tv PODKAST 1TV November 17, 2023 1:30am-2:16am MSK
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[000:00:00;00] you see, great, it means i did everything right, that we have reached a new leaf in this case, well, you are happy, yes , suddenly, you understand that you seemed to be doing all this not for yourself, yes, but this will not change your life, but when you see the results of your labors, your investments, your lack of freedom, you can’t just leave for a week without agreeing that someone will water them, right, yes, this is not freedom, by the way, this is terrible lack of freedom, but you enjoy it, it’s interesting, but the flowers are standing still and waiting for me, with people, unfortunately this is impossible, they will wither if you don’t look after them, or they will get mozzies, sergey, maybe he just didn’t love, well, there are doubts, but from a scientific point of view, love is a little different, let’s say, if refer to frome, he clearly describes different types of love not only for a woman, neurotic, for god, for children, for a mother, there are scientific clear criteria,
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let's say, yes, that erich frome - who wrote a lot about love and about emotions from a scientific point of view for everyone art the work and art of love is there too, we won’t list everything now, but this includes caring for another, when a person loves, he thinks about the object of his love, this is not his duty, he just wants to give this person something about him, this is one of the criteria, if there is no such need, well, there are still some criteria, this is already a doubt, even if a person says that he loves, well, from a scientific point of view, there are already questions here and we can doubt, yeah, that is it turns out that if i don’t want to give something to a person, then most likely i won’t i love you, most likely you use it, my dear, but who said that i don’t give anything to a person, because you, i don’t remember this,
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then i made a mistake and i want to say that you can already give a person not only some financial needs, yes, although in this regard there were no problems with this either, that is, i really love to please people and it brings me wild pleasure, for example, giving gifts and choosing, making some surprises, this brings me great pleasure, but what important, it is important for me to see a bright emotion, that is when i see that a person is very happy, then it’s some kind of important moment for me to see and... that is, the story is again about you, yes, you give something, you need to see that the person is very happy about it , yes, it expresses emotion, your dafabines begin to release all sorts of other neurotransmitters that are responsible for the anticipation of joy, joy, yes, different mechanisms are triggered, physiologically you experience pleasure,
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but you would like more. how do you build relationships, of course, you don’t think that our relationship here in our company has turned into an argument, natalya says something, i sometimes say something, and you seem to be opposing us, what do you think on this topic? well , there is such a small impression, even as we sit, okay, but are you generally inclined to argue, is this how you arrange relationships? i like to prove my point of view, my mother always - they don’t like this trait of mine that i will - always push with arguments, until the person says, i have nothing to say here, but it seems to me that this is how the argument is built, that you share your arguments, you either agree, find some kind of compromise, or both disagree, that there are also norms, but at the same time, i don’t think it’s okay to argue when you just say
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your arguments in a calm tone, that this is... somehow unconstructive, but what would you like to get as a result of a dispute with us? but in an argument, i would like to understand that somewhere i am wrong, in order to cover up this gestalt of mine, it turns out that, yes, i can have a relationship in some near future, here is natalia’s metaphor, my links to authorities, well, for me, at least, and as i understand it, for you, it’s not the arguments that didn’t convince you; it’s not of course an argument, but the question is that - i can understand all this, yes, but to feel it, to understand, well, that’s what i said famous philosopher, this is a metaphor, yes, super, but how can i feel it inside and apply it in practice, when for some extent, i stop feeling it, it’s just as if these are not
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thoughts, but feelings. sergey, maybe there are people in general who are not given this gift - such a giving muscle, such love, and maybe nikita just suffers from the fact that he doesn’t...’ fits into some social stereotype and thinks, well, i’m somehow not like that, i don’t have a long-term relationship, girls bore me, in general such people can how to be, nevertheless nikita described himself as an empathetic person and who gives a lot, nevertheless he loses interest, i understood everything correctly, yes, then i will again return to where we started, the limitations that are the desires of another, uh-huh, person and it’s as if due to the fact that you are losing interest, yes, while you were talking, i thought that maybe this empathy for everyone, and then in a relationship i want to somehow
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compensate for this by saying that, well, it’s time to talk about myself think, maybe i was looking for this corner, when you don’t have to think about others for a long time, that is, because it’s true, in my work, this is a very important... part, because if you don’t feel the person in the frame, you won’t get what - a beautiful picture from this, that is , you constantly take this resource from yourself, because you constantly need, you present to us your relationship, we, of course, look at the situation through your eyes, yes, definitely, we can think about how you like your girlfriend, well, at least the one with whom you had a relationship for 2 years, imagine, yeah, that’s it, what we know about her, how you present her to us, she is such a rather... unpleasant type, she only shows her desires, she doesn’t care about you, well, in general, apparently she doesn’t care about you very much either , and loves, and the way you
