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elimination of koch has. great political significance, but is it worth risking such a valuable agent to eliminate koch? based on real events. a true intelligence officer must be ready for anything. razor blade. premiere of a multi-part film, soon on the first. he is the enemy, you fell in love with him, like a cat, you get pleasure. you are watching the podcast triggers with you its leading psychologist tatyana krasnovskaya psychologist psychotherapist sergei nasebyan we are talking with pavel about his big goal about new approaches to its implementation, well, probably the most important thing is that where to get confidence in your own goals in your own strengths and achievements. look, it turns out that our family is like
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a pride, within which there is a hierarchy. and being born the youngest, you are a priori the youngest, that is, the last, if your mother had given birth to four more boys after you, then you probably wouldn’t be talking to us about this now, but it turns out that it’s as if you have no one , over whom you could triumph simply by virtue of your birth, in fact, by right of your birth, second, third there, it doesn’t matter, yes, and you always wanted, well, this is normal, when you want to challenge, challenge your older brother, challenge your father, this... well, it’s like an ordinary male game, here the question arises: this as if you will never win the battle without buying an apartment, without buying a car, without buying a car, it doesn’t matter, you still always remain the youngest in this family, but the fear is that if i suddenly declare now, i will get angry at that moment, accordingly, doubts from my father and from my older brother, well, now i i’ll exaggerate this situation, that is, if i come and say, i’m now in charge in the family,
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respectively, dad and... they even present a picture, everyone turns around, what? who is older here? then you will have to resist, as of course, at this moment you have to resist , and of course, it’s good if in the family they give such an opportunity, well, as a rule they don’t, here then it’s scary, let’s talk about this fear, what kind of fear , when your older brother and dad look at you, so to speak, and you say that i don’t know there, i read better than anyone, suppose, or i... better write everyone or am i the best dancer, and they question it, well , for that matter, i think that, in principle, i don’t remember cases when my father supported me in something, maybe this is how my psyche works, that she erased it, but for some reason it doesn’t occur to me that my father said there, you got a b , well done, it was like that, you got a b, why not an a, that is, i didn’t even
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have... any reason to say that i was a child star, but i just told you, no reasons are needed, the question here is what you don’t need to look for a reason, here is the ability to defend it, well, because having bought an apartment, in the end this apartment will turn out to be a little smaller than someone else’s, the area is a little worse, a little further from the center, i don’t know, the ceilings are lower and so on , that is, anyway, in comparative categories you will not buy the best apartment in moscow, even if you buy it, in 2 days someone else will buy an even better apartment, having built it. again it won’t manifest itself in any way, that’s what allowed you, tell me to say, i’m a star, you had the support of your parents, it allowed, allows, i agree, yes, it allowed, yes, i didn’t think about it, yes, but they still supported you, now it’s clear, of course, now everyone supports you, i can’t say that my family was very supportive in this sense, it’s a matter of decision, a question of internal decision, when you suddenly realize that you don’t need
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any conditions. well, what should you rely on? you must understand that you will stand, what allowed you to think that you will stand? well, now we are exaggerating a lot when we say that i. then i realized it was me now i can, leaning back, understanding what i’m doing now, when i say that i’m a star , it’s a willingness to be left alone, well , because being a star alone is easy, well , this is the fear i have, yeah, although, how it’s not funny, i’ve basically done everything lately to be alone, and now i’ve come to this point, but what is this loneliness, the emptiness of absence? for support, but at the same time it is otsu, yes, but at the same time it is the absence of criticism, because of this you become alone, because you are running away from a relationship in which you can be criticized, yes, but support is more important, it covers criticism,
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how should this support be expressed? in accepting me as i am, and - let’s say, if i want to be something and manifest myself in some way, accepting this fact that i can be like this, it turns out that they still don’t accept it, yes, you know , i read a book a long time ago, this is a book that was written, in my opinion, by an american woman, a doctor, she spent 6 months - in the desert along with, respectively, a tribe aborigines in australia, here she describes their life, and these are people who have no, almost no speech, they are very very simplified... their speech is not written, well, that is, they live right at the level of the primitive communal structure, practically and she describes these six months of living with them and she was surprised by this fact, in contrast to the cultures familiar to her
