tv Bolshaya igra 1TV December 5, 2023 11:00pm-12:01am MSK
11:00 pm
prevent russia from receiving adequate compensation for its energy so that these plans fail. on december 7 , iranian president ibrahim raissi will arrive in moscow. but again, there is no need to explain how important russian relations with iran are now; it must be said that it is already generally accepted that russian relations with iran are, by the way, with the democratic people's republic of korea. strongly strengthened during the special operation and that these two countries, which are familiar with american sanctions firsthand, that they were are most inclined to support russia in this difficult time, but today i thought that this day was not exactly free from outstanding events, but not so full of any serious international ones, i thought that this was
11:01 pm
the right time to talk about what is happening with the war in ukraine, around ukraine, what does the failure of the ukrainian offensive mean, and what are the chances, what are the chances for the parties to win, limited, complete, something in between, and i want to be the first to ask you, general yevgeny buginsky. you very often you made correct predictions on this one on other programs, and you said something that, in general, surprised many, even during the russian military failures last fall, you said that you had no doubt about the likelihood of a russian victory, and you they said that when this victory takes place, then, in
11:02 pm
general, ukraine will have nothing to defend itself with. well, in general, your forecast was correct. i want to ask, what's next? you understand, then, of course, i, i cannot predict what will happen next, absolutely for sure, but to assume can. you see, for the ukrainian, for the ukrainian armed forces, these are quite difficult times. firstly, an order followed, however, no one published any uh, orders anywhere, no one saw them, but everyone refers to the order of zelsky, as the supreme commander-in-chief, on the transition to strategic defense, in the west they immediately began to draw parallels with our defense, but a little bit, different circumstances, you see, we have an order to go - to defense was given at the beginning
11:03 pm
of october last year, when there was the transfer was carried out from the right bank of the dnieper when we left kherson, and after that we began - the construction itself, this is a very difficult task, to build a defense in depth, well equipped in engineering terms, the same minefields, the same system of trenches, dugouts, uh , well, there are a lot of elements of engineering, as we call it - in the army of terrain engineering equipment, it’s december, the mud is ending, the ground is already freezing, those videos that i saw are already circulating on the internet, they are already using chainsaws they cut out the frozen soil in order to remove... at least the top layer, that is, now
11:04 pm
for the plus it of course costs a lot of money. in order for the ukrainians to build a deep defense now, but this will take several months, and the winter months, moreover, if we built our defense in conditions where, well, i generally think that ukraine, military aviation, has it, of course , but it is very small... in numbers, what was at the beginning of the conflict, they had order there, as they say, pilots on the wing, somewhere around 200 aircraft, 70% were destroyed, well, after that, from the eastern european countries, the group was restored, but judging by the rate at which our air defense systems, our aerospace forces shoot down planes, they don’t have that many. units of combat
11:05 pm
aviation, so we can count on the fact that they will, so to speak, calmly dig in in the winter, when there is no foliage, when everything is, so to speak, well, it’s true that the clouds are thick, but nevertheless, what our air forces and artillery will allow it’s easy for them to dig in, i think it’s an illusion, so the task very difficult, the second second difficulty is this uncertainty with financing and supplies. moreover, the more talk about american funding, the more it appears... that these 61 billion, god willing , will go to ukraine there, well, about six or seven, everything else will remain in the united states, so to speak, will be used to replenish those reserves that were spent on ukraine, that is, ukrainians should count on
11:06 pm
the fact that a stream of artillery systems will now pour in, especially air defense systems, air defense systems - these are the most expensive, the most expensive pleasure, the most. expensive systems, so the supply of batteries to those batteries, these batteries, that is, eight launchers there, petriot, 12 launchers of arist installations, well , for all these systems, that is, the count is dozens, well, at most hundreds of launchers, i remind you once again, when we in ukraine covered a separate army of air defense systems of various systems there were 1,200, 2003. beech and so on, that is, it will not be easy for them, but if in the plans of our command, as i hope for, i have said more than once, there are plans carrying out an offensive operation, then they will be completely sad, thank you, ruslan
11:07 pm
pukhov, also a regular participant in our program, a leading military expert, and you ruslan, a member of the public council of the ministry of defense, yes it is. i understand that you are speaking in a personal capacity , but still i can’t help but ask you, firstly, do you agree with the opinion of general byzhinsky, and secondly, do you think the entry of american aircraft, especially the f-16, into ukraine can somehow change the situation, especially in combination with new systems air defense, which ukraine also receives, yevgeny petrovich absolutely. i’m right, maybe i would add two elements to his analysis, that we really see, uh, that air defense systems, on both sides, and during the first year of the conflict, the ukrainians had mostly old soviet air defense systems, which they inherited, which, in fairness, it must
