[000:00:00;00] one of the richest people in russia, according to the decree on free farmers, it means that a peasant comes to him, a capitalist peasant, who himself already has a business, as we would say now, who is wealthy, plumps at his feet there, i don’t remember how many there are 10,000 rubles, a gigantic sum at that time, let the priest go free, he says, i don’t need your money, i have a reception, you give me an oyster in the winter, deliver it, if you’re so cunning, you want freedom, on carts, where they were transported in heated barrels overall it's wonderful exchange such bartar freedom on an oyster is brilliant in russia there are only two classes slaves of the sovereign autocrat and slaves of farmers , only beggars and philosophers can be free in russia this

is spoken i want one more detail here serf russia is primarily central russia, because speaking of alexander i, we were already poland, there was finland, there were, that is, the core of serfdom is central russia, in the west and in the asian, so to speak, additions to russia and even some national ones, so say, there are siberian places, so when we come here. we just need a note, when we say serf russia , we still need to imagine this geography, after all, alexander ii went for an experiment, he abolished serfdom in the baltic provinces, iceland or fland, he abolished it, and many then hoped, that he canceled this rehearsal, and then there will be cancellation in russia, yes, but no, yes, but no, which pushed towards the abolition of serfdom, finally, because nicholas was really the first understood, he said that serfdom is evil, you are absolutely right

, but to abolish it would be even more... evil, he is afraid of the revolution, but attempts to contain the revolution ultimately led russia to a severe defeat in the crimean war, russia fought on its territory does not lose with peter i, whoever loses the war there, and loses the war, everyone understands this in russia then because of serfdom, alexander ii, the future tsar-liberator, he, sitting in these very secret committees, was in positions that were sometimes more conservative than his father, he i was not brought up at all as a... formator, but after the disaster, if we call a spade a spade for the then crimean war in russia, russia is losing to whom? england and france with modern weapons, with factory production, yes, uh, russian infantry is killed by rifle fire at those distances at which it cannot approach for its effective fire, respectively, the steamships of the british and french, well-known history, the battle of synopsis, nakhimov destroys the turkish fleet, sank the turkish fleet, and

with turkish coastal batteries, one the boat was saved, an english steamer flying the turkish flag. yes, yes, yes, well, you said that, well, they were afraid of the revolution, this is all true, and alexander ii, when he was forced after the crimean war to undertake all sorts of reforms, and when we talk about serfdom, about abolition of serfdom, you still need to understand that in itself there is, i don’t know, any decree, any. working out the technology of all this and it was impossible to just take and let the peasants go, it was necessary to do something with these new free people, it was necessary to help them, with on the one hand, on the other hand there was the concern of the landowners themselves, they cared about their own safety, so when

we say great reforms, the abolition of serfdom in 1861 is only part of all these reforms, well, in general, in short, this is a whole complex of reforms, therefore when we talk about the reform of the abolition of serfdom, we need to complement everything, including glasnost, it was not under gorbachev that the word appeared, the brother of alexander ii, konstantin, who led and restored the russian fleet after the crimean war, he wrote: about the need for glasnost in in his department, in order to solve the problems of restoring this fleet, everything again really stems from this failure, the impetus was given, of course, of course, first of all, why, in order to raise industry, especially the military, free working hands are needed, in the west, serfdom, which was finally finished off by the napoleonic wars, there it did not imply ownership of the personality of the godfather himself, and the peasants could still

leave and the situation with us became different; in general, capitalism develops in the presence three conditions, and three markets, the capital market, the availability of free capital, the market for labor and the sales market, in russia there are problems with all these three things of free working hands, serfs, the sales market, the purchasing power of the same serfs is minimal, and, accordingly, the main the source of capital, the merchants are too small - this is the state, it was the state that should have given this impetus and should have launched these gigantic transformations, you are absolutely right that the abolition of serfdom is only the first, huge, but the first step, then it was necessary to reform the entire building of the russian empire, so that during the great reforms what happens, this is a historical podcast of russia, the west is on the swing of history, today we are dealing with serfdom with the process of its abolition, something is just now i thought there was

