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well, let's see what happens in 20 years, and you continue to be romantic, despite the fact that that this is the third marriage, the wedding, it was - what kind of wedding i don’t know, just by the third time maybe let’s be modest, no, well , not at all, i’ll be honest, this is the kind of wedding just like this wow, i had the first time, valera she said it’s not my wedding that’s going to be like this, well , she says, i mean, to be honest, i would at least sign it, it’s not my business, but it was still fun, and to be honest, that’s the dress. it just seems to me that he didn’t scold the lazy person like that, but i just wanted the dress, well, there’s something wrong there, there, although there were no ruffles, they came up with some kind of ruffles, i don’t know anything else, i ’m still kind of fat in it, but i just wanted a wedding dress, so i’m really naturally white with a train, with a train with photo, there was no photo , i never had a fad, don’t be jealous, i just
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lived interestingly, the first time i had such a flower, the second time i had small flowers in my head, the third time such a thing, that’s just her i came up with my wedding, i did whatever i wanted, let’s go back to the voice as the main thing working tool. how to preserve it, you do some special, maybe exercises, maybe you absolutely don’t eat or drink something, it’s just that konstantin aleksandrovich recently took up vocals, he’s very interested, well, firstly, if you know the structure of the hartani, then it’s like a ligament , yes, and the larynx, when we swallow, it goes right here or vice versa, i don’t know, as if i don’t really know, it’s also almost right, so that it gets into the ligament, so for a good closure, you need peach oil , this is by the way wonderful mofniator natalya zemina. peach oil, a legend, you need to take an insulin syringe, lie down completely, pour half a syringe into your nose, as it were, then it flows down the back walls and hits the reconciliations, then it’s like a mucous, tender thing , it becomes on the heel, as if somehow i once scolded him
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for this very interesting expression, i can say one thing, the most important thing is not to smoke, and nuts are probably a no-no either, i heard nuts, chocolate, seeds, well, to be honest, i’m somehow in front of nuts i ate there during the performance, well... no such a thing, you carry me recal, he sang the most important song for me at our first acquaintance with the divine future people's artist, i personally didn’t have any opportunity, these are the guys from our yard, this style is closer to me, that is, such an intimate conversation with the audience, the first rehearsal, the boss is irritated, he just goes to the microphone, only the first words are spoken , my whole world has turned upside down, the audience loves lyuba’s ensemble, they love, love these songs, they know them, they sing together, i am very grateful to the audience for the fact that these 30 with
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more than a year, they are with us, god willing, everything will be fine with us in the future, i drew a cat for you there, knowing that you love them, who doesn’t love them? lyuba, lyuba on friday on the first. 10 years ago, the dream of millions of crimeans came true. the peninsula was reunited with russia. i have been living in crimea since 1960, when we switched to russia, our poverty ended. our people really came, for 10 years now, i have been living in a state of euphoria. the heart of crimea is open to everyone. people from all regions of russia began to come to the peninsula.
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the podcast is on air 20 years later, this is konstantin mikhailov, i’m alexander anatolyevich, visiting. we have tatyana pulanova, let’s remember that same ninety-first, when this moment was interesting, when there was no fame yet, there was some kind of dream, what if suddenly i then, of course, i dreamed of some beautiful outfit, the suit you’re in when everything is sparkling, now i have almost all the concert dresses, they’re all like the gypsy’s, yes, but i like it, and it seems to me that when you go out on stage, it’s there everything distracts from even this is a kind of camouflage, because no, well, the star should with that’s not even the point, it’s just that i still have stage fright and i’m so worried a little bit
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less than i was 30 years ago, no, i swear , i swear, but corporate parties are different from concerts , you adore corporate parties because firstly , it’s only 30-40 minutes there, well, an hour maximum , everyone dances, everyone is so cheerful, it’s like everyone there is singing along, i really like it, it reminds me of the beginning of our activities when we worked in discos mainly there people i danced in smaller halls. i’m always worried, because when people, everything that you’re going to show me there, come on, what can i show, lord, i don’t really know how to do anything like that, well, i can show you a dress, well, a dress so it turned out, yes, if it happens that the dress is not particularly shiny , in general, too, somehow, i don’t know , i always adore corporate parties with such and such a schedule, i hope it is very tight, what then, what now, when we have time to accumulate energy to be at home, to be a wife, to be a mother, unfortunately, very rarely, and i understand that after ... i have just such an intensive schedule , it’s so tight that i can’t breathe at all, i need at least a week,
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okay, there’s three days so that i just lie at home or i sat at home, i didn’t watch tv, i didn’t have to put on makeup, get ready, or dress up anywhere, i just spend my time the way i want the day, and my favorite pastimes are watching old films - from the thirties, there is a channel and they show everything from silent films to , in my opinion, until about forty-five. by regarding the corporate party, where is it more in moscow or st. petersburg, you live in two cities and it’s like a train is a plane and a train is a train is a plane, it’s extremely rare when i need to be on time , so i’m there today, it’s some kind of shooting and i need to be in st. petersburg in the evening , of course, 3.5 hours, and the train is fast, seated, or this compartment with a jingling spoon, but speaking of which, i like the night ones 23:30 they leave, they arrive at 8:30 , you can sleep and it’s comfortable, it’s with a tv , it’s with this classic at night you’re here...