11:08 pm
be said, they maintained in good condition, that is, neither we managed to achieve absolute superiority in the air, nor the ukrainians in general practically they could not do anything with their air force, despite attempts to help them and high-precision weapons for a second, they were unable to achieve absolute superiority, but you will not agree that russia has air superiority, russia certainly has air superiority, i would also like to add over the past few weeks, the massive use of so-called bombs with a guided planning module has begun, when an ordinary, so to speak, unguided bomb, with the help of a controlled planning module, becomes a guided weapon. if a few months ago we dropped several dozen of them and only the most modern aircraft, such as su-35, su-34, now we are dropping hundreds of them, last month the ukrainians recorded the use of more than 1,200 attacks with these bombs,
11:09 pm
including old aircraft, su-24, this is a serious help to our troops, who are actually now going on the offensive, we don’t know the plans of our command, but we absolutely see that we have a tight grip on the initiative along the entire line of contact, that the ukrainians really switched to strategic defense, their offensive in the orekhovsk direction fizzled out, these are the small bridgeheads that they managed to create small in the area of the kherson direction on our bank, the dnieper, even some kind of large, some kind of bridgehead in the krynak area, in fact they hit into the same impasse that they have in other places, they cannot develop this offensive of opposition, so the move is now up to us, when it will happen, in what form, and i don’t know this, but what we now we are firmly in control of the initiative - this is a complete fact, thank you, vladimir vladimir
11:10 pm
mikhailovich jabbarov, first deputy chairman of the federation council committee on international affairs, former fsb general, this is the situation in which we... found ourselves, and these are not only our colleagues about they say this, and not only american patrons admit this, they speak about it openly, now, as you know, in kiev, and the mayor of kiev klyuchko. both president zelensky and the high command of the ukrainian armed forces, but not everyone admits that something with their offensive is very fundamentally, it didn’t work out, but at the same time they say, in kiev, unfortunately in washington, that not only should they not conclude from this that we need to negotiate, that we need to show flexibility, no, they say on the contrary: that we need to use some then new methods
11:11 pm
to intimidate and undermine russia, i was greatly impressed by the recent statement of general mark mealy, former chairman of the us joint chiefs of staff, let's listen, there should not be a single russian who goes to bed, not wondering if his throat will be cut in the middle of the night, you have to go back there to create. to be fair to the general , the washington post correspondent did not hear this from him personally, he reports about this statement, citing reliable sources, on the other hand, the washington post dismissed it, so far there have been no refutations, the statement is quite serious, i proceed from that , that the general, if not exactly this, then he said something similar, and please note that the general is talking not
11:12 pm
only and not so much about russian soldiers, he speaks about any russian, how can this kind of mood, perhaps even plans in washington, pose a new threat to russia or is this a shock of air? to be honest, few people expected such words from general miele, because he gave the impression of a rather reserved person - in general, with whom one could talk for at least some period of time, well, what is said is said, if in fact is confirmed, this, to put it mildly, does not look good on him, on the other hand, i think that now what is happening in the relations between ukraine and the united states of america , shows that, in fact , american aid is running out of steam, you know that the americans are openly saying, salevan said and the state department press secretary said that aid
11:13 pm
is running out, almost 97% of the allocated budget has already been spent on ukraine, just a little remains - a little, and by the end of this year this amount will also be selected and used. i think that now it will begin, it will begin with a lot of strange things, well, firstly, in ukraine it is completely, excuse me, disorganized. begins politically, because it is unclear now who for whom is anyone trying, well, to score points in this murky, in this dangerous situation, and the most important thing is that, in general, our russian tactics worked, we did not go head-on, which the americans and ukrainians were really waiting for, we took up an active defense, we now we are taking an active position and, moreover, our army over these almost one and a half, even more than a year has gained
11:14 pm
enormous experience in countering the americans, why am i telling the americans , because in essence we are now at war with the united states of america, no matter what anyone says, and frankly , right now conversations are starting about some kind of negotiations , pay attention, today i even heard and commented on the statement of grigory yavlinsky that it is necessary to choose between russia and ukraine the option that happened: between france and germany on elisas and lataringea there is a disputed territory, but also like the same thing needs to develop in relations between russia and ukraine, but as for these provinces from lataringa, which are aimed at advantage by the germans, because they went to france only thanks to the fact that we made france victorious in the second world war, they received these regions, yes, then they calmly resigned themselves and live normally, because that’s why. the european union had already begun to work and for the residents of these regions
