nikrashev. hello everyone, this is a free program podcast. i'm maxim tronkov. and my guest is a wonderful coaching duo. honored trainers of russia. irina zhuk and alexander svinin. hello, welcome. very nice. most often, i probably communicate here with dancers , coaches, everything related to ice dancing, i immediately have a question, what’s wrong with our dances, this is the biggest mystery, which it seems to me, worries all fans and specialists, intrigue, everything will be fine soon, it's just such a short period time, so i think that literally in the near future all these couples who are now like... with average people will be at the top,

so i’m not even saying what’s there, that is, now i’ll interrupt you need to watch the average people, not the unfortunately, it so happened that most of the couples are now new and , well, that is, the partner found another partner somewhere, there is still a moment they moved to another coach, well , this is the situation, but i want to say that there are a lot of couples that are really potentially very... .. strong, so you need a little, well a little time for them to grow up and show themselves in all their glory, but it seems to me that you are exactly the coaching tandem that in a very short time always created some bright duets, well, even remembering yan khakhlova and seryozha novitsky, yes our european champions in 2009, they somehow just appeared suddenly and almost immediately went to the olympics in turin, in 2001 we became... coaches, yes, already in 2006 you were at

the olympics, we ourselves did not expected that no one expected, and we didn’t expect either, somewhere there was dancing ice, where the queue is, where it is necessary to raise people so that people understand what they are doing, so, well, we were just interested ourselves, that’s when we ourselves, in general, were just starting at that time, this was our first such serious couple , so we were just interested in working with them, because the guys are really talented, and since we just returned. literally from the theater, for many years some elements from there performed as figure skating, that is, you returned from england from the russian stars theater, yes, tatyana is there anatolyevna was in charge of all this, so we took a lot from there, and we followed the path to make it seem interesting, even neglecting some technical aspects a little, but promoting it so that the couple would like it, this is the coolest thing that they...

we most often invite specialists to give us hints, no, of course we read , we try to remember how your roles are divided, a technician and a choreographer or a choreographer and a technician or both technicians, well, can i tell you how it happens, well, first of all it all starts with music and i completely trust sasha in this regard, because the way he composes, cuts this music in general, he has an amazing ear, the fact that he plays...

the guitar now, and you make all the music yourself, yes, because we seem to be more often previously , we turned to professionals, but then, uh, well, in order to put on the program, we know where our elements will be. so now i just started making music specifically for a certain element that will be in the program, he really swears at me during training, it’s scary when i say: no, i can lengthen it a little here , i can cut it here, i need to do it like this here, he says, maybe you could rearrange it, i say, no, that’s impossible, it ’s a masterpiece, we usually have it when a program is presented, the performance begins , then by the end of the performance there, first let’s say i have free program number one, by the end then... at the end of the performance i have free program number 27 there, of course, when i usually add the performance begins, we begin, that alexander, yes, as you say, arguments begin , naturally, but they give birth, naturally

, i always give in, max, always, yes, always, it seems to me, no, a wise woman, like mine, or something, a wife, right, i i’m telling you, this... this is generally a very creative process and you never know what will happen, every time i get terribly nervous, for everyone, probably, the end of the season is a holiday, for me it’s just such stress, because i understand that i need to deliver this, this, this, this to everyone, and i need to do it quickly so that they we managed to skate at least a little before the vacation, then come back after the vacation to redo half of it, because you rest and see a little differently, but it’s still such a creative process, and of course... i like sasha at this point, he endures, endures , looks, and i keep waiting for him to tell me, ira, this is so cool, this is so great, in general, what you did, he’s so fine, good, i say, but you can’t somehow inspire me, so that i could fly straight and

set it up better, well, no, that’s fine, well, i’d like to redo all that, well, i it seems that this is all very calm, it seems that he is. when he makes cool music, i say shura, it’s brilliant, it’s absolutely amazing , no one could do it like that, it’s just bravo, that’s how i praise him, i always wait for him to do that to me. never ira, now complain ira, well, understand that a woman, she always inspires a man to do great things, a man, unfortunately, i also inspire you for these programs, but sometimes he

