[000:00:00;00] yes, let’s call it that, so, of course, at first you just need to give support, support to the person, so that his vestibular system comes into agreement, remembers, gets used to it, i, sash, remember, even after the fourth flight there, yes, well, it’s like an experience, i recovered quickly, that is, it seemed to me that i didn’t need support, but all the time i felt the elbow of my doctor, namely the trainer, next to me, it turned out like this if... on the steps, yes, i see a step , i lift my leg, walk, if i start to get distracted and talking to someone, yes, i seem to be raising my leg, well, automatically the steps , what’s 14 cm or whatever it is according to the model, but i forget, during these six months, that there is still gravity, and i’m missing that little bit, as soon as i turned away, i started talking la-la-la to someone, you make sure to cling to this step with your toe, i remember this for sure after every flight, it seems normal that there are

three or four things to climb there. stumps in the dispensary, well , from time to time i touched it, so of course, we always need a coach, yes, yes, well, we have rehabilitation is divided into two large stages, yes, this is an acute period, when the astronaut has just descended, fresh, he still smells like space, so starry, this is approximately 3 weeks, yes, this is 21 days, as a rule, at this stage we are very we don’t overload it - the musculoskeletal system, that is, we need to strengthen it, every day, always a swimming pool, which is heated specifically for the astronaut, it’s normal, but here 50% of success, well, yes, it’s easier to recover in the water, well, starting a little bit , i don't know, walk, probably not running, walking, yes, yes, of course, telelenkurs, telelenkurs - this is the second stage, at the first stage after 21 days, the crew , again with a trainer, with a doctor

, fly out, well, to some sanatorium, the astronauts choose, who wants where, exactly, it’s good when it’s summer, the sea, yes, yes, sometimes it’s winter, but in winter we don’t go skiing right away, and where did you have rehabilitation now? now anya’s rehabilitation took place in pyatigorsk, we were there in the sanatorium, in our fmba, and yes, in our fmba, well, it’s good there, going to pyatiggorsk, uphill, downhill, that is, what you need to eat. the water, of course, and it’s mineral, it’s not literally - for several weeks, i don’t know, i was just in this sanatorium this year before yours before your rehabilitation, that is , i went there myself, drank some water, and they just told us, yes, they told us that the advantages and the downsides to this particular place, i’m just starting to remember, the first time i went through rehabilitation was karl vary, well, it’s an old one,

well, not soviet, but a soviet-era resort where our workers always went, well like abroad, after all, it’s abroad, and then i was in greece twice, on crete, yes, i , too, once with the first official crew, we also went to crete in greece, probably also there, because the cosmonauts they always share with each other experiences where it’s good, like sensations, like emotions, like a state, so we already... in your footsteps it turns out, too, let’s go with the forty-seventh, for you this is a vacation, so i know for sure that for me this is a vacation , well, rehabilitation, that is, i worked for six months in space, with clean i eat with conscience , i get a massage, i drink water, i go for a walk, that’s it, but for you it’s not a vacation, for me it’s not a vacation, for me it’s a job, but since i’m doing what i love, i don’t have to kind of work

never, i just always do what i love, i really... like my job , my profession, so you can say, yes, that i’m also on vacation, i just have a number of other interesting, wonderful things you love yours so much job, but we talked about when anna applied, you tried to get into the cosmonaut corps, well, maybe later, and yes, later , do you have such a thought now, do you have an idea, we have open admissions, yes, now they have been made open, so this is very cool, i tried to get into space now, yes i i tried to pass and where where did they catch you? i’m clearly not qualified for physical training? no, not in physical education, strange as it may seem, they caught me in the teeth, well, can this be cured? yes, i think you have already cured everything is being done, yes, now absolutely, there are chances, chances yes, all chances, selection is an interesting thing, i think that if possible, you should definitely

participate. yes, so that later you won’t regret not participating. we continue our conversation with coach alexander sverdyak. tell me, what do you remember most from your trip to america? since my trip to america, i went there with a purpose, and i think that the most striking event for me, of course, was the start of the dragon cru5, with my colleagues, american, i mean coaches, have you met, have you communicated? yes, we know each other, we talked, i saw them, how they prepare their astronauts, her charges training, no, it’s different in some way, they have some things better, there’s a difference, yes, most likely there is a difference, i heard from the astronauts that there is a difference, well, because anyway... we communicate, and what in the process of work, do they have anything good that can be learned from them? good things that can be adopted, i think that there is always something to learn from foreign