11:15 pm
it did not matter what country they were in. ukraine, this is impossible, as long as this regime exists in kiev, the neo-nazi regime is absolutely, we will never be able to resolve any issues through peaceful negotiations, but in some then on a parity basis, well, with all my respect to grigory yavlinsky, let’s call a spade a spade. in france, then - i cannot say that there was a completely legitimate government, napoleon i, who soon lost his power, after this defeat from prussia, then it became germany, but in principle, in france there was a power that was, i cannot say, elected in relation to napoleon ii, but let's say, created, well, yes, by the french, for france, france was not a country with limited
11:16 pm
sovereignty, yes, this is absolutely, at a time when some parts of france. were under prussian control, there were no acts of terrorism, there were no attempts organize terrorism, for example in berlin, so france then, with all its imperfections, was a relatively civilized and, well, how to say, conventional, conventional, and european state, but what we see now in ukraine is something completely different. and it seems to me that, well, ukraine rests on its russophobia, take away russophobia , not only would it be difficult for ukraine to maintain its unity, but i don’t know why then the collective west would support it, they wouldn’t support it for its brilliant democracy, which is distinguished, from my
11:17 pm
point of view, by the lack of presence, but as for american assistance, let ’s take them from the category, let’s see what the official representative of the state department, matthew miller, just said about this, the situation on the battlefield is very difficult, the ukrainians forces are fighting against a very seriously entrenched russian military, as for additional funding, yes we are absolutely concerned that the previous level of support has almost dried up, we are now relying on residual funds, i think over 97% of them have been exhausted, very soon we are running out of funds, so yes, we are very concerned, which is why mr. blinken has joined the president and other administration officials in calling on congress to act as quickly as possible. and let's listen to how congress is intimidated, what a disaster it could be for american foreign policy if money is not provided to ukraine, as
11:18 pm
jack solivan, president biden's national assistant , makes these dire warnings to congress. security. do you think that whoever votes against aid to ukraine in congress is voting for putin? i believe that any congressman who does not support funding for ukraine is voting for an outcome that will help putin win, voting against supporting ukraine will strengthen putin's strategic position, this is an inevitable reality, and it is not about what caused the decision to vote against, it is about the consequences voting, voting against additional funding for ukraine will harm ukraine. will help russia, this is a blow to democracy and aid to dictators, we believe that this is historically wrong, all congressmen, both democrats and republicans, should vote in favor. well, knowing american political mores, today, keep in mind that jake salevan's statement is still relatively moderate, he said all
11:19 pm
the nasty things that came to our minds about russia and putin, but he did not directly blame the american congressmen. he said that they will objectively help putin if they refuse allocations to ukraine, but if you look at what they say in american media , especially on cnn, where they directly say that those who will not vote for ukraine, they are objectively putin’s agents, no more, no less, but again, this can talk about american politicians or it can talk about despair and desperation not only and not so much regarding the future of ukraine, but it’s not for me to tell you , general buzhinsky, you know how military failures on the eve of the elections, how they can affect the electoral
11:20 pm
chances of the presidents, and biden began his presidency from a catastrophic failure in afghanistan, well, maybe something that we talked about very little before, they won’t give money, or they will give much less, there will be a chain reaction in europe, everything will fall apart in ukraine, is this real or dreams of dreams, absolutely real, but before i answer your question, i have a previous question about evlinsky’s statement, he also mentioned ilse and... strasbourg, and ended up saying that for some reason, why the whole thing calmed down, because the european union was created, and now everything is fine, then yes, as i understand it, he means that on... with ukraine it is necessary to create a union state then, so to speak , there will be no problems, well, god forbid, if this happened, i would be all for it, but equally the 500-day program, which
11:21 pm
is equivalent to the 500-day program, now to answer your question, i believe that biden now has a very difficult situation, in addition to ukraine, he also has the middle east, and in the middle east there is a whole, two whole factions, young democrats and and the democrats, who, so to speak, have some kind of, rely on the arab electorate, everyone , so to speak, is no longer inclined to vote for biden, as for ukraine, again returning to this quote, not a quote, confirmed by a mile, when he says that every russian should fall asleep with the thought of about whether he will wake up and whether he will be cut off. he told this to the ukrainian special forces who were undergoing training in germany under the guidance of american instructors. you know, these
11:22 pm
