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[000:00:00;00] but - he also had this peculiarity, since childhood he loved to write poems, and one day he composed poems addressed to his teachers at the gymnasium where he studied, these were such satirically offensive poems, the school authorities read these poems, they were terribly indignant and green was kicked out gymnasium, by the way, then in a sense he was already green, because this pseudonym, like a truncation of the last name grinevskaya, all this appeared at school, where his friends called him green damn it. which means that after he was expelled from the gymnasium, he entered the real school, where the education was a little weaker, he graduated with a shame, at that time a misfortune happened in the family, green’s mother died, his father married a second time and pasanka’s stepmother openly did not like him, and actually kicked him out of the house, and this is how a fifteen-year-old boy turns out to be , well, it’s not that they rented him some kind of housing on the street in vyatka, they even still show
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the house where green lived, but nevertheless the boy was left to his own devices and grew up with the dream that he would leave, will break out of this world that has disgusted him and go south, he dreamed of the sea, he dreamed of travel, he read such romantic books, at the age of 17, in hunting boots, as he himself later recalled, in a mexican sambrera hat, such a narrow-chested, frail teenager came to odessa to hire a steamboat. no one wants to take him, in the end they took pity on him, took the yungai on some coaster and now let’s remember alla’s sails. in the scarlet ruses, captain gray, arthur gray, and of course he was not born into such a simple family, he is from a family of aristocrats, but nevertheless, he also runs away from home, he also dreams of the sea, he also joins a ship as a cabin boy and endures all sorts of ridicule from the sailors, endures all sorts of difficulties, but he is a courageous, stubborn,
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purposeful young man who in the end overcomes all his obstacles , the captain pays attention to him, begins to teach him the wisdom of the sea, and gray realizes his dream, yes, becomes the captain, the owner of a wonderful sailing ship. with green , exactly the opposite happened; after the very first difficulties, he gave up, he was kicked out in disgrace from his place of service, and he went to osvoyas, to his family. home, but we note that here you can see the mechanism of green’s future creativity , everything that did not work out in his life, all his unrealized dreams, all his actions, he gave as his hero, this is really very interesting, but it didn’t work out in life, then it will turn out in literature, and you can see quite a lot of examples of this kind in life in greene’s works, for example, greene has a lot of widowed fathers, remember, although
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balls and sails, but alexander’s widowed fathers. grina will never marry a second time, but that’s true. so, he returns to vyatka, an absolutely useless young man, in general, he does not understand what he should do, he does not want to study, he is not suitable for any profession, and in the end he ends up in bad company, who begins to steal, along with friends stole a gold chain from a local dentist in vyatka. it’s interesting that many years later, green will write a wonderful... just a super novel, so if ala and sails is such a fairy tale for girls, then the novel that green will write will be called the golden chain , and this, if you like, is ala and porus for boys, this is such a wonderful story of a teenager growing up, overcoming difficulties, but what is curious here is that the plot of this story is based on an incident about , how a certain sailor accidentally dug up a huge gold chain in the sand, and thanks to this chain
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he became incredibly rich... that is, the small chain stolen together with his friends from the dentist later turned in green’s fantasies into a huge gold chain, so he wrote, so he lived, this is how alexander green worked, but it will all be ahead, for now he will still have to reach this literary work of his, swim to this shore, and the sea of ​​life is extremely unfair to him, the waves hit him from all sides, this is where it begins, perhaps , the most interesting, the most dramatic, the most paradoxical period of his life, that is, this is russia as it is, russia of pre-revolutionary times, already various political parties, and of course, the ussr party is the largest party, the bolsheviks so far still exist in their infancy, and the socialist revolutionaries are already active in russia and green was offered to engage in revolutionary propaganda, which he began to do with success, and then it turns out that this worthless young man, good for nothing, has an incredibly clever tongue, can
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very... convincingly tell all sorts of revolutionary propaganda things , ironically, rather, it’s not even an irony of fate, but a wise plan of the leadership of the socialist revolutionary party, he was sent to the city to the black sea fleet, among the sailors black sea fleet, so green begins to tell them all sorts of tales about the horrors of the tsarist regime, in addition, apparently, this unrealized love for the sea, for the profession of a sailor, filled him with such conviction that the sailors listened to him with their mouths open, and he was, in general, such a very nice and wonderful propagandist, but this fairy tale did not last very long, because in the end he was captured... by the police, and there is also a very interesting plot twist, on the day when green was captured police, he had a very good intuition, so he felt that he did not need to go on a mission today, but there was