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ends all over the country and i’m not tired of it yes, yes, of course, i can imagine what it was like to travel so far, well, there was a period when corporate parties just appeared and we realized about the nineties, i really didn’t get out of the tour , i wasn’t at home, i remember some shoes , i had autumn ones, i think or i wore some kind of winter one, i wore it in the fall and spring. because i wasn’t at home, i come for 2 days, i come there and change things in my suitcase and again we go there for three weeks for a month when the opportunity arose just like that, well, how to feed the family no longer with concerts, we generally refused and to be honest i had the anniversary concert was already there 4 years ago in oktyabrsky and i liked it so much, it was so cool and we resumed it again , now there was a performance a few times in the moscow region that will be there somewhere , so little by little we’re coming back again. there were moments when they recognized you and asked you to sing, i’m not talking about rude carelessness,
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although this is also possible, it also happened when people touched you carelessly, it happened, of course, it happened, but i’ll be honest, i somehow forget that i they might recognize me there when who tan, i’m immediately the first, like who, where, where we met, that is, i forget that i’m just a person, well, as you begin to remember where, when, who, someone you know somewhere, just a person recognized me, and you love the public, do you refuse?
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some kind of situation in the country, something is happening in the world, i don’t know, somehow the album was unsuccessful, something like that happened, of course , it’s okay, i somehow always knew that i was generally an optimist in life, i always knew that we would endure nothing and continue it will be fine , we will work now, recording. something new, cool and in general i never gave up. your new album tanya dyshi is named after one of the songs. in what cases do you have to say to yourself: tanya, right? in fact, you know, when the artist comes out on stage , no one knows what ’s going on there; he feels bad; someone there betrayed him; someone, i don’t know, scolded him; he had a fight with someone or something else happened by the way, i had such a story, so sad, my mother passed away on the day of the funeral, i had work and i deliberately didn’t i canceled it because i understood that if i came home and just after
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everything had gone away, i would just come home and just lie down, i might not get up anymore, it’s just that there was such a relationship with my mother in... such a well, just, well, i don’t know level space, probably of some kind, when of course she passed away, it was very difficult for me, this work saved me , as a matter of fact, this is also tashi and i remember on this day it is always very difficult to sing because when, well, there is no tone and ligament somehow these are not the same as you need, yeah and there a couple of songs needed to be changed so that the plus would go because well, well, it doesn’t sound, no one needs it, well, it’s not the same physics, i still can’t listen to the voice, but that’s all. here is one of these moments, you can’t breathe, don’t breathe there , that’s it, or there, let’s say, i understand that i need to say something or sing something, but i want to cry, but i really don’t like this, despite the fact that i have the fame of a crying singer, to cry just like that, hop, cry, i feel ashamed somehow, i can cry, i went backstage and burst into tears, so i start to breathe, so that somehow here is the breath, somehow here is the breath, the breath there you can drink some water, that’s how all this
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tears go away, the ideal man is, if for a woman, then a man who respects a woman. what i mean is that it’s time to listen to the song “betrayal” performed by tanya bulanova on the podcast 20 years later. thank you very much for this frank conversation, it somehow became brighter and warmer. with us was the most popular, most beloved, most loving... singer, also a mother and wife, honored artist of the russian federation, tatyana bulanova on the podcast 20 years later, thank you.
