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they will be like fingerprints, this is , for example, in newborn people, this is a unique, only inherent thing, which already says, would indicate that the brains are different from the very beginning, but the largest parts are the same, the smaller it is, the more unique the gyral furrows are, and you really get a unique imprint, well, at some point, this is really bad, well, yes, because our cerebral cortex is a surface. and the larger the surface, the higher the computing resources, so that is, folding is needed simply for in order to put into this head something that generally speaking does not fit there, well, just like folds in mitochondria, yes, why do you need cristae, in order to put more of these same enzymes so that oxidative phosphorylation occurs, approximately in general very often the idea of folding , it is used in nature, but folding does not develop as such, still, if you are born when we are born, we are naive in a sense, but i don’t know if there are... some
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connections or all connections laid down, they are only needed activated by the experience of life, or the experience of life lays down connections, measured, that if we are talking about a person, then at the moment of birth this is the macroanatomy, it is already in place, that is, all the convoluted furrows are in place, which means a very serious genetic contribution, this is the very formation of the network, especially in the new cortex, which is our main learning zone, and this happens very intensively during the first 2-3 years. therefore, in fact, those who are engaged in antigenesis, the formation of a network is the establishment of connections like some kind of rigid structure , when this neuron connects with this one, and not with another, this is what is meant, yes, yes, yes, a network - this means neurons, send out processes and form contacts with some nearby, sometimes very remote neurons, these are such a swarming set of these axons that grow somewhere axonovrites yes...
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this despite the fact that there was this truth that supposedly nerve cells are not restored, but in reality something is happening there, yes, the neuron itself, if it dies, as a rule there is no replacement for it, well, with the exception of the olfactory zones and the hippocampus , the short-term memory zone, but this is a completely different story, and usually the entire neuron dies, but neighboring neurons can send out processes to mend the hole, this is how recovery occurs, well, for example, after a stroke.
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some kind of, well, i can probably disconnect everything from my brain, but here we are already approaching problems that are rather philosophical and very psychological, but the trick is that we have there in this very model of the information-speech world, there is also , apparently, our model of ourselves, from this ideas about oneself , the ability to generate behavior arises. not obeying external stimuli, but obeying some of its global plans , principle-metic, this is what is called the soul, because it is believed that there is some kind of grandiose gap, but between animals and man, and the soul is a way, well, man can look at itself, the soul - this is not at all scientific, but it must be somewhere, wait, here is the self that we have about ourselves, our idea of ourselves, it is already based somewhere, we have it. and also on
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written on a material medium, but on the same neural networks, in the same zone of associative parietal measles, yes, that is, there is not only a picture of the world, but our picture and ideas. animals have some kind of limit, when i disappears, in animal psychology tests have been invented that are, as it were , self-awareness, one of them is a mirror, a well-known story about elephants, that is, for a long time it was believed that they do not recognize themselves in the mirror, and then, when they finally took a large mirror, it turned out that they even recognized it, and in the case of great apes this simply put, what do animal psychologists do? the chimpanzee is sleeping, they quietly stick a piece of paper on his forehead, and then the chimpanzee got up, stretched, looked at herself in the mirror: “ my god, what do i have?” cleans it directly, female chimpanzees take lipstick and paint their lips, by the way, crows also do this, it seems
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even social insects do this, namely their lips, no, crows don’t paint their lips, but a chimpanzee paints their lips, well, because i’ve seen how women do it beautifully, well, there is a whole one. a series of amazing experiments, when talking monkeys were raised, and this in the fifties began, you take a baby monkey and raise him just like a human, yes, they were either small chimpanzees or gorillas, you call everything in words and also show it in sign language so that the monkey learns this language, because he cannot say vocalization in words, vocal cords don’t work, but if you combine the stimuli here... into sign language, then it turns out that well, the monkey learns 100 words a year, in my opinion, the key word is conjugation, you can also give an electric shock like pavlov or something else, well, probably you can force it, well , well, he had all the dogs, well, they erected a monument to the dogs , yes, yes, well, this is kind of a separate story,
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in the wild, well, we are all evolutionists, because nothing makes sense in biology except in the light of evolution, and it would seem that communicating with each other from the point of view of survival in africa is very useful, but there is a lot of useful things... first up to 800, and then up to 300 kilos , you won’t get it, but this is an abrupt increase in the volume of a person’s brain, it, apparently , also has naturally negative sides, it is believed that the frequency, high frequency of schizophrenia, and every hundredth person is schizophrenic, this is in some way in the sense of payment for