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introduced her to us, she’s not even with you for company i want to take it, yes, i don’t want to take it, i need to take a break from her, yes, yes, she’s some kind of person, apparently, well, this is due to the context, yes, apparently she’s kind of obsessive, you need to take a break from her, maybe she’s joking somehow awkward in front of your friends, well, you have to be embarrassed by her, and you presented us with such an image of a rather unpleasant person, i don’t agree that i tried to give some such image, because it absolutely does not correspond with reality, but i feel that loves me more, and i am in the position of someone who allows me to love, and this is about the feeling of that i said that he does not love, but an unpleasant person, no, very pleasant. and i am probably more comfortable with this person than anyone else when we are alone, but when not for a long time, so i
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am interested in this person, but we have completely different interests, that is, we are rather mostly fixated more on our relationships, rather than on some of our common hobbies, interests, and so on, what do you mean? to sort things out, that’s what you think , let’s talk about why you and i tire each other out, that’s what you do all the time speaking and pronouncing, this is useful by the way, but if in the world, we often talk about this, because i also think it ’s useful, but this is of course such a difficult stage , it has become just such a center of your communication and clarifying the relationship, how to treat a friend, at this moment we are very interested in this dialogue, they are both very interested together, and when it becomes something... well, it’s good for us to go somewhere together, watch a movie together at home, eat delicious food, and i feel maximum comfort next to this person, and this is my safety zone, that is, such an island
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where everything is good, plus or minus, but then you feel the boredom of this, that’s how to combine it, you want passion, some kind of surprises, yes high emotions, everything. and you expect this from a girl, that she should somehow create these emotions for you? no, it seems to me that this should be something, it should charge me, something for me to do , let’s say some actions, the universe, who will charge you, the person next to you, well after all, it’s from her, what is your expectation from her, that she will somehow hook you up, that this is a common contact, yes it will be, but it’s somehow lost on us, this is a podcast, together with doctor of medical sciences, psychotherapist sergei kolov , we are solving the difficult situation of our hero nikita koryakin, i will return again to the understanding of freedom and
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your desires, i never thought from a different perspective that you are a slave to your desires, and not a free person, good, good, yes, interesting, rap of your desires , well, on this topic...' i really need to think about it, because i don’t feel like i’m yes, they are controlled by my desires, that is, i can approximately, which does not concern relationships , again, everything that concerns the other part of life, it suits me very much and i feel like a very happy person, but there are such sad evenings, moments when you you understand that something is missing in life, you attach great importance to the development of yourself as an individual, yes, well, i don’t know what your concept of personality and personal development is, but science believes that development is something overcoming within oneself, including one’s own desires, including i can also refer to
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many. well, take my word for it, this is overcoming some of your desires, limitations, including, for you in this story, i deliberately asked some questions before it is considered if you do not overcome something within yourself, your internal limitations, and some external ones, if you don’t somehow adapt to them, your personality begins to degrade, yeah. this applies to relationships, relationships with yourself, but this also applies to relationships with any person, including a girl, if you don’t make any effort you apply, everything is only according to your desire, yeah, then the development of relationships should not happen, however, as well as personalities, yes, but in any case, this is, if we are talking about relationships, yes, i agree here that i rather feel like some - a position that is comfortable for me, so that i don’t have to change much
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, think about something, yes, okay, but there is another side, and for me, this is my profession, where i have to change a lot, very, so how i have a freelance job and you are always responsible only for you, you don’t have a boss, you always have to lead your life, you i have to negotiate about shooting, communicate with people , that is, it’s a rather uncomfortable life in this case, you want to say, there ’s a different nikita, in a relationship, becomes somehow different, that is, there’s one story, but here it’s completely, who only wants so that his desires are satisfied, nikita , i have an association when a person wants, i want this, i want that, it doesn’t seem like children behave this way, then if this hypothesis can be true, that i that's just what
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i kind of want, then you're not looking for in a relationship partnership stories, you are looking for your mother, and she, and the girl doesn’t know about this, she thinks that we have a man, well, look how personable you are, well, right, so i saw, and natalia right away, well, it’s a real match, yes , in my youth, they would have caught you, we called it using live bait, that is , the girls will be interested in exhibiting there this time, and then the friends will get it, or something? as it were, and you begin to be offended, but she has no idea, maybe even i don’t really hide it, in fact, that is, i’m super kind i’m a gentle person, and i won’t be very masculine in relationships, this, i don’t consider this some kind of mine.
