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a special analytical issue is on the air, the games have just ended in a mansion, on an estate near san francisco, an important meeting between the president, joe biden and chairman sizempina. this meeting was in the context of the session of the asia-pacific economic community, but nevertheless in
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because of the importance of this meeting, for the united states and for china, this meeting was organized in a special place, at a special time, and it was given, perhaps, in the united states, at least further, greater importance than the ats meeting itself. with us now on skype is nelson wong, president of the shanghai center for strategic and international studies, presenter, chinese international specialist. as you know, a very important meeting between president biden and chairman sizempine has just ended, it took place on the sidelines of the meeting ats in san francisco, but in general this meeting was in a separate place, in a special estate, not far from san francisco,
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and was given importance, perhaps even greater than the plenary meeting itself. i want to ask you how the results of this meeting are assessed in the united states, whether anything happened at this meeting that was particularly pleasing, anything that caused particular concern, and in general to what extent this meeting was as expected in beijing . it seems to me that overall, the meeting between the chairman and president, in principle, was received quite positively in china; everyone knows that relations between our two countries have recently been at a very low level.
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perhaps the lowest in the last few decades, so i would say that this meeting was especially important because china and the united states are the world's largest economies and therefore the relationship between our countries affects the whole world , affects global politics, the global economy, a lot depends on which direction we are moving, therefore, by and large, we can probably say this: if the leaders of two countries can meet, sit down to talk, if they can maintain a dialogue, then this is good, good for everyone, so i would not sign how many agreements were reached, it is important, so to speak, in in general, that the meeting itself took place, so in china they are talking about it now, and even during the cold
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war, you know, the soviet union and the united states continued to maintain contacts with each other, so why, if all of a sudden. china and the us will stop communicating with each other, well, as you know, president biden said that this was one of the most constructive meetings that they had ever with chairman ping, and he had biden had many meetings with him, more starting from the period when biden was obama's vice president, on the other hand, upon conclusion... biden said, yes, i believe, because they have a communist system in china, and he is its leader, i understand that
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since biden did a similar statement before, it was difficult for him to get away from it question, but nevertheless, he certainly could have gotten away from it. i could just say, you know, we just finished important negotiations, and this is not the moment when i want to characterize the chinese leader, or just laugh and say, you know, we said a lot of things about each other, but now we had constructive negotiations, and he said what he said, that's how it's perceived in china, that it's just an old man's slip of the tongue, or that... is it something more significant? but i personally don’t think that this will cause any particularly large protests from
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side of china can be ignored, president biden is the president of another country , this is a completely different system, therefore... in any case, we in china do not understand this and do not attach such great importance to it, on the other hand, chairman xidinping during the opening words said something very important, he said that the relationship between our two countries needs to be developed, it needs to be taken care of, and it needs to be understood that the united states cannot expect for its part to change china, and china for its part is also not going to force america to change, the two countries must learn to suck the countries together, but the problem is this, the united states, perhaps,
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is not yet ready to accept the fact that it will have to coexist with another country that is active and dynamic. is developing, gaining economic strength, and perhaps political strength too, so it’s a matter of perception, until the moment comes when the american elite, the american mainstream, change their approach and mature, when they mature, then i think the time will come in order for our relations have become better, but for now, for now, everything that is happening, perhaps the only thing we can do... is to somehow smooth out the existing contradictions, keep our relations from discord and chaos, so that this does not lead to crises
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, but the most important thing now is this, the most important thing is that americans learn to respect china, i agree that there is no need to pay too much attention to this statement, this rude statement by biden in relations with china or the leader of russia, then that would be something meant a lot significant, in american political culture, if you're talking about the biden administration, but they just think that you can say anything, they have the right, because they are so important and so special, what worries me more, of course, is, what happened in the negotiations themselves, was there real progress, not progress at the level of reaching an agreement, let’s continue to talk, but progress at the level of some specific... agreements on major issues, including, of course, taiwan. as far as i understand,
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four topics were discussed, on four topics some kind of agreement was reached, the first was a dialogue between the military, and the united states for its part too. both the chinese military and the american military are striving for this, they must have some kind of mechanism in order to resume contacts with each other, because these contacts were interrupted and for quite a long time, for obvious reasons, they did not exist, so the resumption of this mechanism, this dialogue between the two armies is a rather important step; this is necessary in order to avoid any crisis situations, any conflicts. this is a collaboration on