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, in which she grew up, which she studied, and she means there is a doctor and also an anthropologist to some extent, she discovered an interesting pattern , in the morning the tribe wakes up, to move on, they constantly wander. for example, some girl gets up and says: today i am the most beautiful in the world, it is clear that the peace of this tribe is concluded by this tribe, yes, she says, today i am the most beautiful in this tribe, she takes some flower, puts it on there in her hair and says: i’m so beautiful, everyone tells her, you’re the most beautiful today, and then after a while someone else wakes up and says, listen, i’m probably the coolest musician in the world, so today i’ll give concert in the evening, and accordingly, what kind of concert is there to beat some kind of drum with bones? yes, everyone agrees with him, they say yes, yes, here you are today, an approximate morning in our house, and in no way does this in any way prohibit someone else from doing the same thing the next morning, that is, there will be no competition in this, just yes, today we are all
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we honor you, it’s great, if only everyone lived like that, but we don’t live like that , we have to prove all the time, declaring that i’m the best pianist, stapler, doctor, i don’t know, translator, psychologist, who whatever, we have to constantly challenge and set aside... but this is a tribe, that’s why they support each other , because they have no competition from outside, they generally don’t care, well, the best musician, great, in what the problem, and here is the same thing, that same loneliness that you talk about as a lack of support, but about a lack of criticism at the same time, in this you need to look for support in your own loneliness, when there are no other people, apartments , there are no other men, no other women, there are only you and your goals, and when you understand that your goals are what you are committed to, then everything else ceases to simply make such sense, but as soon as you give the assessments of others
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more meaning than commitment to your own goal, that’s when you find yourself on a very slippery surface where it will be very difficult to stand, because obviously for you to support yourself, well , the most stable support is a triangle, that is, we need some three...' elements, so let's try to look at them, what do you think can you lean on? well, for example, goals, so, goal, plan to achieve a goal, good, well, my actions, of course, are good, but come on, look, i will, for example, question your goals, and your plans, and your actions, as you will, with me build relationships, well, i can accept the fact that you are subjected to. and accept that if you criticize this, then you don’t believe in me, but let’s assume in yourself that you cannot achieve this, cunningly, but it won’t work with me, it won’t work with me in this
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sense, i i won't take on this part your protection, i can just continue to act, look, you can definitely continue to act, this is a fact, what you will rely on in order to what you can influence, i can isolate myself from you, just of course you can, and moreover, i’m saying that... you’ll have to isolate yourself from me , like from thousands of other people who may doubt your expediency, i don’t know, your correctness or righteousness, sincerity, truth, it doesn’t matter. but there are also, for example, your principles, if, for example, you will rely on your principles, then it will be much easier for you to build a support within yourself that makes up your inner ethos, and not mine, for example, the morality that you take for yourself, i will come to you and say, listen, no one does this, we heard but probably , yes, the expression, it won’t work, no one does that, they don’t buy an apartment that way, well, that is , people will say exactly that, and you accordingly. based on your own principles, you can say, no one has done this
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before me, but i will do it this way, for example, here here a very important aspect is precisely that your actions, yes it depends on you whether to do them or not, your principles, although from which you will do, what third you can come up with, what would become the third such leg on which you can rely on, for example, my achievements, well, that is, some previous experience, yes, that is , the fact that i... achieved something earlier, that is, i can at least repeat it, and if i can repeat this, then i can multiply it and, accordingly , achieve my goal in this way, as an option, in general, yes, well, in life, by the way, this helps me a lot, it’s the fact of past experience, this is the setting, the mood, yes, that is, there are three elements that need to be set up from standing in the center of this tripod, then you can rely on this, you don’t you will need this... if the support of other people, i do not cancel
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the value of support, but waiting for this support is what makes you weak, well, i myself turn out to be shifting, but let’s say actions to achieve the goal to this crooked path, what do i will add strength, what will be said about me it’s good for others to think, and this will help me move towards the goal, but this is not true, this is not true, because if you go around with this to others, show, look what, well, how would you, a priori, automatically give these people the right to judge you, well, just in order to get out of this scenario, you need to understand why , why interrupt, how you are hindering yourself, we already understood how you can achieve, we also already understood why to do it, but the most important driver for me is always was, well, exactly the one that comes from the soul that is as sincere as possible is interest, that is, if i am truly interested in something, then i always achieve it. you said a very important thing at the beginning, you said pleasure, everything