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for myself, i’m probably even proud of this somewhere, but the problem is that yes, there is some kind of appearance, most likely, at the beginning of a relationship, people expect something different from me, and even at some point i thought shave off this beard, because appearance in my case is really deceiving, that is, i don’t feel like some kind of giant who will understand everything, that is , me, but how do you react if a person... having become enchanted by you, he may become disappointed in you, that he is an opportunist, buys it, and then it turns out that this is not at all how you react to disappointment? i don’t remember this, to be honest, that is, the girl continues to be deceived, probably, right? not a fact, but what is your version? that he begins to lose interest in her and leave them so that they do not become disappointed in him, this is a fear that when a rapprochement occurs, he might say, oh yes , i thought he, oh, but he, and this may be
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an underlying fear, nikit, it may be very scary that she will be disappointed, then your the defense will abandon her first, well, in any case , i don’t feel this understanding in myself, because one way or another, kindness does not mean being soft, yes, there, don’t hit everyone in the face, i apologize. this doesn’t mean that you’re a weakling, yes, i’m just finding other solutions, i’ll comment on what seems to be happening now, it looks like it’s not just an argument, but you ’re already making excuses to me, there’s such a thing, i hear. some thought of yours that does not coincide with reality, in my understanding, in this case i need to tell you where you are wrong? sergey how since it very accurately reformulates what you are saying, because it is you who are saying that i really, well, i want someone like this, so that i give all my best to everyone, i want to
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be taken care of, i am so defenseless, fragile and so vulnerable, that ’s how we heard it, maybe there’s some question of yours... the presentation is really in some kind of conflict. sergey, what if nikita started a relationship with a girl who was older than him, who would be similar, maybe, to his mother, yes, you are probably in a very warm relationship with your mother, with yours, i i think yes? i think it’s not a matter of the age of a girl or a woman, it all depends on her character, she may be younger than him, but if she has strong inner, maternal needs, that is, to take care, entertain, introduce people to circles, organize a holiday, well, what else do mothers do there, entertain, so that the child is interested, then this is not literally yes, it may not be a holiday, but a trip somewhere, i don’t know, to the sea, for example, dear, we have a surprise , yes,
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well, well, as an option, it seems that we have come to why, the first time they didn’t argue with us and didn’t say, but maybe the girl just didn’t... yes, i think for a long time, maybe it’s a habit, but no matter how we don’t see each other for six months, it’s still ours, when we met, everything is the same the same thing is seething inside, the desire to be with this person, well, that is, after all, you are not so bored with her, if six months later you meet her and your heart begins to beat, yes, yes, yes, next to her, there is a seething inside, that is it hasn’t gone anywhere for 2 years now and no matter how many times we break up, it’s there all the time, all the time i’m... overtaken by this feeling: there is an erotic male part, there is another, it can be called differently, a child’s part, there is some kind of infantile part with its own needs, it looks like they are in conflict inside you and you can’t with them, ball to the right, the ball to the left, and maybe
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this is one of the main problems, in a smart word, this is called splitting, this is the psyche, this is a defense mechanism, what to do? there are technologies that should lead, well, to integration, yeah, we are all, we are by nature dual and peace dual, we live in it like this, there is definitely nothing good, nothing bad, you can look at it this way, you can look at it that way, but usually , if you believe in philosophy, the opposite parts fight in their unity and develop a person, and they force you to remain in a dead end at one place, you have no relationship. sergey, please tell me, this work, it is exclusively for nikita, and it doesn’t matter what kind of woman it will be, whether this woman or another, or what is called family or partner joint therapy, i would recommend first individually, nikita first
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needs to deal with herself, and with her own, for example, directly opposite tendencies , one wants intimacy, the other wants freedom and so that everything will be as... i also want my mother not to show any of her desires, but she that part is you, they are both really important, but it is important to understand and integrate them, manage them, yeah, i really agree with this, because i feel in myself, maybe even some three sides, yes , parental, i definitely have some needs for something serious, too, and there is also such... a student-party-goer, for whom it is important to feel that you are still young, still ahead, that’s what i thought about, that when i enter into a serious relationship, it’s like i’ve reached the end of my own, this one here is a bright, cheerful life, here are these three aspects, they probably need to be somehow