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linir has landed, the city , hello, he told me, i returned earlier, and you didn’t know about it, i was in a hurry to come to you, i rushed in a taxi, you opened the door for me, suddenly you didn’t invite me, and you lowered your eyes and even became pale , behind your shoulder, i see my friend, embarrassedly he said that you
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weren’t expecting me, how could you... we believed in each other so much, i walked into the kitchen, my hands were trembling so finely, you stood at the door, holding her coat in my hands, i turned to you she said quietly to her, you stay here, it’s clear he needs you more, i ran downstairs, you screamed something at me, but i only knew that you had cheated on me, my beloved, the wind bit my face
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she had no ambitions for the idea of a writer, or a writer, so she writes this novel, her only work in her life, she wrote it for 10 years, it was published in 1936, it immediately becomes a bestseller , a film is being made based on it in hollywood, and with stars , and it seems to me that this fame was unexpected... not falling, she, perhaps, had not previously laid claim to such a role as a great american writer, but nevertheless, her book can still be read, it’s interesting, and the film is still interesting to watch, you agree, it already seems hard to me, after all , there is a lot of stuff, you know, outdated, filming pavilions, you know, for me now the most, it seems, we can all be traumatized by the pavilion filming, well, probably, the main thing in the film is the casting, and even there it is quite accurate.
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mitchell says, did she write this heroine from herself, she answered quite sharply that scarlet is a prostitute, but i am not, that is, she is also, let’s say, frivolous in relationships with men, but manipulates them consciously, but she’s just not frivolous, because frivolous is if she just fluttered around and allowed herself to be somehow manipulated, she’s everything, she’s thought out, she wears this mask, that is, for men she puts on the mask of such a fool all the time, except for ret butler , whom she could not defeat, he saw through her. well, he immediately tells her at the first meeting that you are not a lady, so he immediately exposes her, because she pretends to be a lady, but internally
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she does not correspond to the concepts of that time, what a lady is, listen, well, everyone there knew that she is not a lady, from the nanny to some of her girlfriends, and relatives, because in general she had a lively disposition, so to speak, but in general it just seems to me, a list of questions for the reader, that’s what you’re thinking about, she bad, successful things didn’t work out for her , unsuccessful, but overall not particularly successful, it’s as if in the final balance she just has money, but she’s a person who strives for pleasure, she streamed cash, mind you, that is, she had not material aspiration all her life, everything is all her life, which we know, yes, she wanted something like that, it seems to me that her crush on ashley, it partly, well, symbolizes her craving for something spiritual, because ashley loves literature, music, he is not like her, he reads books. he always looks somewhere through her with his dreamy gaze, and she likes it, she is drawn to him, precisely as a person who
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well, let's just say, he gives her some advances, hopes, yes, not strong, but in short, it seems to me that after that she went into a slight decline towards him after all , that is, she received something of some kind, but it wasn’t chalk, not from you, you know this kind of sheslava, yes, but it also seems to me that of course there is this paradox, that everyone is in love with her, she has a lot of fans , she masters impeccable feminine skill, well, let’s just say, she masters this skill of seduction, even if it’s not complicated skill. yes, but in her performance, but nevertheless, and she can’t do anything at all, sat down, you know, this is how to win, achieve, well, that is, i didn’t take this height, i can’t take it, she continues, maybe , this is also part of her , this painful character, you know , by the way, look, about scarlet spiritually, she loves tara, yes, in fact, all her life she devotedly loved her, fought for her, that’s her love, but this as if in the sense that this is
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also spiritual spiritual. she actually has this is a very big spiritual debt of hers, that she herself may not understand why, but she puts all of herself into this heritage, or what? listen, this is the dichotomy of these two women, melony and scarlett, this is how you describe them, is it? some kind of basic conflict between two female characters, you know, it seems to me that mitchell’s book, why did it turn out so suddenly great, and, by the way, a very cool definition, suddenly great, yes, well, listen, in theory, because it seems like this is very similar to the genre - women's novel, well you know exactly the kind of person, a little closer to the boulevard, yes, but she’s like fi gerald, she describes society, yes, behavior in...
