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why can’t they soberly assess the facts: the soviet union was the soviet union, a superpower, so to speak, the united states, the soviet union, russia in their opinion, how can it be, there is 2% of world gdp, as they believe, a defeated, so to speak, army with outdated weapons, suddenly something goes wrong, and we, the mighty nato, the mighty west, can’t do anything with them, that’s it, again, i completely agree with you. i just, as they say, i understand their logic, i don’t like them, but the consequences, vladimir, tell me, do you know any precedents for such behavior on the part of the collective west, well, firstly, if we return to the experience that you mentioned, the experience of the war in afghanistan, i would like to remind you that, in parallel with the military operations in afghanistan , a crisis took shape in the center of europe in poland, and the reaction to which moscow, i think in many ways it was. dictated by the situation
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that was developing in afghanistan, because on the agenda was the question of how to respond to the political changes that took place there, unlike previous cases, i mean the hungarian crisis of '56 and the czechoslovak crisis of '58, the soviet union took a softer path, relying on loyal forces in poland itself, general eruzelsky and so on, and therefore the west tried on both sides after all...
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other precedents, besides afghanistan , cite any that you know, well, i probably won’t cite them right off the bat, but it seems to me that the whole question, evgeniy petrovich ended his monologue very correctly, and indeed, for quite a long period of time, both the united states and the soviet union understood each other completely, and after the collapse of the soviet union, the weight of russia was uncertain. by and large, what we are seeing today is the determination of russia’s weight in the eyes of western elites and western public opinion. western elites, as far as i understand, are convincing public opinion that russia is an ear of clay with feet of clay. it is no coincidence that we still remember president obama’s statements that the russian economy there collapsed, crumbled within a few months after the sanctions were imposed, that is, the task is to introduce a new enemy to face.
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as long as russia wins a military victory in ukraine, and that this is enough, and that there is no need to make unnecessary movements, this is one position, another position: that appetites grow while eating, what if such behavior of the west does not meet serious and painful for the west to answer, then we can expect that such techniques will increasingly be adopted by the west, and that , unlike the period we talked about when reagan was president of the united states, now...
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so that, if possible, the west will come to the conclusion , that he needs such brakes, because otherwise it could be painfully offensive. senator denisov, you are ideally suited to respond to our discussion, i am not sure that this is a dispute, but definitely a discussion, you, as a long-time ambassador to china, know. saudi arabia, egypt. do you think that
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if russia took, well, let's say, a more offensive position on this issue, then russia would have to pay.
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the european commission, which, in principle, until this moment, at least somehow kept within the bounds of decency, at least did not break down to outright abuse of our country, as... this happened literally now, and in a dramatic case, when it is absolutely obvious that civilians were killed in donetsk, and our president completely justified and correctly defined this as a terrorist act, so here it is necessary to think no longer about verbal escalation about what could follow it further, this is very alarming, this is very alarming, here we agree with you, and we also agree with you, i think that others do too. program participants they also think that, as president putin rightly said,
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striking at civilians, even if everything is seething inside you, is not our method, i agree with this, but in general, besides striking at civilians, there is and other possibilities of what i would call, well, creative if you like... this is a recognition of the fact. well, i want to ask you, isn’t it very important for china,
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when they decide how to deal with russia, to make sure that russia, firstly, wins, and secondly, that russia knows how to force take into account those who do not understand that russia has interests and opportunities that are not safe for anyone.
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means that he will allow russia to be turned into a whipping boy, and i’ll tell you honestly,
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from the point of view of sound logic, i don’t fully understand why what russia did with the special operation, why it didn’t prove to washington and london, that in general russia needs to be taken seriously, what russia did in syria, it seems to me that there were such demonstrations. enough, you know for whom it’s enough, for sensible people, and if people are not very sane, then unfortunately, you cannot say, but if they are not very sane, then how could it be worse for them, no, in the process it becomes worse not only for them, but also for those whom they attack, and i at least, if i were asked in washington what i think about the russian discussion, i would say that there is something bubbling inside russia, that
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the heart is beating strongly, and that those who do not want further escalation should it is very important to think about this russian reaction and not accept russian restraint. behind a sign of weakness. we're going out to advertise, we'll be back in just a few minutes to talk about what's happening in the united states, specifically with the american elections. the main contender for the post of head of nato is niki mark rutte, prime minister of the netherlands. the future of ukraine is in nato, and we will support these ambitions. mark received the nickname teflon, there is always a lot of scandals and corruption around him, but the crute does not stick.
