this is, let’s say, a design feature so that crews do not accidentally turn on the reverse in flight, that is, there are limit switches that unclench after compressing the struts on the ground, that is, in flight it is impossible to turn on the reverse, but nevertheless, we are the crew, we believe there that the on-board computer is showing us, and it showed us exactly the reverse, turning on the reverse, but we reported to the dispatcher, and he said: “okay, what is your decision, we said that we will turn around and perform an approach with a reverse course. in principle, this situation, it is not catastrophic, not an emergency, it is not a normal situation, we work it out on the simulator, namely engine failure, that is, all

aircraft are certified, they will not have a further fate. if they won't be able to fly on one engine, that is, what is it, that is, if one engine fails, the plane can calmly gain a safe altitude, and perform a holding area, so that the crew has time to prepare an approach with one engine, and, if necessary, go around , that is, the planes are all designed for this, so there was no strong concern, of course , it’s unpleasant that the engine, i heard a recording of your negotiations, a calm voice, no panic, nothing happened, yes, at the first stage, of course, we planned to return, but then we realized that the plane had stopped gaining altitude, went into horizontal flight, and then... and went into descent, that is, what was the altitude? the maximum altitude that we took in that flight was about 100 m altitude, that is, if the entire flight lasted us 93 seconds, then we gained somewhere around 20 seconds, we gained

these 100 m. the rest of the time, more than one minute, we walked with a smooth descent, the plane went into descent, began to descend, well , the usual reaction of any pilot is to survive as much as possible from what he has, that is moved the levers forward all the way, but since the right engine was also hit by birds, they damaged the blades, some blades were broken there, then a surge appeared, that is , the plane began to twitch, just like that, it began to fly in jerks, that is, on the right side of the right engine these floating revolutions began, then increasing , then decreasing, at that moment you reported to the seniors, on that flight we did not have time to contact the flight attendants, that is, they were also in the dark, like the passengers, because there was no time, that is we fought in order to... the first task was to get out of this situation , that is, to maintain altitude, but, but you yourself understand, engine failure, loss of traction and, speed, altitude, we were unable to maintain, because

these are the situations there were, and as it is written in the report, the plane was in conditions that were not certified during testing, that is, the plane was definitely not tested for this, then look for a site, since raminskaya airport is a flight testing institute within a large radius of about 10 km just fields, this is what helped us, they removed the landing gear before landing, literally there in about seven to 10 seconds - because, firstly, this is resistance, and secondly, the field is unfamiliar and unprepared, it was possible to bury gifts , but what was happening in the cockpit and when we realized that the plane was descending, it would not be possible to reverse this situation, i was in such a state that i couldn’t believe that this... was happening to me, so i can say for myself that oh well, it can’t be, that is, you understand that the plane is decreasing, here is the field, here

i had the thought that now it would be very unpleasant for the passengers who were flying on vacation, there at sea, with their families, at that moment it seemed unpleasant, but i didn’t have any thoughts that this was the end, that we were about to crash, i didn’t have such thoughts, that is, there was hope that we would now carefully land in the field with a successful outcome. a charming person and beloved by all generations , frekenbock, a housewife who challenged everyday life and herself, fantastic, next

level on friday, on the first. hot ice. live broadcasts on weekends first, love figure skating, appreciate figure skating, adore figure skating. so, we continue on the air of the first channel podcast: everyone wants to fly, today i’m just an attentive pilot, our guest is the hero of russia, damir yasupov. who landed the plane in a field, that is, made an abnormal landing, made the decision himself or did he tell the other person

to land? made the decision, but did not voice it, because it is already clear that the plane is no longer flying anywhere, and some options for returning to the departure airport are simply already they were reckless, at low speed you could just fall off during a roll, that ’s all. it was as simple as they teach in school, landing in front of you, yeah, that is, without any maneuvers, that is, especially since you know, during maneuvers the lift drops, the speed can drop, that is, the plane can just... in the curtains it simply cannot be removed, and without the chassis, thank god, without the chassis , yes, the chassis were in the process of cleaning, and now i believe that this is precisely the intermediate position of the chassis, that is, they are locked in our the retracted position did not rise, that is, they were almost retracted, and this half-retracted position, it seems to me, they somehow even softened it a little for us, that is, we did not sit on the engines themselves, this is the fate of the engine - the rear part of the fuselage, that is, like this when we landed, there was a hard impact, of course , the length of this, well... you can call it that run was about 300

m, that is, there was a sharp braking, the passengers and crew experienced overloads, if , for example, an airplane with such a mass, landing takes a normal runway about one and a half kilometers, the length of the run, and in normal mode, released by the chassis, here 300 m, imagine how short it was, how it was on the belts, that is, the belts saved us, the second one did not warn the passenger, he also did not warn, that is he looked, that is , everything happened very quickly, that is, it was very like this, you know, from takeoff to landing, how much time passed? 93 seconds, everything very quickly, they sat down, that’s it, moved away , moved away for a moment, that is, it was very noisy during the flight, yes, after landing, when the plane stopped, the engines were turned off, there was silence, literally 5-10 seconds,

just such deathly silence. and after that we heard that women in the cabin began to scream, some sounds, screams , that was it, and this brought us to our senses a little, we, of course, did certain procedures, the dispatcher called us, the dispatcher called us, who lost us on our radar or even visually, that is, when we reported, talked to the dispatcher, we had the last communication session, that we were asking for a reverse approach, and he told us allowed. and then he asked, middle 178, this is our call sign, report your situation , we said that we landed in a field behind the runway, we are asking for emergency services, rescue services, he answered him, you know what he says, okay, upon arrival we will provide, that is, he really lost us, i say that we have already landed, we have already completed the landing, and during the period of radio communication, the senior conductor dmitry runs up to us and says, yes, peace evacuation, i say, and thank god. that inspectors