says toasts at birthday parties, and brings me to tears, because only on my birthday i can hear praise addressed to you, in the coaching room you have a common one or men's and women's, no, general, general, is there a debate going on in the coaching room? how, that is, it’s not until the evening, everything is in the morning, how? well, yes, this is generally a difficult question, but i skated in a pair, i wanted to say that you know, this is me for the audience, i’m just revealing a little for our dear ones how everything works here, no, really, it seems to me that not a single coaching team works without disputes, there are always some, we have a big team, we are waiting for the truth, well, that’s us let's argue, yes, yes, tatyana. tarasova is a person who somehow was always next to your coaching tandem, but there is nothing bad, good, i think, only good, but 2006, selection for the olympic games in turin, the third number of the national team was kulikova,

novikov , who a year before the olympics changes his partner to olya orlova, and this. some beetle with pork, some khokhlova, who are all these people, we’ve all been stewing here for a lot of years, we know all the dance coaches, here are some new ones who are so beautiful together. they come out and beat a couple, tarasova and tatyana anatolyevna, we ourselves were in shock, and they go, moreover, even the coaching council, our beloved, still sends your couple to the olympic games, and after that tatyana anatolyevna tarasova is still always with you ,

yes, there was such a thing, and it was also the last coaching job, such a full-fledged one, with which tatyanevna could go to the olympic games. wow, we didn’t think about it, didn’t even think about it, yes, firstly, can i start about tatyanna, that is, she told you how yes, well, i’m just... very good i remember this time, it’s very good , well, you’ll tell us later separately, we’re very pleased that after that tatyanaevna very often came to us for training with yana and seryozha, she gave us very valuable advice, sometimes she brought me to s, when danatonevna comes, it’s serious , as it were, we prepare for it, because we bring ourselves, we know what it is, that is, tatyana antonevna always says, well , i think you know, yes max, the truth. recently in this chair i know everything, so if she she will come again, she will come in such a not very good

mood, then that’s all, they will tell you everything that you did, didn’t do, and so on, but if she does something like that, you want to fly straight into space when she does that , today i look so quietly at her reaction, i’m even afraid to approach her when she ’s watching new programs, i keep thinking that now there’s going to be some kind of explosion, it’s just going to... scold me, scold me, i don’t care, she my coach, i skated with her, well, it happened, yes, it happened, of course, like that, when i see what she likes , i can honestly say, i just exhale, i think, god, really, really like something, always to the point, comments, always precise, some nuances like that, and it works 100%, well, yes, why did she decide to help you to such an extent? this is the past in the theater, we were in the theater, of course. i skated with her for 6 years from childhood until well, one might say

, adulthood, but i also finished early, well, let’s not talk about it, but the most important thing is that we then worked together in the theater for a long time, of course, from her we also picked up this creativity, some kind of direct pressure , but can you tell us a little about this theater, because it seems to me that we generally believe that the pioneer ilya the verbukh. ice shows, but was it already all the stars or something right? at first there were all the stars, in fact, yes, so i skated in sports with ilyana anatolyevna tchaikovskaya, and well, this is also a brilliant coach, this is a great person, so, but when my career was coming to an end, tatyana antonevna came up to us and offered such an option that we we were skating at the theater, this is sash, i’m sorry, i’ll interrupt. let me remind you that this is not raw, this is with olgozhinskaya, with a partner in sports