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mister prime minister, how long has this been for you? they only think about how to make russia feel bad. who does he serve? rutte, maybe the point is that this is blockrock. he has built these connections with financial capital and looks at biden as a screen that he can ignore . executor of someone else's political and financial will. the netherlands and denmark undertake to transfer the aircraft to 16 ukraine. they are obliged to give everything they have and then some, because this is their war. i always thought that i would become a pianist, but i lacked the talent. nata rutte, mark gollansky, dolls of the heir tutti, tomorrow on the first, bourbon steersman,
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a product of the stellar group. "i will be useful, and you you will be pleasant, and then change, what’s wrong with mayonnaise, it’s better to drink low-fat kefir, you are takitori, you are ahead of everyone, this year i left myself a role, it’s small, a queen, a deeply national character, with all the advantages and disadvantages, it’s up to you to decide tasks that traditionally related to human intellectual activity, the pedigree from the germans worked against christmas trees and the new year, there is santa claus. it’s
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for children, and there’s baba frost, a custom song in general, yes, a lot of fashion brands are leaving into the metaverse, to your home, the new goth gathered like one bokzhal, sending him on a journey into miracles. there is a big game on the air, now we will talk about what is happening with american politics, more specifically with the upcoming elections in the united states , ekaterina moore, correspondent, businesswoman in
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america, is with us now via skype from the united states. ekaterina, hello again, we are very glad to always see you and hear from you. by the supreme court of the united states? dmitry, you and i have talked more than once about the fact that the fourteenth amendment of the american the constitution on which donald trump's opponents are appealing does not relate to donald trump himself, in spirit, in the letter of the law,
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this amendment was aimed at preventing. dividing the united states into many states, yes, that is, to prevent a civil war, and i think that for the founding fathers of the united states, this is such a bad dream, a nightmare, that this amendment, which in principle was aimed at uniting the united states, it can cause the united states to divide, the fact is that many experts are now saying that... that, in principle, decisions of this kind cannot be made at the state level, because if one state decides to remove one candidate... it turns out that the country is divided, and accordingly, it is quite obvious that this issue must be resolved at
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the federal level, the fourteenth amendment also states that this decision can be made by the american congress, it is also worth considering that in the united states there is a presumption of innocence, as in in principle in many civilized countries, trump nowhere in any. lawsuits, yes, in not a single lawsuit, not in a single case, was he recognized as a participant in any uprising , moreover, now, also at the level of the supreme court, such preliminary, such preliminary preparations are underway for hearings in the so-called case of fisher v. the government of the united states states where the supreme court will, in principle, decide whether it is justified... the research of the participants on january 6th like this in this way, how they are being persecuted, and therefore i think that indeed, the issue will be resolved at the level
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of the supreme court, most experts agree that the supreme court, if it really decides that this is within its jurisdiction, will overturn the decision of the colorado court, and the sole decision of the secretary of state. trump will indeed continue his, his campaign, and if, if the democrats take any other extraordinary steps, then they are of course walking on a knife’s edge, because de facto they are interfering in the electoral processes, in principle they are doing the same the same as joe biden once accused donald trump of interference. in the elections, so i have such a positive forecast regarding donald trump, i think that the same rally effect that helps him gather
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more and more supporters around him, and it will continue, and the supreme court in the next month there, given that the matter does not tolerate delay will decide in his favor, but there will of course be a question that, in principle, will the supreme court decide whether trump participated in any insurrection, or will the supreme court simply read according to the letter of the law this amendment and will decide whether, in principle, it applies to him, whether this amendment applies to the presidency, or is it still a question of how, at the state level, how to regulate such issues, for clarity, the fourteenth amendment. i was not talking about people who would question the results of the elections, no matter who these people were, including the president himself,
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who lost, but there we were talking about those who were participants in insurrection, insurrection - this means rebellion, this is not just some radical political action is a riot with a weapon, and that was very specific.