a parallel with peter the great, because peter’s reforms were forced by deeds, he created armies, and this pulled the rest of the reforms with them. are also forced and one thing also leads to another, because well the building, so to speak, without piles, it cannot collapse, it is impossible, only from this side it can be loaded or unloaded, and at the same time, an interesting point is that, well, at least for me, if i perceive peter’s reforms as some kind of greatness, a great thing, but the reforms of alexander ii, in scale, so to speak, are quite comparable, and the reforms of alexander ii i somehow look at them, well, how can i say, with

regret that they were partial, although the reforms of peter the great were also partial, i think the difference is that peter the great, firstly, the reforms began, they were of course forced for... the country, but it was peter’s desire, alexey mikhailovich could also have started these reforms, or fyodor alekseevich, or fyodor alekseevich, but peter started, he wanted it, alexander ii , as you said, he didn’t want to, finally, peter was catching up with the west, and alexander ii was fleeing from the revolution, there ’s a huge difference between catching up and running, i would still say that he fled rather from a possible external defeat, since during the crimean wars in the english admiralty plans were already being made for the dismemberment of russia, and there was also a story that the british wanted to move the fighting after crimea further into russian territory, the french said no,

you know, we already went deep once in the twelfth year, so this is without us, but the british don’t fight without an ally on the continent, so it didn’t work out here, there’s an interesting point that the people who abolished the law were people who were formed in the nicholas era, including in these very secret committees that looked at everything these, who did not occupy the highest positions, but just when this old nikolaev public was demolished by the very first resignations of alexander ii, it was no longer possible to work with these people, they were removed , another generation appeared, an interesting episode, one of the heads of the editorial commissions that developed the project for the abolition of serfdom was yakov rostovtsev, the man who betrayed the decembrists. nicholas the first, but who apparently was tormented by his conscience all his life, and who was considered a conservative, but he, when he took office, he began to lead the way towards a more radical abolition of the reforms, and also, and some historians believe that his relatively early death, he did not live to see the abolition of serfdom, led to

the fact that they were abolished more in a conservative way, than was assumed, for example, by milyutin and than, accordingly, by yakov rostovtsev, that is, he thus atone for the guilt of betrayal, realizing what the decembrists wanted to do. this is an interesting question: these reforms, is this the influence of the west, if we are talking about the west, or is it an example of the west, i found it here, the opinion of one analyst from the nineties, there was such a comrade, and he wrote the following, if you don’t go too deep into history and don’t bother the shadow of peter the great, what are you and i doing, the beginning of our westernization is connected with reforms alexandra ii. well, this is some kind of very radical point of view, because well , the nineties, yes, westernization is relative, because the conditions under which serfdom was directly abolished are very important here

. yes, let's remember these conditions. the conditions caused the baptism to mass discontent. and when they announced a decree on liberation from serfdom, an imperial decree. then the troops in the russian empire were put on alert because they expected unrest, unrest followed, for a russian peasant freedom without land is like for us freedom without air, a russian peasant of this. but the peasant received the land for a ransom, and the ransom was determined, here is a very interesting scheme, not according to the market value of the land, but according to the amount of the quitrent that the peasant paid to the landowner before the abolition of serfdom, quitrent should have been capitalized based on 6% per annum, that is, one quitrent, you can draw a formula like this, yes, an annual quitrent is 6% of the redemption, respectively, if the quitrent was, for example, 10 rubles, then the peasant had to pay 166 rubles 67 kopecks, the peasants in poland had no trace of such money.

