[000:00:00;00] no, well, i mean, is it possible to eat bread after it has been sitting, and the bread can be eaten, but if i eat a small piece of the bag, it won’t do anything, you can eat it, another thing, it’s not tasty, but julia, the question is, and you are afraid of plastic, well, many people advise, never store water in plastic bottles , because plastic releases a further list of substances, deadly, do not put fruit in plastic bags, because these are released... they will immediately rot, so you are not afraid of plastic ? no, gregory, i’m not afraid of plastic, the only thing is that i wouldn’t heat something in a bag in the microwave, by the way, when heated , what happens in microwaves, for example , no, well, you just don’t need to put it in a plastic bag , because it can melt, but if you have special dishes for the microwave ,

you can calmly warm up there, clothes made of polymers, how do you feel? i see you are probably wearing synthetic shoes , something plastic on your head, yes, and you are not afraid, no, i am not afraid, i love plastic, i simply adore it, many other materials, including here are building materials, they are much more harmful than plastic, what will happen to plastic, chemical, the reason for this is long chains, plastic consists of long polymer chains, they do not fly. that’s why ethylene won’t fly out of a plastic bag yulia, after all, to you, i know that you have a whole manifesto about plastic as an object of art, if i’m not mistaken, my manifesto is simple, it sounds like this: you don’t need to make garbage out of garbage , at the same time ,

there shouldn’t be many artists like me who make things out of plastic, why, well, imagine, let’s say i’m also... 10 of the same there are 20 in one city, in another, they create such large installations and then exhibit them in the same art park, for example, the same as the muzion, and yes, in every city there is there is more than one park, and imagine, in one park there are 10 sculptures, 20 made from garbage, in another park there are the same ones, even more, more, more, from the outside, every city... will seem like some kind of dump , because even i, like an artist, when i participate in exhibitions, festivals, perform performances, and the viewer is divided into two opinions, those that, wow, it’s so beautiful, it’s so impressive, and those that say, well , it’s garbage, it’s still garbage, why

don’t we need it, we don’t like it, but with one it’s not necessary make garbage out of garbage, and my manifesto is also such that i want, of course, from a positive, creative side to show the viewer that there is a problem, it needs to be solved, of course, i am for zero waste, plastic is, well, a brilliant invention of mankind , the main thing is to learn how to properly dispose of it and recycle it correctly, then we will all be happy. and i have a question for alexey erimovich, they often write biodegradable on bags, does this mean that if i suddenly throw it out into the forest or a bag from a store, then in a month it will dissolve, or is this a bit of a hoax? no, no, this is, of course, a bit of a deception, usually, when they talk about biodegradable bags, they are , of course, completely, so to speak, made from such

natural polymers, but... usually we are talking about the same plastic bags to which is added starch, that is biodegradable additive since starch quickly decomposes, then quickly - a plastic bag is crushed to the state of microplastic, let's say, according to the international classification, microplastic is considered to be any object smaller than 5 mm in size, well, i think that, so to speak, you will not be very happy if your forest will be littered with, well, some small particles of plastic 5 mm in size, so it still pollutes the environment, but another thing is that sooner or later this polyethylene will also

decompose, but still it’s better to dump it all in a landfill take it, everything is equipped there, everything has the modes necessary for it to slowly decompose, so to speak, in a controlled manner, without causing damage to the environment, watch the schrödinger's cat podcast and today we are talking about plastic, how dangerous it is, how beautiful it is . here in my hands, i’ll rustle them, is a plastic bag, which is both a huge achievement of science and a kind of threat to nature, to the environment. but still, is it possible to create such plastic that will simply turn... some elementary components for the foreseeable period in a year, in a month, yes, of course, they are created, here polylactides, for example , please, so to speak, they decompose very quickly, but they are more expensive, no economy can stand it, these are the polymers

that you they named what they are already