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that is necessary and necessary, i refuse to do it, i sabotage this process, everything that brings pleasure, i achieve it, well, for me these are synonyms, one might say, interest pleasure, that is, everything that is interesting to me, it a priori brings me pleasure, which means i need to find my pleasure in achieving these goals don’t work out of necessity, they only work out of what i want. you are watching the podcast triggers with you, its leading psychologist tatyana krasnovskaya, psychologist, psychotherapist sergei nasebyan. we talk with pavel about how to achieve big goals and where to get and draw strength for your own confidence and confidence in your life goals and actions. there is also such a moment that there is also such a phrase in my head: i can’t want, well, that is, i’ve been doing something all my life. essentially for someone in terms of what, let’s say,
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i have a family and i earn money there for the family, yes, there is a large share of my selfishness, i do it all out of my selfishness for the family, but i understand that this is also an unhealthy model, and well, why should you do it for yourself, somehow it works, business for others, well, somehow you move, why for yourself, that’s actually a good question. i don’t have this habit of doing it for myself, well, you get up in the morning, make coffee, for example, or tea, for yourself, that is, there is a habit, but it’s just such a conscious goal setting for yourself, these are the habits, and so you need it make it conscious, look, from such very small elements, because one morning you will wake up and suddenly realize that it turns out to be more important for yourself to drink a glass of warm water in the morning, and not to make coffee, for example, right?
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because coffee is part of a ritual that came from somewhere, let’s say, and a glass of warm water is something that would be good for you, with lemon, i don’t know, with honey, who drinks it, yes, when you will understand, well, first you can start just here, but am i talking about coffee for myself, peter levine has a good one a tool in working with trauma, and before actually starting to self-heal trauma, he writes about it, and he says that first you need to get acquainted with your own feelings and offers such a tool, he says: look at some photograph, well, suppose you and i open a magazine, some kind , which usually publishes very rich, beautiful... successful people, we look at the fact that some blogger bought himself a rolls-royce, what do i, what do you feel looking at what this blogger is sitting in this rolls-royce, you feel, some have joy , some have envy, some have contempt, some have some mixed feelings, he says, as it is
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expressed on tv, well, you somehow you will find this in your body, but then he asks the question, why did you decide that this is your feeling, why did you decide that these are your sensations? this question is a very important bridge through which we move to another way of perception, to a completely different way of perception, we, as it were, thus create a metaposition within which we are able really see whether it’s mine or not, my desire now is to drink coffee, or i just saw an advertisement for coffee yesterday before going to bed, this is my desire to do this or that action, i just think that all successful people drink a glass of warm water in the morning, because i read the top 10 tips from elon musk or someone else, but it’s like, because we don’t even notice how this very internal program is formed, and here, when i give levin’s example, i’m talking
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about that through such doubts, we are slowly establishing a completely different contact with reality, with yourself in this reality, sergey, and you say that the sensation is in the body, and we ask the question: is this sensation in my body, but it is in my body, yes, at least it seems so to you, this is exactly where, no, look, this is not a medicine, this is not, uh, a placebo, not an obvious healing, yes, this is something through which we establish a new contact that did not exist before, now you say, this is my feeling in my body, and you are very convinced of this, and i , so to speak, relying on levin, propose you will doubt this, and perhaps you will see very subtle elements where completely different feelings will appear, but what i really want , that’s what will appear there, that’s where the choice appears, that is, you disidentify with your actions, of course, that’s where it will appear that pavel who can really want, who can
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ask himself the question: am i buying an apartment, for whom , yes of course, how will i feel when i buy it, how will i feel, i recently wrote such a post about that that we very often - we confuse the absence of evidence with evidence of absence, for example, my son says: i will not believe in god until you prove to me that he exists, but neither i nor god need to prove to my son that he exists, but he says, like, you can’t prove to me that it exists , i can’t, but the absence of proof is not the same as proof of absence, when we transfer ourselves into our future, trying to form a vision of achieving a goal, we don’t have proof that the apartment i already have it, and we begin to doubt this, it is in this doubt that the very strings on which we play begin to arise, which cause this deepest uncertainty within us and the reluctance to be disappointed in