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mixed into one lump and made friends. well, friends, we saw such a complex nikita, who is a little confused not in... relationships, but for now, or already in himself, i hope that something has become clearer to you, where lies the plane of your real freedom, where should you dream? yes, rowing was very interesting, thank you, it was a podcast of the psyche and we, together with our expert, clinical psychologist, doctor of medical sciences, sergei kolov, analyzed the situation, nikita koryakin, who at 26 years old is trying to understand what he really wants , from a relationship with a girl. hello, dear friends, in the beautiful
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ancient russian city of pereslav el zalestki on yaroslavl land, the festival pilot become a legend was held, and there i met twelve-year-old nikita varentsov from the city yaroslavl. look what a genius, 12 years old, just like all of us in childhood. dreamed of looking like this, i couldn’t help but invite him to meet you, nothing good can come of a person who in childhood didn’t want to be a pilot, b, a beatle, everything came together for nikita at the age of 12, a festival dedicated to aviation, but gave him the opportunity to stand on stage with a guitar, gentlemen, just think, everything that you will hear now was written by him himself, this is the trick, not only will there be another... one extremely important figure for our meeting, but about this after. look, what a bright-eyed , handsome yaroslavl man, and gentlemen, remember
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him like this, he will still say his own, but for now nikita varentsov greets you with his first song, success. 7 minutes by taxi, stupid if you walk, without calling, sorry, i’ll explain everything later, put it on, it’s warmer, the hands are always in a hurry, press play, it’s almost sunset, up the steps higher and higher, we go up to the roof, the whole city is butted for us , being together is a good reason, you and i... closer, closer, just the two of us on this roof, the city lies under our
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sneakers, you will get all the answers, i squeeze palm, you look into my eyes , there is a fire in my heart, you kindled it yourself, everything i tell you is out of place and absurd, i only remember the height, vanilla. the sky, up the steps higher and higher, we rise to the roof, the whole city is under the hood, being together is a good reason, you and i are closer, closer, just the two of us on this roof, the city lies under our sneakers, you will get all the answers, and when a hundred thousands of windows will be reflected, before i take your palm, i will inhale your scent,
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draw this scene in roles, if you want, there is no place for words, i steal your kiss, your kiss, your kiss, we will rise higher, you are my inspiration, our moblan is the roof, without darkness, the last sunshine. it’s better in the end of this day, quietly ask in my ear, do you love me? yes, russia, i don’t see your hands, yes, well, you don’t, because they are on the other side of the tv, well, you see, varentsov, gentlemen, here is another figure that we talked about from the very beginning, without which the song would be, yes and nikita would not have happened, this is andrey varentsov, please love and favor, that’s who is with the car of these songs, andrey, hello, hello, well
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tell us how it all started, it all started very simply, but there was a pandemic, times were hard , there was unexpectedly a lot of free time, and at first we decided , like many, to make all sorts of comic songs on this topic, and then an idea came to mind , in order to make a song with which he had not yet... been able to perform, he is engaged in pop vocals in yaroslavl, and there was no song of his own, so my mother said, shouldn’t your dad shake off the old days and help his son with something, stop, stop, stop, andryusha, so mom, that means, that means your mother is a producer, but here the matter is different, in the old days, which means you played in an ensemble at school, you didn’t play in an ensemble, but you wanted to, of course, this is your revenge for the injustice of fate, yes, i think every
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child has a father's revenge to some extent, dmitry, trample. and if i didn’t want to play your songs on pernikit, i always told him this, that is, if you don’t like it, just say, i don’t like it, and then okay, that’s it, but you liked playing the songs, of course, why did you like it, because dad played sometimes, i remember as a child, dad always played me songs on the guitar and i had a toy guitar with keyboards, so i played along with something, then my dad suggested to me at the age of 7, let’s go see how did you understand that your son has the right pitch, that he can hit the notes?