, it’s 1900 outside, this is about eighty- seventh, i don’t remember exactly this, but i only remember when there was silver at the european championships, this is silver , because i was born, a nightmare, we’ve already been so many years old, just count it, count it, that’s why, well, she kind of came up to us. suggested this kind of story, and we agreed, because well, a skater, when his career ends, what can he do, he literally knows how to skate, but we haven’t yet proven what we wanted in sports, oh, it was very interesting, in general it was so interesting for us, such were the performances, we were so passionate about this matter, in general i just remember this time , this is some kind of course... but in fact we

have learned a lot and we still use a lot, that is, we imagine how you can , let’s say, do the same program and how from the side, let’s say, from the theatrical side you can turn it like this , to make it interesting, i always like the expression, this theatrical talking back, for some reason i like it so much when your back is... working towards the judges there or towards the audience, it should be speaking, that is, you can’t slouch, as if your back has eyes, for some reason i generally like this expression talking back, sports talking back, my hump, she always talked about me, where i came from, where i came from for this olympics , what year, okay, are you from the urals, are you, no, no, well, here are some expressions we still use... good expressions in our coaching vocabulary, but tatyana tolna, she’s just a treasure trove

of these expressions, i say, anatonevna, when you’re in a good mood, you have to go right after you to record, this is something, i remind you that our guests are honored coaches of russia, irina zhuk and alexander svinin. olympic games 1984, and alexander svinin with olga volozhinskaya, participants in the olympic games, and ira is sick. yes on tv, yes as usual, in general , but no, it’s true, i couldn’t get to four olympiads, no, that’s true, no, that’s 84, no, i ’m actually saying this already, that’s still. ok ir, you i watched how sasha performed and took seventh place at the olympic games, for me it was the first time i got to the olympic games - it’s just such happiness, such a holiday that i still experience, that is, this is the first time i got to this a situation where there are so many athletes, so many stars in one village, this whole

dining room, this is some kind of game room , that’s all, but i just... wanted exactly this, so i got it, so i i still remember the olympic games, my first ones, and we teach all our athletes that the olympic games are a holiday, first of all, you should go there and give pleasure to other people, to look at you. the incomparable torvil edin shone at this olympiad, i would like to talk a little about them, because a year later you took part in... in the professional world championship, the world championship among professionals, such were the competitions, you lost just a little there, not just a little bit, but according to the balls, and i remember how they prepared with olga, it was so cool, they’re right, we were in the same theater and they were preparing for this professional event, it’s absolutely crazy, they really were so unique live, they were like in

the body, we worked with them in the theater, went on tour for 3 years, we had three tours there were, and there were large ones for half a year. well, now, if someone sat down for a minute, now they would get such points that they would then remember it too, probably for the rest of their lives, at that time they had an idea, they took risks, they tried some things, well, no one could have thought , that this can be done, then it’s very good very much, well, now i’ll finish it in just a little bit, literally 2 seconds, i was waiting for such guests,

you sit forever and pull out what interrupts. technically very ready, in this couple the partner was just everything, and jane was with him, well, she’s a brilliant partner in the sense that, well, she’s kind of like that, well, not really skinny, but when with her, so how we skated in the show, we did lifts there with different partners, so when you do a lift with her, she does it so well, well , right, she holds her back so much, so jumps into your hands, but when the realization came that that was it , it was time to stand on the other side of the side, put on this down jacket with greasy sleeves, this one, how they came to this

, came back, came back, it turns out they didn’t stay in england, we by the way, they offered it in england. and we somehow missed russia so much in general then and we said no, no , we’ll try for some reason we wanted to try it here in 2001, yes, well, we didn’t leave at all , we just worked there for 8 months and came to russia for 4 months and had a rest somehow i don't i know they were doing some business here , the apartment was standing well, something had to be done somehow. have time to do repairs , well, something like that, and then they left again for 8 months, well, but i kept waiting for us to go back, for 22 years you have already been a coaching tandem, it seems to me that you know your students, well all figure skating fans for sure, that is, this is a khokhlovatsk time, i’m one of the big ones, yes, of course i also have my favorite rubles above the chef,