two articles, the washington post, in which, in one of which this was cited quote, this actually reminds me of, you know, such an attempt to find someone to blame. ukrainians blame. americans that they planned incorrectly, the americans reproach the ukrainians that they are mediocre, so to speak, warriors and did not carry out those plans, did not bring to life those plans that the americans gave birth to, i was more alarmed by the fact that is also translated, cited in the article that the commander-in-chief, or commander of the united european ... command , general cavalli, could not get through to him for a month zaluzhny. for some reason, we were all focused , including the ukrainian and european press,
11:23 pm
that mark milley, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, was visiting something, controlling something there, inspecting something, but it seems to me that they assessed everything incorrectly the role of general mili. general mealey, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, on rotation, so to talk about how airman brown will now plan operations in ukraine, mainly ground operations, he will not plan anything, because planning carried out by the unified command of the us armed forces, in europe, general kovali is the person who provides practical, milliary outside the chain of command, chain of command in the united states, the president, the secretary of defense, the command. or special commands, such as strategic command, space command, and so on. so, kovalia is the person who can and
11:24 pm
is obliged to provide assistance to the ukrainians in terms of planning, in terms of some advisers, logistical support, if he cannot to get through to zaluzhny, this is of course a very alarming, alarming signal, but as for this day... and ammunition, i will repeat once again that firstly, well, today zelsky should ask there again, give 61 billion, well, i don’t know , in my opinion, the position of the republican party, in any case , of a significant part of congress, is that you first solve our internal problems with immigration, and then we will help ukraine, i don’t know how this will be resolved, but even if this money is allocated, that’s all equally , most of them i... have already said about this, will remain in the united states, no , no wide river, no ammunition , because they simply don’t exist, because they need to be produced, the uh, rate of consumption that
11:25 pm
ukraine demonstrated, it’s simply not unsustainable for industry, but because it ’s too low, there was a message, suddenly he demanded from austin 17 million 155mm shells, and yes, 400, 500, 400 - or 300 - 400 billion dollars, well , that's right, osin was surprised there, of course, because 17 million, they simply do not exist in nature , all over the world, and for the fact that they to produce at the current rate of production, for example, in the united states, 24,000 per month, calculate how many years it takes to make up for all this, and as for this gigantic amount. but then they began to say that supposedly for the restoration of ukraine, well , in general, some absolutely fantastic figures are mentioned, and i am absolutely sure
11:26 pm
that... if something happens, it will be much smaller in size than zelsky is counting on, and this will come back to haunt biden, of course, in the upcoming elections, because he will not achieve success in ukraine, ruslan, i want to ask you again about the afghan scenario, and to be clear, i am asking a question, not predicting, because excessive optimism during a war is not a virtue, well, it’s like defeat the us in vietnam was historically inevitable, it could only happen because it couldn’t happen otherwise. south vietnamese
11:27 pm
offensive, even without american troops, with some advisers and some military assistance, the south vietnamese army successfully advanced. then, now you won’t give me anything anymore say, because you have already answered say, because you know much more than i do about what is really happening in ukraine, and i know a little about what happened in vietnam, and so the wise american congress, in quotes, first banned the american citizens fought in vietnam in any role, then they were denied the provision
11:28 pm
of weapons, then ... ammunition, and then fuel, well, the south vietnamese army collapsed like a house of cards, and to say on this basis that this could not have happened otherwise, i it seems, well, slightly simplified at least, well, i’ll tell you more, in fact, before we discuss the second afghanistan, relatively speaking american, few people say in our country that exactly the same mirror situation as with the americans in vietnam happened to us in afghanistan. after the soviet troops withdrew from there in 1988, the najubula government, on the one hand, pursuing a policy of national reconciliation, on the other hand, conducting active military operations, splitting the united opposition of the mujahideen, gained very large positions and they only needed to supply fuel and ammunition, but the government of young reformers in 1992 refused them this, which is why after a few...
11:29 pm
months the front fell and the government fell, he himself was executed, just like in vietnam, i am deeply convinced that there is never a subjunctive mood in war, and south vietnam could win, i will say more, they successfully carried out land reform, the population of south vietnam increasingly supported them, in this sense, the communist government northern vietnam, having understood where this was going, a blow, just a direct intervention, i completely agree with you, you know what unites ukraine and. what unites them is not only their dependence on foreign, in this case american, assistance, but also on their model of war, they did not fight as an army of a liberating country, as north vietnam fought, they fought as the americans fight, air superiority, colossal superiority in heavy artillery, that means...