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yes, if the world were completely different everywhere, and he was completely weakling, melanie shows great presence of mind, and she is a strong guy, yes, she is a strong guy, she is almost giving birth there somewhere hundreds of kilometers away and survives, does not whine, in general, does not cause inconvenience to anyone, that is, she is stronger than her husband, and i think that ashley i partially chose her, you know, they have scarlet in common, she’s different, but she’s also strong,
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differently. i agree, but she is rather strong because of her nobility, she always makes choices that are morally accurate, she always has a moral choice, well, some kind of bright moral choice, when it’s like a series of evil? no, but she has such moments , for example, when the whole society refused to accept captain butler in atlanta even before the south lost the war, she accepted him and told everyone directly that i will accept captain butler, because yes, she decided say this to the faces of some matrons who accused him there, such secular choice, it doesn’t matter, yes, well, listen, she seems to be well-read and discusses yes. yes , she’s well-read, look, scarlett, she kind of doesn’t give a damn about this society, especially when her ret gradually taught her not to give a damn about this society, no, she’s always been like that, well, listen to her, she was such a fidgety person, and
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she didn’t care if she offended her friends, scolded her mother, well, yes, everything just developed for her, that is, when it’s just some kind of secular conventions, it’s one story, when she needs money, she trades with the yankees, there’s already different when she goes out reta, everything there... is already completely, in a sense, melanie too, she goes against society, not with such a challenge, not so pretentious, and not like that, it’s like scarlet doesn’t give a damn about the truth, she doesn’t care they don’t give a damn, but she still, you see, they’re like them, you think that they’re a mirror of each other, well , of course, it’s not exactly a mirror, but they’re cut from the same cloth, conditionally, they just see themselves differently developing a look, by the way, for some reason they turned out to be very different to me, it seemed to me that this was a type of noble woman , meloni, for real. lady, scarlett is like that pankukha, well, you see, in terms of strength, independence , support for their own opinion, their own moral coordinates, well, everyone has them , even scarlet, it doesn’t matter, they can be different, they’re just somewhat similar, well
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, actually scarit, although she hates treat her like a rival all her life, she still helps her out, that is, there are these moments that she helps her give birth, well, that is... in general, this is such loyalty in a good way , you see, she is faithful to the earth , she's generally loyal to her family, and she's loyal to melanie, and i think that's just because ashley asked, she has this, you know, how would, who else if not me, she went there for this kind of carrot, in general, she fed her family, did not let them, uh, die of hunger, and with the mind of russia. you can’t understand, you can’t measure a general yardstick, you can’t become anything special, you can only do it in russia. two feelings are wonderfully close to us, in them the heart finds food, love for its native ashes, love for fathers
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and slaves. don’t sleep, don’t sleep, artist, don’t indulge in sleep, you are a hostage of time in captivity for eternity. hiss, be angry, my friends, wedge, you and them will not salt me like yours... unfortunately, i’m not going to fight with you over your lies, over your statement, over yourself, i just don’t give a damn. when in vain you resort to words, it will not help you again, and you will not wash away the righteous blood with all your black blood, the poet of russia. civilizations, premiere, film eight. russia, part two. on thursday. on the first, there is a moment where mitchell describes that scarlett, managing this estate , is forced, she suddenly realizes that she is no worse than a man, she says to herself: i’m no worse
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men, i can manage the estate, do the accounting there, distribute responsibilities among the household members there, yes, she still has the society of her south, well, this... high society, yes, inspired that a woman is weak, stupid, she is stupider men, this is frankly what they say, then suddenly she realizes that she, she can, she is no worse, and this, in general, maybe also somehow turns something around in her mind, do you think this is feminist the book is essentially, well , listen, we now live in a time when the word feminism has already... become a little bit of some kind of moth-eaten slogan, but are you avoiding it? no, i’m not avoiding him, but yes, of course, she was natural, especially for that time, i think that it was mitchell who laid this out, yes, but you know,
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there’s nothing for show here, because it’s all realities that life is very conventionally invented, you know, when the names are changed there, yes, look, by the way, about being a lady, but there a lot is pointed out about etiquette. interesting things, a woman shouldn't accept nothing but sweets and flowers as gifts, a woman should not be left alone, she should not mention her pregnancy there, well, that is, in general, enough. funny today today, well, listen about candy and flowers, everything here is of course clear, so in general, it seems to me that the topic is relevant now, yes, well, as if you are a man , what can you accept from a man, it seems to me that what you want to accept if you see some kind of relationship with him relationship and not like that, oh here it means he gave me diamonds, it’s clear that he’s making a move, well now it’s just the opposite, it’s listen, well, now , on the contrary, everyone is discussing just this: who pays for a cup of coffee, this is very, very popular in general, so it seems to me that this is
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just a renaissance of this topic, it is clear that women in this sense had a lot of restrictions , well, there were a lot, yes, but scarlett , she consistently breaks all these rules, and yet we love her, we like her, we even think it’s cool, what directed the lady in general, when even i think the book came out , this was more relevant, of course, closer to the middle of that century, it seems to me that... we are missing, well , girls are missing these rules, well, at least know them, well, what are you missing? well, look, it seems to me that there is a male psychology that has not changed since those times, and there is such a certain approach to men that, conditionally, if you follow these rules, then they really still work, that is, you can make a choice , that i don’t want to follow these rules, yes i won’t, but nevertheless these rules exist and it would be good to know them, well, for example, there scarlet is the first to confess her love, oh well, no...