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in the hostel, then hiking, songs around the fire, girls. not to be, so i realized that it was necessary, well, that is, in life you need this, i wanted the scene not only a fire, of course, of course , i thought, dreamed, but it’s still not for me, maybe he’ll succeed, fantastic, so what responsibility do you have, rage . varentsov, a well-known, respected family, look, these kisses, they have songs there, you know , what is it, they have underbeds there, why do they go to the roof or something, you wrote this together, yes, well, what kind part of the song was written by you, which nikita, the majority was written by me, nikita, i came up with a lot of the music, this is what i suggested
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here's how to move from tonality to tonality. well, that is, he has a greater musical component in him than in me, you also sit and work on the word together, you ask, how do you like it? but necessarily, that is, we work together, he watches, always corrects if he doesn’t like something , of course, because the ancestor is a cord, what can he understand, but his time has already passed, yes, yes, his time has passed, what, no, you meant to say, who are we listening to? now everything is different, yes or no, no, he knows what he’s saying, this kid is ready for life, well, the next song, as it was written, is the song from the red line, the song is a continuation of this song, 7:40, with which he participated in the junior eurovision and was a finalist in the junior
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eurovision, and since he participated in for the first time at such a large scale event, and there were a lot of impressions, a lot of emotions, a lot of thoughts, about the present day, about the future day, this is a certain reflection, about an important event, a significant event in life, here is the song from the red line, here we will now hear what nikita varentsov thinks, yaroslav, i start the day with a red line and the uneven structure of blue letters creeps onto the sheet, maybe this is serious, or maybe i’m just playing like a spotlight on the velvet of closed wings,
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happened, never happens in vain, all over the world, i know. always leaves a mark, there are many meetings ahead, and distances are not scary, drive harder, at the turns of fate, but i know the recipe for making all wishes come true, a bright light in the sky, a once fallen star. of all the things that happen in the world, i will roll up a little,
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the warmth of meeting friends and the pre-dawn silence, so that mom can smile more often, and dad can still play chish in the car. well, this is where our mother made her voice heard. now we ’ll talk about it, but i promise you, i’ll definitely show you this song so that daddy can’t it means that mom’s smile and chish are such synonymous things, mom is the very person who should have besieged
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dad and said, so, let nikita sit and teach mathematics, because now only it specialists, there are the most promising people in the world and lawyers, these will always be promising, so let them not... some of them put a lawyer’s diploma here, then let him play his guitar as much as he wants, at the fire in the dorms, but my mother didn’t do that, on the contrary, she began to encourage your studies , yes? yes, yes, and now she’s unraveling, that’s all , you can’t see her, she’s standing there, because mom is a producer here, please tell me, well, here you are with mom, what’s her name? elena, you and lena met, fell in love with each other and under the starry sky, now... i know in yaroslavsky with the fire you dreamed of this nikita , and of course you thought that there would be a singer, yes , you told leni that, no, you didn’t , because whether there would be a singer or not, it was still
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unclear, well, when in the maternity hospital they are so small and terribly beautiful, and when a person grows up and begins to behave demonstratively... to lead there , to sing at random, to knock on pots there, it is clear that a person needs a stage, he needs music, and we tried several timid attempts at sports, sports did not work out, but the music started, well, that means this is his path, let him follow this path, sklif is a legend. since the time of count sheremetyev, all the modern successes of the institute are based on the history that it had, an experiment on humans, people are at risk. the chief neurosurgeon of the russian federation compared
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sklifosovsky institute with an aircraft carrier, that is , this is a machine that is constantly in operation, which allows you to implement everything that has been done according to science directly into clinical practice. we have the most experience in the world in treating multiples. that is, when more than one posture is broken, there are several of them, anastasiologists, the magatovs, the world champion in bodybuilding, the germans turned him around, twirled him and said, take him to russia, i ’ve been to many such medical institutions, this is the humanity that he has specialist, i have never met her anywhere, the doctors pulled me out of the other world, i thank them every time, they succeeded, i succeeded, we all succeeded, the institute... from the klifosovsky century of mercy premiered on sunday on the first.