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waves appear in the hologram, as if a person is actively doing something, we see images, we all see dreams, which we can then tell, we actually lived there, but, although these are unreal events, at that moment when a paradoxical elephant, the likelihood of dreams is much higher , it turns out that at this moment the brain, separated from sensory signals, firstly, sifts through information from the point of view of memory, remembering, forgetting, what i saw yesterday or some time ago, some images
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in particular, there is a rewrite from short-term memory to long-term memory, and therefore, the previous day is often woven into dreams. by the way, it is shown that the more actively you lived the previous day, the longer the duration of the paradoxical sleep , someone sits in my head and decides that i will forget our memory, apparently this is not at all a stable set of nerve cells like this constellation, but a system that constantly rewrites inside itself, that is , signals run through, if they don’t run through for a long time, we remove this synapse, that’s what there is now our long-term memory is compared not just with a library, when they wrote down something for 200 pages, put it on a shelf, and it stands there, no, every couple of years such copyists come, this rewriting occurs, a gradual reduction in memory and, in fact, in the end if you ask a... person what was there on vacation 10 years ago, you
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will hardly remember where it was, and like, well , it seems it was good, but if, and this is because he has limited storage, then you can probably work and try to remember, well, i don’t know, some authors, tolstoy, anyone, they obviously have a huge, completely stock of images, paintings that are probably connected with their personal lives, that take them out of somewhere, so you and this is what you work for if you work every day to have a good one.
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the block is then long-term, short-term - this is the hippocampus, it turned out that the hippocampus trains quite well and its volume grows, and the ability physically grows in the head in the head, this thing grows in the head, that is, it is in the hippocampus that this very thing is possible neurogenesis, that is, one of the zones where neurons continue to divide, complicate the network, this very hippocampus increases in volume, and if you took the path of learning foreign languages or complex poems, only
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complex, complex, yes, i understand that, well, i usually i’m telling you that eugene onegin didn’t take me, this is the same, the divine comedy, i took it in italian, no, i studied it in russian, in italian, it probably would have been even cooler, but unlike evgeny anegin, it has a heavier text, even in lazinsky’s translation, and there, as dante begins his list enemies. there are these very ancient gods, and right there it’s loaded, loaded, and really at some point this hippocampus becomes more effective, but in fact, well, for me, if we talk about how these are life hacks, of course, the most important thing is - this is to reproduce what you know, then actors, then the actors must be the smartest, i recently read torkovsky’s memoirs, he wrote so many nasty things about them, but in principle , an actor as a profession is memorizing a huge amount of information and reproducing it, yes, it’s very very specific that associate professors and university professors are
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in an even more remarkable state, you think i ’m speaking from a record, but because, in fact, we must not only attach emotions to this, but really keep it in our heads a complete picture of sometimes very complex events, learn to reproduce it for others, do it regularly and this is the most wonderful thing in my opinion for memory, that is, you are not only at the entrance, but also at the exit, this is repeated playback radically improves your mental functioning and even works as a protection against alzheimer's disease. about alzheimer’s, in the end, all this can still deteriorate, but this wonderful system, it would seem, it would seem, everything should only get better with age, we have more experience, more opportunities to share it, reproduce it, and so on , we are not focused on immortality, yes, each specific individual, it should be, even if the arms and legs do not work, what a mind it has become, yes,
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the mind, but unfortunately, firstly, that’s all they say that old people are wise, no one, they are weak, but, but there is a certain perception of old people. centuries have begun and without going into details, what kind of genes are they are simply compared, that is , you have two genetically identical people, clones, two twins, and you watch, and you
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sit and wait, which one of them will be the first to play in the box, who will have alzheimer's. then if the first one gets sick, the twins always know which of them was born first, and whether the second one will have it, and the so-called dezygotic, that is, half-uterine ones, serve as control twins, well, actually, it would seem that this is a rare event, but on a planetary scale, that ’s all and you see that in monozygotic identical twins they are more common, if one gets alzheimer’s, then the second one also , then the second one yes, that’s 60% arises from there is a wonderful comparison of these dezygotic couples...