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the fight against drugs, this is the second point, the third, the third is that the united states and china have agreed to increase. then expand exchange programs between and expand business contacts. these are basically the agreements that were reached, the agreements that we managed to reach during the meeting, but i still want to say that at meetings of this level, it is quite natural that both sides prepare... a long wish list, wishlist, what they would like, china also
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has such a list, and taiwan stopped use taiwan as a weapon, and did not interfere in intra-regional issues, territorial disputes over some islands in the south china sea, for example, and so on, it all comes down to a difference in views, because we believe that all these disputes, yes, they exist, but how best to resolve them, the best thing is to let the direct participants in these disputes independently deal with all these contradictions, which is why we are engaged in dialogue with our neighboring countries, because any there is a history of the problems, but what we don’t like is when such a country
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, from the western pacific region, from the other end of the pacific ocean, begins to interfere in our regional affairs, this is what china doesn’t like, china perceives such actions with caution, well and as for taiwan, china has made its position very clear many times, this is an internal matter, and we reject the approach taken by the united states, there are other issues about which the united states expresses dissatisfaction, for example, the americans do not i like that the chinese authorities provide subsidies to some chinese companies, they claim that this violates the principle of fair competition, but let 's not forget that the american authorities, for their part, are doing exactly the same thing, over the past year trying to compete with china, the american authorities also gave their companies very significant subsidies, so
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problems of this kind cannot be solved in one meeting, naturally, it is very important to note that between our countries, but they were created several special committees, several special working groups on trade. there are a number of commissions that have been created on a variety of topics, what does this mean? that both countries understand how important it is to maintain an active dialogue with each other, and not just sit. silently, when you look at the reports in the american press, the results of the negotiations, it’s interesting not only what they say, there was, and they practically do not mention ukraine, and the conflict around gas, is it true
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that this was not an important topic for discussion, and if not, why do you think , you know, i don’t know if these issues were discussed in the chorus of the meeting, but even if they were raised, even if they were raised, i still think that it would be difficult to expect that on these issues there will be some kind of consensus, because china takes its position, it is very different from the position of the united states, on the two issues that you just said, if the americans, for their part , did not talk about this, if these two issues were not discussed during the meeting , it would be very easy for me to understand this, because well, absolutely
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it is obvious that it would be impossible to come to an agreement on these issues, the positions of our two countries have been openly stated many times before, again, when i read reports in the american press, there is nothing said that biden tried influence china, cooperate less with russia, whatever it is, do not supply to russia, do not support russia in international organizations, i have not seen such messages, on the other hand, when... somehow separate china from russia, is it known you, was there such an attempt, if so, what was it ended? well, in principle, i would not be surprised.
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it turned out that the united states tried to somehow win china over to its side and encourage it to take an anti-russian position. yes, the americans, in fact, are also trying to do the same thing with russia, trying to turn it against china. this is a strategic approach, the us strategic philosophy: divide and conquer. but it seems to me that this approach, this theory, it all goes back to the times of the cold war. it seems to me that china and russia, the relationship between our two countries, is very good an example, an example of the fact that we live in the 21st century, in the 21st century relations between countries should be built this way, we are not friends together against someone, we are actually just
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neighbors, china is russia’s biggest neighbor, the same thing. russia is china's biggest neighbor; our economies complement each other very well. and we share common values ​​and we stand together against american hegemony. we both don’t like it, that one hegemon is trying to rule the world, who wants to lead everyone, teach everyone, how they should live, and so on. this is what we need to give up, this is what we need to get away from. china has spoken about this many times and it seems to me that our russian friends now understand this very well, that china does not strive to form some kind of alliance, since the united states, for example, arranges alliances with some countries, this is something different, this
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a different kind of attitude, as one expert recently said, strategic offensive arms negotiations, the corresponding treaty with russia expires in 2026, and uh, the administration, the biden administration repeatedly asked russia to persuade china to join these
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negotiations? in russia, the usual answer was that china has its own interests, its own position on this issue, and if the united states wants chinese participation, then the united states has the opportunity to negotiate on strategic offensive weapons. and if so, how does peking feel about it? but it seems to me that china has very clearly outlined its position on this specific issue, because our nuclear arsenal, it does not go either way how does it compare with the arsenals of the united states and russia, in terms of condition... therefore, china is not yet ready to sit down at the table with the united states to discuss this topic.