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this is an anthropology podcast, on the first one, our guest is nikita varentsov, with a guitar , by the way, you know how it is, to whom am i telling this , you know how they cut the strings, fingers, it hurts, yes, i did this many times i went through this, so, but then like all music. fingers become strong, yes, yes, yes, here, come on next, what we’ll listen to now, the next song is the song of copernicus , i suggested... nikita this fantasy, how a young astronomer could talk about his feelings - with the help of astrophysics, we often say, there is my sun, my sun, i appeal to his beloved, yes, that is, but for an astronomer this is a cosmic body, so thinking about this, this song was born, and i wrote the verses, and asked nikita to write the chorus, i couldn’t do it for a long time, here’s his chorus, that’s why exactly this his? chorus, you will hear
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now, come on, come on, straight, don't be patient, let's listen, you are my sun, i admitted, on monday, i became gilio citrichen, i am nicola, copernicus, and in captivity of these eyes, stavsky, i fell into orbit, your gravity, i breathe the atmosphere, the warm light bathed there, the whole world before you, beyond the event horizon, words in your head, bringing
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convocation. stepctyrs, asteroids, pulsars, and black holes, extinguished, there with you, with ourselves, incomparable, we are the beginning of everything, we are part of this universe , on yes, well, this is true, he came out with his son, played, comrade, a dream came true, and you know, it would probably
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- that is, you will probably have it if you also spend time, but by the way, spend time on something that brings money, and if you take care of your son, you don’t waste it, but invest it, that’s what now andryusha has received dividends, an opportunity on channel one, well, when would we invite him, otherwise please, he even has the opportunity to play on the first channel like your favorite chish, he also sat and played, you know? yes, yes, yes, lucky, my son helped, well, we naturally have to ask who nikita listens to, who he loves, what does it mean to him when there is no guitar in his hands, rest for his ears, what do you like, in general i listen to different music, and also russian, foreign, if from foreign, probably freddie mercury, maybe from russian, i recently discovered the group, i don’t know why... i didn’t notice it before,
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brothers grim, i really like their song kusturica, i generally listen to a lot of different music, you mentioned seryozha chigrakov, chish, but here’s the story, basically we need songs when we fall in love, but this is the shortest, most laconic way to describe what we feel, well is there anyone in the class who you like, no, well, not in the class, at school, well, not at school, but there is, there is, there is, is it you? walk around yaroslavl together, yes, or your parents take you away, you don’t even have someone to go anywhere, but no, why are we walking around the city of yaroslavl, it’s very beautiful there, in the center of the city, yes. there is not only the volga, there is also an interesting arrow with the volga, this is a river with the funny name kotorcel, yes, yes, yes, of course, there is where to take a walk, and with such a mind, preserved or recognized, that’s that ancient beauty, but even so, modern urbanism
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is obvious, now we’ll listen about yaroslav, yes, every person has a place where he feels good, and my song is about this, let’s listen, let’s. this is a song about my favorite city, time passes quickly, accelerating its pace, and we play with it, we grow and mature, we search, we dream, without having time to look back, we run further, but from the hot pores and banal truths, happiness, a secret, the heart found, how cool, fate, did not abandon me, i
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always return, where i feel good, where, where to me, where, where to me, uh, where, where to me, where, where to me, where, on, where the squares, parks, fountains on the arrow, in the planets, stars, in the arena the game, volkovsky is waiting for us, a new season, waiting at... meetings, meetings until the morning, they'll tell me about it, pine trees in the bar, my slumber, green
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guards along the water's edge, having rolled up my pants, i'm going on the sand on the tverin beach, even if it is impossible to understand with your mind, measure kilometers, yards, how your heart beats, how your lips are silent, having experienced the beauty of the central russian plain, everything is from far and away, it was so, it will be so for a long time, on two banks stands mine roslavl, the river cuts, my wolf, where, where
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