forgotten, it seems to me, very wrongly. because now they are very good too coaching, very talented, and of course stepanova bukin, with whom you have also come a long way, two olympic cycles, if i’m not mistaken, 16 years old, 16 years old, and you - i know that the topic is unpleasant and we will touch on it as superficially as possible, but we can’t talk about you, no matter how the audience can’t forgive me, they won’t be able to if i don’t touch on this topic, it’s clear that for everyone it was a drama, but i’m interested... something else, it just seems to me that this is all around you the couple connected a huge number of people, in addition to sasha and vanya, then there were vanya and sveta sokolovskaya's parents there. because she has family ties there with sasha’s husband, yes, now and somehow you always had such family ties in photographs , which, like all this now, that is, everything is

just completely, well, now it’s complicated, that’s it, but i think that it takes time for this to normalize a little, but in general , it was very good for us to work with sasha, with vanya, that’s how long it took, how long did we work? 16 years, well 15, then alexander. gone 15 years, that is, it’s quite a long time, and that’s how they flew into this, as it were, elite, it was also very interesting, because yana and seryozha graduated, so it turned out that katya and rubleva also graduated then, they came to this coaching activity, so it turned out that we had two couples, we had no one left, it doesn’t remind you of this time now, it’s about the same, but uh.

they have never lost a single grand prix, it’s unique, it’s just that there was a couple who took and reached the adults in something like this, well, in general, this is our first a couple that we raised from scratch to the top, in general, to serious results in europe and the world, after all, there were young people, they came to us as young people, but not from scratch, that is...

with one foot i’m standing like this, they don’t allow ivan bukin, again, we still don’t understand , they’re taking two of us, and i

’m wondering why, this happened, well, yes, it happened , there’s covid, it’s 22, i’m passing by again, four olympics, and you passed by, you got sick, no, they just didn’t take me, just one coach, one. but i saw there some athletes who, five people at a time, just brought bag carriers with them and as if everything was fine, this happened, i’m still waiting, i’ll wait, i don’t know, i’ll wait, i’ll wait, okay, well, this is my biggest dream, to get there as a coach to the olympic games, i send this to the universe, i want to go to the olympic games. do you remember the moment in general, because the guys told me the moment when they said goodbye, and it seemed kind of crumpled, as it seemed to me, but in principle i heard them, because i also left the coaches once, yeah, and not there

normal words, it’s impossible to leave normally , to part with, at least with the russian mentality, that is, not like under a contract , but somewhere where you can leave and come back, well , we’ve worked it out, we’re a little different, we let in too much into ourselves, we are like vova zhenya, this is... there are just few trainers who grow from scratch and bring them to the top, going through all the stages - good, bad, and hard, very

hard, that's why. of course, the roots of tears sprout, i held on, yes, i held on until the last moment until i watched a sad film and there, of course, i gave emotions, but it was still a very difficult season, that final season, where the olympic games, covid , everything else, of course, any path is overcoming, it’s huge, it’s nervous. this is, believe me, as an olympic champion, this is an overcoming, of course, this is what maybe you don’t get to the olympic games for 4 years, maybe someday you’ll get there so much that maybe you’ll even take something away from there, because this overcoming is always rewarded, i hope we we are still waiting for you, you are not waiting, you are working , you have young, talented couples, we are working , we are still here, although we are already quite a few years old,

of course, but... i hope that we still have enough strength, so to raise a couple, which , again, from scratch, and we will bring it to the top and it will remain with us forever, for some reason i believe in this, yes, that we can do this, yes, we now have wonderful guys and i want to say, taking this opportunity to thank you very much, the only thing there will be very difficult for gorelkin, of course for yours, gorelkin, leontilo gorelkin, why is it so hard? well, there he will have to fight off every suitor, partner, well, he’s ready, i just wanted to say about them, how they felt this situation when our main couple left, and how they surrounded us with such love, just like that they tried to do everything so that we would not be upset, so that we would not worry, and it was so