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a woman, in fact, this woman was the main reason why grintz was so passionate about revolutionary propaganda, he loved this girl very much , she was also a revolutionary, this wonderful girl’s name was ekaterina bibergalal, her father was just a narodnaya volya member, and one of those who raised the red banner in st. petersburg in the sixties of the 19th century, bibergal was captured, convicted, sent to hard labor, nerchinsk, there in nerchinsk his daughter katya was born, who was raised as a revolutionary from childhood, it was she and alexander green who were engaged in this very revolutionary propaganda in sevastopol, it was with her that green was incredibly in love, so when he said that i am not today i’ll go, she, as they say, took him weakly , he was ashamed to show his cowardice, but he was really captured, then the investigation began and imagine the portrait that emerged in front of the investigator, a man
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who deserted from the army is engaged revolutionary propaganda among military sailors, in fact, green was threatened with hanging , the first russian revolution saved him from the death penalty, and those changes in ... legislation, the softening of laws that occurred as a result of the revolution, so he was tried, but the punishment was not so strict, green ended up in prison, and from this prison he tried to escape twice with the help of katya, but since he was a man who did not know how to do anything, at the right moment he could not climb over the wall, in general, so in he stayed in this very prison and served there for the 2 years that were assigned to him. and when he left this prison, he was forbidden to go to the capitals, to moscow, to st. petersburg, but he violates this ban and goes to st. petersburg, because katya lives in st. petersburg, when they meet in st. petersburg there at some kind of underground safe house , green tells
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katya that he is fed up with the revolution and he invites her to take the party cash register and flee to the island of tahiti, green adored katya, katya adored the revolution, so run away with green she didn't want to go anywhere. it was no coincidence that alexander stepanovich later called himself a wild mustang. in fact, he was a man of wild passions. he was a very furious man. and he angrily grabbed the revolver he had and shot at katya. the bullet didn’t hit any vital organ, there was just a lot of blood, but after that green didn’t meet with katya anymore, the essayrs kicked him out, and from that moment green began to engage in literary work. labor, a taste for which he just got while working for the eitzers, since he not only - that means he told all these beautiful fairy tales to sailors, and wrote some leaflets, yes, that is, here he is the future author of ally sails, the future author of wonderful
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gothic stories, romanov came to russian literature, from this side, girl - a rebel with a strong character, mysterious. and the elusive matilda, fantasy, the next level, on friday, on the first , this is the podcast life of the wonderful, i’m with you, its host alexey varlamov and we’re talking about alexander grenn, the first book he wrote was called the invisible cap, it was just... dedicated to esram, it was published in 1907 or 1908. it’s a terrible shame that it wasn’t really read then,
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and it’s not really read now. he is writing a second book, also a realistic book, very dark, in the spirit of leonid andreev, in the spirit of kuprin, in the spirit perhaps of early gorky, who, by the way, everyone read him, everyone knew him, helped him to one degree or another, although they were a little arrogant. and this is what makes greene’s special situation: he was never considered a major serious writer, and of course, he it was depressing, but you know, he once said the following phrase about himself: that i am a writer of the tenth row, but in this row there is no one else besides me, and this is the absolute truth, if we take the literary situation of the silver age, where we had symbolists and majenists, i don’t know, akmiists, realists, futurists, whoever, then there were a lot of different isms, then green will still keep himself apart, it’s his isolated position in russian literature both before the revolution and after the revolution that makes... a person , of course, unique, he
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was an incredible hard worker, and he was really a man of searching, and seeing that his first two books were written in a realistic manner, and these are very good books, i repeat, it’s a terribly offensive that they went generally unnoticed, it was then that green came up with this one his very own country, greenland, it was then that in his third book he began to compose stories, he began to invent characters with foreign names, these stories take place in an unclear place, in which countries it is unclear, but obviously in some southern fictional countries, subsequently, criticism will call this greenland country the country of greenland. it must be said that when these stories were first published, many people suspected green that he did not write these stories himself, but that he stole them, in general this plot is, as it were,
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with plagiarism, with stolen stories, it seems to be such an eternal plot in literature, but in the case of green, there was such a story, which means that supposedly green killed some english captain, stole his chest with his stories and began publishing under his own name , all this is of course nonsense complete, but nevertheless there is no smoke without fire, even if not an english captain , but he shot at his beloved, and at this time, i must say, soon after he broke up with katya, when he began to work, write his first books , another woman came into his life, she was the complete opposite of green, and she came in because he was sent to prison again. this means that this time he was sent to prison because he lived without a passport, because he lived in st. petersburg, where he was not allowed to live, but a girl came to see him on a date, verbal her name was abramova, she was 24 years old, she later wrote in her memoirs that when she came, she was in alexander green’s cell.