are also trained on their simulators literally a minute and a half, that is, they opened the doors, released inflatable slides, evacuated passengers through eight doors, four on the left, four on the right, for a minute and a half he runs in, says yes, the world has all been evacuated, i say, themselves, he says, yes to his, then they themselves did not have to carry anyone away, it was some kind of second relief that the people were all alive and well and were able to leave the plane on their own, there was no panic, there was no panic, for this, too, thanks to the passengers for leading with dignity, and our bovodniks too we got our bearings, they said that everyone should leave all their hand luggage on the plane, that is, the very first thing is to save lives, that is, so that people quickly evacuate, yeah , in fact, this day was generally a day of luck, a day of a miracle, because we were able to jump a ditch, a vegetation channel, 10 m wide, and at the moment of the first landing, this platform , it was higher, was located than the moment of the second landing, that is, we jumped, jumped over several times, still he jumped,

yes, jumped up and stopped, well, thank you god, there was no fire, there was no fire, and there was a little smoke to the right in the engines, because the pipelines had collapsed, there was some smoke, but fortunately there was no fire, then the fire services arrived and they foamed it all up so that it wouldn’t happen like full tanks, yes, full tanks , well, happy is your god, thank god, it’s just not, but the most amazing thing is that in... there was no panic, because the passengers didn’t know what was happening, yes, the passengers didn’t know, and then i talked to them, and i looked at the video, the birds flashed by second, that is, at such a speed, this flock of seagulls, in half a second, it flew over the left on the right wing, that is, no one noticed them, this claps that were there were also not heard, but people heard what this vibration started, the lights blinking, because we have power supply.

the aircraft's lighting was powered by the operation of the engines, the engines worked unstably and the lights were blinking in the cabin, there was this shaking, who did it at the illumination, they saw these wisps of smoke, and the surge, this flame escaped, some saw it, but since the plane was long, 45 m, uh, everyone behaved differently, that is, some saw, some didn’t, some were already asleep, it was still a morning flight, some... then he put on his slippers, and someone listened, got scared, took his hand, someone prayed, someone didn’t understand anything at all, but most people understood that something was wrong, that’s the moment of impact, of course, oh the earth, it was a big surprise for everyone, even for our flight attendants, who didn’t know about it, and... and such a case, you know, here’s the sun of the rows of corn, yes, we have the association that corn, everything, how this phrase was born, if you want, i can tell you when the landing took place, it was early morning, the sun had just risen, just imagine, a field of

corn, height 3 m, the plane is standing, that’s it, there’s nothing else, when passengers, and were evacuated from the plane, as i say, poured out of the plane, that's all, then - they began to get a little lost, there were family people, there through different, different doors, children, adults, they started shouting there, masha, pasha, dad, mom, it was all, of course, they started to get lost, uh, they didn’t know where to go, they didn’t know where to go, because it was high, now you can even see it, the corn is high, you can’t see at all where the road is, where what is, and dmitry, dmitry evliysky, the senior bol guide, gave directions through the open door, they don’t say where, where , he says, go to the sun, to the right in a fraction of the rows of corn, that is , the only thing that the passengers saw was the sun. corn, that’s how this phrase was born, and he oriented them, they went on the road, how long the debriefing of all this lasted then, almost immediately we were given explanations, an investigation was ordered, the preliminary report was ready somewhere in about - literally a month , the final report was also ready about

two years later, but published later, simply because there were a lot of examinations and there was a report of about 300 pages he came out, well, it was clear, the reason was clear, it was immediately probable, because from the destruction of the engine it was clear what had happened, of course, here and i would also like to say, the protection of the arbas, and of course, there was this information, yes that at the reverse output, yes, for example, there here, which was also a little misleading, but in principle the protection at the angles of attack worked, that is, it did not allow the plane to stall, that is, it maintained the minimum speed that was required to continue the flight, so that the plane simply did not stall. that is, we flew at this minimum speed, that is, here i would also like to say words of support for the aircraft , and this is good weather, visually, imagine, if there was fog, for example, yes, poor visibility, then it would be much more difficult, side wind, side wind, well

the field itself, so that the field was below us, no buildings there, that is, this was also lucky, well, of course, glory to the almighty, just like that, well , we sat at the helm, this also cannot be removed, that is, after how many years, i returned to...flight a lot, that is - when it happened, yes , it’s still like that - it was very hard, it was hard, that’s when it happened, that’s the first day, then the first 3 days there i didn’t sleep well and fortunately i didn’t have dreams, but i constantly returned to that flight so that i could change what actions, maybe i would have changed, and even after four years, if i went back, i wouldn’t change any of my actions, that is , i would leave everything as it is, because like the butterfly effect, you change one thing, but even some small roll or tumble there , you pressed the pedal a little, that is, it was all perfect so that you see, the plane stood, that is, it is practically whole, that is, the most important thing is the whole plane and all the passengers are alive, this once again speaks

of how important this muscle memory is, to what extent has practicing over all these years made it possible to almost reflexively control the car, because everything happened instantly, you weren’t aware of what you were doing? arms and legs walked on their own, right? yes, these movements were already on a subconscious level, that is, everything that was laid down on the simulator was in muscle memory, as you say, yes, this muscle memory had already worked, i called home, and of course i called, but not with my phone, i took the phone from georgiy, the co -pilot, because my phones are both scattered all over the cabin, i couldn’t find them, although they say that the landing should be soft on the corn, but nevertheless , the overload was so significant, all the loose objects, they were just here, my phone, they were lying here right next to me in pocket, i was then somehow able to find them, called my wife and said that now they will show it on tv, perhaps the most important thing is not to worry, we sat in a field, everyone is alive and well, the main first phrase was so that she does not worry,