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with the occurrence of diseases. the gene is responsible for it, and at the same time it is also a dominant olele, that is, if you got this option, then by the age of 40 you will 100% develop this pathology, which in its manifestations is very similar to alzheimer’s, much less often, fortunately, yes, but very similar, and there are also these amyloid plaques, all the same, there are not amyloid plaques, there is a cellular accumulation inside, well, like tau proteins
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in artheimer’s, and there is actually proteining, which was originally... was detected as a protein that is associated with this pathology, and then naturally they began to look for what it does in normal cells, well , it turned out that it is responsible for the transport of vesicles, vesicles, and various molecules along microtubules, that is, in fact this is according to signal transmission, it turns out, probably for the transport of something inside the cell, from neurons to neurons, it is still very unclear why the first failures occur precisely at the level of the striatum, that is, the zone that is responsible for movement, and when... and further we have great difficulty tracking changes at the level of the neural network at the level of all behavior, which is why we cannot treat, that is, we can only look,
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register changes and advise a healthy lifestyle, yes, a healthy lifestyle is always good, because that is it definitely won’t harm, but it definitely won’t harm, because it starts with the fact that you have healthy blood vessels, because in fact , half of dementia is not something like that at all. you can’t kill, because , well, i don’t know, conventionally, something like alzheimer’s happens to the liver, to tendons, and to other tissues, it’s called old age, there, if
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defective proteins have accumulated inside, you simply kill this cell, and the neighboring cell divides and replaces , for the brain this does not work, because each neuron is inserted into its own network, it is connected, informational and there is no duplication, maybe you can try to create two systems in childhood, you say that we have a lot of everything... it’s not necessary, two motor systems, apparently, there is duplication, of course, but it can only withstand so much - the level of appearance of defects, and the same alzheimer's disease, it does not suddenly appear, yes, but gradually, gradually these same changes increase, and then the two halves work exactly like that, there is this classic case that in kant half of the brain does not worked, and he he was obviously very smart, but at least that’s what they say, that is, she just lost it all, well, like about the edging. we cite lenin, where, too, with half the brain there was total sclerosis and so on,
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but there, as i understand it, in the case of dementia, well, those that many people now encounter, unfortunately, it is not so widespread, it is not half of the brain has deteriorated, but this is much less of it , it all starts with small quantities, but then when you look, for example, at a tomogram... narrow, we can do something with the help of medications, this is, for example, parkinson’s disease, because with parkinsonism a certain type of cells suffers there, these are dupamine
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neurons, the substantia nigra, which set our motor tone, and accordingly, they begin to produce dopamine worse , and from this parkinsonian symptoms appear, there is tremors, rigidity, that is, you can simply add dopamine , try this way, it’s beautiful, when very... neurons, then drugs that enhance the activity of acetylhaline help
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system, for some time, because these drugs do not stop degeneration , but still, well, because it is intracellular and moves by itself, then with alzheimer’s the flow of excitation is too strong, then drugs help, well, there is such a molecule mimontin, which reduce the level. excitement, that is, when such symptoms appear, the doctor tries different molecules, and if it works, then they can delay the development of the pathology for several years. in the case of parkinsonism, at the beginning they give the so-called ice, that is, the substance is a dopamine precursor, when it stops working, it uses dopamine agonists, substances similar to dopamine, but they already begin to have side effects, because they increase aggression, intensify cliptomania, well, that’s a different story, cliptomania. it seems to me that one of our main programs, in principle, we all have, we have property programs, this is mine, this is what it is, yes, therefore, yes, we have them in the amygdala, they are so
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well studied. target these rnas to specific types of cells, then maybe something will work out. thank you very much, vyacheslav. thank you, it was very interesting, good luck to you. this was the baden baden podcast, and i am its host , konstantin severinov. we talked with moscow state university professor, doctor of biological sciences, vyacheslav dubynin, about the brain. about the most important thing.