touching, we felt it. to survive, it’s probably correct to say that if you invest, you invest an athlete and for some reason, for example, as with bukin, they don’t invite him to the olympiad there, they say, the explanation is our holiday, and we invite whoever we want to this holiday, or let’s say, just like rubleva shefer, this is also your olympiad, which you could also go as a coach, because there would be two couples, but they are being released in favor of the young ones,

and it was also a difficult case. this is a couple , i am from perm, not from kirov, and we have been together since childhood, we are the same age, we are dancing, i am there in pairs, we once moved to big cities together, somehow we always we were friends when i went to the olympic games in vancouver, they didn’t go, it seemed very unfair to me at that moment, because just because the guys, well, you’re already old, we’ll take the young ones, oh, i remember that right now , this is also such a situation, well, it was actually very offensive.

he held on, we looked at each other like that, and sasha didn’t go, because yana and seryozha changed the program, remember, yes, and he stayed in moscow, and i had to go alone, also to qualify for the olympics games, but a psychologist came with us, who supported the guys and me, because it was not easy for me either, and we were like that, just like flints and flints, like that , we held on, held on, then we left katya and hugged ... they burst into tears because vanya is a man, of course, he held on, well, there are such stories in sports too, now they are great coaches, it seems to me that in ice dancing you have the toughest one, this story, with these queues , do you need a queue or don’t need it, don’t need it, i think it’s a shame, that we can’t do it that way, that there’s no queue, if people are great at skating, but they don’t have

a rating. it happens when a couple rolls back really well, but it happens that a couple doesn’t roll back well and wins , that is, it works in the opposite direction, it happens like that too, yes, when there is a high rating, and the couple makes a mistake, well, how is it... sometimes they forgive some moments when a young couple comes out, then usually they say, well, you need to grow up, now i have a question about my favorite form of figure skating, this is pairs skating, and you performed.

this year it was somehow i don’t even remember tamara nikolaevna wanted or tamara nikolaevna first said so they agreed right away quickly yes because last year she said she would like something like that in contrast , it’s still so bright there well, bright and strong, and here i wanted something so romantic, love, and somehow it turned out that this is just a dream of love. it’s easier, because the first year was difficult, i got excited, it’s also something new for them, but this is already the second year, it’s already been the second year everyone liked it, yes, yes, they didn’t know them either, well, not as people, just as

athletes, no, just different specifics, well , to do such elements, well, why should you waste time on these steps, you need to learn this. in general, i always bow my head before pair skating, because i can’t imagine how you can jump, skate in pairs, do these crazy lifts, at the end of the program this lift or throw out there in the last seconds, i say that this is not even single skating for me impressive, always in pairs, not because you and i we sit and talk, but it’s just that all my life the box seems to me to be such a partnership, it seems to me that since we are duets, we are more than each other, it’s so difficult. i’m also interested in watching dances, well, free programs mostly, but i’m interested in watching dances, you know, how interesting it can be, we took singles, we had in our coaching career, singles came to us, and they were good, they were already good the performers,

well, they consider dancing, it’s that they came out and rode a little together, stood with the girl it’s nonsense, i won’t mention his name, but the man who came to us, he just... sat on board and said, yes, this is impossible at all, this is terrible, how can you do this, i don’t have the strength to do this , it’s just not a different job, in general, ice dancing is very difficult when it seems easy to someone, i have one question that interests me, as the son of an equestrian, a master of sports, what kind of hobby does irina zhuk have, oh, i must say, you can cut everything out, this...

hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov, this is a space history podcast, today my guest is daria chudnaya, deputy general director of a private russian space company, journalist. dasha, hello, hello, anton nikolaevich. you graduated from the faculty of journalism, and, as far as i understand, it had nothing to do with astronautics, but somehow miraculously you began to work in the space industry. tell us about your first contact with space? it seems to me that

the key word here is miraculously, because i never planned or i wanted to connect my life with astronautics, with aviation, i didn’t think about it. i’ll explain in general why i didn’t want to say, because my dad has worked in the aviation field all his life, and my grandfather, he was a pilot, so i can say that i can probably say that i come from such an aviation dynasty, and naturally, when i finished. school, first of all my parents asked if i wanted to try to enroll in mine, but there was something in me, moscow aviation institute, moscow aviation institute, yes, but there was something in me, apparently another thing, it seemed to me that i was a more humanitarian person, that i was a more creative person , and i decided to go to the faculty of journalism of the russian state humanitarian university, which i graduated from , probably eight years after i graduated from the university, i was wonderful somehow ended up in the cosmonautics museum, but before we talk about the cosmonautics museum, i will take a step back and tell you about what

happened to me when i was 10-11 years old, because my first contact with space, if we talk about this, it happened exactly at this age, at that time i lived in hanoi, in vietnam, my dad worked there, on duty he met all the important guests who flew into the city of hanoi, and one day valentina vladimirovna tereshkova flew to hanoi, my dad told me that the cosmonaut was arriving, the first woman, i already knew this, i naturally really wanted to meet her, but i don’t remember my first feeling from our meeting, but i remember something else , i remember what she took then card, and signed it for me, my dad gave this card to me, i looked and it was written there, and to the giver of all the best, valentina vladimirovna tereshkova. and i remember, then it

gave me such an incredible wave of warmth, because a lot of people came, they left a lot of autographs, everyone wrote very different things, literally a month before another very famous person came there, who wrote to me: “dasha, listen to dad, i always wash the dishes,” and i was upset, but here there was someone very warm, some very human relationship, this was my first contact with space, then we met very quickly. let's move on to 2014, when i was invited to the position of head of the press service at the moscow museum of cosmonautics, and if you know, then in the fourteenth year a new director came to the museum, they were recruiting a new team, and together with this new team i also came to the museum , i started a completely different life, which i now i can already say that i’ve been working in space for 10 years, so i have absolutely the same feeling, because...

the way we see it now with you, i was probably very different, because i, like many people, had the feeling that a museum is something frozen, that nothing happens in a museum, that a museum is necessarily about some exhibits, behind which it is often not always clear what stands, and especially if it is a scientific and technical museum, so, of course, i had such an attitude towards the museum, i still i didn't understand. what to expect next, what to expect next from this place, little by little we

the team began to develop all this, develop , develop, they did one project, they did a second project, they improved something here, they improved something here, looking ahead, i will say that in 2014 the attendance of the moscow museum of cosmonautics was more than 200 thousand people, in the pre-pandemic year, this attendance was almost 800,000 people, the museum was full. live so that people who are engaged in different professions, different specialties, far, as far as possible from space, so that they also want to come to the museum, so that they are inspired through those stories, which they can hear there, and so that they may further, perhaps, upon leaving the museum , think, or maybe somehow connect their

lives with space, or remember there, i don’t know , some stories that their relatives told them about how their life was already connected with space, that is , the museum would have a task, there were even two of them: the first task, after a person went through the entire exhibition, so that he understood, was filled with this pride in general, that’s because there is any the exhibit you are looking at is you whether you like it or not, it fills you with this pride and joy, probably from belonging, so the first thought is that every person can be the first, just as yuri alekseevich gagarin was the first. space, no matter what field you work in or what area you do something. and the second thought, it, of course, is precisely about the fact that space is an immense topic, space is a topic that you can endlessly, in which you can dive, explore, space is a topic with which each of us

connected. and speaking of exhibits, do you have a favorite exhibit in the museum? i think that any person who works or has worked in a museum. will say that all the exhibits in the museum are his favorites, absolutely, but of course, i will probably say about several exhibits that at one time made a great impression on me, and the first exhibit is a cardiogram of yuri alekseevich gagarin, which was taken on the eve of the launch , why does this exhibit make such an impression on me, because when i looked at it for the first time, i i studied surrounded by people with medical education, when they looked at this cardiogram, they said to me: do you know? surprisingly, the man is not worried at all, i say how can he not worry, tomorrow he will fly into space for the first time, and this made a great impression on me, and i decided for myself that all astronauts are all people who , probably devote their lives to this topic, they are in some ways very similar to yuri alekseevich, i think that you, anton nikolaevich, too, probably, probably