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it seems to me that china has taken a very realistic position on this issue, so it would probably be inappropriate for the united states to expect china to join these negotiations, or to try to somehow influence russia in order to. russia dragged china, involved china in these negotiations, i think it’s premature, for it would be premature to involve you, thank you, thank you for your words of wisdom, thank you for your time, we hope to see you again soon on our program, thank you dmitry, it makes no difference to him whether it’s to the side or to the forehead, he penetrates 1,300 mm behind dynamic protection, recently british ones were shot down for the first time with this weapon
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challengers, an english journalist came up , and where does he say it’s convenient to be in a tank next to a tank, 35 years old, he’s still a boy, he heads the instrument making bureau in tula, he said, i always demand the impossible. the target was discovered by azima 61, this is the pantsius anti-aircraft missile and gun complex, which carried out an air defense coup, the remains of the downed namilaktar, the sky is under, which is superior, for the day of the missile forces and artillery, on sunday on the first. gin snop, a product of the stellar group, there is a big
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game on the air, and we continue to discuss the results of the meeting of chinese american leaders in san francisco, with us now via skype , ekaterina moore, our own correspondent for united states merchants. ekaterina, we are very glad to see you and i must add that, to our great pleasure, you have become a regular participant in our program. thank you for that. thank you, dmitry. hello. i just spoke with nelson wong, president of the shanghai center for strategic and international studies. and he. to say that in general, the chinese reaction to the meeting with biden was, let’s say, restrainedly positive , without illusions, without concrete achievements, but with
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the feeling, as gorbachev said, as gorbachev liked to say, that the process has begun, and that this itself important to myself, because, in general , relations from the chinese point of view were close to a crisis, there was a lack of basic communication and there was a fear that there could be some kind of dangerous incident, that is, in beijing they don’t clap their hands, don’t open champagne, well, in general there is a certain satisfaction, but what about washington? well - the meeting was quite restrained, i completely agree, the results were even lower than the expectations of those who related to them, especially in light of the latest comment by joe biden, who called adzin pini a dictator once again, and if we watch the video, many of these
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stories and videos are being translated - video on antony blinken, who for many months has been actively engaged in improving, normalizing relations with china, and of course, for him it was just such a serious fiasco, you can see how upset he was about this, and here it is worth noting that in my opinion, this is such a serious failure of joe biden's advisors and group. who briefed him, because clearly mr. biden was saying what he thought, improvising, and such a question could have been predicted, well, that is, in my opinion, what happened said at the end, it blurred the entire positive agenda that preceded the meeting, well, let’s remember that china ’s main argument is that the united states is limiting china’s development in the field of
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high... technologies, washington did not promise anything on this topic, but to the chinese leader, but he basically took this into account, well, i think that the opening of military channels that were closed, well, this is a very restrained, let’s say, such a result of this meeting, of course much more was expected from it, especially since gavin newson even cleaned up california in order to receive a dear leader. davidson, this is the governor of california, david newson, the governor of california, yes, okay , ekaterina, before i talked to you, i asked about biden’s statement about dictators, i asked professor voong, in general he somehow reacted very calmly , well, he says, well, he said, he said, we have our own point of view on this, naturally different, we
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understand that in america. another political figure, and he expressed doubt that this episode would have a significant impact on relations with the united states, but if we talk about his general perception of the meeting, it was very restrained and there was a feeling that there were such serious contradictions regarding international problems, such as ukraine, such as different attitudes towards what can be done in taiwan , and lastly, he said that the united states sends its ships, its aircraft, close to the territorial entry of china, in china, frankly, let’s say, they do not treat this with understanding, were there any, from washington’s point of view, any progress in
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these issues and some... a feeling that, well, if it was not possible to agree, then at least they found some common approaches to how to deal with the growing global presence of the united states, so close to china, with a presence that in beijing causes rejection, but there is an understanding that conversations continue, discussions continue, this is of course wonderful, because, as we know, when diplomats speak, the guns are silent, but on the other hand, it is worth remembering that - confrontation with china, it did not start by accident, back in the fifties, there were certain, but definite plans, yes, taiwan in these plans is very critically important, and in fact china is surrounded by the allies of the united states, and now joe biden: and