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hello, dear tv viewers, you are watching the podcast triggers, with you its leading psychologist tatyana krasnovskaya, psychologist and psychotherapist sergei nasebyan, our guest today is maria, hello, maria, hello, tell us why you are coming to us they came, and i am currently 35 years old, i live with my mother, and... i have never had a serious relationship and have never been married, i don’t have children either, in the future i would plan to start my own family, i would like but i don’t want to leave my mother alone , my mother is 68 years old, she is a lonely pensioner, she sits at home all the time, alone, somehow she has no friends, no girlfriends, not even pets, nothing, and i really don’t want to leave her alone , it seems to me that this is somehow cruel, i am a very empathetic
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person, very kind... it’s hard for me to decide decide that i should build my own happiness , my own family, or continue to live with my mother, but then i kind of sacrifice my future, my possible family happiness, in general, you are a good daughter, in some ways, maybe , maybe not i know, not 100%, but you came to us so that how we can help you, what do you think, i’m at a dead end in this situation, i don’t know how this problem is solved, that is , here it is anyway... there is there is definitely a choice, either mom or my family, and one is worth the other, in the sense that you pay for the other with one, this is a fact, i asked a slightly different question, so you sat, watched, probably saw a podcast, yes, and you thought, oh, i’ll go and tell my story, that’s what you think, how should it change after listening to another person’s opinion , that is, about how, what, maybe, i don’t know, options or how this is connected, that is, to understand something.
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before yourself, based on this, decide what to do, okay, have you discussed this story with some friends, colleagues, relatives, no, that is, this is the first time you are actually discussing this with someone, yes, but i i’m trying to look for something on the internet myself, maybe someone has similar problems, when you find something similar, it seems that i’m not the only one with such a problem, you’re definitely not the only one, the thing is that when you talk about that you don’t have a relationship, you - i want to say skit, but i can be a little more delicate to say you are disingenuous, when you say that your mother has no pets and no one, you are also really lying for one simple reason : you have a relationship, this relationship with your mother, and your mother has a pet, that is you, that is in fact, everything is very good, it is obvious that this suits you and her, why did it suddenly stop suiting you at some point?
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due to age, the fact that i’m 35, well, it still seems like i have my whole life ahead of me, the older you get, the more it seems like life is behind you, you’re either starting a family now, why did it seem to you, maria, that your previous 35 years weren’t so are more important than the next 35 years, with age you somehow become more experienced, i understand that maybe if i had started building some serious relationships earlier, i could have done any mistakes? now, with age , i can approach this more consciously, as if you have become more experienced, well, not in relationships, more experienced in life in general, i have begun to understand people better, it seems to me that now i already understand who is bad and who is good better and i don’t do anything stupid when entering into a relationship, i, as a cynic, will translate what you say into human language, in the human sense, so that it is understandable to everyone who is watching us now, listening to us, you may begin to
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understand, in fact, by answering my question is give me, well, we need material for further questions, for further work, now it’s very important, you said that it’s as if mom... “she has fulfilled her function of protecting you from the outside world, well, i don’t know what kind of protection, what protection was precisely from the mother, well, it seems to me that the child was always an independent child, and it seems to me that at an age when the parents are already elderly, they demand more to be protected, that is , the mother has already fulfilled this function, then you suddenly thought about what and what will happen next, well, i’m more likely to deliver. i thought about what i understand, but it’s not just like that, you could have come at 45, why am i pointing out that for some reason it seemed to you that 35, but there, for example, it’s more important than 30, but what’s there at 40 you would like
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to have a family, although i’m almost sure that at 20 you probably thought that at 30 you should have had a family, well, also the fact that i don’t have children, i want a child, and of course the age of motherhood may not be there anymore. over 50 and so on, that is, this is approximately now the age when this is a chance, perhaps there to create children, why do you need a family other than having a child? it seems to me, maybe i’m thinking about my family for selfish reasons , because it seems to me that i’m very unloved, and it seems to me that my husband and children are the ones who can give me what i don’t have enough, it’s love, some kind of respect, to fill out this post. lack of love, doesn't your mother love you? i don’t know, well, that is , it’s difficult for me to answer this question, because well , i don’t know the words, the words i love you, she never told me, but even if she did, it might be formal , but i focus more on some
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actions, i don’t know, i can’t understand, i can’t even answer this question for myself, i it would also be interesting, maybe she loves me or not, but i don’t know what actions you are guided by, i am guided even in everyday terms. well, let’s say while i’m sleeping, she won’t turn on the tv loudly, she probably means she’s taking care of me, so as not to disturb my sleep, let’s say, i don’t know, maybe this is an indicator of love , care, or maybe not, maybe respect, it could be both, but look how interesting, you know, when a person asks, for example, do you love your husband, wife , or whether you feel love from your husband, wife, mother, it doesn’t matter.