therefore, the ransom that the peasants had to pay was paid for by the state, the peasant contributed only 20%, the rest was paid for by the state, and to the state, now many viewers will probably remember the mortgage, yes, 49 for years, the peasants had to pay, well, from generation to generation, the state at a percentage, again the same, and if they didn’t even have 20%, they remained temporarily obliged, only after liquidation. temporary condition in 1881 - they finally became free, if - the peasant had a desire to immediately free himself, he could take a couple of acres, leave the rest of the land to the landowner, then, as he called it, he received this chicken allotment free, many peasants did this, why , because they believed that this will was not real, not the royal will, and then there will be a real royal will, they will give all the land , so now ... there is no need to agree to a buyout operation, and that’s not all, the courtyard

peasants were not given land, almost how many there were, there were 5-6 of them %. do you remember firsa in the cherry orchard, who said that there was thunder and lightning before a great misfortune, before what, his interlocutor asks him? firs replies: before the will, for him the will is a problem, why? because he is a yard servant, the landowner of the yard peasants, just throw them out into the street, they had to beg. and the most the best part. one last detail, the sections in the provinces, especially the black earth ones, determined the maximum land that the christians could receive, this is at most less than the land that the christians had previously cultivated, and the fact that the excess was cut off from 20 to 25% of the christian lands, of course, the peasants were unhappy, i found it here, i just want to read something, this is from a letter: addressed to alexander, prince boratynsky, this is

1871, and he wrote that the last word of reform will be said when the complete liberation of the russian people reaches individual, encourage the private property of peasants, and you will strangle the germs of communism, strengthen family morality, lead the country along the path of progress, there are no stronger guarantees for legal success, like property, personal freedom, and so alexander ii saw this letter and responded through count shuvalov, he writes to the prince: i am happy that i can from now on predict the serious future of the great, useful ideas for the exercise of a second slavery, perhaps worse than serfdom, for the communal use of land, i do not i doubt that a significant majority will express your views , then the matter will be... won in spite of all

the petersburg reds, who in this case will inevitably give a big battle, since all their future hopes will perish with the destruction of this social and socialist ulcer. it’s interesting that already at this time we were talking about the reds, about socialist ideas, about communism, about communism, yes, that is, the authorities understood. but, but didn’t do anything, but didn’t do, did what she decided to do, she just on the contrary, mothballed the community, including why it is easier to collect fiscal interests, taxes from the community, and only stalypin will reach the community, in the sense of attempting to abolish it, when from my point of view it will be largely too late, yes, according to the analysis of a number of western specialists who visited russia analyzed, so to speak, the stalepin reform. they just

wrote that, well, in general, everything is going great, and in a few years, if all this is realized at all, russia will generally be invincible, as they believed, they wrote so, so that stalepin in some, in some sense, he won the battle, he lost the war, but he lost the war to god chronus, today we are dealing with the issue of the abolition of serfdom, this is a historical podcast russia-west on the swing of history, the main problem was the fact that serfdom was abolished, but a whole series, as it was commonly said, and indeed, this is a completely appropriate term, remnants of serfdom remained, they stretched like weights on the legs, strengthening the stratification in russian society. the problem was that indeed, well, they looked at all these issues

completely differently, so to speak, even the most advanced, as they say now , individuals, i found here, there was such a moment, the magazine “landowner”: defended the interests of the nobility, insisted that everything should be left as it is. the magazine economic index recommended that the authorities follow western experience, that is, they stood on the side of personal land ownership. influential magazines contemporary and russian conversation, advocated communal land tenure, but for completely different reasons, contemporary... saw in the russian community is something like a western commune, which may allow russia to jump into socialism, bypassing the phase of wild capitalism , slavophiles from russian conversation saw in the community a kind of sacred umbilical cord that connects the russian people with their ancient

slavic past, so to satisfy all this diversity of opinions it was simply impossible for everyone, you can turn to economics, associated with the restructuring of economic life, but subsequently russia is picking up the pace of economic growth thanks to the abolition of serfdom, becoming capitalist rails, free labor appears, by the way, it is important to add here that very cheap labor, russian workers received the least labor in europe, but thanks to this, thanks to these reforms, thanks to subsequent financial and economic reforms that formalized the development of capitalism, russia in the end 19th century comes in third place in the world in terms of economic growth , second only to the usa and germany, and sometimes even going head to head with germany, nevertheless, the mina existed, lenin wrote in his time, yes, you can refer to the authority of vladimir ilyevich that 1861 gave birth to 905, that he meant that they demand christie in 905,