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the end forces us to give it up halfway, that is, if i don’t have an apartment , this does not mean that i cannot buy it, but i did not have an apartment, i have never bought... an apartment, but this does not mean at all that i cannot do this, i can face this, but that doesn’t mean that i can’t, you know, there’s a philosophical approach here, in in this sense, when we try to raise this conflict to the level of, well, such a paradox, and here a completely different way of thinking is formed, i think that some smart physiologist or neurologist will be able... your problem, but at least suggest solve it there by taking some medicines or drugs, and dietary supplements there and so on, because i will say , yes, it’s just that you have a lack of, i don’t know, zinc in the blood, so you get tired quickly, this can also be the case, i suggest you look at this from a slightly different side, namely from the one that
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you don’t believe, but when you build these three legs inside yourself, that’s where the faith that moves mountains, as we heard, will be born. i will definitely try this, i have another wall inside , which is very much hindering me, in terms of achieving goals in terms of division for myself, this is what you need to do for others, well, that is, how will you do it for yourself, when there are so many others around who don’t have something, who lack something, and i understand that i ’m making it up myself, that they lack it, and this reaches the point of complete absurdity, and division for others. it’s not something that distracts, it completely switches me into this process depending on appearing good in the eyes of those people for whom, because there you get very quickly. satisfaction, because where people said, it’s cool, of course, it’s a quick, instant nirvana, it’s like
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we drank jupi as a child, thinking it was orange juice, it’s just such a quick element of satisfaction, so if you start doing that, what do we tell you we say, it will turn out that you will disconnect from this perception of fast, fast glucose, fast carbohydrates, but it is always much easier to eat a sweet cake than to eat there. okay, yes, in physiology everything is similar for me, of course , so, this is what we need to do to get to this , that’s why i say, connect your body, precisely by doubting whether it’s mine, is it true i now want to do something for someone else, i am in no way dissuading you from altruism, but i can definitely say that healthy egoism, in general, will force you to make sure that people around you are also happy, because then you will be happy, it just seems to me that you can become a real altruist only when you... can be yourself, satisfy yourself to understand what, what is in this for me, otherwise it is dishonest, well, yes, here we already need to read the holy
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fathers, who, in general , described this many times, that we cannot give if we ourselves are not able to be filled, but in terms of support, so to speak, in at the end of our conversation, i also want to tell you a very interesting phrase that shocked me at one time, you need people’s support, right? and i will ask you a question, how do you support others? good question, if you dig deep, it turns out that i don’t give effective, high-quality support to others, of course, so give what you are looking for, learn to support others, and you won’t notice how suddenly, one fine moment, you are so easy you will support yourself that you will not need others, which is why, in general, all absolutely religions today... of those that we know , call on people, in moments of depression, or some difficult life circumstances,
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to pray for others, because when you start your prayer to direct that others are happy, others are healthy, the very power of your word , your intention becomes so strong that you just need to direct it to yourself, and you will perk up, so give this support to others, learn to support others , and you will be surprised, do not retreat from your goals, to see what is in this achievement in this, when i achieve this goal, what will be in it for me, and at the same time give what this will actually fill, the support of others, it will at some point be filling, such a philosophical program has been formed today, let's make it applied, what is specific? to do, well , i already have a specific goal, i set it, yes, an apartment, i set it a month ago,
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i also have a specific plan for achieving it, great, what are you saying? you will do in the context of our conversation, that is, you need to essentially find three or four people who have the same goal and support them in this, by the way, it’s interesting that this is not the first time in my life i ’ve heard that exactly such a method of achieving a goal, they even suggested to me that somehow find the same people and help them reach this goal. and then you will come to it yourself, that’s how it is, as if some other committed action is needed, dousing yourself with cold water, yes, this is a well-known method, no, but i really there is a committed action for this purpose, i do it every day, then i wish you good luck, yes thank you, i wanted to thank you for the fact that this format of programs, it helps, i don’t know, there are thousands of tens of thousands of people to look at themselves from hand, it helped me a lot, for which thank you for coming. and people can see this, thank you very much, thank you, believe me, and we also look at ourselves from the outside when we talk with our guests, then we discuss how difficult