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in another place, pay attention , looking inside yourself, uh-huh, here i ask if your mother loves you there, yes, and you begin to go into reasoning, that is, look for the answer in the wrong place, where it really is, i understand, because it's very difficult to tell myself that i'm not i feel my mother’s love, or i miss it, but i don’t feel it, well, it was honest, and you have been living with your mother for 35 years, and you are not sure if she loves you, you don’t feel that she loves you, how do you with this, well, i'm like. probably over 35 years , i had periods such that i experienced this, i thought that there might be some reason in me or a reason in me that my mother was like this, i wanted my mother to be happy, for my mother to have everything okay, and i
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was looking for some reasons in myself, then i somehow calmed down, i realized that she was probably she’s just such a person, and it doesn’t concern me in any way, that’s just how she is, you just have to accept it and move on with your life. if i ask you what it's like to be you, how will you answer? intense, i am so very intense, a reserved person, responsible, that is , what feelings make up your day? i don’t know, during the day, if it’s a weekday, i’m rather tired from work, from all the worries. one thing you definitely admit, but you didn’t say it yourself, is that you are always tense? well, i have a hard time relaxing. great, let's just try to rewind from this. here tense, it’s like tense up now even more than you are tense, more, yeah, what kind of emotion stands before this tension that makes you tense? well , this is probably the fact that you need to be on alert all the time for everything to happen, but what about emotion? well, fear
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, great, maria answered your question, yes, thank you, look how interesting it is, and forgive me, masha, that i’m talking about you in the third person now, how interesting masha formulates: thought, yes, that is, masha does everything for in order to - phenomenally avoid touching feelings, but there is a very great benefit from the fact that... you feel the body so well, even through tension, because the body will give you a huge number of tips, i hope today we can help you in this sense, how can you, with the help of your body , cope with the tasks that you set for yourself? fear, let’s get back to it, what are you afraid of, not just straight, it’s just some kind of fear, it’s more like something it will go wrong, i won’t be able to do something, i won’t do something. these are thoughts, these are not feelings,
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feelings, there is no feeling that something will go wrong, i even find it difficult for me how there can be any feelings at this moment, i know, i even have a fantasy, why is it so difficult for you, but i would like everything - so that you unpack yourself, that feelings may not be very good, but i am a very practical person, feelings are of course not my territory, not yours and your mother’s, this again is probably not a feeling that i may be somehow different, if something wrong... this is also the fear that they won’t love me if i do something wrong so, look, it’s still fear, i call it fear and it may sound very negative for you, yes to some extent, and i understand perfectly well that you would not want to feel fear from your mother, anxiety, well i mean, the danger that... can come from her, because this is her mother, how can you
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be afraid of her or how can you suspect her of wanting to do something bad? i don’t know, i’m not afraid of her, i have no fear , of course you’re not afraid anymore, 68, you’re 35, you can kill her if you want physically, it’s just you we agreed with ourselves not to feel it, not on purpose, maria , please tell us a little about your family, dad, mom , i don’t know my dad, so, that is, he left when... my mother was pregnant with me, yeah, but we lived with my grandmother before, that is, grandmother , mother and me, the three of us, grandmother has been gone for about 10 years, and why did your parents break up, my grandmother was against their relationship, that is, let's say, she separated them, but you and your mother spoke once - then about this, no, somehow it’s not customary for us to have such direct spiritual communication, in our family it’s like there’s no such thing for some reason, well, in the sense, there’s just no dad, no , dad, you just grow up, you see that dad,
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that’s how the stories say, why, that is, that his grandmother kicked him out, my grandmother kicked him out, that’s all i do i don’t know, but i ’m somehow such a person, for some reason it’s very difficult for me to ask any questions in the family, i’m a very correct person and somehow i feel like prying into something personal, it’s just something for me... that’s called correctness, well , because somehow they don’t tell each other any personal problems in the family and it seems as if i... ask some questions, as if i’m prying into a person’s soul, maybe if the person doesn’t tell himself, it means he probably doesn’t want to, so you live, yes, nicely like neighbors, that is, you are three generations families, women, three generations of women, you all lived together, your grandmother was also left without her husband, that is, i don’t know, that is, i don’t know my grandfather personally, you are three generations of women living in one house, yeah, yes, the way you lived, the way your life was organized, your mother and hers. no,