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but the first thing this man did, he rushed to her and kissed her on the lips, it was the first kiss in my life, she modestly continues, so he made a huge impression on her, later, when greene was once again convicted and sent to exile to siberia, he still managed to escape from this exile, this is perhaps the only case when he managed to escape, and he resorted to this very faith, said that he ran for her sake, soon they began to live together, soon they had a quiet life, but she didn’t have any quiet life with green, this whole plot was later included in the wonderful story of alexander green, which i advise everyone to read, the story , which is called 100 versts along the river, where green, like this, allegorically describes the history of his crimes, punishments, the history of his youth, and this is how he lived, and this is how he
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worked in the pre-revolutionary years, published books that were not used a fantastic success, no, but of course, against the background of gorky, kuprinali, anid andreev, there alexei tolstoy, uh, green was not such a prominent figure, but he was a writer with his own voice, he was a writer with his own intonation, and, as it were, with its such a literary land. with its own literary island surrounded on all sides by seas, but it was the island of alexander greene, which was inhabited by characters similar to nothing and no one, a foreigner of russian literature, as the criticism of the silver age called him, then begins year, the revolution is coming, and green’s attitude towards the revolution in general was negative, in his prose there is this aversion to politics, to any state activity in general, it
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is felt very acutely, well, look at stories like the tragedy of the suan plateau, an absolutely wonderful story green, it seems like, again, somewhere incomprehensibly somewhere in africa the action is taking place, but certainly the story is most directly related to the russian revolutionary situation of the early 20th century, so when a revolution occurs, green it doesn’t perceive, another thing is that he didn’t have any warm feelings towards the monarchy, towards the old government either, but green’s position was that there was a plague on both your houses, and in general he didn’t like public life, party life, he loved the life of individuals, he loved the life of individuals, and he loved the life of people who believed in the dream, and actually in the al parsis, of course, we can feel this very well, but then it turned out to be
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even more difficult in his life, but he is very much maxim gorky helped, gorky, who really had a soft spot for such vagabonds, for such gorky anarchists, who in general... green, and gorky , in fact, he did a great thing for russian literature, for russian culture, because in these first post-revolutionary years in hungry petrograd, gorky organized the so-called house of arts, in fact, it was such a large writers' hotel, where russian writers and writers could get a room, food vouchers, the opportunity to exist, the opportunity to survive it was in these difficult conditions, in fact, that’s exactly what green took advantage of, and there in this very house of art, he just wrote - the fairy tale of al and sails, fieiriya, as he defined the genre of this work, subsequently many soviet critics
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tried to interpret it as such an allusion to the revolution and presenting the color of the sails as the color of a revolutionary dream, in fact, in my opinion, this has nothing to do with green’s plan, in fact, green of this period is such a sociopathic writer who talks about the idea escape from reality, because if you think about the meaning of the scarlet pruss, then this is a story about how not to live, in fact, yes, because here is a girl in conflict with those around her, and rightly so, and continue to conflict, and there is no need to establish relationships with people, believe in your dream, then there, if you remember, such a storyteller appears in this story, the drunkard egle. in which it can be assumed that green encrypted himself and who tells this girl, remember, she went there to sell a toy yacht with greasy sails, let her sailor and egel this it means he caught a yacht, and he tells her that many years will pass, a huge ship with scarlet prusses will enter the bay, there will be a prince, and
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the girl believes in this dream and lives with this dream, and absolutely does not want to live in real life, this a fairy tale can actually be read in this way and further if it weren’t for captain gray, but with this moral rule of his, yes, with his plan that you have to make a dream with your own hands, yes, it’s like the meaning of life is to some people believed in the dream, and other people believed in this dream as if they were building and doing, and then there is such a happy union of both, but a few years after the death of alexander green, andrei platonov, in my opinion, is the deepest, the most. century, he wrote such a small critical article about the work of alexander green and about this story, and he said surprisingly precise words that, from plato’s point of view, the main drawback in all sails is that the people remained on the shore. if we remember, alla's sails ends with