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that if i understand that something doesn’t work out, goodbye, well, that means this is not my person, it can manifest itself, you know, in some even everyday little things, in looks, i don’t know, at those blown away by the wind, yeah , but because if you have reciprocity, and you were the first to say it, and the person is exactly the same for you, he just didn’t have time, then everything will be fine with you, listen, well, if you want, won’t you? yes, if you specifically want to, you deliberately go into such
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a patriarchal-abusive way of life, where a woman must be quiet, submissive, obey , it is not clear what to get in return for this, because already in modern society you really do not understand that before there was some kind of public unspoken agreement, what do you have for this, now there is no, you can get for this anything, you can get gratitude for it, money there, i don’t know, some kind for... you must definitely seem stupider than you are, that the biggest disaster, everything goes down
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the drain in this seduction, in this hunt, if suddenly a man realizes that you are smart, here it is for me it seems that this is very offensive, but this is, well, most likely true, well, most likely true in the sense that if it suddenly seemed to me that i was communicating with a man, and so what, that in front of him i need to pretend that i... well, stupider yes, whatever that means, i would immediately understand that this man is stupid and i ’m not on the same path with him, because i’ll just die of boredom with him, i know when in 15 minutes, before that he was wild no, well this is this if i experienced intense romantic feelings for someone, something didn’t work out for me, i was disappointed in the seagull, he he was disappointed in me, we just didn’t get along, but this is my minimal crush, mine yes, but here it’s just, well , it’s like it’s still at the level. take a closer look
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, take a closer look, well, that’s it, i understand that he is stupid, i don’t want to be a stupid person, only if he is uncontrollably cheerful, cool and talented, but then he most likely won’t behave like that either, because he will at least want to be stronger , instinctively, a man wants a woman to be yes no, there is no such thing at all, it’s all a design, a design that served certain necessity, that is, you think it is described. well, look, well, here’s how it is , now we’re talking, we’re coming back brought by the wind, there’s a structure such that a family is a working man. working in such a way as to provide not only for himself and somehow his wife, but also for his family, that is , for children born, no matter how many there are, some servants, yes, at the very least, but one way or another he needs all this for take it out for yourself, the wife, accordingly, does not work, she is completely immersed in the household, well
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, this is also work, listen, manage household, does not work at the job that brings the family money, in this sense does not work, which means that people live only this way, yes, this is a social contract, let’s be honest, he only does housework, for some it’s a thrill, but for some... then a significant number of people are bored, yeah , in order to somehow justify all this, various add-ons begin, yes, from the very beginning a woman is trying not to put a lot of education into her, there is the same english aristocracy, how brilliant and flow spoke, wrote, showed and a bunch of others. authors, both fiction and documentary, sometimes there were on the general principle of aristocracy, literally there until the 20th century it could have been simply monstrously uneducated, well , in fact, that’s a long way to go and scarlett didn’t like to read books, she constantly asks, but women’s education is not in
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general in families, we still say now that carried by the winds describe rich people, but not in general not the entire society of people. and well, because it gives birth to the kind of vain thoughts that generally try to drag a woman away, not about how to embroider or knocking down squirrels, yes, but about the fact that you have some kind of purpose there, well, yes, so that she can do it fully, and not get bored, and because of this it is natural that a woman should be stupider, listen, man, because it’s true, if the husband is the boss , then she should obey him, now there is no such thing as a husband being the boss,
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anyone is designed in such a way that he needs fulfillment, and that means then all these sayings and things are invented about how a woman should behave how she should be dumber, smarter, what she should know, how she should breathe, corset this way and that, there must be something there , you know, it’s all just such a system, it ’s kind of outdated, i understand that often these myths and legends are very inherited, there mothers teach for good reasons or for bad reasons daughters, and... well, they are dissolving anyway, well, scarlett, she did her job as a destroyer of these aks, that is, she, uh, let's say, trodden the road to women's rights, as you think , well, to rights, probably not, to the fact that she achieved everything she wanted, yes, she became
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a businesswoman, this is sensational, well, yes, of course, she is, but what can you say about scarlet’s sex life, there’s enough... wretched, we all know this, well, i mean, it ’s written about it right there, well, it’s written about it right there, that she got married twice, gave birth several children, that is, in the film they removed the script of these children, they left only the last bonnie, who died, in the book she has a child from each marriage, in general it turns out that she gets married, yes , she had a son, well in general, she got married several times. for different men, and having given birth, she her sexuality was completely undiscovered, in general, maybe this is one of the reasons why she was in love with this ashley, that is, she had this romantic childhood crush, similar to waiting for a prince, yes, and this sexuality was completely undisclosed , which red was trying to awaken somehow, and in general,
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