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by means of such evidence, even he meant the seizure of the capitol by the military was peaceful, peaceful, and no evidence was given that was remotely given, and you rightly said that if democrats can behave like this, then bad examples are contagious, that’s the main one, as it’s called attorney general, the state's chief prosecutor... he's a republican, and he's already said that if trump is removed from the elections in colorado, he will do the same with
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biden.
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i think that you are absolutely right, dmitry, it’s also worth considering that the situation has changed a little now, yes, if you compare the situation like what happened with the russian empire, and with the collapse of the russian empire, you will remember how much money was invested all over the world in russian securities, securities of the russian empire , no one then believed that such...
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and citizens, here we can recall, by the way, the theory of stupidity of chipola, which says that when the system becomes obsolete, it simply raises itself to high levels fools who do worse for themselves and for others, so i think it’s the same story here, thank you, fairness, there is one politician in the united states who warns the dangers of what he was talking about...
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humanly speaking, well, look , well, what charisma, just outstanding against the background of tfu-tfutfu, good health at a very respectable age, especially when compared with the main candidate of the democrats, you know, again, please forgive me, understand correctly, one of my employees in the distant past, working in the united states, being in vacation, he gave me this, you know, mug, like a thermos.
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it seems to me that it is unreasonable, generals, yes , you know, i also have no illusions about trump and i remember that the decision that his administration made regarding russia, and with the same, with the same supply of heavy weapons to kiev, was made by
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the trump administration, but on the other hand, you know, the main tasks that trump set for himself, trump, in general, fell to biden. europe, in terms of energy , has abandoned russia, but if not completely abandoned it, then, in any case, it has significantly reoriented itself towards the united states, that is, the economic tasks set by the trump administration and trump personally have been completed, that’s the point, yes, plus trump never said that he would not meet. with president putin, he met with president putin, spoke with him one-on-one and even, so to speak, was not afraid to say that he trusts president putin and believes that if he says no, then it’s no, another thing is that he it was
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quite difficult, because because of this the disgrace that he is connected with russia there, with the russian special services, that russia helped him, so to speak, win the elections, this hindered him in many ways, i think, now... we got burned once by trump, russia did not interfere in the american elections in the sixteenth year, it seems to me that now this is absolutely obvious to all informed people, but she is not interfering now either,
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the elections there are based on such mixed sympathy in russia, they were in favor of trump, then many people had a legitimate reaction, what they fought for, they ran into it. now we hear what trump says, but we also understand that this is happening in the context of the election race, should we pay attention to trump’s position, or are these ordinary slogans, or at least we should expect that these are ordinary slogans? well, did andrei ivanovich, so to speak, renounce his status for five moments in order to express his personal opinion? i don’t have any diplomatic status, so my opinion is absolutely irresponsible in this regard, it seems to me, of course, there is charisma, there is something charm, he is certainly handsome , you can’t say anything, especially compared to his main competitor, but it seems to me that
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there is absolutely no need to delude yourself about this, because of course trump cannot close the box that was opened by entire generations of american politicians, including in relations with russia, and... this is a long case , it didn’t start right away, even if you measure it over decades, this has all been happening since at least 2014, and it won’t close at once, i think that for internal political reasons it won’t even be possible to stop trump needs what is happening now to stop the spread of this escalation in the positions that are now in place. on the battlefield, i would say so, because i apologize, because in the end , the efforts of the funds of the biden administration are not spent on this, it is the efforts of america's funds, not only as the funds of taxpayers in america as a force, and he is
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unlikely to be able single-handedly that it would be very naive for russia to take what trump says literally and build too... optimistic expectations on it, i think it seems that, however, the question is not about russia, as you said, taking and fitting into the american elections, but the question in general. trump is not worth a single american candidate, at least in this election, and thinking about the analytical situation, does trump’s position mean that there may be a prospect for some other relationship with america, it seems to me that there may be such a prospect.
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this is an interesting, rather confusing situation. ekaterina, thank you so much, goodbye, we hope to see you again soon in our broadcast, now we are going to advertise and will be back in just a few minutes. to the centenary of the outstanding director.