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assol and gray sailing away, unknown where, they float away from people, float away to some other place. and the people are in coperne, these evil, cruel people who did not like asol, who poisoned asol, so they remain on the shore, but for platonov this is impossible, for platonov the most important thing in life, in literature, everywhere, is the people, these are people, and as if a writer should be with the people, but for green, in fact, these are not people, they are a crowd, a crowd that does not want to like to understand people of a different type, that’s green...’ a fundamental finder, green really personalist and individualist, in the scarlet russia this is not even felt so acutely, probably, although it is certainly felt, but even more so, this is green’s worldview, this green’s rejection of any social system,
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because here is the image of such a performance there in the circus or in the theater, flying people, all this will appear first in alexander green. and bulgakov will read it carefully. and the brilliant world is truly one of the peaks of russian prose of the twenties, and it brought green success, so it’s interesting that i i say, on the one hand, greene is the most unread russian writer of the 20th century, on the other hand, paradoxically, greene is one of the most, so to speak, published russian writers of the century, because in principle. everything that he wrote in the twenties, everything that he wrote in soviet times was published, in soviet times, green was truly a writer, extremely popular, because... who were tired of the revolution, who were tired of the unrest, of
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the civil wars, from violence, from lies, these people wanted relaxation, those fairy tales, those stories, those stories that green showed, that he invented , that green wrote for them, there was something comforting in them, maybe in a brilliant world this is not felt so acutely, although in this novel there is another a very important thing connected with alexander green’s worldview, there really is a main character who is a flying man, a man who can fly, that’s why it was very important for green, here we need to go back a little, st. petersburg in 1910, there in 1910 the so-called aviation week is taking place at the kolomyazhsky hippodrome, people gathered, the whole of st. petersburg came, they sat in the trees, and in order to see how the planes would take off, that is, for our grandmothers,
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grandfathers, great-grandmothers, great-grandfathers, it was the greatest event, because here is this dream, the first planes appeared, and here is the age-old dream of people that people will be able to fly, will be able to take off from the ground, rise into the sky, these first planes, still clumsy, so funny, strange, they took off, the public was in absolute ecstasy and the pilots were the heroes of those days, by the way, for many writers this was a kuprin event. described a flying man, leonid andreev described, and vasily kamensky described, it’s true , it was such an important story, everyone rejoiced, everyone rejoiced except one person, the only person who was at the kolomezh hippodrome and who hated all these flying machines, it was ours hero alexander green, why? because from his point of view, aviation is a vulgarization of the great human dream that a person can and must fly on his own. here. this is really very important. grinn did not like at all, did not recognize such a course of development of human
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civilization. he was a principled opponent of science, technology, achievements, developments, so it is no coincidence that he had a sail and a sail, he hated steamships with their engines, with their chimneys from which clouds of black smoke burst out, he was such a person, looking into the past and he hated that's all, he has a completely... story called mermaids of the air, in this story, that means there are some mermaids just like in the water, there are also mermaids in the air, these mermaids attack these pilots, that is, these planes, destroy them, and drown them as if in the air, and green’s sympathies, of course, are on the side of the mermaids, of course , in the novel there is a brilliant world, all this is also a rejection of science and technology , it is very felt, and the main character, a man who can fly on his own, and this is described there... the scene at the kolomyazhsky hippodrome is described by a girl, the only girl in this crowd, who believes that
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the hero will take off now, will take off not because his plane with these engines that are crackling, making noise, spewing out clouds of smoke, and because he has some kind of device that will fly from the melodic ringing of thousands of bells, no one believes, everyone laughs at him, and he takes off, only one girl believed, very similar to scarlet... and this girl receives an award, and the hero takes her with him, too, to some , that is, extra-celestial, heavenly world, and another example of such a rejection of science and technology towards green, he is very didn't like cars, his is absolutely wonderful a story called the gray car, by the way, note that the gray car is sort of the antonym of the sail and the sails, so the story is told by a wonderful film, mr. designer, such an arty movie, but really very subtle, deep, and smart. and this is alexander green, with this rejection of the course of human history, the course of human civilization and a somewhat