the abolition of sections, land plots, because the peasant continued to believe that the land is no one's, god's land, and god's - this means peasant, the land should belong only to the one who works on it, that’s what left these very annoying things for the peasants, these segments, these redemption payments, canceled only as a result of the first russian revolution, until that moment the peasants continued to pay and overpay, by the way, for a price higher than the market value of land, this all led to the radicalization of the russian peasantry and led to the radicalization of peasant youth, but russia then at the end of the 19th, beginning of the 20th century, the demographic factor, is a very young country, average average russia. who is this? this is a young peasant, 17-19 years old there, who understands that in the current situation, he has generally no special prospects for life, after the abolition of serfdom , this began, well, i already said that alexander ii

began to flee from the revolution , radical forces in russia began to run towards revolution and such a race for survival began to a large extent, after the abolition of serfdom in connection with the discontent that you are talking about, populists, they were waiting for, so to speak, a peasant socialist revolution, that on the wave of discontent the peasants would begin speak out, baptize with all their discontent, nevertheless they were not ready to overthrow the king’s father at that moment, faith in the good king did not disappear anywhere, so they called him peasants, passive material like this. and the idea arose of these little souls, who themselves did not want to flare up, to set fire with the help of terror , in fact, from there, from those times , the story begins about attempts

to shake up russia using the most radical methods, i don’t quite agree here, because that after all, the reaction of terror appeared... also as a reaction to the very brutal suppression of going to the people, the process of 1093, yes, when there were some people who were acquitted of the consequences at the same time, in fact, that’s why and this , to a large extent, was in the nature of some kind of revenge, of course, and this too, the end of the reformer is known to us, as a result of the grenevitsky bomb, yes, several attempts, unsuccessful, and then a successful attempt, this... period or something , i would put an end here, because then a period of outright freezing begins. alexander ii, this is a separate story, to a large extent, this is a continuation and

a separate story, well, the unsuccessful reign of the last russian emperor. pobedonostsev extended the savins over russia wing after the eighty-first year, now we understand that without the abolition of serfdom, russia simply could not have existed, because the plans were corresponding, as we have already said , there were plans for partition. existed and the lag became disastrous, but what comes next is the agrarian question, the main question of russia, because the bulk of the population is a village, it is a peasantry, they tried not to touch it, they tried to freeze it in every possible way, this played a role, of course, we have already talked about this they said, but this is very important again emphasize, later played a disastrous role, because this main question remains in the first russian revolution, in the seventeenth year even too, that is , it extends to... of course, of course, i think that

the topic of serfdom, it is before, like you said, it lasts until the seventeenth year, it to a huge extent predetermined the entire future path of russia, played its role , generally completely negative, until the abolition and negative due to half-measures, half-liberation, which contributed to the radicalization, so to speak, in principle of russian society, which, first of all, as you correctly noted, consisted of peasants, so yes, this is a very important point and yes, if russia had not carried out the abolition of serfdom. right, it had a chance to fall apart altogether, these half measures ultimately largely

detonated in 1917. this is a historical podcast, russia and the west on the swing of history. today we tried to deal with the issue of the abolition of serfdom. pyotr romanov and sergei solov were with you. study history with us. all issues of history. the russia-west podcast on the swing of history can be viewed on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. hello, dmitry bak is here, host of a literary podcast called very important words. let them not talk, let them read. today our guest is theater and film actor and writer veniamin borisovich smekhov. hello, veniamin borisovi.