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de facto new alliances are being formulated , yes, they are formulating an agenda for new military alliances, there with new zealand, yes, with india, and in order to counter the growth of chinese influence, china, of course, cannot help but notice this, and of course, china does not promise any kind of warming, but on the other hand, and pursues its tough position, therefore the only... positive shift, such a micro-shift, which, but not one of the parties , as we see, softened its position, no compromises were reached on practically any item on the agenda of these negotiations, therefore to summarize, i will say that they are talking, and interaction continues, but if we remember , the day before the meeting took place,
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a study on china was submitted to congress... in which it was stated to the congressmen that china, after all, was not excludes military clash and its citizens are ready if it happens to cause serious economic problems, but on the other hand , i note that american experts have been saying for a long time that if such a clash occurs, most likely the united states will not stand up to the pressure of china, that is this is a general collegial opinion that washington will simply lose in such a confrontation, here we can say that we can conclude that most likely washington needs china in this context more than washington china. thanks, let's change the subject. you said that there were no compromises between the united states and china
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, but a compromise arose between republicans and democrats in the american congress on the budget issue and, as i understand it, they agreed, in general, to maintain more or less the status quo. and return to this issue in january, february, with one very important exception: assistance to ukraine, well, assistance to israel, but assistance to ukraine is especially important, because this is not just an important project for the biden administration, this is where they have already accepted themselves obligations, president the united states just recently said that the united states will always be completely. at the level at which it is necessary, i really liked this statement, because if biden meant this literally, then he made two statements at the same time, that firstly, he is immortal, and will constantly provide
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assistance, accordingly, as he wants, and secondly, he made a statement that, in general, he would forever be left at the head of the united states, immortal joe, but this is already kind of a sarcastic remark, here on in practice, what will happen to american aid to ukraine? well, if you look at the information field, and regarding the adoption of a temporary resolution, and the new york times, washington post and many other publications write that now we can almost talk about the death knell or we can talk about the death knell of ukrainian aid , and if we remember, ermak even came to washington, the head, the head of the zelsky office, that’s right, yes, the head of the administration met with representatives
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of the state department, senior members of the biden administration, and there was such an indicative discussion at the hudson institute, where, in principle, even american experts talked about the fact that there is now a very pessimistic mood in congress about helping ukraine, ukraine, ermak attributed this, in turn, to kremlin propaganda, but american experts point out on absolutely such banal, rather, reasons why this is happening now, but firstly, let us remember that the counter-offensive did not live up to expectations, and secondly, it is expected that there will most likely be a reduction in american gdp, one way or another, there will be certain economic difficulties, and now the united states needs to think first of all about
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itself, and here, accordingly, the second problem comes to the fore, that budget cuts are necessary, and the republicans, they believe that yes, we can continue.. level, but if you want to help other american governments in the same countries as part of emergency assistance, then you will have to reduce funding for american departments, in this case, for israel, for example, they talked about funding, american, yes, which the democrats cannot agree to, any reduction in funding for the american government, social programs, it can bring. consequences in the framework of the upcoming elections next year, so here such a solomonic decision was ultimately made within the framework of a temporary resolution that we are not giving anything to anyone, but we are not cutting off our loved ones either. ukraine, with
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the sixty billion dollars in aid that biden requested, of course, does not fit into this beautiful picture of the world, and here even supporters of ukraine say that assistance will be provided, then we are talking not about weeks, but about months, according to statements there by jack selowen, joe biden's national security advisor, or blinken. or from the same pentagon, in the same piggy bank that congress has already allocated for financing ukraine, there is still 1 billion left, out of more than 100 billion that the united states gave to ukraine over the past year, well, that is, the situation is critical, and again, as high-ranking officials say, ukraine , of course, may be standing up, but it is already