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it was for our children, well, you watched the podcast triggers with you was its hosts, i am sergey nasebyan and tatyana krasnovskaya, we talked with pavel about achieving the goal and how we can approach this issue differently. hello, this is the schrödinger's cat podcast, and i am its host, grigory tarasevich, editor-in-chief of the popular science magazine schrödinger's cat. and we simply talk about complex scientific things, on the other hand. we talk scientifically about very simple things, and today we will talk about
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a seemingly simple thing like plastic, it is everywhere in furniture, in bags, everywhere, but is it so? is it safe, is it good or vice versa, is it so scary, we have two guests, one guest is the artist yulia che, hello, the other guest is the crane academy, alexey remmovich khakhlov, head of the department of moscow state university, a scientist who studies, among other things, polymers and knowledgeable about plastic from the inside at the molecular level. hello hello. and my first question is a little philosophical: is plastic good or bad? here is alexey raromovich, plastic, of course, is good, the polymer industry has begun to develop about 100 years ago, over these 100 years, the objects surrounding us have changed beyond recognition, if before it was all mostly wood, well, some metals and
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so on, now almost most of the objects that surround us they are made of polymer, plastic or rubber, well, in general, these are also polymer products, and of course, modern life cannot be imagined without plastic products, so this is good, but there is a threat from plastic, there is a threat, because the threat is connected with the fact that over these 100 years so much the polymer industry has developed rapidly, resulting in corresponding waste. plastic, ordinary polyethylene, polypropylene, these are ordinary plastics, they decompose very slowly, so really garbage ones arise, even islands in the ocean, which many are talking about, and this is a really big problem, because pollution occurs, including pollution of the aquatic environment, and of course, this is a problem in this
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sense, and it needs to be dealt with. before i ask julia a question, i want...' to draw attention to these art objects that you probably now you see on the screen, they were created by yulia ch, and created from plastic, which we, alas, are accustomed to throwing away, yulia, you create your works from plastic, how do you feel about plastic, does it not seem somehow hostile, lifeless to you, no, of course , for years i have been closely engaged in design, according to the principle of upcycling, this is the reuse... of old things, initially it was old jewelry, old clothes, even dishes that were already out of order, i created clothes, accessories, art objects from these things ,
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and one day, accordingly, a photographer friend of mine, who is not indifferent to the problem of ecology, asked me , yulia, would you like to make clothes and hats from plastic, from used goods, from garbage, yes, somehow this word is garbage, for i’m a little scared, so i prefer used plastic, she says, and we can subsequently organize a filming on the topic of ecology, so that the viewer will pay attention to the problem of sorting plastic waste, so i thought and decided, why not, that’s been the case ever since of course, i made clothes and accessories, we did more than one shoot, and in the process i realized, yes, this is such an interesting material that it suits me, i just now get great pleasure, for me even
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my friends are interested, friends , friends, some acquaintances are already going to the plastic bag, they are handing it over to me, i have a question now for both of you, look, while i was walking, i found several plastic bags in my pocket, yeah, those classic ones, plastic, probably yes , bags that he produces in the millions, billions industry, well, i’ll put something in them, maybe i’ll buy something, put it there or use it for garbage, but what will be their fate next, alexey ramovich, what will happen? what happens to him with this bag? most likely, this bag will eventually end up in a landfill, what should the landfill do with it, nothing, it needs to be buried in the ground, so to speak, and it will gradually decompose, in principle, despite the fact that the decomposition time is very long, but nevertheless it is there, it is of course, well, it will
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gradually become smaller, become the particles from which this bag is made are becoming smaller and smaller, some of these particles will be washed out by groundwater into rivers and then into the ocean, this is really so, but how much? it will take years, it will take hundreds of years, hundreds of years, that is, we have not yet realized , that is, since the polymer industry began to develop 100 years ago, we have not yet realized the full scale of the problems, that is, in 500 years this bag will be in the pacific ocean, well, piece by piece, yes, yes, some pieces from this bag they will find themselves, well, in a quiet, well, some kind of ocean, yes. yes, it is somehow possible to recycle it in order to reuse it, well, polyethylene does not lend itself very well to such recycling, but there