teams, these are some crossfit things, very interesting, they have a lot of work on team building, which is also interesting, when they compete with teams of astronauts myself, well, this is probably more of a competition. game games are not exactly the kind that need to be won, but of course they are also divided into teams from time to time in different ways, but it’s very cool, it’s very interesting, it ’s teamwork and also associated with physical activity, i think it’s great possible this will also become more widespread here, but we just said that you have a desire, plans in the future, to join the cosmonaut corps and perhaps you will be the first space family, which will appear on the iss, there are such plans, you are discussing with anya, the plan thing, of course, is like this, i think anya, it’s here, she was here, she told us about it, it would be very, very cool, it would be very

cool, about the fact that this is just such a plan, straight to implementation, that is, well, i don’t know, like a training plan, two cosmonauts in the family, that’s cool, i think, yes, i think it would be very cool, and how you met, it wasn’t about space, of course, on an abstract topic, yes, we met at competitions, well, somehow where else could we meet, where else could we meet, there were rafting competitions, rafting is rafting, on mountain rivers, on inflatable rafts, well, they are rafts, that’s what they’re called, that is, it’s not who swam to whom, especially me i understand that there are women’s teams and men’s teams or somehow mixed, and there are separate men’s teams and women’s separate teams, well, how did you fight each other in all of them, we weren’t direct competitors, we’re just from different cities, that’s how it is it so happened that we came to these competitions, what city, city gornoaltaisk is the capital, and separately from it there are locations

on the katun river, there is the algumen rapids, where the russian cup, the russian championship takes place, that is, this is not a simple competition, yes, yes, this is a good level of competition enough, but why anya are rated, what we must tell about anya what she did. not only was she in this boat, yes, of course, she was an athlete in this boat, as far as i remember, she was even the captain, well, for some time for sure, yes, yes, yes, she was the captain of the novosibirsk team, at that moment she sat in a different composition, well, just like athletes periodically switch there from well , did you win anything? club to club? no, not you, nor her, about anya’s team, to be honest, i don’t think so, no either, what? then you didn’t earn gold medals, but at least you met, but at least, i think that at these competitions , probably, each of us received the most important prize, yes, we met, we continued

our acquaintance, communication later we seem to do some very interesting things together things, but tell those people who also want to join the cosmonaut corps, what should they do now, what exercises? you would advise, well, not just run, what would you advise, so that they come prepared , well, of course, we are there to do 12 pull-ups, we need to run, swim, if possible, than this is what you would say to pay more attention to , pay more attention specifically to the physical, i think that any athlete, even of some narrowly focused specialization, is already at... 50% i’m ready, of course, to take a diversified approach to my physical training, that is, if you have any questions about swimming or running, all these standards are presented in the public domain, you can easily go to the cpc website, look, or even on the internet,

when it’s available the recruitment has been announced, there will be a document, even now, now you can already look, i don’t think that they will undergo any major changes, so you can easily rely on what has already been before, check yourself, test. and where there are some shortcomings, of course, try to strengthen them, it is better to work with trainers, after all, teachers, because they are professionals, yes, just professional, because, as it were, not everyone. a person can prepare himself, and if we are to be completely honest, then a coach-teacher will always prepare an athlete better than he himself, otherwise the olympic champions would not have coaches, they would prepare themselves and put them on a pegestal, here you are sasha , you have been working in the space industry for a long time, you understand perfectly well what risk is, i have space flight, you i was at the launch, you saw this huge rocket, yes, you saw the launch itself, were you afraid? did you have any feeling at that

moment at the moment of the launch of the space rocket? probably, we can more call it excitement, yes, excitement, experiences, but uh, there’s probably no fear as such, a very interesting uh, also experience, we were brought to her literally the day before the launch of the rocket, specifically to the family of astronauts, our cosmonaut, us they showed the rocket, almost like this, that’s... how i see you, that is, i stood near the rocket and i could look at it, it was on the launch pad, where it was already, and its start was postponed, but yes, there was one postponement due to weather conditions, well, it’s not critical, there was a window there again just a couple of days ago, everything is fine, very, very it’s great that we could go up to the rocket right together and look at it, that yes, indeed, here it is, it exists, then we watched when the launch took place, the excitement, yes,