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they always had some kind of conflicts, what are you did at this moment, when mom and mom were fighting, i don’t have such an understanding that it’s right, wrong, well, they’re in conflict , there’s more likely no fear, when this happens every day here, of course, what were you experiencing at that moment, that's when there were conflicts between them. i don’t even know what i was directly experiencing, although of course i wanted these conflicts not to exist, i don’t know, there might even be some kind of resentment about why they couldn’t live together normally, how often have you become the cause of their conflict , i don't i know what the reason for their conflicts was in general, not that it was me, that is, they did not agree on personalities in everyday life, for example, grandmother wants something, mother wants something else in everyday life, that is, mother why didn’t you leave your grandmother, why did you all live together? but i don’t know, that is, she
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was a very, well, angry grandmother, that is , such a stern and person, her grandmother had a difficult childhood, so she was such a difficult person, and well, my mother was in the midst of these fights, scandals, she wanted to leave everything there, i don’t know, go somewhere, she she went out into the street with me and still came back a few hours later, she thought, i found letters of correspondence between her and the man. to find a man, she just wanted to have somewhere to go, uh-huh , so it didn’t end in anything, she didn’t find one, no, somehow it didn’t end in anything, it means that your mother didn’t have a relationship before your eyes either , it wasn’t, your grandmother didn’t have it before your eyes either , it didn’t, that is, your mother served your grandmother, now you are serving your mother,
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uh-huh, uh-huh, and when you found these letters, you they read them, what happened to you, i was very scared, that moment, because i understood that these were absolutely strangers, absolutely strangers adults, and that my mother could go to some absolutely stranger man whom she only knew by correspondence, and with me , with a small child, that it is unknown what kind of man it will be, what if he, i don’t know, hits or something else, i was scared, that is , a man is some kind of dangerous story, but relationships with men, well, not always, but especially if it’s just a bug like this. you don’t know the person at all, that is, if i knew the person, if he were somewhere among our environment, i would already know that this person is normal, he can be trusted, he is kind, i would not have such fear, but just some kind of correspondence person whom i don’t know, if you follow your logic, so to speak, then living with
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a grandmother who constantly fights with her mother, living with a mother who constantly shares things with her mother is safer than living with others a person, yes, because here you already know that... here there is no unknown, but there is such an unknown that is simply unknown, well, apparently, your mother did not find a man, including because she too i thought so, i don’t know , maybe, well, of course you can ask her, if maybe she’s gotten used to it or something, i don’t know, i didn’t want to, the season premiere, it’s him, yeah, wow, and he’s in the hospital, unfortunately, no, i want to know everything about these athletes, their coach, there are a lot of his contacts girls, yeah, that's it, for every taste , pretty, tell me, do you have some decent bloodhound swimming suit , new series, tomorrow after the program time, in my opinion, not my style at all, you
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know, you this one will do much better. this is the triggers podcast with you, its presenter tatyana krasnoskaya and sergey nasebyan, our guest today is maria, you said that your mother is 68, that is, you are quite a late child for that generation, have you ever asked your mother why it took her so long didn't give birth? it’s not customary here, no matter how hard i try asking questions, you really live, what i want to ask is unknown, but what will happen if you ask, i can’t understand this, well... maybe i’ll offend her, so what? i’m very afraid of offending her, she’s very vulnerable, she might cry, people, so what? come on, what are you really afraid of, what kind of family of wax figures do you have there? if your mother looks, plus or minus, the same as you, i
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can imagine what your evenings look like, you sit under a lampshade, preferably in the shade, so that god forbid you don’t get into that bright spot on the table get there because... that you are fearless, well, not that fearless , but you perceive a space where there is no fear as more dangerous than a place where there is specific fear, very understandable fear, because here the rules are clear, here the rails are clear, on which you and your mother ride back and forth, every day of yours is similar to the previous one, every next one will be similar to
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this, thank god that you came here, this goes far beyond the boundaries of your ordinary realities, when i shout at you, what do you feel, what do you expect changes from me? what i feel it was ours that you changed your face twice, when i raised my tone, you already told me everything, i want you to learn to pronounce it for yourself, i’m not a conflicted person, even if you raise your voice at me, i’d rather, well, what’s wrong with you ? moment happens , before you pull away, there was another emotion, at first you had a feeling, you just started to feel something, maybe you were a little offended, maybe... you were, maybe you even wanted to get angry somewhere, yes, but then you turned on the little girl that you can shout, which you can lead, because it is not there, it is porcelain. i’m just usually aggressive, i usually pull away and i’m not an aggressive person, that is, i don’t respond with aggression to aggression, your usual mechanism,