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, say, polyethylene terephtholate, from which plastic bottles are made, as they call it, it is quite recyclable, well, it can be recycled up to ten times, which is why even in moscow there are... special containers where these bottles can be put, and polytape can be subjected to rephtholate recycling, and there is no problem here if i am carrying a bottle, or i need to tear off the label, wash it off the glue , well, it is advisable, so to speak, to remove the cap, because the cap is made of polyethylene, and that is, these are different substances, yes, that is, therefore, separately they collect the bottles, separate the caps, but this is done there, even if you just throw it away, it will already be done at the factory where they produce... recycled polyethylene terephtholate, and this is a valuable raw material, because polyethylene can be recycled many times, in general, in
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principle , polymer is a valuable energy source raw materials, among other things, so there are incinerators that produce electricity as a result of burning plastic waste, and now there are catalysts that, well , practically lead to the fact that the environment is not... that is, really look, the situation is this, the life cycle of a polymer material, any such that it will ultimately end up either in a landfill, or it will end up in an incinerator, or, unfortunately, as is done in many countries, just a truck loaded into the ocean, all the garbage, instead to bring it into the landfill and... because of this, such huge garbage islands arise in the ocean, all this recycling, waste sorting, it can only delay a little, and then so to speak,
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in limited quantities, the moment when the polymer will either end up in a landfill, or in a waste incineration plant, or in the ocean, that is, if i throw it into a fire, it won’t be very good, because there’s a lot of harmful emissions, even from a small bag. now garbage plants in russia allow you to burn this one a bag, get energy and not pollute the air, yes, of course, well, we bought quite a lot of garbage plants in europe, in fact, there are places next to garbage plants, housing, it is more expensive, because electricity is cheaper, it is supplied by burning garbage, this energy supplies the surrounding houses, and until recently, say, the scandinavian countries simply bought plastic waste from russia, even so, yes,
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so in principle, well, we have built waste incineration plants that work quite well and do not throw away nothing in air, well, is released, but a minimal amount, well, minimal - this is how dangerous, not dangerous, no. well, i’m telling you, here in the center of vienna there is a waste incineration plant , well, no one is protesting, julia, now i have a question for you, look, it’s an ordinary white bag, i’ll rustle a little so that the audience can feel the familiar sound, here it inspires you as an artist to do something, of course it does, i can’t say right away that i see the package in your hands, i know what i ’ll make of it, no, i have a different principle, absolutely, i, i have several containers at home, where i sort, for example, one container means bottles, the second container means bags,
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the third container means toys, and when i have a moment, let’s say inspiration, i want something... then make it out of what i have accumulated, i lay out these things, and in front of me i’m already looking at the bag, what it comes with... it will go beautifully with some kind of bottle, yellow there, blue there , black there, gold there, then i’ll even i don’t know what i will have, but in the process of this collaging i’m already born some kind of silhouette, some kind of object, in fact, i need all this and it will come in handy later, that is, the package itself is not a symbol, rather in some context, yes, rather like that, a big cleaning, how to keep the blood vessels healthy , without this men
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are powerless, the secret of pumpkin seeds. when you don’t have your own protection, immunodeficiency, the program to live healthy will always come to the rescue, tomorrow on the first day, well, friends, we landed in the south of kamchatka, please follow me, we are in the natural habitat of the kamchatka burago bear, here they are, there’s a kupa, look guys, i have a feeling that i’m watching some kind of traveler channel right now, everything here is big, big bears, big crabs, volcanoes, she’s just hot, oh, a small island, it’s called the island of old men, the island is named after a bird , an ordinary old man, an old man, a star, another super old man, here he is my good one, this is maria osadnik, this is evgeny pokrovsky, and here we go, the premiere is on saturday on the first. you
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are watching the schrödinger's cat podcast, and today we are talking about plastic, everything seems fine, you can get energy that is always not enough, you can recycle, you can create such beautiful art objects, why are people so worried about plastic, i read somewhere that they are even going to ban plastic bags, they have already banned plastic toys somewhere, it’s a struggle in general. worse than global warming begins, there really is a problem, uh, well, as for burning garbage - that’s so to speak, but a small share, after all, the bulk of the garbage ends up in a landfill, and why a small share if it’s not so harmful and profitable, why be, it’s still expensive, catalysts are expensive, so to speak, and so on, not so, and the factories themselves, expensive , few countries can afford it, so to speak, well equipped... landfills, well