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arrogant attitude towards those people who think differently than him. in the mid- twenties, green's life was quite harmonious, he then moved from petrograd to crimea, which is why crimea itself became such a main... place of stay, residence of alexander stepanovich, he really never had his own home, he rented a house, but that museum of alexander greene, which is in feodosia today, wonderful, that museum that is in the old crimea, where he moved at the end of the twenties, and such very important points of his existence, it was such a rather fruitful in its own way calm period of his life, and then misfortunes began, then at the end of the twenties , when the overall atmosphere in the country became harsher. alexander greene’s glaring discrepancy with this sort of soviet vector
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of development became more and more obvious. grinn probably didn’t fit into this soviet life. this is especially acute, this is felt in his last novel, in my opinion, his best novel, which i very much advise everyone to read in a novel called the road to nowhere, this is a very bitter story of a man who was given a lot in childhood, in his youth , he is a lot of things wanted to get from life, in the end all his dreams are shattered, here , perhaps, green, this is, as it were, that spirit of pride, which... doubtlessly was characteristic of him in previous years, here, as it were, he is questioned, here he is like would crumble, and green begins to change, in general it is very interesting how this human being, towards the end of his life, seems to be moving more and more towards humility, in general, the end of green’s life is the end of the life of a christian who repents, who
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confesses, who go to church dies, having received communion and forgiven all his... i must say that the last years of green's life were terribly difficult, because they stopped publishing him, i say, he no longer corresponded to the trends of the era, and he was little published, he received few fees, he actually he was in poverty, he was in poverty in his crimea, and besides, he became seriously ill, and in 1932 he died in the old crimea, the priest who confessed him before his death later said that when he asked: have you reconciled with your enemies? i'm indifferent to them. this is an amazing answer. this of course, it was characteristic only of our hero, and this characterizes him to the highest degree. another very important and very offensive thing in the fate of alexander green. here is this man who described his travels so much, who described so many different worlds and very different countries. in fact
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, i saw almost nothing in my life. he really hasn't been around much. that’s kind of the geography of alexander green’s life, it’s quite stingy, at the end of his life, and he really dreamed of receiving the nobel prize, and he told his wife, but he already had the third wife, and nina nikolaevna green, and to whom allas’s story is actually dedicated, this is such an amazing woman who later kept the memory of her husband, so she later recalled what he told her, ninochka, just imagine, we will receive the nobel prize, we will hire a yacht and travel around the world, but he really wanted to see the world, these are the countries that he invented, that he described, and if you think about how much publishing houses profited from the works of alexander greene, what crazy circulations they produced his books in soviet times, and in the sixties he was almost the third in the number of circulations, because then he was wildly
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popular, now his popularity has subsided a little, how many... films were staged there, if only there were some a time machine and it would be possible to miraculously transfer this money to him, so that at least he would sigh, see, look at something, uh, it was terribly unfair and this man’s fate was wonderful in its own way, but i personally feel great for him gratitude for his books, his deep, smart, honest books that i just barely managed to talk about, but i just want to name him... absolutely wonderful stories, in addition to novels, stories, he was an excellent storyteller, a born storyteller, and just read the story of the corsals, for example, this is one of the peaks of russian prose of the 10th century, such an amazingly deep gothic story , built as if at the crossroads of the real and the fictional, the story of which takes place in hungry petrograd, after