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your strategy, freeze, you narrow down to the level of a small cell, freeze, turn off all feelings, but tense, like usually, of course, because god forbid you feel something, god forbid, at least some feeling comes out, and there you don’t know what to expect from yourself. oh well from you don’t know what to expect from your mother there, because you can’t upset your mother, right? yes, i don’t want to upset her in anything, of course, you can’t let your mother down , god forbid you betray me, and your marriage will be a betrayal of your mother, yes, then there are two options, or you’re just waiting for time to do all its work for you , she will die, well, maybe you will have 10 years left to live, or i’m afraid that she won’t survive my leaving the family, it’s very possible. so you will hasten her death, so what? well, this is hard, then wait, with us now it’s true that medicine
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is getting better and better, so she will live a long time, well, in general, you will live a long time, there life will just be so-so, but you can wait, she, of course, will not survive, because she is you, to a large extent because of you, i think how she herself, at least this explains, most likely did not live, she froze and you froze with her, you will most likely do this now, you will come out a. .. from the air think, my god, what was it, it was n’t me, it was someone else there, you go under your lampshade, this will continue, i want my mother to be happy, for her to have some kind of life of her own, but she probably doesn’t want that, for her to be happy and so that i can leave her, my mother is happy when you are around, mom is happy, when you are her pet, that’s how happy mom is now. do you agree to leave yours? i wouldn’t say that she’s a really happy person now, that is, it seems to me that she’s the
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kind of person who also really needs a psychologist, but she ’ll never go to a psychologist, but the fact that she doesn’t happy person, that’s how you lived, three unhappy women, then there were two unhappy women, then there will be one, because most likely you will end this family with yourself, because you most likely, as tatyana rightly says, will not change anything, because you will be happy to return... to your usual aquarium, serpinteria, i would even say, you know, you will return there, it will be, well , not to say great, but it will definitely be calm there, at least in that aquarium, you can be sure that you know what can happen, you can cope with what can happen, the degree of your tension, it’s quite bearable, because if it became unbearable, you would have long ago... blown it all up, but tell me, please, you said that you never had a serious, as you said , relationship, yes, but there were not serious ones, well,
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there were no relationships, that is, if only dates with men, but there were never relationships, well, i mean it turns out long-term, yes, that is, on the first date you came, did you come for the second date , yes, or are you talking about sexual ones, several dates, no, you have a more platonic, absolutely relationship, well, just how to communicate more quickly, yeah, well... after all, it’s to communicate over a period of time , it was so? either one date or several dates. ok, let’s remember some prince of yours, with whom you had at least five dates, well, he was such a prince, not like a prince, well, that is, he was just a person who invited me on a date, but you went date, you went to restaurants, maybe kissed there, i don’t know, walked down the street, yes, so, this man, here he was, yes. as if this was an opportunity to build a relationship, it didn’t even lead us to anything, well, of course, that is, he was so
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a little complex in character, yeah, he even stopped these dates himself, yeah, it’s clear, but it turns out that you didn’t have you ever let a person into your life who would come there for what is called seriously for a long time, not that you didn’t let him in, you weren’t, that is, there wasn’t such a thing, that someone directly wanted to knock on my life or my heart, and i... exist in this world. there are men, men somehow still well, so you communicate with people , you travel on public transport, yes, then well , i don’t trust such acquaintances as social networks and meeting people on the street, how can i get to know you? then, i don’t understand, if because of
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some interest somewhere, where do i go? let’s say for a longer time, but i’m at work, or if i go somewhere, i may have some interests of my own, well, i go out with friends, let’s say, or you have friends , yes, friends, acquaintances, you have a girlfriend, yeah, well, you go somewhere there, you meet some men there, they’re also new, what ’s the difference between meeting someone, for example, in transport, meeting someone at an exhibition, yes or in a restaurant, at an exhibition, what might i like there? after talking a little with me, how can i please you on the street only if your appearance is so interesting, and you view all acquaintances, in general all contacts with men, through the prism that a man must definitely give you first see, be enchanted, get through all your obstacles, win your heart , take you away, but there i never heard that you might like a man, i’m a very
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amorous person, i’ll like every second one, but what am i... yes, i’m very amorous , why don’t you open up, well, i don’t know whether a person likes me or not, i can’t impose myself, say, ask someone out there for a date, maybe he’s not interested in me, you know what you in fact , building relationships with these men is the same as with your mother, when it’s scary easy, as you said, to get into the soul, that is, you are afraid, or even to offend because maybe i realize that i like someone and somehow offend them, so you ...