of course, from the very beginning, when people come out, wave, sit in the car and go to their starting table, to their rocket, and until the moment of entering the station, of course, all this is in such an emotional mixture, let's say, this is joy, of course, because a little more, yeah, they flew for a little more than a day, so... and then already when anya called me, back in america you said that everything is great, everything is great, well , did you remember this phone number, there’s a special phone number there, no, well, you can’t call it there, no, not there, at least you’ll know , it was missed that they called you, but i don’t know, it seems to me that you can’t confuse him with anything, it’s just that when you see a number that starts with plus one, it’s not quite usual, at least for russia , and you understand that someone is in space, then

you’re unlikely to reset it, but really, really good, let’s imagine how do you think, as a professional, coach, teacher, what will a person do in space in 50 years , uh, considering that 60 we ushered in our space era, that’s about the same leap forward, uh, taking into account how technology is developing now , which in general, yes we, humanity is more and more, more and more picking up the speed of development, we are fantasizing, yes, i think that in the next 30 years, this will be a landing on the moon with the establishment of some kind of stationary bases there, or at least near lunar stations, such in lunar orbit, yes, yes, yes, in lunar orbit exactly, and further progress towards mars, i think that 50 years before mars we should reach yes, it should

happen, i’m not sure that there will be some kind of station there and the apple trees will bloom, but i think that someone will still get to mars, we will hope, let's hope, hope, hope for this, unfortunately, time has flown by very quickly with space corsus, today my guest was alexander serdyuk, senior trainer-teacher for physical training at the cosmonaut training center, i'm anton shkaplerov, it was a space podcast stories, all episodes of the lab podcast project you can watch on the website of the first channel

1tv.ru. when i was at the post office of the servants whom i met, a geologist, and looking at the map on the white wall, he grinned at me, he told me how a tale cries, without a man, she’s lonely, she’s not at the post office, they have a cheek, which means we’re on our way there. it means there is a road there, the possessions hid in the sky, the drunken stars look close, where in a fairy

tale they fall, black fairy tales, big trees sing for us at night, black fairy tales about pink snow, pink snow, even in a dream, and at night it walks through the forest satan, and collects fresh souls, winter has turned out to be new blood, and you, she will get you, she will get you, but the clouds did not care, the stars. the dirty ones look down, and

they serve up the fabulous taiga. from the lahs they were not afraid, the stars were pleasant they look up into the sky, they fall from the heavens of a fairy tale, and from the heavens of a fairy tale, they fall,

i am blessed! fabulous taiga in the podcast 20 years later , vadim samoilov and albert potapkin, our guests are two legends, vadim samoilov, founder, musician, composer, poet, arranger and generally the leader of the agatha christie group to this day. which is very, very nice, thanks to vadim, this is a group, this is one of my favorite groups, it still exists, and a legend who has worked with countless groups, the brightest of which is nautilus pompilius, aquarium, this is a drummer, a musician, now in the agatha christie group, they are lucky that he is with

them, albert potapkin, hello, albert, hello, vadim , good evening, the song is fabulous taiga, a great hit, as you called it, ironic - somehow wait, well, not a parody, but something like this, well, yes, it is in a sense a parody, yes, an aesthetic joke, yes, at one time it so happened that with this trick we anticipated such a later legendary project as an old song about the main thing, remember, it was, because that frankly this is a reference to the music from the film gaidai, zatsepin's music, wonderful, people are losing each other, so we deliberately went for this move, and it was easy and fun and thought that it was... and we are still very grateful to the wonderful actors from the film ivan vasilyevich i have a profession, who agreed, yes, who agreed to star in the video, yes, you changed one note, it was such a strong move, everything was predictable, then suddenly, well, in fact, the melody was

written, it was completely different, the author of this melody is sasha kozlov , one of ours also the founders, who unfortunately is no longer with us, he was always, unlike the musicians with his brother, quite a pop person , few people know, but he, for example, was the author of the hit love me, love, among inveterate swindlers, yes, there is music his, this, this is sasha’s melody, yes, absolutely right, he has a lot of pop melodies, in general he is a pop person, so when he brought his material for agatha christia, it categorically did not correspond to what my brother and i saw, but no matter how strange, of course we wanted sasha songs and melodies were revived in agatti christi, and we. so we attacked them very cheerfully, this lightness with which we all attacked together should have gotten boring, sasha allowed us to very significantly experiment with melodies, that’s how they were born. there are very light and cheerful hits, such as fairytale taiga, carpet, helicopter, sailor, these are all songs