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petrik, they are bad people, i conjure you, petrik, my dear, to whom did you leave me, great enmity, between our families, nothing, marichka, i’ll tell my mother, i’ll take you to us, let their cattle perish like mine, ivanka, they destroyed our family, and you can’t be together for us, my dear. for this national shirt, during the notorious years of the communist dictatorship , people could lose their positions and even be imprisoned. prison embroidered shirt why do people invent fables about it in the forties and fifties? for years, embroidered shirts were a completely common
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type of clothing, it’s bad when in the parliament of some small and poor republic people start waving their pants or embroidered shirts over their heads, and also one of the main fake departments, pyotr andryushchenko, is looking for his things, documents that mr. andryushchenko will provide , will be subjected to examination, questions may arise about his connections with the sbu, anti-fake, premiere, tomorrow on the first. on air big game, now, in the very limited time remaining, let's have our usual round table, and if you don't mind, general, maybe you can say something about escalating the possibility of escalation elsewhere, i'm talking about the middle east, of course, yes, you know, in the middle east... escalation is possible , by the way, it is already underway, the fact that israel
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will eventually face hezbollah seriously, i think no one has any doubt about it, then that the houthis will cause more and more trouble to the americans and the israelis, and world trade and world shipping in the red sea too. there is no doubt that israel will not solve the problem of completely destroying hamas, this is also obvious, the israeli leadership is already saying that they will need at least a year to solve these problems, maybe a year or two, i ’m afraid that wouldn’t this have ended with another antifade, thank you, vladimir nikolaevich, well , it’s hard for me to say, thinking ahead, it seems to me that... the rift that is now happening in the middle east, it
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really is of a fundamental nature , and the confusion with which it seems to me to be looked at in european capitals in washington shows that such a scenario was not overlooked, or at least was not considered the main one, but the escalation continues and , by and large, no one knows what to do with it, this once again shows that we live in peace. in which old patterns do not apply, so you spoke in the previous part about america, which gives some completely unusual examples of electoral activity, and here we are faced with... measures that are not prescribed in textbooks, it seems to me, well, of course they are not prescribed in textbooks, but nevertheless, we need to do something, and some solutions , i want it, i don’t want it, i’ll have to accept, that’s how you see, the prospects for russian diplomacy in this situation, the prospects are very difficult,
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even if the negotiation work is difficult and not with those with whom we are. all this has been seen repeatedly in newsreels, but somehow few people know or in any case, few people remember that this was accompanied by grueling, long, very difficult negotiation work and negotiations, primarily with those who stood behind the mujahideen, behind the americans, but
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unfortunately, to great regret, then, albeit painful, difficult, but a solution was found that made it possible to put an end to it, we won’t now... give political assessments, but the point was made, now such prospects are simply not visible, especially taking into account what our president said, that we are ready for negotiations, but only on our terms , or rather not to negotiations, to achieving some kind of negotiated solutions, but only on our terms, but taking this into account, taking into account the position of the united states, i simply do not see any options for reaching a negotiated solution. you know, it’s very interesting how this situation with afghanistan ended in the late eighties, and i’ll now mention what happened in the united states. there was one person in the united states who advocated a negotiated solution to the afghan
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issue. he was a significant man, ronald reagan. but ronald reagan by this point. was already about to give up power, and the new administration, which was considered more moderate than reagan, primarily the president of the two, sr. and his national security adviser, general sco croft, they were in principle for good relations with the soviet union, and even if you remember, bush came to kiev in august of '91 and spoke about the dangers of excessive nationalism in... in ukraine, but on the issue of, on the issue of afghanistan, they had the impression that reagan was a romantic, a former the actor, thinking in such hollywood categories, decided that gorbachev is a good guy, and that it
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is necessary to come to an agreement with him, to meet him halfway, and bush has sculcroft. lost this war, the stingers brought victory to american clients, why do you need to negotiate, you need to go and finish off about the soviet afghan regime, well, how did it
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end, we know, and we still know that the united states, then, when it seems their clients won , diplomatic mediation is serious , i’m not saying for the sake of appearances we’re making noise we are making noise, but is it possible given the relations that exist between us today? if we take any possibilities for any situation as it is today