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the revolutionary, this fiction, these here are the rats that exist in the mystery... the house through which the hero wanders , this sur grinovsky, he is absolutely not imitable, he is not invincible, i don’t know, or fondang’s story, this is also such an absolutely wonderful, amazing work of alexander stepanych, which explains a lot in his inner world, and i would like to end with this, and alexander green has a novel that he wrote in the late twenties, this... the novel is called jesse and margiana, it is the story of two sisters, and one of these sisters beautiful, the other is not, one of these sisters is kind, the other is evil, and i usually ask my students at the institute, what do you think, which sister is which, well, most often they say that the good one is ugly, and the evil one is beautiful, but this would be true for any writer , but not greene, greene has good and
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beautiful, and evil, terrible, this is a very interesting novel, there is a very interesting conflict, there... such a contradiction and between good and evil, between beauty and ugliness, glin generally loved painting very much , as it were, of all types of arts, painting was extremely important to him is important, in this novel jessie, that was their name naturally, margiana is evil and ugly, jessie is a kind and beautiful girl, so jessie one day in one house they see a picture depicting lady gadziva, yes, of course we all remember this medieval story about the english lady, but the wife of such a stern ruler, i don’t remember in which city, who demanded all sorts of unimaginable taxes from his subjects and those. prayed and began to beg lady godiva to act somehow on her husband, to beg him to be more merciful to him, and the husband was so cruel, he burst out laughing and said that i will fulfill your wish, i will fulfill
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your request, if you walk, legged and undressed, or ride a horse through the whole city, in this picture, as greene writes, this is exactly what is depicted lady godiev, who is naked, sits astride a horse, her hair... is on her head, she is walking in front, which means there is a man who is leading a horse with his head low, all the shutters are naturally closed, no one is looking at this very lady, chaste residents cities, this is how they behaved, and how he thinks jesse, looking at this picture, that this is a very unfair picture, because after all , there is a viewer, and in this city there were , what, 2-3 people, and how many spectators looked at this picture, and then... jesse reasons that i would have painted this picture differently, i would have depicted a dark room, in this dark room there are sad people sitting, who are terribly ashamed, terribly bitter, all the shutters
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are really tightly closed, they lower their heads, one of them says, not a word about it , they hear the sound of hooves on the pavement, only a pale ray breaks through the shutter light, this is the gadiva, this... is alexander grim. this was a podcast about the life of the wonderful. it was conducted by me, alexey varlamov, writer, rector of the literary institute, and we talked about alexander greene. hello, this is the psyche podcast, where i am a journalist. candidate of psychological sciences mikhail khors are trying to sort out the most complex implications of life situations. our current situation is unusual in that the request
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came from my husband, alexander, hello, you came to us with your family problem, your wife anna is afraid of all types of transport, afraid of speed, as i understand it, anh, this has already become a big problem. comfort is a big inconvenience, for your life, for your life there, travel, entertainment, please tell me, natalya mikhailovna, please help, in fact she is afraid of speed, she gets hysterical, comes to tears, what a speed, 120 km per hour , 150, no , sometimes she’s even afraid of the sound of the engine, the car hasn’t started moving yet, the sound is just starting to get louder, he’s already starting to get hysterical, fortunately the steering wheel is missing, but it happens it’s getting closer, and what does it look like, and all the fear, rapid heartbeat, tears, panic, hands are shaking, it’s impossible to cope with it, even to be distracted, something’s not working out for me,
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anh, as i understand it, from what he told us alexander, when he asked for help, by the way, he’s a great fellow, a husband who is so responsibly looking for a way out of the situation, it ’s very cool that this didn’t all start out of the blue, but tell me that there was a situation with accidents, and yes, i had situations when driving a car in the fall, this it was...' skolskaya road skolskaya dacha road and we were driving with friends and it so happened that they were making fun of them, making fun of the girls, trying to scare them, in the end we crashed into a fence, that is, you weren’t driving, you weren’t driving i, i was sitting in the middle back, and just at that moment i only had time to put my hands forward, because i was not wearing a seat belt, my hands were uh... my hands hurt, they took me out of the car, i look, well, everyone remained alive, yes, everyone survived, they were just very scared, but well, it hurt a little bit of a finger because i was leaning into
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the front seat and they took me out of the car, and i just look at the flashlight and it floats for me,

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