written to music by sasha kozlov, 2001 was a very difficult year for me and i remember exactly this maxidrom, when i had the honor of representing you at this maxidrome, i remember i was in some kind of clothes of a centurion's fitter, in a grimy one, they checked me and there were scaffolding , some kind of industrial zone, like that, there were garages, at this excidrome, and i was sitting on the scaffolding, tied to some, yes, i remember this industrial like that, and i had the honor of representing agatha christie to say some words about sasha samoilov, sasha kozlov, sasha kozlova, yes, about his departure this year, it was 2001, and i remember that it was for me the main reason to be sad this year is because i’m both... in that lineup, i always love her

and still do too, but the golden lineup for me is gleb samoilov, vadim samoilov, sasha kozlov and andrey kotov, these are the golden four, i know that sasha stood on the keys all the time, all these, loops or something to name it, on the guitar, these are riffs, and when on the keys, you know, in fact, we turned out to be the first ones. time, which began to use these electronic cutting technologies in live concerts, and you know, at first, it actually started with the album opium, in which there was a lot all sorts of electronic pads, what is now called , and we took with us, you won’t believe it, a computer, an oteri 1044, that is , we took the system unit directly, we ordered a monitor, because then there were no these laptops, the convenient laptops that we have now everyone already has it, but of course, this has significantly expanded by... not minus the dumb, minus the dumb, well, after all, we are

musicians, by the way, i want to say that we have encountered, we are alec, just the first drummer of the band agatha christie, and we have always faced the fact that what is on the album is recorded, then it’s difficult to reproduce it with the number of hands , this is something that almost all musicians who create albums in studios face, and we actually created albums in studios, that is, this is... not just rehearsed then recorded material, but it’s like such a canvas, that is, i am one of those lovers of sound and sound production who love to create, that is, make an audio recording, well, some kind of work of art in itself, from a technological point of view, from a sound design point of view, this is always interesting and beautiful to me, let me always add this, when i came to the audition for the first time, i met vadim and sasha kozlov right at the first meeting, our meeting lasted, in my opinion , only three minutes. vadik said, he says: come, listen to what we are doing, and the first thing that caught my eye, indeed, these were such attempts at writing, let’s say in authorship, but

what caught my eye was sound production, that is people already immediately thought how they wanted to sound, that is, i was familiar with that at that time i was, if not with everyone, then with many, that is, such a party had already formed in sverdlovsk in the form of orange there, nastya, then the magilevsky association, i knew who was playing what, but when i first heard it, agata was not at all... .was not similar, that is, radio engineering education made it possible to implement all the ideas, and since sasha kozlov was also a music lover, he listened to a huge amount of music and brought references, and so on and so forth, vadim discussed with him, and vadim, here as a sound producer, that’s absolutely for me an unsurpassed person to this day, that is, his view of sound, in principle, really runs, it’s not something that runs ahead, but at that moment it really was some kind of breakthrough, in fact, that is ... it was real synth pop , which i haven’t heard from anyone, it’s true, thank you for your kind words, dear friend, and of course, then, when gleb had already finished

school, julius wagatha christie with his aesthetic and ethical things, yes, then this has gathered into this single triumvirate, absolutely wonderful, which gave birth to the same agatha christie, who blew up, so to speak, the entire vocal space several times, that’s for sure, it was a breakthrough and really in terms of sound, in terms of mastering, it was something... fantastic, it was completely unusual for russian rock in in general and the underground in general, even the yekaterinburg rock club, the then sverdlovsk rock club, the leningrad rock club, it was electronics of the highest standard, for me it was between, in a good way, no offense between q ideshmot a little, but only cooler, i think what is a very noticeable plus is why it all happened, that it was just a group , it was a team in which these three... components of us, that is, me, my brother and sasha kozlov, brought their own and enough, well so actively presented, that is, everyone had a vision of what