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, i honestly don’t see any mediation, i don’t see it, but on the other hand, this doesn’t mean that we have to give up and indulge in something, i don’t i know that such an absolute person must believe his own powerlessness. in the end , that’s why diplomacy exists: to look for solutions, which means we need to look for them, which means we need to form the world majority that capable of influencing the opposite side, that’s the only way , i actually already said this, i’ll repeat it again, we need to enter, as they say, not directly, but indirectly, and this is what we have to do , by the way, this year, because russia , chairman, from january 1, at least in this format we have a lot of work to do, including to consolidate the positions
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of that very global majority and those countries that represent its interests. i agree with you, the situation is very difficult, frankly speaking, not very optimistic, but nothing you can’t think of anything worse than folding your hands in this situation and letting everything go to its own devices. it was a big game, see you at... tomorrow on the air. for 12 years in a row i was the snow maiden, and i decided to celebrate this new year at home with my family, but of course i couldn’t, i wore it. costumes and we went to entertain the people , gathered the whole courtyard, all the passers -by, danced in round dances, lit sparklers, set off fireworks, it was fantastic, it always
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seemed to me that it was great to celebrate the new year on the train, how you celebrate the new year is how you spend it, then i have the rest of the year passed on business trips, i wish all the residents of our city, our wonderful country a happy new year, all the best, and that all your plans come true, health, happiness, prosperity, long life of all. all the best, be with your family this new year and be healthy, it was compared to a volcano, the echo of its eruption circled the globe and... caused responses all over the world, people from other countries diligently tried to pronounce the name of the volcano: sir kay
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parajanov, attention, prayer, mom, mother, prayer, allah, look at the sky, motor! until the age of 40, not only did the general public not know about director parajanov, but he also did nothing outstanding; it seemed that nothing foreshadowed an explosion. i first played the skritt , then i graduated from the choreographic school, then i studied at the vocal department, then
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the acting teacher said that you have an outstanding talent as a director, the ministry of culture allocated a kerasinka, a yavchin tulub, i went to study at ovgik, at vgik parajanov was noticed by alexander davzhenko. and invited me to his kiev film studio. and this is our achievement, a wild boar of a warm ukrainian breed. one minute. in kiev , parojanov collided. with reality, i had to shoot not what i wanted, but what i needed, ideologically correct educational films.
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but one day parajanov woke up famous in 1964.
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what comes to the fore is not the tragic love story of the heroes ivan and marichka, but the very life of the carpathian highlanders, the hutsuls, their customs and rituals. parajanov creates the atmosphere using all the means of cinema: editing, costume, color. he opened the function for us
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colors, not just aesthetic. that everything can be expressed through everything, that the color itself speaks , that a costume can be made from rags, from floor mats, from something else, from burlap, the film turned out to look like a carpet of the finest workmanship, you could admire it from afar, but as approaches to it opened up. more and more amazing details. it was incredible how parajanov, an armenian, having grown up in tbilis, felt the spirit of the ukrainian carpathians. wedding scene: the newlyweds are wearing a bull cap, a yoke, around their necks. the audience
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accepted it as an ancient forgotten hutsul ritual, without realizing that...
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according to their own understanding on their own folk themes, where there was ethnography, where there was god, where there was love, and where there was tragedy. the film was sent to a film festival in argentina and it suddenly won the prize for best director. the world started talking about a new phenomenon in soviet cinema, about porazhanov. how did this happen? something woke up from a person, woke up, 40 years old, acme’s age, at this time all the madness begins, it also began for sergei. may god grant that such a shift occurs for everyone at the age of 40.
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of course, such a shift could not happen in a vacuum. parojanov's character and imagination have always been distinguished by seismic activity. 3 years before the release of shadows of forgotten ancestors. it was difficult to come to terms with it; judge me however you want. everyone knew their apartment in the building opposite the circus in kiev;
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guests constantly came here, sometimes up to 40 people. the small apartment did not accommodate everyone, the feast was moved to the landing. all this was accompanied by spherical performances that...
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something was doing all the time. sergey and svetlana they remained friends even after the divorce, but there was no way back to the family. many years later she will tell him: you are charming, but unbearable. or i said, you are either beautiful, but unbearable, or charming, but unbearable. i already have enough, as they say. after the shadows of the forgotten.
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very dangerous for the leadership, very dangerous, because it spread freedom, gave the opportunity to think freely, speak freely, and then what? they tried to give parajanov the opportunity to rehabilitate himself, they allowed him to make a film, kiev frescoes, about the price of victory of the soviet people in the great patriotic war, it was assumed that this topic would return the strappy director to the usual channel of socialist realism, but the wolf...

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