[000:00:00;00] and much more advanced than yuliyan semyonovich, firstly, he did not suffer from all sorts of these complexes, relatively speaking, i think that yuliyan semyonovich semenov would have followed this path of creating a holding much longer and not so confidently, because precisely under artyom borovik, a version, a newspaper and a magazine of the person appeared, in general, in general, an advertising service appeared, that is, holdin flourished. but actually without semenov, i remember how they kept ilian semenovich in september of ninety-three, it was such a prudent day, and weiner, his competitor and comrade-in-arms, writer, detective, very famous, said

that we were discussing a completely different story, so... we remembered something, then, a few years later, when vladislav lisyev, the first head of ort of the first channel, was shot , weiner, recalling this story, said that it’s amazing how often murderers stand close to the coffin, i don’t know what he meant, because somehow it was not before that, in fact, i wasn’t interested in it then... , all these things, they actually, as if in a narrow professional circle, are not for who is a secret, there was even once a regular date in the central house of writers , a meeting was arranged, olga came from paris with her grandson semyonov with her son, this is dima likhanov, sitting to the right of the semyonovs, we were

just with dima. this evening, these things were all close, semenovichova, nikita sergeevich sounded in the hall, there was a relative, mikhalkov, because yuliyan semenovich semenov was married to the sister of andrei konchalovsky and nikita mikhalkov to ekaterina, in fact, she is olga semyonova’s mother and i asked nikita sergegevich is there, and nothing surprised you from what you heard. and he said that no, nothing surprised him, but i, since i’m not a professional journalist , i’m surprised all the time, i always can’t get rid of this unnecessary, so to speak, this, i don’t know whether to say quality or lack, to be surprised, that is, i just can’t learn to impartially perceive

information, it, which, of course, greatly interferes with my work, but allows me to think that i am not dooming my soul to death, that my soul is immortal. semyonovich semenov, she is also immortal, and not because he created these works, not because stirlitz is still known, even by those people who don’t know who vesny is, and i think what would have happened if pleshkov did not go to paris then, which would have been top secret, but so as not to be top secret, it was obvious that the vector along which the country was moving could no longer be changed, so that it would be a country, it had already been decided without yulian semenovich semenov and without journalists, the main drawback of yulyan semenovich semenov, for all his

merits, that he was also a man when he says: i also mean myself, this is perhaps the only thing we have in common, that we were naive, because, of course, i would not risk comparing scale, talent, charisma never, but he, he, too, was naive and also assumed that through some kind of agreements, through publications, through the publication of books, it was possible to influence the powerful worlds of everything, but he did not belong to those, although without any doubt, having created the first private publication, he contributed contribution to the end of times, although i remember the controversy with him, he objected in every possible way to some, i was fed up all the time there, i wanted some kind of investigative journalism , to expose something, to write, i had some kind of my material about hazing, and he told me, you can’t, you can’t criticize the army,

you can’t criticize the intelligence services. it’s simply impossible, there are bureaucrats, there is party leadership, but for god’s sake, you can’t touch this foundation, it seemed to me, i thought to some extent. retarded, what are you, yulik, retrograde, i still love you, i thought, but here you are not he was right, and he was right, he, making his contribution to the end of times, understood from time to time much better than i did. this was a podcast about the elimination of ilian semenovich semenov, my name is evgeniy