the musical material should be, and you know, we even worked it out. we voted on a technology for making musical decisions that is unique to the creative team, because situations often happen that one person likes it this way, another likes it differently, and a third doesn’t like it we just voted on creative issues, we even called it the primary composer organization like the komsomol, that is, whether the solo in this song would be like this, they voted, so to speak, someone always ended up in the minority, but it was a universal formula that helped to smooth out all these such excessive ambitions, when this group, it really multiplies, that is, it’s just squared in a cube, but these were the basics of marketing in music, as i understand it, the basics of marketing, by the way, here the most common question we were asked was why the band was called agatha christie, in fact we didn’t yet know the word marketing , yes, but in fact it was an ideal

marketing ploy, at the turn of the century a lot of rock clubs opened on central television and started showing ro-groups numerous and the task was to catch such a name so that it would be immediately remembered, in fact, the name agatha christie was invented only for this reason and the authors of this name, by the way, were alexander kozlov and we mean that ak, and initials, initials, yes, he laid his own, that is, the memory of him is still in this, yes, this is a podcast 2 years later, i am the host konstantin mikhailov, my guests are wonderful people, vadim samoilov and albert potapkin, the agatha christie group. when i tried agatha, i started trying it on you, like in a war, then i discovered the christmas tree and the sleeper, it’s perfect, and the sleeper was even before that, much before that, yes, it’s

such a bit of a mess, so-la , so straight, i’m quite sure once. christy is the handwriting, yeah, that is, we grabbed different styles, in fact, everyone was always musical polyglots, and no matter how we treated musicians who were stuck in one genre, one style, that is, we were always curious about the musical process, sorry if - listen to every agatha christie album, so if let's take the second front of opium, let's say, there is decadence and epilogue, these are completely different groups, but the group is one, that is, for me this is a group that has survived not only did not record 10 albums there, absolutely absolutely or miracles, yes, that is, you are absolutely you won't hear anything from the past, it's a group that did not repeat itself even in sounds. sasha kozlov, as a polyglot, brought a lot of things, that is, we were constantly updating our own musical preferences and tastes , and this was reflected in all our

albums, so agatha christie is really a signature, if we talk about about i want to thank you for you see in front of you, i don’t know, but whether it’s worth thanking for it or not, i’ve been working on radio for 30 years, even more, but for the first time i came to the maximum as a correspondent in the ninety-first year, when this station was born, then i took a break for 2 years to attend the higher directing courses, it seemed like i didn’t plan to return to the maximum, but somehow at a friend ’s higher directing courses, sitting in the kitchen, during the day i turned on the maximum and there was... a song in the war, i’m like you in the war, i was inspired, a tear fell on the kitchen table, it was so cool, i’m on you, and i left, the battle is over, great, it just hit me, i realized, so, what kind of wave is this, maximum, it’s time to go back , i returned, and

kozyrev was already there, who premiered all agatha’s songs christia and every premiere we all the teams waited for the maximum, it’s just that when kozyrev gave us the next compact, we were like, hurray, whatever it is, it will be cool, i remember the mid-nineties, and kozyrev finally introduces me to the samoilov brothers, he lets me down them to me, he says: this is gleb, this is vadim, this is kostya, our morning show host, zhavronok, i swallowed a lump. then he said: “hello, i’m your idol. i remember that. and now i just blushed deeper and couldn’t say anything else, because you really they were idols for me, i just formulated them inaccurately. and you know, when the shameful star came out, on tour nautilus listened only to the shameful star, he didn’t turn it off

, that is, everyone got on, got off the bus, some quotes, goodbye, baby, well, by the way, i can say that our comrade, slava butusov, put a lot of effort into it, he very actively promoted the album shameful star, showed it to his colleagues, yes, that’s it. huge respect to him, one of his favorite albums, yes it’s true, but maybe we can call him now, yes, i think, quite, now we’ll try, by the way, if we talk about the 2000s, what a renaissance butusov had with the song of going home, yeah, yeah, i feel like i’m using the connections of others, my guests, hello, cheerful gennady, hello, yes, hello, we are sitting here with alik potapkin, and with kostya mikhailov, the legendary. slava, hello, vyacheslav, hello, yeah, yes, we remember you with a kind word, thank you, you know why, for the fact that you directly promoted the album shameful star