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will not be able to talk to... among his other interesting statements in washington , he said that he explains to congress that assistance to ukraine in the national united states, for me this is a new idea, that members of congress really need ukrainian lectures about theirs. national interests, professor, duginin, do you have a question or comment? no, it seems to me that in this situation we are approaching a turning point, a turning point in our special military operation; the west is certainly disappointed in how its resources are being used military aid, no results, the election cycle begins, and it would be interesting to ask our... our colleague from washington,
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is ukraine really disappearing from the agenda in the united states, it seems to us that yes, but maybe this is the operation of our view, this is how things really stand, ekaterina , yes, you are absolutely right, even if you look at the front pages of american newspapers or speeches, it is quite obvious that ukraine is leaving the top agenda, if we look at another event that took place a little more weeks ago, this is a republican discussion within the debate, we can even see that a longtime supporter of assistance to ukraine, senator scott, who has now withdrawn his candidacy from the election race, he expressed himself very softly on the topic of continuing assistance to ukraine, i think that this
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very much..." thing, because he said that, summarizing his statement, he said that we have priority tasks, this is the southern border, this is assistance to our closest ally in the middle east, israel, with ukraine we will see , we will discuss what how budget funds are spent, we will discuss accountability, and only then will we discuss further. and perhaps, of all the leaders and public opinion in the republican part of the electorate and the leaders, the leaders who act as contenders for the republican nomination, we see absolute pessimism in relation to ukrainian assistance, i think that now mr. dugin absolutely correctly expressed this a trend that...we now see is a reduction in interest in ukraine,
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then to put it in such a long box, to hush it up, yes, because we will remember that the united states, they promised to support so many countries, and to the end, no matter what, let us remember what happened to afghanistan, for example, yes, shameful leaving, so i think that the same story could happen with ukraine, a refusal of priorities, and such, you know, leaving, leaving in the direction of others, others, initiatives and other allies. catherine, thank you so much, good luck in washington, take care of yourself, i heard that washington has become a dangerous city, not only from the point of view of american politics, but from the point of view of walking the streets, so we will worry about you, but we are confident that you will cope with any challenges, i hope you will soon... we are going
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more than the shadow of a carnival. why wear a mask if you can’t refuse matador, venice, winter water, tomorrow on the first. there is a big game on air, we continue to discuss the situation in ukraine in the world, and with professor alexander dugin, a famous and very interesting philosopher, was with me in the studio. in the field of world geopolitics, well, geopolitics, you even wrote a textbook on this topic, it involves some kind of definition of priorities, and this is probably especially important for great powers, so let's listen to
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how he determines his main priorities that prevent him sleep, presidential assistant... thoughts about supporting ukraine, thoughts about the military and diplomatic components, thoughts about supporting the economy of ukraine, protecting its civilian infrastructure, especially on the eve of winter, all this does not let me sleep at night , i lie and think about how to protect the energy supply of ukraine, so that this winter the country does not plunge into cold and darkness, under the onslaught of russian missiles and iranian drones, all this contributes my... insomnia, well, is this some kind of shocking thing, or is this serious, if this is serious, what does this say about the foreign policy priorities of the white house, well, in my opinion, this is what young people call trolling, that is, when you
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say something absurd with a smart look things, the task is to convince the observer that you seriously think this, that you are mocking him, so that he does not know, remains in bewilderment, this is the task of trolling to confuse in some sense, on the one hand, salivaan sets out the well-classic version of its geopolitical line on the need to help ukraine against russia and, accordingly, on continuing to defend a unipolar world, and this is serious geopolitics, and any contenders for the creation of independent sovereign poles, and to expose... to shortchange them, to give them problems, to attack them, this is indeed normal geopolitics, but since, if we talk about seriousness, then this should have been followed, as it should have been before, by billions of military support in order to manifest this in practice