hello, let's start, if you don't mind from the very beginning, this is how it all started for you, what was in the foreground or what was in the beginning, and what then? so, i was born in moscow a year before the start terrible war, dad went to the front, already being. candidate of economic sciences was already in charge of some sector in the main house of the soviet union, which was called gasplan of the ussr. my father is a scientist, and when his centenary was celebrated without him, it was at the current plekhanov academy, where dad taught for many years. and they opened it. professor smekhov's classroom, now when i appear in

plekhanovka, my middle grandson studied there, and i visited him, and we approached this classroom, several teachers immediately reported that there is a rumor among students that if you take the smekhova test in this classroom, then it promises you good luck, well that. good reputation, it’s wonderful, yes, it’s an ideal reputation, yeah, but my father still went to the front , my family began in 1945, what was my beloved mother like, naturally, i had nothing else in the world next to me, and i don’t have anything more sublime and beautiful and beloved, we went for evacuation to chistopol and yelabuga, understandable places, yes, from the second

year my mother was already forced to become a doctor, a doctor. as a successful therapist all my life mother, and father appeared in the summer kindergarten with my mother, in military uniform, even then he did not change into civilian clothes, but i naturally did not recognize him, because throughout the 5 years of the war, my mother and i received letters where my father drew pictures of me, that is, he imagined what you were like, right? yes, these are very touching, downright sentimental letters, they have been preserved, they have been preserved, they have been preserved, how great it is, my little sister, uh-huh, tick, she made a whole book out of it, uh-huh, so, in a word, dad showed up, and dad

brought a bunch of gifts from germany, these were toys, and dad brought poems from the front, like this until his death... until he was 97 years old, he knew many poems from pushkin to plishcheev, copied by hand or in books, or this is important, like poetry by heart, what kind of poetry he he loved poetry, you remember, well, at least something from maikovsky, pushkin, lermontov, bryusov, kozma prutkov, well, that’s enough, well, bryusov is not so banal, yes, it’s such an original thing, after all, to love bryusov. modern times, yes, but for tsvetaeva, for example, of course, of course, well, in moscow there is bryusov's house and he is included in our museum, of course, there is no doubt about it, as it seems to you, that's when you start reading poetry around, well, not on the stage, but somewhere at home, at the table, when people find out that you remember , i also remember, a lot of poems, although god forbid i’m not an actor, people perceive it with surprise or as something else

, dima, when the theater was born... taganka, and i was born with it, i ran out of doubts about about whether i was an actor or whether i would go into literature, it was taganka and it was a poetic genre that my beloved and i opened it, but maybe before moving on to that toganka, well , let’s just tell you about this time again, in recent years very close attention has been focused on this... between 56 and 68, approximately, how it looked from the inside, we know a set of, well, also such cliches, not cliches, well, such common opinions, yes, the spirit of freedom, as it was seen, i felt a fresh wind of hope, a fresh wind of hope, yes, yes, yes, i was already

an independent adult guy, i had already canceled my ... dreams of teaching russian and literature and followed the lead of an inner voice, or how else to say the inner demon whose existence you know as a wonderful teacher at a theater institute, we all followed the lead of some devil, well, socrates was executed for this... because he spoke to some -deinion, remember, with some kind of demon, that is, not only us, but for quite a long time already, well, he’s a good devil , positive, and the main thing in our profession, of course, is who, for example, my

older friend was amazing actor, oleg pavlovich tabakov, a clown, a clown with a capital c, that’s the clowning around me... i was tormented , pulled, my insomnia was tormenting me, as mozart says, yes, but here it’s most likely not clowning, maybe irony, yes, probably so, not really , after all, the actor is the one who knows how to pretend, yeah, this is a word with a double meaning, of course, with negative and positive, to act, to act with one’s face, yes, that is. pretense, imitate life or reincarnate, but we’ll go aside, well, it’s time ataganka, senior tova, here i am i entered the then best theater institute, the chukin school, under the young master vladimir etush, and then i can

already remind those viewers who, at the same time, my readers and this many times described how, after the end of the first year, he suggested that i go into mathematics, leave further away: that is, not even in the writer, in mathematics, he did not believe, but why in mathematics, well, this, this is so, rounded off with the word mathematics, the concept is too smart, i think, but it’s impossible, an actor shouldn’t be, i’m convinced , what is it, actor, head as it were sometimes it outweighs, yes, that is, he should be all skin, gesture, again we go into technology, dim, that means, yes, indeed, being a stupid person and an actor, well, not the most interesting combination for me, but the actor is smart, well, for me