at one time, i really know that you are very i showed it to musicians a lot, for which i am very, very grateful to you, yes, yes, there was a time , you mean it’s an excellent album, yes, thank you, slav, by the way, after this album, yes, in my opinion, we made a decision together work on titanic. well, titanic was recorded in ninety-three, ninety-four, and well, as far as i remember, you approached me forcibly against the backdrop of successful sound production in the album shameful star, thanks to him, among other things, our interaction with you took place wonderful, and of course, there vanguard there was a sound, but thank you very much, salik also remembered the work on the titanic, thank you for the fact that there was a huge... i gave creative leeway to mock your material, but in my opinion it turned out great, well, thank you, because you

did a great job with the sound, thank you, slav, you there, what material, such a sound, some kind of joint tour with nautilos, and nautilos and i had the honor of later staging a concert version of the titanic, it was a huge project in the concert hall of russia, then existing, we also have drummers there . and petya podgorodets played along, which means the children’s choir sang, in general, it was a very big project, yes, which i also had the good fortune to direct, even played bass at one of the concerts, played bass, but that’s later, our program is dedicated to zero and 20 years later, and we also remember with a kind word your wonderful hit, the song of going home, you know, what surprised me most was that there is your charming melody there, it’s always clear, but i i heard a smile all the time, here you are, when you sing it, i see a smile on your face, and this is a very special feeling, it appeared just for the first time in the 2000s, when i can almost

hear this smile clearly in every song of yours, perhaps this is connected with a certain condition, tell slava that we are happy to see him in any condition, on the podcast for 20 years, kostya mikhail says that in any condition, we will be happy to see you on the podcast 20 years later, whatever, when you get together, thank you , yeah, come on, good roads to you, all the guys big, big hello, yes, goodbye, thank you, slav, well, yes, slava, as always , laconic, a man of action, not a word, like that, normal, he, he’s on the road, things are serious, let’s rewind, maybe in eighties or nineties, ural polytechnic, eighty-eighth year eight. you radio technicians perform with guitars in front of students, this was the first time you went on stage, what were the feelings, how was the reception, in general we were very lucky, alik and i often remember those times, the end of

the eighties, the sverdlovsk rock club, and we we believe that we were lucky, as a sverlovsky musician, that we did not start with apartment dwellers, but we started precisely from the stage, that is, with the ural musicians, this is the magic of the stage and responsibility to the stage, it has always been, that is, everyone was sharpened for what - this is a performance not just for the circle of fans around you, but for the musicality, for the music, for how it looks, what kind of presentation it is, how it is performed, i believe that this is such a distinctive style, sverdlovsk, but as for that i'm a radio engineer, well listen, almost all rock musicians in our country graduated from some other university, that’s what concerns me, i’m a radio engineer by training, so we had a homemade studio located at the upi national technical faculty, and that’s where we actually rehearsed. recorded albums together, but it must be said that the sverdlovsk musicians were not spoiled by the conditions for recording, each had their own really, that is, unlike the leningraders and muscovites, who still

had more opportunities for this, the sverdlovsk musicians were limited, but almost every group had the opportunity to rehearse right on stage, and we entered the stage, as they say, not bent over on the floor, we already felt, strictly speaking , at home, practically, yes, that is... these were not apartment dwellers, it was already really like that, so maybe this is the secret, for me svetlovsk is the main forge of musical rock talents in general and not only rock, but also electronic talents in russia. because you can have different attitudes towards the underground rock of st. petersburg, there you can moscow, but the brightest groups, in my opinion, are the same ones there, i don’t know, there’s chaif, semantic hallucinations, well, theus pompilius, agatha christie in the end, that’s what is connected with the fact that svedlovsk is the main forge of such talented groups, this is the main rock forge of the country, thank you for such a high assessment that the group from the urals is the best, well, of course, they are one of the best, but our colleagues from... from moscow also

gave a very high result in stupidity, as for sverdlovsk , ural rock, it seems to me that in it the two most closely correlate beginning, physics and lyrics, as such, we had rather modest conditions for recording, so near each group there was some kind of soldering iron, some radio engineer who figured out how to do it, the famous colonel, alexandrny, who recorded the legendary track, then there are just some gadgets they make on the go. production, sound production, this is one of the generally distinctive features of sverdlovsk rock, because there really is always some kind of sound, so that it is somehow recorded, and it’s not just, you know, like , well, let’s record beautifully so that it takes place like the art of sound recording