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they will do it, mash, well, maybe nothing will happen to them uncomfortable, they won’t like what they do, but inside it will make them feel uncomfortable, you’re just afraid that they will feel uncomfortable, make other people feel bad, what should i do if you do bad to me? how should i, what reaction of mine are you afraid of, how will you know that i feel bad, that i will upset you, interfere with you somehow, how will you know, that this is so, you must have some kind of feedback signal, just biological feedback, how you will know that you have upset me, i will never know, but i will think that no, you will be uncomfortable, as your mother showed you, that you upset her when you were little, when you are little, you
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make noise, you disturb the neighbors, what will happen? i constantly upset my mother, i blame myself for this, i just left the house, that is, she left me in the yard and said, be in the yard, i’ll call for food there now you, and i was leaving, i could have gone to another area somewhere during this time, left by bus , she was looking for me all the time, she was in tears all the time, crying, running, looking for me, and i really blame myself for this, that so, now you blame yourself, what happened then, i didn’t understand it then, i don’t have feelings. how did you understand that you did something wrong, no way, i didn’t understand why she was upset because of this, nothing bad happened, i’m just walking, upset, she cries, scolds you, well, she doesn’t scold you, she he just cries hysterically and says it’s because of you, but you don’t understand what it is and i don’t understand why he was so upset because i just went for a walk, well, i mean, i’m just walking, you’re not going through anything terrible, that’s why you don’t leave anymore,
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wow, you’re really afraid of upsetting her more than anything else in the world, but how can you predict? you can upset, you can't, so just in case, you don't do anything. what is figure skating? beauty, struggle. passion, harmony, creativity, work, emotions, flight, dream, love, victory, this life, the main tournament of the year. russian championship,
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new episodes, and from december 25, on the first, something happened, yes, quickly follow me to the operating room , this is the triggers podcast with you, its host psychologist, tatyana krasnovskaya." psychotherapist sergei nasebyan, our guest today is maria, you understand that you cannot build your life without upsetting mom, you have a new blouse, mom is upset that she doesn’t have one, and if you have a man, a family, she will be upset because she doesn’t have it, i think your mom will happily agree for you to do eco got pregnant there from the holy spirit or from some unknown man, well, she doesn’t even touch on the topic of children, that is, she never... told me how they tell other children about grandchildren, she doesn’t need it, well, that’s right, but it’s better don’t change anything, everything works out very conveniently, the tarsher and you are all around in the twilight, why do you need children, why does your
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mother need children, it just doesn’t fit into this, neither children, nor husbands , nor men, no one fits in, you understand that you cannot build your life without upsetting your mother, but this is what gnaws at me , are you ready to upset? mom, are you ready to leave mom with her feelings and emotions? no, it seems to me that she will not survive this. march, whether she will survive this or not, you will only find out by doing it, in general, everything should have been done much earlier, 15 years ago, you just threw away 15 years of your life, you put them on the altar service.
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during her physical life or after her departure , it doesn’t matter, you will just wait for her to die, you will simply hate this person and the memory of him, that’s why you don’t do this, that’s why you need to be upset now, that’s what concerns your distrust to social networks, meeting people on transport for everyone else, here i would recommend you to do a very simple thing, now you will go home from here, you will go by public transport, that’s right, meet three people. with three people on the way home, just come up and say , can i meet you, they will think that i am strange, and you are strange, they already think so, when you are just walking, they will think, this is their problem, your task -
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