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to back up our geopolitical theory with concrete actions , which is what america and the nato bloc were doing until the last moment, but suddenly we see that this man simply can’t sleep, that is... and he can’t sleep because it’s going to be cold, and the russians and the missiles, iranian drones, they say, can help the ukrainians, who will sleep peacefully in the winter and not die on the fronts in huge numbers , this worries him, that is, this already looks like a mockery, that is, on the one hand , a clear geopolitical theory, in the practical sphere we are told, that this worries me, it’s insomnia, in fact this is trolling, when something very serious is taken, from the point of view of the american model of maintaining the struggle for a unipolar world consistently and correctly, on the other hand some completely obviously unsuitable or even simply absurd explanation is given of how this will be implemented in practice, typical geopolitical trolling, you know , in general, if someone can’t sleep, he’s married,
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like him i heard, everything is fine, you can talk to my wife, eat for insomnia, you can talk to a psychologist, well, take this seriously, like the main priorities of the united states, which do not allow the presidential assistant for national security to sleep, it’s even hard to believe, but what bothered me most of all is that i i thought, what if this is not trolling, what if it’s true, what? eh, indeed, an assistant to the president of the united states, despite his brilliant education, his brilliant career , whatever positions he held, administrations, and before that he was with hillary clinton in the state department, but what if he really thinks at this level, but to me
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this is just very difficult to believe, i think that everything is fine with his sleep, with his psychologist, with his wife, with his income, it’s just necessary to somehow support morally, his proxy structures, and without receiving real support, they need to send some kind of gesture of goodwill , this is called without... salevan, when you can’t give anything, you probably don’t even want to give anymore, no longer, well, say hi to your grandmother, approximately, what is it, we are worried about her health, although no one even remembers what her name is, it’s approximately from this series, maybe not trolling, but definitely not insomnia, okay, so if not trolling, not insomnia, then what after all, this is what motivates these people, i’m asking you a question absolutely sincerely, i know very little, blinkin, i don’t know at all, but i know people well, their type, i have encountered them many times,
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listened to their speeches, sat with them at the same meetings, even talked to some people personally, i still don’t understand what motivates them, well, take this crisis in ukraine, i don’t know if you will agree with me, but here we cannot exclude the potential for a terrible escalation that... would lead everyone, including the united states into a real abyss. so i'm trying to understand what's there in america they think that the united states in ukraine has forgotten that they will justify such a risk, such a price. and the washingtonians in the same administration say that the main long-term enemy of the united states is china. if this is so, then you, as a geopolitician, explain. how is it possible for the united states to create
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such conditions, promote such conditions that lead to a rapprochement between russia and china. well , you know, in my opinion, the geopolitics here is completely consistent, why ukraine? this is a cordon sanitaire. wrote about this founder of geopolitics mackinder, about this. brzyzinski, spykman, it is necessary to tear off potential russia, russia, which asserts its sovereignty from europe, for this it is necessary to create a conflict zone between europe and russia, and ukraine, even if the price of this is a rapprochement between russia and china, this is another question, in the classics of geopolitics, the one who controls eastern europe controls the heartland, china did not play such a big role then, according to the classical precepts of the anglo-saxon. geopolitics, everything that the united states is doing in ukraine is wonderful
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fits into this classical standard, as for china , it is a new player, it has never appeared as an independent subject in geopolitics until recently, now, as nelson wank said, a tripolar system has really emerged, and to china, china poses another threat for this. america is organizing a conflict in ukraine and supporting ukraine with the maximum possible means, taking very high risks, as you rightly noted, this is classical geopolitics, but at the same time, given the growth china, a trade war begins, a problem begins in taiwan, essentially economic rivalry with china begins, which forces. talk about a dictator. this is not a mistake, it is not that the elderly man simply lost his mind, remembered something from the anti-communist past, nothing
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of the kind. in fact, both russia and china , as two new independent sovereign poles that have appeared in the world, unconditionally limiting the omnipotence of the western world of western hegemony, which simply openly, in our case in the case of sidpin, speak about the unacceptability of this hegemony, they must be fought at the same time, and china is more of an economic threat, and we are a military-strategic threat, they are fighting us with war, with them with economic, economic treaties, that is, they are forced to wage a war on two fronts, and now more gas from the islamic poles, a third front line arises, the third pole begins to resemble the islamic one, still in the preparation stage, not yet as consolidated, of course, as our two policies, india, sooner or later , of course, seeing how... china and russia draw a line towards a new multipolar model, will also not take advantage of this opened window of opportunity.