that we’ve already talked about today, it’s very. plus the fact that if you take any sverdlovsk group, then there are either one or two people from a music school, that is, in any case , there was someone with a musical education, and one way or another, yes, of course, the level was already rising, that is , there was a fusion of technology and professionalism and musicality and simply natural talent, like vadim, here education and musicality and nature, you know, this is exactly what played into the fact that, as vadim and i recently discussed, that the sverdlovsk rock groups have no followers, they are alone and not like anyone else, that is, they were all like everyone would occupy his own shelf, yeah, well, yes, techies or hard workers, like chaif, also a shahren, he was almost a hard worker there, a vandal, a builder, yes he was a builder, yes, they were a little apart from the sverdlovsk ruklub, yes they as they were in the sverdlovsk club, but the style that they promoted was precisely this is the kind of blues and this kind of traditional rock and roll, so i think they are big

molos. that they kind of kept it, insisted on it, because they were of course significantly different from everything else on the ural rock tour, but you see, time puts everything in its place, what they did, people love, they stayed in yekaterinburg, and so do you now they flew to us especially from yekaterinburg, for which we thank you very much, well, in general, our team now lives in three musical capitals, partly in yekaterinburg, partly in moscow, partly in st. petersburg, so we come together and work later. listen, you produced, you had a project, a rock hero, in my opinion, if i’m not mistaken, there are semantic hallucinations there, look , what we were talking about, music production, this topic is very interesting for me and interesting for alik, we worked quite a lot with expression studios, helped start-up groups , that is, you take, as it were, this one, as i say about them, my task is to take your diamond,

make a diamond on it... as it were passing through oneself, giving it energy, and some kind of rubbish renewal, this has always occupied us, let’s say, this is actually not the most rewarding occupation, the producer investing in the young one expects to then get some kind of return for himself, and the young one, when he becomes a star, of course, it happens that the tower is torn down, this is a normal situation, but as for the project rog-hero, yes, it was just a project that we did with also a music radio station, since there is a lot there, you yourself know what's on the music station brought piles of cds, well, i decided to just review them, listened, and thus it turned out at first some kind of mail, then it turned out to be a whole platform, here’s a huge number of musicians, by the way, i’m going to revive the project heroes of dreams. because now a

lot of young talented musicians ask: what and where? the question is often asked: what was easier now for musicians or for us then? this just seems to me to have its pros and cons, that is, yes, there were much fewer of us then, we didn’t have such access to technology, on the one hand, on the other hand, we still had a limited number, well, there were a dozen teams from st. petersburg, a dozen there from, now there are hundreds and thousands. just as it was in our time in the late eighties, when rock clubs were born , now in fact the musicians and the surrounding music community, those who are involved in video production, management, designers, photographers, should unite again, this trend is about

creating new such youth cultural clusters, this is a trend in my opinion correct, because here we are, having lived 30 years of such a, well, liberal, one-man mentality... as a society and especially as young musicians, we are back to that story when in order to develop further we need to get to know each other, support each other, exchange each other with energy and move on with each other, that’s actually the trockhero project, it’s about cultural clusters that now need to be created creatively, i don’t like the word creative, creative, new in general houses of culture, so that it’s community, because that’s what the sverlov orchestra club was, there was no one else there, besides musicians there were music lovers, there were photographers, designers,

historians, journalists, this is alexey balabanov, this is all one core, an art association, that was something is not born from it, at that time, let’s say, there was an educational radio station maxim, we tried on everything that is now, that is, we were an educational platform, a kind of beacon, behind which we were reaching out, what could be now, could there be any -a radio station that would did not play hits, because one already exists, but which would play only fresh, new russian groups, or it should be some kind of internet platform, some kind of portal, on which, firstly, there would be a very the right moderator, like you or vadim, who would select... pass through tons of this musical information and select, post only the best, people would come in, vote, download, i don’t know, these hits, then, according to the results , say, an annual vote, we

would organize some kind of rock festival, with exclusively by young artists, i absolutely agree, it seems to me that these two ideas need to be combined into one, that is, there really is some kind of selection that would allow everyone to listen to it. i think, i think this will be a breath of fresh air for the country , because there are a lot of uh, young teams that are looking for this contact, but they don’t, they can’t get anywhere - that means they can get out, so that’s for sure, this is the phenomenon of my project rukhero in 2006, when the internet was still weak, yeah, yeah, but only thanks to the fact that i collected young groups immediately put them on, they immediately appeared on the portal, a person has just posted a composition, you know, listen and it’s formed. apparatus, a community of people very quickly gathered there, who themselves compose, sing something, and a completely different trick is to make it free of royalty, to set a mandatory condition that you can download these songs and use them on the air of other radio stations there without paying a young performer, like this called copyright?