favorite actors, smaktunovsky, stegneev, oleg borisov, yuri nikulin, the most wonderful, of course, these are super actors, because there are wonderful actors, and there are super, there was some case when marlon brondo in london asked lawrence. these are two giants, but young brondo, who went through stanislavsky’s school in new york, when asked how you do it all, he answered sir laurence, olivier , a genius of all times, i am a representative of the school of experience of konstantin stanislavsky, that ’s what laurence answered. levier and how swear words sound in english, i don’t really know, well, it’s roughly understandable, it doesn’t matter, well, yes, and when brondo asked him, how do you

manage to do everything, he said: you have to be good at pretending, that’s all, well, look , after all , the popular opinion is not my stamp, that taganka is not very stanislavsky, even maybe even quite the opposite, yes or how, after all, this is... what kind of theater was petrovich at that time, you always find yourself in a complex topic that makes you tempted to go aside just about this and talk, well, a little, but it’s still important to open this up if he says, there is a contrast, the theater of experience and the theater of presentation, this is the theater of experience, this is stanislavsky’s theater, the actor must penetrate inside. image must shelter oneself, feel like this

person, there inside, grow in oneself that whatever, yeah, and the theater of performance turned out to be stronger in modern times, yeah, and if only because one way or another, but in its best manifestations, this is a connection, therefore brecht , therefore mayakovsky, therefore external, yes, go from internal to external, this is stanislavsky, to go from external to internal, this is vakhtangov, stanislavsky’s favorite student , this is how they branched off from him, from the brilliant stanislavsky, vakhtangov towards fantastic realism, we will quote dostoevsky, and mir holt is in some direction of the theater constructivism, yeah, theater, uh, avangard, maybe, yes, this place is probably, yeah, well, in general, an amazing time

, we won’t go away again, but let’s say that it’s not a person, it’s a theater, there’s gaidebur, tairov, vakhtangov, stanislavsky, mirkhold, well, that’s everything is very close, and komissarzhevskaya is not too long ago, compared to those, as you well know. yes, what are you, what are you, i, i am a spectator, i am a teacher at the studio school, nothing more, but this is an amazing time, it was taganka who still did not continue anything, literally, the judgment of an amateur, and so synthesized it all, twisted it so much, tied it up so much that it hit, as my students say, they say, it hit me, that it hit millions of people, respecting the podcast mode, i’ll shorten it and answer: it didn’t work out for me at the very beginning, i graduated with honors, at first for the second year i was, as they call it, not

a volunteer, a volunteer, but in the middle of the second year this same one demanded that i return, and i and sasha zbruev, my classmate, who was also deprived of this certificates after the first year, he was also too smart, yes, probably not, something? another, everyone, well, actually, everyone was too smart and you and i, it’s ending, the shchukin school, i choose not only... according to my taste, but according to the taste of that new russian literature, prose, which i endlessly fell in love with, the opening of the magazine youth, the appearance of anatoly gladilin, aksyonov, while singing i read new prose, young prose was spoken then, but young prose in my opinion, and

there, one way or another, i heard a call to leave moscow, because moscow is not russia, this is the capital, and to go to where the real one breathes, that is, russia, all russian literature between two calls, get out of moscow or to moscow moscow, i just came up with this, but in my opinion, this is very good, we continue, and i i remind you that our guest today is a theater and film actor and writer. smekhov. veniamin borisovich, maybe you still read something smart. now i will finish what i started. this means that he left of his own free will, went to the volga in kuibysh, to samara. i was enough for a year, for a year, i passed a gigantic school of experience, nine performances in which i participated, three main roles, simultaneously television, radio, skit show,

something else. for a long time there was a devil, what a heap in my destiny, something new, and he was nearby, without him it would not have happened, nothing happy, nikolai zasukhin, a great artist, a great actor, and i saw how this man works, he is a front-line soldier, he came from from the war, young, wonderful, a miracle actor, in general, he was my first real teacher after that. and then i returned to moscow because nostalgia for my hometown, i was consumed by nostalgia, about this i wrote a story on the way to moscow, the story was given by my teacher, whom you probably knew, yuri borisovich borev, of course, gave my youth to the magazine, they wanted to publish my youthful story about ' a young man who went