we were a little worried, but it probably was n’t noticeable on your cardiogram, the second exhibit that he wants me to talk about... i’m telling you there, first of all, about dogs that flew into space, the idea for this book was born from two moments: first, i became i don’t talk about all the animals there, i point out that people who come to the museum, regardless of their age, they

know only three dogs that flew into space, this is the husky, the first dog to go into space, and the squirrel and the arrow, the first living ones... who not only flew into space, but also returned safely to earth , but there were much more of these dogs, and i learned this, by the way, all thanks to the institute of medical and biological problems, because i had the opportunity to work with archival documents, with the memories of people who directly trained these dogs to fly into space, at some point during this communication i began to write down stories, just for myself, at some point one of the publishing houses with which we interacted came to our museum and said: “

that is like 10 years before the first flight man into space, already finishing those experiments that took place after flights and space, you don’t remember, i don’t remember, because there are such a huge number of them, about 50 dogs flew into space, and some flew twice, several dogs flew three times and one dog real cosmonauts flew four times, and i always tell them that if people think that they just took dogs and sent them into space, this is not so, they... if we are talking about orbital flights, because they also flew on geophysical flights boy dogs, girl dogs, only girls in orbital, necessarily

mongrels, and the training was very strict, that is, the same centrifuge, and then the dogs were necessarily trained, because it was not clear how they would behave in flight conditions, they were taught to eat in conditions - shaking , in conditions of loud sounds, this is real preparation, real... to deal not only with history and modernity, but let’s say , just exactly, this is what is happening now and what will be interesting in the future, and i moved from the museum of cosmonautics to a private russian space company, russian note, this is very important, because now i am absolutely convinced of this, cosmonautics. in general, it is experiencing some kind of renaissance and some kind of revival, and private astronautics in russia is now gaining momentum and it seems to me that it’s

about to rush to the forefront of everything. we continue our conversation with daria wonderful about private astronautics in russia. we have three major areas: the development of ultra-light and lightweight launch vehicles, and the creation of satellite constellations. and this is the analysis of space data, three large directions in which we are working, everywhere there are already results, everywhere there are already successes, our main slogan is probably the idea that we want to convey, this is space for the earth, we don’t say about the fact that we need to fly to other planets as soon as possible, to populate mars or the moon there, no, we are talking about the fact that on earth there are still quite a lot of different problems that need to be solved, and astronautics can help us, earthlings, very much in this. when i talk about the popularization of private astronautics, i i always say that we are not you and me, but people who are not directly related to

space rarely think about how often they actually come into contact with space, use the services of space, absolutely, use the services of space, if there those who are watching us now opened their phone this morning, looked at the weather forecast, or used a navigator, or used some maps, but just the internet. with the internet at this moment a person interacts with space, i’m talking about the simplest levels now, but if we are talking about different areas, starting from agriculture, agro-industry, and ending with the oil industry, all these areas very actively use the data that we receive from satellites, so we, in fact , are very dependent on space in many ways and not just depending, space improves, daily improves our life on earth, that is, you invented your own...

that yes, we are now talking about the direction of ultra-light rockets, we have already had several launches, and we carried out our second launch from the test site, from which yours the first rockets were launched by sergei pavlovich korolev, and etor, kapustin, yes, and this was also a very significant event for us, now we are preparing to launch another rocket, that is, you will conquer space, this will be another test flight, it will be further, further faster and higher, right? in our plans, everything is exactly like this and we will do everything that depends on us to ensure that this succeeds. who will use your services, what kind of satellites?