11:30 pm
simply because the ukrainians are running out, it’s no longer a secret to anyone, not to themselves ukrainians, nor for eastern observers , us in the east of ukraine is not for western observers, about the fact that the male population is hiding from mobilization, yes, that they are grabbing people, trying with various kinds, promises, often deceptive, to attract foreign mercenaries, recently there was a remarkable investigation, in new york times about how colombians who
11:31 pm
are being laid off as part of the reduction of the army , especially those who have mortgage debts, some need to send their children to college, so they are recruited, in fact, to fight in ukraine, luring them with those so to speak, promised even in the event of death 411 in the equivalent of us dollars , which they will be paid, so in ukraine, in addition to the shell famine, yes, there is not enough, just people, there is another point that is connected with this discord in the west between america and ukraine, between european allies america, ukraine again by washington, back in april or may last year they bet on russia’s loss, they bet on the jackpot, they thought that either the ukrainians would advance greatly, or some kind of vacillation would begin within russia, which was inspired there, british intelligence, including german intelligence, the british were just playing for a continuation in the seventeenth year, the bet
11:32 pm
was that the elites would split, so everything was built on this, and when it turned out that it did not work, and there was no other plan , no one in washington, nor in brussels, nor in kiev relied on the korean version of the war, much less iran and iraq, so people are in some kind of bewilderment, but what next, they need to get used to some new reality, they created for themselves some kind of parallel reality, they believed in it, and when it disintegrated like fog, now, i think, by the way, that these serious, quite tough, in some places not even politically correct statements by the same sullivan and general milly, this is rather a good sign, so we have churchill’s famous phrase, when he spoke to someone, he realized that he had... the argument is weak, you need to work on your voice. now, since they cannot help ukraine with deeds, they are trying to help with words, and both earn extra money with their voices. ukraine, geographically being a fairly large state, has
11:33 pm
against the backdrop of the depopulation that has occurred since this country gained independence, and even more so since the beginning of a special military operation, millions of refugees, a huge number. then they just need personnel, which they do not have enough, there is a big game on the air, recently russian foreign minister sergei lavrov said that the united states , the wider collective west, is waging a hybrid war against russia and not only a hybrid one. we were just talking about that war, which is non-hybrid, and which, from my point of view, the united states is clearly leading against russia in ukraine, so the statement, for example,
11:34 pm
by united states secretary of defense austin that russia is the enemy, i take this seriously, because it confirms that the united states is not supporting this war. but a direct and direct participant, but there is definitely a hybrid war, a very serious hybrid war, i have the impression that what kiev cannot, what it cannot achieve on the battlefield, they will try to achieve by other methods, sabotage, you know about what just happened on the railways, tunnels, well, the nord stream is a very... striking example, and the terrorist attacks that we unfortunately encountered, including against our regular participant, alexander dugin, he fortunately survived, due to the death of his
11:35 pm
daughter, daria, that is, ukraine’s readiness to commit terrorist acts is not a hypothetical possibility, this is what they are doing, and we talked, already on this program, about that ilya ponomarev is a fugitive deputy of the state duma, and his origins, he has family ties with former secretaries of the cpsu central committee, this is not the fault of the cpsu secretary, these are just interesting circumstances, so this is a man who openly spoke about his role in organizing terrorist attacks on russian territory , on the territory of moscow and st. petersburg, which led to the casualties of people who were undoubtedly not military personnel, but were civilians who were simply expressing their patriotic opinion, and
11:36 pm
this man, according to the washington post, or more precisely, because he told the washington post, not only was he recently in washington, but he told the washington post what a busy schedule he had of meetings with american officials, well, i’m trying to imagine that outright terrorists, people who directly took themselves responsibility for terrorist acts, so that these people come to moscow, at least without any explanation of what they were negotiating with them about, the release of hostages, about some kind of mediation, but no mediation, this person does not offer, does not asks, he says that he wants to deal with... russia, well, this is a serious
11:37 pm
crime, terrorism, this is recognized throughout the world, i think that ukraine will now slide to the point where it will try to bite russia with such acts, terrorism , sabotage, because it doesn’t have the strength for more , it can’t cause real damage to our country now, because most of the armed forces of ukraine have been crushed, terrorism is a very dangerous thing, because you know, essentially weekly, sometimes every day reports and messages are coming the central center of public relations of the fsb of russia, regarding the suppression of certain terrorist acts, you know, i think that here it is still necessary that our population, especially as regards young people, should be larger.