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, everyone can afford it, but nevertheless, most countries, mainly in south-east asia, they simply dump polymer waste into the ocean and don’t care , of course, it’s cheaper than making a landfill, then you need to reclaim this landfill, which means that a fertile landfill will appear on top of the already frozen landfill layer to there grass, trees grew and so on, this, so to speak, requires costs. that’s why the problem with large waste, it is really important, and it really needs to be solved, but it needs to be solved not by banning the production of some kind of plastic there, reducing it, but by properly dealing with plastic after it has run out. its service life, that’s what sometimes now, let’s say , the european commission recently adopted, they started with
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ear sticks, for some reason ear sticks were the main danger, now in in europe you cannot buy an ear stick, a frame that is made of plastic, it is now made of thick cardboard, i can tell you that it is much less convenient, it breaks, naturally, and the benefit of this is very small, just recently, in europe the commission adopted a new package... which means they banned the so-called intentionally added plastic, for some reason intentionally added plastic is, from their point of view, mainly added to cosmetics, there are glitter in women's braids, for example, all glitter is already banned now , plastic glitter, they say that now there was a very big boom in europe, because just a week ago they were banned, so before that, so to speak, all the glitter was swept away, so
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to speak, literally, from the shelves, well, you know, that means , and at the same time, i already forgot how much, but they want to achieve savings in about 12 years, there are 40,000, in my opinion, tons per year, whereas, well, it’s easy to calculate that, say, simply due to the wear of car tires, the annual, so to speak, formation of these... microparticles of plastic, that's 6 million, tons per year, but of course, no one can touch the automotive industry , so they decided... to recoup on cosmetics and children's toys, and so in general, in principle, so i thought that when it comes to plastic, this is really very important the problem, it needs to be solved mainly due to the fact that these
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uncontrolled discharges into the ocean should somehow be prohibited, and as for microplastics, now this is a horror story that appears everywhere, microplastics, what a horror, i can tell you for sure say that microplastics are harmful it has not been proven at all, it is a polymer, it is quite inert, and most importantly, people say that we are evolutionarily not adapted to this, because plastic began to develop only 100 years ago, let’s say, we lived with sand for millions of years and so on , but at the same time they forget that there is no such pure plastic as such, when it gets... somewhere into the aquatic environment, various surfactants stick to it . and when this plastic enters the body, the body develops an immune response not to the core of this particle, but to these
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surfactants to which he is already accustomed, so most likely all this , so to speak, will pass through the digestive system and be excreted, and there are only isolated cases when, say, these particles... have passed through emissions of some kind of chemical, say, a factory with harmful substances, but they were absorbed by these substances on plastic, then released in a cooperative manner, say, in the stomach of a fish, this is dangerous, indeed, but this needs to be investigated, and so indiscriminately say that microplastics are harmful, that in no way case you can’t take coffee to go, because, so to speak, a huge amount of microplastic from the cup will get into it, so to speak... and so on, this will cause irreparable harm to your health, in general, i can authoritatively say that this is all nonsense, these are all horror stories that do not yet have a scientific basis, well, that is, if i put bread or an apple in this bag
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, this bag will not emit anything harmful, of course it will not emit anything harmful, another thing is that this is what waste sorting is all about , good, germany, so to speak, i have been to many times germany, and so to speak, there i saw all this in my own experience, so it is necessary to separate food, called biomun, from, so to speak, this kind of garbage like plastic, why, because food, it decomposes much faster, it’s not hundreds of years, but there, well, in a few months everything will already decompose for you, so this, so to speak, should go into the composter and, so to speak, decompose very quickly, this is the separation from food, it is justified, and of course it must be done, no, well, i have in mind, is it possible to eat bread after it has been sitting, the bread can be eaten, but if it is small i’ll eat a piece of the bag, it won’t do anything, you can eat it, another thing, it’s not tasty
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, but julia, the question is, are you afraid of plastic, well , many people advise, never store water in plastic bottles, because plastic releases a list of substances, killer, don’t put... fruits in plastic bags, because ethylene is released, the fruits immediately begin to rot, so aren’t you afraid of plastic? no, grigory, i’m not afraid of plastic, the only thing is that i wouldn’t heat something in a bag in the microwave, by the way, when heating, what happens in a microwave , for example, no, well, you just don’t need to put it in a plastic bag, because it can melt, but if you have special

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