to the volga and from there returns to moscow, that's all. and there, of course, zasukhin is one of the main characters. this story was not published, thank god, but the romance with the magazine youth continued, a little later. at the same time i am doing to the drama and comedy theater, because you have to earn a living and somehow live. then, which later became a theater. a year later, yuri lyubimov came to this theater, with him the eight main characters of the kind man from xizuan, the brilliant graduation performance of the shukin school, and lyubimov’s first director’s masterpiece, described in all the theatrical anthologies of the world, of course , of course, well, well, i didn’t know my destiny,

but he had already worked in drama and comedy and was planning to leave there too, to go into literature firmly all the time, some kind of fork in the road you are in literature all the time in literature, how is this the norm for an artist for a normal person to doubt, well, yes, in such distances , pasternak’s refusal of music, refusal of philosophy , and without drawing parallels, but something i do all the time, this is not the first time you speak with the word he did not leave where should i go from the steps of my deity , now, well, it’s amazing all around you, so everyone appeared around you , vysotsky fillatov, at first there was no one , at first there was a kind man from sizuan and

lyubimov reorganized the theater. from the previous there are not many actors left in the theater in whom he believed, including three young ones, yura smirnov, vsevolot sobolev, here i am, and some other group of actors, we connected with him, with his heroes, a kind person , and this good man from sizuan was born on the stage of the theater opposite the taganskaya metro, the theater was called very stupidly, drama and comedy, we called it. trauma and comedy, of course, everything was wonderful , theater was born and life was born at 24, now it’s 7:24, like yes, yes, around the clock, that means, but

this life began, here, here, like this, like this life began, it was necessary after this gigantic success, it was impossible to perform a play every day, but they played, say, 2 days later on the third, there were some two performances left from the previous repertoire, especially a new performance, it was, was the debut of pyotr naumovich fomenko, microdistrict, microdistrict and fomenko himself, a man of extraordinary attractiveness, a brilliant man of theatrical art, became my god in the theater, this is my favorite thing. a creature in culture, if we needed to go somewhere with my beloved wife and your friend galina

aksenova, i had to leave somewhere, i called the fireman and said, bless, he says, bless, let’s expand the vessels and narrow them at once, long live the muses, let the mind disappear, wonderful, wonderful, well, our interlocutors remember, of course, there are vessels no, and the mind is there on the contrary, it does not hide, it appears, so, my soul remained , my brains, i don’t know, my stupidity, still held, the name closest to my heart is vladimir mayakovsky, and i am very glad that i came to you to visit. dmitry petrovich, because the life of my, let’s say, last performance in memory of mayakovsky, before your eyes it began, and quite correctly, in rome, it was a time, it was, well, some amazing

family of a grandiose artist who was in love, an italian, who was in love with maykovsky and came up with the book bug, illustrations for all the scenes of the lighthouse . klopa mayakovsky and his wife larisa, a ballerina from the ostrakhan theater, who wanted to arrange a grand presentation of her husband’s book, but so that the russian word would be heard. that’s it, they found my glasha, galina gennadievna, she said: “well, of course, we can come, and vene will read maikovsky, he can be woken up, he can always read maikovsky, but. but he’d better come up with a play, and i came up with a play for three, here you go, masha matveeva, dima vysotsky and i, in rome, after the presentation of a wonderful book, bedbug, we are playing for the first time the play

flute spine, aksyonova is actually the director of the play, she is completely merciless in theaters , these are the theaters... well, how can i say this, at the start, this is zero directing, and the theaters are already in full swing, there will definitely be a director, this will be your mo, today's, this is a formula that i attach great importance to, well, this is known, well, here is the performance, russian emigrants are sitting in the hall. advice, well then, yes, there are already russians, yes, russian journalists, guests, a lot of russian-hearing people, russian speakers, people in love with maikovsky, italians,