well, i would argue with this, because you’re not young yet, listen, this is for promotion, then yes, they all already leave this portal , then they take their own opinions on the ideas that have now been voiced on this matter, i want to say that it is essential that the community of musicians listen to themselves, communicate with each other, with each other interacted with each other and so that the choice of which of them is better was made by the musicians themselves, as it was in the sverlov rock club, in the st. petersburg rock club in the moscow rock laboratory, and we still have - in russia there is no music award, which would be from academicians, from themselves, from musicians. here i think that it’s all in one, so to speak, these are a few ideas that would help consolidate the musical community, because there is a lot of new music, i can say it’s very advanced, people are young now, there’s some that’s just, well

, they give fantastic results, we need to somehow regulate it, we need to show it, we need to create platforms, and i really hope that ruckhero version 2.0 will happen, because well, we are already big monsters and, of course, i want to devote the rest of my creative work life, your creative powers, not only our new creativity itself, but also so that this clearing here needs to be watered, so that someone follows us further, and so that they communicate with each other, like we did in our time helping each other with our opinions, communication, we actually developed in this way also completely, yes, so i invite all young musicians, listen to each other, of course, be generally interested in each other, do not perceive each other as competitors, from this communication will arise enrichment. there must be competition only positive, but there is already this clearing, there is where to send you some, well, you know, they just find me directly on my social networks there. sends compositions, it’s just that now i’m finally finishing my big

post-agatov album and i’ll be able to get serious about it all, because the demand is great, very great, just agatovsky - will there be a third album of remixes or what? no, no, it’s just that after agatha christie in the ninth year my brother and i officially separated, i several singles were released, several old solo albums, but there has never been such a big full-length album, now it’s ready like a hot cake, everything is fresh, everything is fresh, yes, very cool, i don’t know if it’s convenient to ask what happened to you, why did you break up, and the moment that we had to break up with my brother, it was obvious from the very beginning, agatha christie, because it was clear that he had his own creative path, i have my own creative path, some time we coexisted, and what he wrote as exactly the author, as musicians, like poets, from from the early, from the early, well, in the second album. the second front is already considered the birth of agatha christie, this is already from gleb, the thing is that

as we grow up, yes, if we are still having fun in our youth, we can create images that are almost theatrical in compositions, and there in creativity, this we have not yet lived our own drama of life, as we live through this drama, we, as poets, want to express some of our more personal point of view, that is, we move away from the fictional hero more towards our personal hero, we and brothers are very different, just very different in many ways we are antipodes, so it was clear that our personal heroes, they would diverge at some point, that is, for me it was obvious from the very beginning, and alec was a witness to this, that gleb understood this from the very beginning, which is why agatha christie parted ways. we decided in 2008 that we were recording a farewell album, going on a farewell tour, and actually, this is also the 2000s, that is, this is an adult decision of two adults who we realized that we need to go further apart, you said, you are like that different, i remember you on stage in the golden period of agada christie for me and you looked alike, because you had similar

identical haircuts, you had forelocks, and i was like, damn, this is definitely inspired by robert smith from cure, well, gleb’s influence smith was definitely big, as for the forelocks, but i don’t know, it seems to me that you still know this, it was an early period, you literally had clumps of hair, you were very similar, it was this ural scam. and to add in the 2000s, in my opinion, these are your first two solo albums that you recorded, and, by the way, peninsulas appeared to me precisely in the 2000s, as part of agatha christie , vadim recorded two solo albums, it turns out there is still something to listen to, listen to there and peninsulas and two peninsulas, they are published everywhere, good, podcast 20 years later, i am the host konstantin mikhailov, my guest is the agata group. the end of the first episode

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