11:38 pm
what can an attempt to participate in such crimes lead to, well, when they are involved, they promise some kind of fees, we probably need to talk more about this on television, in the news, on the internet, moreover, i think, the trials that take place over terrorists , by the way, there are a lot of ships, you know, in donetsk and lugansk people's republics, in general, they need to be covered somehow in the press so that people know, and most importantly. of course, the punishment needs to be made as severe as possible. i’m not saying that the death penalty should be introduced, this is a controversial issue, but i want to tell you that sometimes life imprisonment is worse than the death penalty, as the people who are serving this life sentence say. of course, a big role, a big responsibility lies with the security agencies, without question, but people must also understand that they cannot every corner, on everyone, but
11:39 pm
we need to talk about this, you know, just now i already spoke once on your program, a lot of attention is paid to working with young people, they need to be told, because well, in moscow there may be more opportunities to get something information, but in order for this work to go on in the regions, it is necessary to tell young people what this misconception of theirs can lead to, that they can earn a little money there. money and there won’t be anything terrible for it, but i’m thinking about something else now, i think that what ’s happening in our country now indicates that that some of our enemies are behind, the americans did not have time to finish us off, so i remember the nineties, in fact, by the end of the nineties, the beginning of the 2000s, well, russia was on the verge, well, in fact, its destruction of fragmentation, because remember the parade of sovereignties that was declared, take as much sovereignty as you want,
11:40 pm
said boris nikolaevich yeltsin, remember, the creation of some ural republics of the far eastern attempts to create such entities, all this is already behind us, but there was a moment when it was actually very scary, i think that by the beginning of the 2000s, now many began to forget that banking actually existed, that is, people who appropriated the people's wealth felt like masters of the russian land, that is, they were not even interested in power, they could bet on those in power, uh , in the places of power of those people to whom they paid money , they made money from it, received profit from the state, so it all started, i remember, with boris verezovsky, now deceased, who was the first to understand that putin’s rise to leadership country, reigns for him, poses a great danger for him, you remember, he... surrendered his mandate as a deputy of the state duma
11:41 pm
, left our country forever, the rest realized this a little later, remember what the yukos empire did in the country, remember the series of contract killings that they arranged to remove unnecessary competitors, because there was a moment when we could lose part of our national economy, there was, is and exists such a structure as avismo, yes, this is a manufacturer of titanium, which by the way we supply to america, because we almost almost lost to the industry, and at the cost of incredible efforts by the state, the shares of minority shareholders were bought out, control was restored, and most importantly, we stopped it. the destruction of defense enterprises , which were essentially on their last legs, and you remember how specialists left there en masse , some went to the west, some could get a job somewhere, i think that now it is no longer possible to defeat our country, that’s what we understood that we would have almost
11:42 pm
ruined ourselves, do you remember the first time when sanctions began to be imposed against russia there were restrictions, our youth sometimes said, well, how can we not travel? to france, to greece, to cyprus, it seems normal, we can do without these trips, when there are regimes there that will be normal, friendly towards us, the sanctions will be lifted, then everything can be resumed. i think we realized that the west was just such a beautiful label, a wrapper that many of our people tried to buy into. and that government that you mentioned, or rather our reformers of the young gadarovsky call, of course, here i am somehow i say. in one of the programs during the time of chubais, when he headed the ministry of property, half of his deputies were employees of established intelligence officers of the united states of america, they were in the federal commission for the securities market, that is, everywhere they penetrated quietly and lived, worked in government agencies, having an american
11:43 pm
passport directly linking those associated with special services, all of this was avoided, this is what saved... our country, because look how the russian economy has risen in these 2 years, i think even in the west, they are surprised that the russian economy has made such a breakthrough in these 2 years, has mobilized, but it’s probably not in vain, we need difficulties, after that we begin to overcome well, thank you, we’re off to advertising and i want to continue the conversation about possible instability in russia, what the collective west will achieve for ukraine with its help, and i will ask each of you about how the situation in this regard is with the russian elites, and you generals, especially, how is the situation in this regard with the russian army, we are going to advertising, and we'll be back in just a few minutes,
11:44 pm
there are questions that don't have answers, but there are others. to which precise and direct answers will be given. you can ask your question now by calling 800-200 40-40 via sms to number 04040 or through the websites moskvadefisputinu.ru and moskvadefisputinu. rf. all details are on the websites. results of the year. december 14 at 12:00 moscow time. rum. castro is a product of stetel group. the legacy and predictions of henry kessenger, who he was,
11:45 pm
a puppeteer or just a translator of the ideas of world government. international there will be no stability until both the soviet union and the states behave with restraint, what he did in vietnam, the bombing of cambodia, when he bombed the country in the stone age, there is a house of rockfillers, and they need the face of the project, kissinger becomes this face , then, when the soviet union talked with kissinger, he clearly understood that he was talking with one of the masters of the world, he said that the major great powers should work within the framework of one world order, they compete with each other, peace negotiations should begin in the coming 2 months, otherwise upheavals will begin , you can say one thing to your face, but do something completely different and think about a third, this man who has always held a mine in his hands for only one purpose, which, of course, is to undermine the regime in russia. henry kissinger, eternal and controversial, dolls of the heir tutti, tomorrow on the first. here is his real passport, his
11:46 pm
name is arnold deitch. he used this passport to travel to the uk. an operative of the highest. class, he attracted to cooperation with soviet foreign intelligence a number of disinterested assistants, sources of invaluable classified information. kim philby recommended donald maclean as a friend whom he knew shared communist ideology. 17 or 20 agents is a remarkable achievement, but the most important thing is the cambridge five. kalin dalis estimates that the hembrian five are the most effective, most powerful group of intelligence officers of the second world war. recruitment is the intelligence officer's sharpest weapon, but it is double-edged and can be cut on any person. for the first time, the foreign intelligence service of the russian federation has declassified documents.