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the new geopolitics of a multipolar world is superimposed on the classical... policy of confrontation between land and sea, it seems to me that there is nothing more, say, logical, consistent with what is happening in these conflicts, both between us and the west in ukraine, and between china and america, and between the islamic world and israel and supported by the west, simply no, this is exactly according to the laws of classical geopolitics, everything happens, but how this is formalized, well, you’re probably used to it , dmitry, to a higher level. style of carrying out big politics on the part of the americans, they really stayed at some level for a long time, but now it’s postmodern , so one doesn’t sleep, the other forgets words, communicates with spirits there, and this does not interfere with the fact that the power lines of geopolitics are essentially are developing in the same direction, they are just designed now more, more strangely and extravagantly, well,
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of course there is nothing good there, but i understand your logic. here, what i don’t fully understand is how to deal with the american and, more broadly, western readiness to undertake increasingly risky unilateral escalation, in the expectation that russia will not be able or will not dare to respond, on the one hand, this is, of course, a sign , russia’s successes on the battlefield, precisely because the ukrainian offensive failed, in washington, in brussels, they are less predicting the imminent victory of ukrainian weapons, they are thinking more about how to find other means to put pressure on russia, including terror, including weakening
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russian internal situation, including the latest, from my point of view, completely irresponsible threat that denmark will check russian tankers, and obviously, it is assumed that if these tankers do not have western insurance, they will be stopped, turned around or even simply captured, but the idea western insurance, why is this so important, because this insurance can be obtained in the west in europe. only if you sign an obligation not to bring oil that costs more than $60, that is, for the price beyond the limit that the european union has set for russia in order to reduce russian energy revenues, but no gates can be climbed, this is piracy, and russia can send
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its military ... ships, and of course, i would like to hope that this will bring the other side to reason, but you yourself understand that this is not a situation that normal people create voluntarily, but this is what the european union is talking about now, so i want to understand what russia can and should do so that this trend, this appetite for one-sided... i think that as from the very beginning of a special military operation , we have only one goal, one measure, this is victory in ukraine, which will prove to the whole world that it is impossible to deal with russia in this way, any, any attempt to start, directly open another new front in confrontation with
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the west, in my opinion, would simply be completely unnecessary, now the west is certainly shifting its attention away from ukraine, yes, it is trying to hurt us, yes, it is trying to somehow sting us again, but a horizon is opening up before us, a completely new one, for the first time for all all the time of maintaining ours, the horizon of victory, we are finally beginning to imagine that if this help not only disappears, but if it simply decreases significantly, even by a smaller number than is now being discussed, then it will open up completely... . a chance to achieve a real victory to strengthen ourselves as an independent, full-fledged and sovereign pole, this, in my opinion, is the most important thing, tankers, economic sanctions, bans on entering or leaving with our numbers, other insults to russia, a wave of russophobia, we we have already seen all this, how many
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sanctions are already just laughing, it has exceeded several thousand, and we are standing, we are standing, a new new partner has opened in the person of great humanity outside the western world, let our tankers go to other recipients, for this tanker . get out of the baltic sea? well, we are good, there is, like other seas, but it would be a significant limitation, it is, we probably can’t do anything about it, the west has cut us off, so i think for a long time, so if we wait, when will they remove sanctions, when will they let us into europe, when will they return the seized assets there, it’s better to think that they will never, maybe they will return, maybe they will let us in, but more rationally, more intelligently, simply realistic... never, that’s all, we got through this, we we are starting a new, new stage of existence in a world without the west, what do we have left, let's see, there is a lot left, the same china, india, the islamic world,
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africa, latin america, we have a lot of things, and a lot of seas left, and a lot there are transport corridors left that no one gives us closed is not going to close if we conduct our policy competently, but it’s time to say goodbye to the west, focus on victory and simply build... our russian world, which is our future. in fact, the west is doing us, providing us with an incredible service, with this kind of action , it excommunicates us, frees us, withdraws its poison, removes its value pressure, so that it does not later try to carry it out inside the country if we have a firm and patriotically oriented society, then no attempts it will simply not be possible to blow up the country, to seduce an entire generation, because we... we will be confident in ourselves and we will win. you know, with the failure of the ukrainian offensive, with the possibility that ukraine will lose american aid, or that this aid
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will be significantly reduced, i cannot rule out that the ukrainian resistance will collapse, just as the american resistance collapsed a couple of years ago in afghanistan. i can't do this. exclude, on the other hand, i’m somehow used to thinking like a historian.
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