11:47 pm
before us is a map on which the exact place of death is marked. yes, he was no longer alive, but as they say, his work lived and conquered. premiere, names of illegal intelligence arnold. on sunday on the first. there is a big game on the air, sometimes they say that russia has never lost a major war, this is not entirely true, if we are not talking in the long-term historical perspective, for some period of time, of course there were defeats, but it seems to me that these defeats had one common feature: this happened when it was not easy some kind of popular movement, for example , stepan razin, pugachev,
11:48 pm
something else, more was required, firstly, a split among the elites, and secondly, some very serious situation with the army, which was losing faith not only in the government, but you also want to serve the fatherland, i think about the time of troubles when the poles were able to reach moscow, enter it, because a significant part of the boyars helped them, i think about the first world war, which russia formally did not lose, but in practice it was treated like a defeated country, and this of course happened in largely because most of the elite turned against not only... the emperor, but the entire existing system, i am now reading the very interesting memoirs of pavel
11:49 pm
kurlov, who at one time was the deputy minister of internal affairs and the chief of gendarmes, and he simply describes how not only the conservative leaders of the duma, but also the high command of the army including the chief of staff, the imperial staff of the general and several grand dukes, as they entered into some kind of conspiracies to remove the tsar from power, in such a situation it turned out to be possible at first the february revolution, well then the offensive, a major offensive by germany, when you look at the russian elites, you see some kind of split that a hostile country could take advantage of. speaking about any possible assassination attempts, i absolutely don’t believe in it, i rule it out, i
11:50 pm
’m generally impressed by many, uh, in the years that have passed since the collapse of the soviet union, but i remember how i worked, well, i will to talk only about military counterintelligence, how it worked during the first chechen war and how it worked during the second chechen war, this is heaven and earth land, there , as my friends, so to speak, told me, the intelligence network was practically lost, there were very big, so to speak, difficulties with personnel, in the second chechen war it was already a completely different military counterintelligence, i think this applies in general to structure of the federal security service, now regarding the situation in the army, i believe that the most obvious measures, how, firstly, is the army monolithic, and secondly, what is
11:51 pm
the moral state of the army, he says, the number of contract soldiers, i operate only according to the figures officially cited by dmitry anatolyevich medvedev, who answers , 450,000 people signed the contract . of course, i understand that some of them went on rotation, but according to the most conservative estimates, as far as i can say, i can assume that we have somewhere around 200,000 people who are in the reserve, and yes, we had a partial mobilization of 300,000 people, uh, there is no talk of a new wave of mobilization now, everyone is talking about it, starting with the chairman of the state duma committee, general kartopolov, and ending with the president russian. federation, that we have no need to carry out any further mobilization, so i believe that there are not only
11:52 pm
splits, but even no cracks in our armed forces... neither in the command staff, nor in the rank and file, sergeants, who bear the brunt of a special military operation, thank you, in general, by nature, i am a pessimistic optimist, in other words, i always proceed from the fact that if you behave correctly, especially if you are not you, in this case great nuclear power, if you behave correctly, then everything will end well in the end, but i am a pessimist in the sense that anything can happen if you don’t take adequate measures, and there is such a good russian proverb, even a cat can shit, so you have to look very convincingly
11:53 pm
at a variety of possibilities, and as the general said: general dzhabarov, of course, there is a very large field for work here for the special services, but what worries me now is, in fact, not so much attempts at terrorism against russia, but attempts to use, from my point of view, hybrid terrorist methods in order to narrow the opportunities for the russian leadership and, accordingly, for the whole of russia to pursue an effective international policy. i mean this so-called court in gaga, which from my point of view should be qualified as a terrorist organization, because the idea that they can arrest, on an absolutely flimsy pretext, look what is happening in gaza, and no one thinks comes to arrest netanyahu on a completely
11:54 pm
flimsy pretext, to issue an arrest warrant. leader of russia for allegedly transferring children from orphanages in ukraine illegally to russia, on this basis, issue a warrant for his arrest, i believe that all the people who are involved in this should be declared criminals, i think that they should be put on the wanted list, this is the case when i agree with the israeli intelligence services, who say that those... who are guilty of terrorism against israel, that we will find them and deal with them, wherever they are, so i would like this approach to those people who, from my point of view, are not only blackmailing russia with the possibility of such hybrid terrorism, but who also want to put this terrorism into action.
11:55 pm
i have no doubt that russia has sufficient resources and sufficient, i’m not afraid to say , imagination on how to use these resources in order to quickly discourage engaging in this kind of blackmail against russia, in principle, it seems to me that our conversation was very optimistic, i don’t think we have the right to, as they say, open champagne and to celebrate victory, i don’t think we have a reason, to say we have already won , to lose activity, i don’t think we have the right to stop very closely monitoring what ukraine is doing, the ukrainian leadership, but if we compare, what kind of there was a conversation on the same topic a year ago, and
11:56 pm
what a conversation we had today, i would like to say new year’s greetings comrades, it was a great game, we’ll meet tomorrow on the air. this is an easy money podcast, i am its host , mikhail khanov, and today we are studying how much you need money to give birth, raise a child, give him an education, well , the main thing is probably to raise him, how much does it cost, to raise two children, three, how benefits from the state will help with this, in fact, the topic is very complex, and we have to figure it out sofya lyalikova will help, hello, sofya,
11:57 pm
sociologist of the russian academy of sciences, employee of the sofia institute, how to generally approach this topic so as not to break your head, i apologize for such a simple language, but nevertheless. heard our key question today's program, he also puzzled me, because really, how can one evaluate parental love for children and in what equivalent should it be translated, and so on. in fact, when we talk about money in the context of a family, we must understand that we are not talking about multimillion-dollar investments in our child or in our children, but we are talking about creating the most favorable conditions for the fulfillment of the needs for children, each of us has a certain level of value. including we can roughly imagine how many children wanted to have in the future, we meet a partner , and when we communicate with him we understand whether our attitudes coincide or not, and then the fulfillment of the needs for children, which we have already
11:58 pm
developed under the influence of our life experience, family value systems, and so on, is already influenced by material conditions. if we are talking about barriers that prevent the birth of children, then there is a huge number of research agencies, they study these reasons that... allow us to refuse to have a child or postpone it for a certain, and sometimes even for an indefinite period, so in all these ratings it is material difficulties that win, followed by housing conditions with less popularity, but this tandem of two key barriers to which measures of family demographic policy need to be directed is precisely in order to support children, families with different numbers of children, well, let's figure it out gradually, because in principle. you have set two main vectors around which i think our dialogue today will be conducted. how much here it’s important to even take my, say, grandparents and the post-war period, when there weren’t even men
11:59 pm
to have children, but because our country suffered huge losses in the great patriotic war, but no one i thought about money, no one thought about whether it would be enough to raise or not, well, how can we not... we will survive , yes, i myself have four children, and i cannot say that when the first children appeared, i thought that i had enough money, not enough, well, because money is involved in education it’s like air, but well, it occupies all the space, that is, no matter how much money you have, you will spend so much, because this is an instinctively inherent love for offspring, in fact, this is the main essence of being there for a person, in my opinion on earth, yes this is love, this is life and procreation, why now the emphasis has shifted... let 's go back to the first reason, why now the emphasis has shifted specifically to the material component, whether we can afford or cannot have a child, that's where it came from so it's evenly worldwide,
12:00 am
or are there still countries that give birth without regard for money, yeah , well, in fact, the answer to this question lies in the level of economic development of the country, and the richer and more developed the country, the higher the level of claims, accordingly, parents today are subject to huge responsibility, they want to give their child the whole world, the concept of responsible parenthood is very popular today, where we must first achieve success in our careers, earn a certain capital, provide our family with decent living conditions, and only then we will think about children, 70% of russians spend from 20 to 40% of their income on children, directly, in general on children, respectively, in each region, each person has a different family income and, accordingly, the share of finances that is spent and dedicated for children, it also varies, but nevertheless the structure of these
12:01 am
36 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on